New CoPilot 6 or TomTom 5 - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

DECISIONS DECISIONS, any suggestions, yeah yeah I know that everybody loves there tom tom 5, but the brand new Copilot 6 is looking real good any votes

Personally I have only used TomTom and found it great, but Copilot 6 might tempt me away if I can get it at a decent price when I upgrade in October. Has anyone here used Copilot 6? It looks absolutely fantastic!

I use copilot live 6.
Some negative stuff I've noticed:
Startup is kinda slow, especially if you're loading poi's.
Poi's Can only go in custom poi's unless it's a speed camera - in which case you have to either do on your desktop or load the files into the "save" folder - at which point you then need to reload your poi's!
You can't change the voices except for the defaults, however those voices are only about 30 different OGG files - I guess you can make your own!
Technical support don't seem too interested in solving your problems, and I had to chase my calls twice before I got a response.
Good stuff:
maps are pretty responsive and clear.
live service makes this software perfect for courier firms, pizza delivery etc. but you do have to be on gprs constantly
live service also provides a four choice message option from internet to device, meaning your missus can ask for a pint of milk on the way home without you having to exit, answer and re-enter...
I'm happy with Jane (the british/english voice) and would recommend it
4/5

Question for you the CoPilot 6 user. Is the traffic updates over gprs a free service (apart from the gprs costs) and also does it route the direction voice commands over a bluetooth headset?
Anyone using route 66 out there? I know this provides a free traffic service, but what about the commands over bluetooth headset?

Copilot 6
I use Copilot, the programme is good. draw backs are its difficult to switch between map regions, i.e. US and UK. ALK the distrubitors suggest seperate SD cards but that impacts on any programmes installed on the card. their other solution is to use a large capacity card eg 4 Gig and rename the working folder each time you need to swap.
the other drwaback is that the refuse to release map upgrades as Navteq the map generators release them. this means i have maps that are a year old whereas navteq have released 4 verions this year. you can only get an update with copilot in the new year if you decide to purchase the new version.
the traffic updates are free for 1 year after that you have to buy another years subscription.
BR
Leigh

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TOMTOM Navigator for USA

Hi Folks,
I am currently using TTN3 with UK and MRE. It is using a TomTom Bluetooth GPS and all works great with no probs at all. I am going to the USA on business at the end of the month. Does anyone know a way I can use it with tomtom maps of the USA without having to buy TOMTOM Navigator USA, but instead add maps to the TTN3. I think it would be wrong if I had to purchase the whole application again just because I fly over the big pond to the states.
Would you like a copy of DeLorme street atlas, I have the handheld version and the pc/laptop version.
DeLorme, makers of Street Atlas USA announced XMap Handheld - Street Atlas USA - Edition, a complete mapping program for the entire U.S. that lets users bring detailed, up-to-date street-level maps and directions on either Pocket PC or Palm OS handhelds.
With most handheld mapping software, users need to plan routes on their desktop PC before they set out on their trip. XMap Handheld Street Atlas USA Edition's unique feature of creating and managing address-to-address routing directly on the PDA is easy, providing the added security of always having exactly the maps needed and allowing for last-minute changes on the road. The enclosed desktop CD, with maps of the entire U.S., lets the user decide what kind of maps and how much coverage area they want to bring on the handheld. The software shows the amount of memory for each map prior to downloading. Users simply load as many maps as they want directly on the handheld or removable storage cards, and then quickly find directions and phone numbers to local restaurants, hotels, and much more.
XMap Handheld Street Atlas USA Edition provides detailed vector-based maps so users can search for their address book contacts, place names, streets, cities, or choose from categories including 4 million places of interest including hotels, ATMs, restaurants, gas stations, attractions, and more, most with phone numbers. Enter start and finish points on the map and the software automatically calculates the quickest or shortest route and displays a detailed map or written directions.
that would be great if you could. please send me the details and i will get in touch.
Just send pm.
Hi there. I have sent you a PM (i think) are we any further along in solving this one..
I need your details for posting.

I Have a GPS Reciever, Need software

Hi,
I have a GPS reciever (bluetooth) an i have been looking everywhere for GPS software that wont cost me anything or i wont need to remortgage my house anyway.
Prefer the nothing part though!!! so anyone have ideas of where to find any?
Dave
Hi Dave,
Without meaning to be flippant, that really depends on what you want to do?
Presumably if you are loooking for free or cheap software, the likes of TomTom and iGo are out of the question? These are two of the better known route planning packages - I.e. get me from A to B - but cost. I'm not aware of any free or cheap alternatives.
If you want to know where you are - e.g. just show your position on a map, Windows Live Search beta or Navizon both do this for free (you'll need an inclusive data plan though as both download maps).
There are also moving map programs (e.g. Fugawi or Oziexplorer), although most require some form of raster map (£££) and are not free themselves.
If you find a good, free (or cheap) moving map package, please let me know!
Try using free tracking and tracing and blogging
try out http://geocool.reperion.com free tracking and tracing in Google Earth and Microsoft Virtual Earth, reverse geocoding, buddytracking and much much more
Free GPS tracking software called : PocketReperion
http://www.reperion.com/files
http://geocool.reperion.com
lucid said:
try out http://geocool.reperion.com free tracking and tracing in Google Earth and Microsoft Virtual Earth, reverse geocoding, buddytracking and much much more
Free GPS tracking software called : PocketReperion
http://www.reperion.com/files
http://geocool.reperion.com
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Doesn't exists a free lunch... They wan't something very valuable, your personal data and they want to sell some part of your time to companies. How?
Is easy. Do you know in economical terms the meaning of RESOURCE? Is something that other people want, they would like to pay to have. The water IS a resource and the value and the price are related to the amount available and the request for this resource. But we have a LOT of water here, so the price is low.
SALT was a resource, then they have discovered new technologies to preserve meat and to obtain salt, but we still have SALARY (cames from SALT, SALE in italian) and SALARIA road in Italy...
The diamonds are something more requested and easy to understand, but try to think to something different: health or... your time! Having part of your time means to sell something to you and grabbing some of your money. All the money you earn is something to conquer.
So as an example you have TV movie for "free" (it seems they are free, you will pay later, in the supermarket )
You have it for free but they shared your full name, Lucid (AKA Mike H......... ?)
I prefer to give 100 Euros to Route 66, save connection time and battery and keep my personal data. Remember latins? Do you now what trojan horse is? (the FIRST one!) Troians found a wonderful giant horse and they want to bring inside the city (Troy) Only one said: TIMEO DANAOS ET DONA FERENTES , I am afraid of greeks, even when they bring gifts! I am afraid of companies EXPECIALLY when they brings gifts! we all knows the Troy story...
Windows Live Search
Try http://wls.live.com
Download the Pocket PC version
You have to have a data account to download the maps in real time. It does not point you in the direction you are headed. In other words the screen is always pointing north. However, it is fun to see the GPS in action. You must create a Com Port to the BT receiver and configure the options in the program to use the BT receiver. Not a full featured driving GPS solution but a good mapping solution.
So if one has a bluetooth GPS receiver and wants to pay for navigation software ...which one would be the best for accuracy and simplicity....regardless of cost?
that's a bit like saying what is the best car - it's a bit of a subjective issue. there are other threads that cover this
dwcliff703 said:
So if one has a bluetooth GPS receiver and wants to pay for navigation software ...which one would be the best for accuracy and simplicity....regardless of cost?
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I tested Pocket street, Tom Tom 6 and Route 66. Then I had a Garmin eMap,now a Quest an tested an eTreck and a Nuvi.
TT6, R66,Nuvi are for city nav (are useless off road), simulated 3d nav. Nuvi has a great screen, TT6 and R66 are more or less the same, chose the one most updated from users for your area (I mean Point of Interest, POI, speed traps,...)
Quest iis great also on the sea and offroad, a great trackback function, really water proof, 20 ours of continuous functioning. Pocket street doesn't have routing capability, you just have gps info and the point on the map.
Quest (450 euro)if you have money, MS pocket street if you havent (25 euro) 200 (GPS+Sw+1gb SD) for TT6 and R66. If yuo like sailing, flying or trekking... Garnin!
I've used many GPS's thur the last few years and hove found that the Garmin products are all at the top of the list.
I just loaded Garmin Que on my 8525 and works great. I'm very use to the interface as it is very close to all the stand alone Garmin GPS I've used.
Garmin Que only works with a Garmin GPS receviver.
I have just got a copy of the TOMTOM V5.21 and unfortunatly the data disc with the maps on it was damaged on the way to my house. friend gave it to me. Now were cani go to get maps for it. i dont wanna spend money to get them, can this be done????
VirtualEarth Mobile freeware. Check p2p for the other stuff
I suggest you read the following thread carefully. First and last post is fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287849
TomTom are checking this forum for illegal distribution of their software.
The fact that an aberrant alpha particle managed to penetrate the atmosphere and cause your map disk irrepairable damage is unfortunate.
Consider speaking to TomTom for a replacement.
Otherwise, search the board for TomTom and see what I've had to say about getting hold of non-retail copies of it.
V
Who has to read?
hedrixus my comment is directed at DNY80:
I have just got a copy of the TOMTOM V5.21 and unfortunatly the data disc with the maps on it was damaged on the way to my house. friend gave it to me. Now were cani go to get maps for it. i dont wanna spend money to get them, can this be done????
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Do be responsible guys. The board is getting increasing threats of legal action.
V
I tried the Delorme product and TomTom 6 (I DID purchase them). I think Tom Tom 6 is just about as good as the one built into my car.
Come on folks, MOST of the software that runs on a pocketPC is not that expensive! Don't cause this place to shut down because you are too tight to lay out a few dollars.
If you can afford a PocketPC phone, you can probably afford to purchase the software that you need/want.

Wow...Maps are expensive

went to the Garmins stall at IT Fair and asked for singapore maps price.
it was $100 USD ... man.
this is really stupid...whats the point of having all the technology n all if the maps themselves are so expensive.
and why are they encouraging piracy by making such expensive maps.
Is your question really relevant to this forum? Moreover, do you think anyone here can answer it?
Though I do agree that the price is stupid.
Expensive?? Do you know how much $ just the map data company (not including the software company that build software on top of that) spend to expand and maintain the map information (and keep them current)?? At first, it requires a driver to drive to every corner to collect all the data and don't you think the gasoline is free?
I know since I have friends working in that industry.
If you're looking for Singapore maps, go to www.malsingmaps.com Much like xda-developers, it's a user driven forum dedicated to making the most accurate and most detailed map for malaysia and singapore. And it's free.
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Expensive?? Do you know how much $ just the map data company (not including the software company that build software on top of that) spend to expand and maintain the map information (and keep them current)?? At first, it requires a driver to drive to every corner to collect all the data and don't you think the gasoline is free?
I know since I have friends working in that industry.
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Won't satellite images be a better alternative???
Sats don't know (yet!) the one way street, for example! And there is a lot, lot more data in the maps.
openstreetmap.org should eventually solve the price issue when the data is more complete and existing or new nav software vendors start using it.
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openstreetmap.org should eventually solve the price issue when the data is more complete and existing or new nav software vendors start using it.
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indeed, and you can always make it better ! I have.. 3 days work and everyroad bridleway & path near me is perfect! amazing what you can do with GPScyclecomputer (on the diamond forum) and an x1..
GPSVP is a pretty neat piece of (now opensource) software that means you can use googlemaps(road&sattellite) live maps (road & sat) and openstreetmaps (and the many freeware garmin compatible maps around, there's a search on the homepage.
What I do is use the desktop version to download the various "zoom layers" of maps (mostly google or live sat maps) and then copy the folder across to the x1 sdcard.
works a treat and got me out a pickle whilst cycling through the netherlands on a path that wasn't supposed to exist..
http://code.google.com/p/gpsvp/
ooh new version, not tried that yet.
To the OP you have to remember the massive amount of work that goes into generating all the data for route navigation (and updating it).. that costs quite a lot of money

Navigation For HD2

Here's my question. I want to buy a map program/navigation for my hd2 but I DON'T want something that limits me when I switch to another phone.
I had tomtom and what a headcahe to switch to a new phone, I had to call.... I want to buy and OWN period. Mapopolis was really good at this, I can install on any phone I wanted. I had 1 for at a time so never had it on 1 phones. I hate the way tomtom and others limit after I have PAID for the program.
Is there anything out there that when I buy it's actually mine?
I have CoPilot. You can move it between devices (though not an iPhone). It has to be registered/unregistered to move it as it is only licensed for one device at a time. The process looks simple but I haven't tried it. CoPilot support has generated negative comment. There are annual subscriptions for additional features. You don't need them but I pay for traffic data because I find it useful. Most navigation software works like this today.
Memory Map might be closer to what you want. Google Maps is free but you need a data connection. Windows Mobile support is behind Android but is improving.
Unfortunately, most good navigation software involves some ongoing costs.
Thanks. I will try memory map.

Offline navigation to replace htc locations

Ok guys I've made the decision to run Cyanogenmod on my phone but what I've come to like on the stock desire is the htc locations offline navigation. The routing is actually pretty good, expected since tomtom were involved and now that the free 30 day trial has come to an end I need to make a decision.
Do I stick with Sense and pay for Locations service to continue, or do I stick with Cyanogenmod and pay for a different navigation software?
Can anyone please recommend me a good offline navi preferably something of similar calibre to Htc Locations. By the way I'm in New Zealand so please don't recommend something which doesn't work here.

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