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DECISIONS DECISIONS, any suggestions, yeah yeah I know that everybody loves there tom tom 5, but the brand new Copilot 6 is looking real good any votes
Personally I have only used TomTom and found it great, but Copilot 6 might tempt me away if I can get it at a decent price when I upgrade in October. Has anyone here used Copilot 6? It looks absolutely fantastic!
I use copilot live 6.
Some negative stuff I've noticed:
Startup is kinda slow, especially if you're loading poi's.
Poi's Can only go in custom poi's unless it's a speed camera - in which case you have to either do on your desktop or load the files into the "save" folder - at which point you then need to reload your poi's!
You can't change the voices except for the defaults, however those voices are only about 30 different OGG files - I guess you can make your own!
Technical support don't seem too interested in solving your problems, and I had to chase my calls twice before I got a response.
Good stuff:
maps are pretty responsive and clear.
live service makes this software perfect for courier firms, pizza delivery etc. but you do have to be on gprs constantly
live service also provides a four choice message option from internet to device, meaning your missus can ask for a pint of milk on the way home without you having to exit, answer and re-enter...
I'm happy with Jane (the british/english voice) and would recommend it
4/5
Question for you the CoPilot 6 user. Is the traffic updates over gprs a free service (apart from the gprs costs) and also does it route the direction voice commands over a bluetooth headset?
Anyone using route 66 out there? I know this provides a free traffic service, but what about the commands over bluetooth headset?
Copilot 6
I use Copilot, the programme is good. draw backs are its difficult to switch between map regions, i.e. US and UK. ALK the distrubitors suggest seperate SD cards but that impacts on any programmes installed on the card. their other solution is to use a large capacity card eg 4 Gig and rename the working folder each time you need to swap.
the other drwaback is that the refuse to release map upgrades as Navteq the map generators release them. this means i have maps that are a year old whereas navteq have released 4 verions this year. you can only get an update with copilot in the new year if you decide to purchase the new version.
the traffic updates are free for 1 year after that you have to buy another years subscription.
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went to the Garmins stall at IT Fair and asked for singapore maps price.
it was $100 USD ... man.
this is really stupid...whats the point of having all the technology n all if the maps themselves are so expensive.
and why are they encouraging piracy by making such expensive maps.
Is your question really relevant to this forum? Moreover, do you think anyone here can answer it?
Though I do agree that the price is stupid.
Expensive?? Do you know how much $ just the map data company (not including the software company that build software on top of that) spend to expand and maintain the map information (and keep them current)?? At first, it requires a driver to drive to every corner to collect all the data and don't you think the gasoline is free?
I know since I have friends working in that industry.
If you're looking for Singapore maps, go to www.malsingmaps.com Much like xda-developers, it's a user driven forum dedicated to making the most accurate and most detailed map for malaysia and singapore. And it's free.
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Expensive?? Do you know how much $ just the map data company (not including the software company that build software on top of that) spend to expand and maintain the map information (and keep them current)?? At first, it requires a driver to drive to every corner to collect all the data and don't you think the gasoline is free?
I know since I have friends working in that industry.
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Won't satellite images be a better alternative???
Sats don't know (yet!) the one way street, for example! And there is a lot, lot more data in the maps.
openstreetmap.org should eventually solve the price issue when the data is more complete and existing or new nav software vendors start using it.
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openstreetmap.org should eventually solve the price issue when the data is more complete and existing or new nav software vendors start using it.
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indeed, and you can always make it better ! I have.. 3 days work and everyroad bridleway & path near me is perfect! amazing what you can do with GPScyclecomputer (on the diamond forum) and an x1..
GPSVP is a pretty neat piece of (now opensource) software that means you can use googlemaps(road&sattellite) live maps (road & sat) and openstreetmaps (and the many freeware garmin compatible maps around, there's a search on the homepage.
What I do is use the desktop version to download the various "zoom layers" of maps (mostly google or live sat maps) and then copy the folder across to the x1 sdcard.
works a treat and got me out a pickle whilst cycling through the netherlands on a path that wasn't supposed to exist..
http://code.google.com/p/gpsvp/
ooh new version, not tried that yet.
To the OP you have to remember the massive amount of work that goes into generating all the data for route navigation (and updating it).. that costs quite a lot of money
Hi guys, since I use the GPS with the motorbike, I'm looking for a software that has a good PC planning tool in order to easily plan routes and waypoints.
The best I've found to date is Garmin with its MapSource... BUT ...I came across the Google GPS, which, obviously, with Google Earth, Maps, etc., would be even better than MapSource.
So, here the question: anybody with experience?
- Bugs?
- Lags?
Thanks a lot in advance.
I don't know if using Google GPS to plan a route would make any difference to this, but Google downloads chunks of maps, as and when it needs them. If this wasn't done before the journey, you may end up following a dot on a screen full of "please wait" images.
I'd make sure about this before even trying it, to be honest.
I do agree with you, but, since my biggest need is the PLANNING, I would need to download the maps first anyway, as required by the Garmin.
I've just checked the CoPilot site, and it mentions pre-trip planning on the feature page...
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/features.asp
Looks like I'm gonna recommend you try CoPilot, which comes as a 14 day trial on the HD2.
Here's my question. I want to buy a map program/navigation for my hd2 but I DON'T want something that limits me when I switch to another phone.
I had tomtom and what a headcahe to switch to a new phone, I had to call.... I want to buy and OWN period. Mapopolis was really good at this, I can install on any phone I wanted. I had 1 for at a time so never had it on 1 phones. I hate the way tomtom and others limit after I have PAID for the program.
Is there anything out there that when I buy it's actually mine?
I have CoPilot. You can move it between devices (though not an iPhone). It has to be registered/unregistered to move it as it is only licensed for one device at a time. The process looks simple but I haven't tried it. CoPilot support has generated negative comment. There are annual subscriptions for additional features. You don't need them but I pay for traffic data because I find it useful. Most navigation software works like this today.
Memory Map might be closer to what you want. Google Maps is free but you need a data connection. Windows Mobile support is behind Android but is improving.
Unfortunately, most good navigation software involves some ongoing costs.
Thanks. I will try memory map.
I'm looking for a Map program that runs from my SD Card so that I don't have to wait for the maps to load.
Is this possible for googles maps?
What programs can do this? will they have location/GPS.. and/or touch zoom for the screen?
Let me know.. I'm looking for something badly (and I'm not familiar where to look/find programs like these). If GoogleMaps can.. then I'd be satisfied with that.. but if you've got something better... get it to me..
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I'm looking for a Map program that runs from my SD Card so that I don't have to wait for the maps to load.
Is this possible for googles maps?
What programs can do this? will they have location/GPS.. and/or touch zoom for the screen?
Let me know.. I'm looking for something badly (and I'm not familiar where to look/find programs like these). If GoogleMaps can.. then I'd be satisfied with that.. but if you've got something better... get it to me..
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CoPilot runs fromt he SD card, but that's a $30 navigation program, not just mapping.
Is there any GPS programs that we can get for free?
I do lots of traveling sometimes in areas that have very limited or no cell service so programs like MS Bing and Google Maps don't work here. I eventually settled on Navigon which stores a completes set of US maps on the SD card and will work regardless of cellular coverage. It works really well and turns the HD2 into what you would expect from a dedicated gps unit. Only downside is the cost, it's $90 but then again you get what you pay for.
somebody's gotta have a hacked copy of one of these programs, or have developed one themselves.. all I was is what THOMPSD is talking about.. a map app (or program) that will run when I DON'T GET ANY SERVICE..
I travel a lot also, so I need something, but I'm not going to pay $90.. I'd just buy a GPS for that..
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HTC-187 said:
somebody's gotta have a hacked copy of one of these programs, or have developed one themselves.. all I was is what THOMPSD is talking about.. a map app (or program) that will run when I DON'T GET ANY SERVICE..
I travel a lot also, so I need something, but I'm not going to pay $90.. I'd just buy a GPS for that..
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This is not a warez board. Copilot is $30. Since google is apparently to much for you to handle two other options are Navicomputer and Opensteetmaps both available on XDA when you bother to do a search.
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This is not a warez board. Copilot is $30. Since google is apparently to much for you to handle two other options are Navicomputer and Opensteetmaps both available on XDA when you bother to do a search.
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you don't have to be condescending. I obviously don't have as much experience or "know how" as a lot of you guys, hence the reason for my questions.
I don't see why I would need to buy a program to get maps installed on my SD Card so that I can view them instantly (without loading them from a network)... also, I didn't know what "warez" was (but I just googled it to make you happy).
I guess what I really would like, would be to have googles maps PRE-LOADED on my SD. I just want to be able to find my location if I'm out of cell service (or whatever provides the data used to load google maps).
Thank you guys so far for your recommendations. any other info, etc will be greatly appreciated.
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you don't have to be condescending. I obviously don't have as much experience or "know how" as a lot of you guys, hence the reason for my questions.
I don't see why I would need to buy a program to get maps installed on my SD Card so that I can view them instantly (without loading them from a network)... also, I didn't know what "warez" was (but I just googled it to make you happy).
I guess what I really would like, would be to have googles maps PRE-LOADED on my SD. I just want to be able to find my location if I'm out of cell service (or whatever provides the data used to load google maps).
Thank you guys so far for your recommendations. any other info, etc will be greatly appreciated.
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Both of the apps famewolf mentioned above will come very close to that (and are free), they just use a different map source. The second one he mentioned is actually called OpenMobileMaps, but it does use the OpenStreetMap.org's database. Here's the link for that one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=597957
Now, I googled "caching google maps" (on the full 'net, not just xda), and the 3rd link that came up was this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351001
I have no idea if it'll work on the HD2, but I think it's the closest possiblity available to exactly what you're looking for.
Also note that if you want stuff for free, you're going to have to do a little work. You will not find the easy installed, easy setup, works perfectly and exactly as you'd like it too apps that you can "sometimes" find in payware apps. With free apps, the more complex the app, the more fiddling and setup you'll have to do on your own.
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you don't have to be condescending. I obviously don't have as much experience or "know how" as a lot of you guys, hence the reason for my questions.
I don't see why I would need to buy a program to get maps installed on my SD Card so that I can view them instantly (without loading them from a network)... also, I didn't know what "warez" was (but I just googled it to make you happy).
I guess what I really would like, would be to have googles maps PRE-LOADED on my SD. I just want to be able to find my location if I'm out of cell service (or whatever provides the data used to load google maps).
Thank you guys so far for your recommendations. any other info, etc will be greatly appreciated.
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My tone was sharp because you started out by asking for "hacked versions of these programs" and not for freeware/shareware. It's also generally considered polite to do a search via XDA first before requesting aid...you get even more help if you say "I did a search and found blah blah and blah but they are not giving me exactly what I'm looking for...anyone have more suggestions".
Another alternative that might work for you, but only if other folks are submitting map updates in your area is http://www.waze.com/
"Waze is a social mobile application providing free turn-by-turn navigation based on the live conditions of the road.
100% powered by users, the more you drive, the better it gets. "
Garmin Mobile Xt runs nicely from the 16gb card that came with my HD2. Preloaded the North American Map onto it and even some other bluecharts, hiking maps and a couple of EU cities.
Mobile XT uses the AGPS chip in the HD2 and picks up satellites fast. It stays connected farly well. Only thing it won't do is speak street names.
HTC-187 said:
I'm looking for a Map program that runs from my SD Card so that I don't have to wait for the maps to load.
Is this possible for googles maps?
What programs can do this? will they have location/GPS.. and/or touch zoom for the screen?
Let me know.. I'm looking for something badly (and I'm not familiar where to look/find programs like these). If GoogleMaps can.. then I'd be satisfied with that.. but if you've got something better... get it to me..
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GPS w/turn-by-turn & can use offlie maps for hiking?
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Garmin Mobile Xt runs nicely from the 16gb card that came with my HD2. Preloaded the North American Map onto it and even some other bluecharts, hiking maps and a couple of EU cities.
Mobile XT uses the AGPS chip in the HD2 and picks up satellites fast. It stays connected farly well. Only thing it won't do is speak street names.
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I'm not new to XDA or PPC, but new to GPS software, jargon, and usage. So forgive me noob question, but I've been reading for days and still a little confused. Features and limitations and jargon on all these sites gets overwhelming. Basically, I'm looking for a GPS software that runs from SD as well, but with 3 more important features/questions:
1. turn-by-turn voice navigation for car use
2. load offline topography maps for hiking, maybe even geocaching/tracking w/altitude, speed, distance, etc.
3. search engine or preloaded POI searching
I understand iGo, TomTom, CoPilot do the car nav and I understand Navicomputer, OpenMobileMaps, and Litetrack do the offline maps and geocaching, but is their an app that does both. I think from the above post z3Bum stated Garmin XT does this so i'm wondering if I missed the big picture and all the 3rd party GPS apps have ability to view and load offline apps and maybe even have geocaching and tracking with all the distance, altitude, etc. goodies. And if so, do the 3rd party apps allow you to load only their maps (if they have them) or can you use maps from other sources?
Do I have to use 3 different apps to achive this (Google Maps = search, TomTom = voice turn-by-turn, NaviComputer = offline geocaching/tracking) or can I do all this with one app? I've been reading and learning for hours and a couple of days now, so I might just be burnt out and everything jumbled, so I apologize if this is an dumb question, but any help would be appreciated. Thanks and hopefully I have not taken post to far off topic.
Edit: got Garmin Mobile XT and it does everything I need it to do. Had to use a little workaround found on XDA to allow me to view multiple maps with Mobile Xt (city nav maps + topo maps) and now I'm happy as can be.
HTC-187 said:
I'm looking for a Map program that runs from my SD Card so that I don't have to wait for the maps to load.
Is this possible for googles maps?
What programs can do this? will they have location/GPS.. and/or touch zoom for the screen?
Let me know.. I'm looking for something badly (and I'm not familiar where to look/find programs like these). If GoogleMaps can.. then I'd be satisfied with that.. but if you've got something better... get it to me..
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iGo 8.3
It's nice navigation program. You have to pay for it. But google it, you will find it somewhere in a forum cheap