If I just do a temp root so I can delete the apps I dont won't will they stay off?
trees247 said:
If I just do a temp root so I can delete the apps I dont won't will they stay off?
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The answer is no
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trees247 said:
If I just do a temp root so I can delete the apps I dont won't will they stay off?
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They actually should stay removed... I don't know for sure about the uninstall... but if you freeze them in titanium they will stay gone (still on the system, but won't show up as installed and won't be in your app drawer) the technical way to do it if you're a bit savvy with adb is to run
Code:
pm list packages
which will give you a list of the actual package names then do
Code:
pm disable packagename
No, reason? Temproot writes to the cache. When the phone is rebooted or needs space for memory, cache folder gets cleared (poof cache files gone) so when you do something to change the system ie. delete certain apps, it deletes it....temporarily because its only saved to cache. If you want to delete permanently, permaroot it. Permaroot writes to the system, not cache. Once its gone, syonara. Do a backup with titanium root for whatever app you delete. (you never know if you need to return it with stock rom)
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I am having a problem with the security apps on the market like "MobileDefense", "SIM Checker" and so on. They are all great apps but can be easily uninstalled through the market with a little looking around. So what I need is to know how to install the .apk in /system. So basicly I figure that I need to move the .apk to "/system/app" so it is running in the system and cannot be uninstalled via market. So what I need would be the terminal commands to do this if anyone knows. Further more I was wondering if it would also be possible to go in and rename the .apk in "/system" to something like "systemapp.apk" to confuse the person trying to uninstall the app if they happen to stumble upon the manage applications section. Any help would be appreciated!
You can uninstall system apps too.
Yes but not as easy as going into the market and uninstalling. Is there any way to do what I am talking about in the first post? Btw I love your Rom.
Just go to Settings/applications there are the systemapps too...
maxisma said:
Just go to Settings/applications there are the systemapps too...
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Systemapps was just an example It could also be named something else How would I go about moving "MobileDefense" to /system/app using terminal commands?
maxisma said:
Just go to Settings/applications there are the systemapps too...
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Actually the Settings application manager cannot uninstall applications in /system. /system is supposed to be read-only on stock Android builds.
Installing something into /system/app is easy. Just install the app normally from the Market, then open your adb or Terminal emulator, remount system, and cp the file from /data/app into /system/app. After, rm the original copy. The downside is you won't be able to update the app from the market.
jashsu said:
Actually the Settings application manager cannot uninstall applications in /system. /system is supposed to be read-only on stock Android builds.
Installing something into /system/app is easy. Just install the app normally from the Market, then open your adb or Terminal emulator, remount system, and cp the file from /data/app into /system/app. After, rm the original copy. The downside is you won't be able to update the app from the market.
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IIRC, this won't work anyways since they application will be reinstalled but your settings will not? Am I wrong? A wipe will still kill the application's usefulness even if it were built into the ROM.
Is there a way to setup a program default (your settings) so that short of installing an entirely new ROM, you keep your settings???
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IIRC, this won't work anyways since they application will be reinstalled but your settings will not? Am I wrong? A wipe will still kill the application's usefulness even if it were built into the ROM.
Is there a way to setup a program default (your settings) so that short of installing an entirely new ROM, you keep your settings???
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This is a good point; I hadn't thought about the matter of the settings. I have not installed any tracking/retrieval software before so I don't know how they specifically work, but it is theoretically possible for them to work without configuring any settings. It depends on whether the software needs to log into a remote server, but from what I gather some simply act on a sms message. If the action to take is already set by default then there should be no problems. However like I said I have no experience with any actual apps of this sort.
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This is a good point; I hadn't thought about the matter of the settings. I have not installed any tracking/retrieval software before so I don't know how they specifically work, but it is theoretically possible for them to work without configuring any settings. It depends on whether the software needs to log into a remote server, but from what I gather some simply act on a sms message. If the action to take is already set by default then there should be no problems. However like I said I have no experience with any actual apps of this sort.
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Even with a text message, it would need to be "set" for a default number. Mobile Defense however does use a central server to log into.
Hmm... Is there a way to pull the IMEI from the phone and use THAT as a login??? Then if it were to be incorporated with the phone's ROM, it would be pretty difficult to remove it and not have it send data to the proper people.
Just randomly throwing out ideas here, so pardon my ignorance
Im using the Root Explorer v2.10.2(which is the latest) to delete some unwanted system apks in system/apk folder, and im pretty sure i have already deleted those apks, but when i go into Settings->applications->manage applications, i still can find those deleted apks. Altho they are like 0 bite in memory, but still looks very annoying to me. Is there any way to get rid of those things in 'manage applications'? I have tried to search keywords in RootExplorer, and deleted the apk folders under data/data, and reboot my phone, and they are still there..
Also, if i click on any of those apks, "settings" will FC.
tzf123 said:
Im using the Root Explorer v2.10.2(which is the latest) to delete some unwanted system apks in system/apk folder, and im pretty sure i have already deleted those apks, but when i go into Settings->applications->manage applications, i still can find those deleted apks. Altho they are like 0 bite in memory, but still looks very annoying to me. Is there any way to get rid of those things in 'manage applications'? I have tried to search keywords in RootExplorer, and deleted the apk folders under data/data, and reboot my phone, and they are still there..
Also, if i click on any of those apks, "settings" will FC.
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Did you try running fix_permissions?
Binary100100 said:
Did you try running fix_permissions?
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hmm.. what is fix_permissions?
i searched on google and it says:
From a running ROM
To execute the fix_permissions script on your phone:
Open the "Terminal" app from the application drawer.
Type
su
fix_permissions
when i type fix_permissions in terminal, it indicates fix_permissions not found, i also tried fix_permissions.sh, still not found
tzf123 said:
hmm.. what is fix_permissions?
i searched on google and it says:
From a running ROM
To execute the fix_permissions script on your phone:
Open the "Terminal" app from the application drawer.
Type
su
fix_permissions
when i type fix_permissions in terminal, it indicates fix_permissions not found, i also tried fix_permissions.sh, still not found
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what rom and recovery are you using?
Binary100100 said:
what rom and recovery are you using?
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SMOKI 0.6.3, RA-hero-v1.6.2
it seems like the fix_permissions command can be used in CM ROMS..
tzf123 said:
SMOKI 0.6.3, RA-hero-v1.6.2
it seems like the fix_permissions command can be used in CM ROMS..
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Try running fix_permissions from recovery.
its not working... those apks still stay in 'manage applications'.. altho recovery said its successful
Binary100100 said:
Try running fix_permissions from recovery.
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LOL, problem solved, by editing the packages.xml under data/system, somehow the apk details are recorded in that file, so i just delete the corresponding codes and reboot my phone, walllllaaaaaaaaaa
AND, thanks a lot for your guide, LOL
tzf123 said:
LOL, problem solved, by editing the packages.xml under data/system, somehow the apk details are recorded in that file, so i just delete the corresponding codes and reboot my phone, walllllaaaaaaaaaa
AND, thanks a lot for your guide, LOL
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Glad that you got it solved.
Also I hope that you don't mind by I edited your title because your problem wasn't specifically related to the Root Explorer app. This problem would occur if you had used any other means of removing the system app. By editing the title it'll make it easier for those that need assistance with a similar issue post their problems and find solutions. Adding [Solved] is effective to let them know that a resolution is available within the thread.
And it's not my guide, it's a reference for others that can't find the answer with the apparently evasive search feature.
I cant seem to uninstall any of the stock apps that came with the phone. I can delete all the apk files by simply doing rm file.apk, but that only removes the installation file, it doesnt actually uninstall. i found various threads saying they can be uninstalled using the package manager, but i dont have any success.
# pm uninstall com.sprint.zone
pm uninstall com.sprint.zone
Failure
is the error i receive, and that is regardless if which stock app i try to uninstall. ive rooted using the standard method detailed here, not the unrevoked, and i use 'su' before attempting my uninstall, still no luck.
any ideas?
Download Titanium Backup from the market.
tried that this morning, and it does the same thing. the apk file was removed, but settings > applications > manage applications, stil has it in the list
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not sure if i just have it rooted in some weird way, but mounting the /system as rw still wont allow me to delete files. it tells me it deletes them, but they remain after a reboot. if i go thru recovery instead, it seems to resolve the problem, apps removed
I get the same "failure" error message. What does Titanium Backup have to do with this thread?
Do you have Busy Box installed with Titanium?
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endolith said:
I get the same "failure" error message. What does Titanium Backup have to do with this thread?
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Its the app many use to remove the bloatware.
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What does it do exactly? And is it safe to clear it once in a while to give the system a refresh?
-thanks
EDIT: NM.. read up some more and it seems to be safe to do so. MODs please delete...
cbaty08 said:
What does it do exactly? And is it safe to clear it once in a while to give the system a refresh?
-thanks
EDIT: NM.. read up some more and it seems to be safe to do so. MODs please delete...
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Its ok to leave this here. People can learn from it.
I use root explorer to completely erase everything inside of /data/dalvik-cache
Its ok to delete every single file, they get rebuilt upon a reboot. I suggest rebooting immediately after cleaning the file dalvik-cache file.
It seemed to help actually....
I went into system/data and completely deleted the whole dalvic-cache folder and it worked beautifully. I would suggest this to all after you have finalized your MODs!
my mt4g is rooted but i cant delete or move the bloatwares.
astro>system>app (it says: error deleting files)
i dont understand whats going on bcus the steps seem simple but somehow its neither deleting nor allowing it to be moved to my sd card.
any help would be most grateful. thanks in advance.
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and one last question. now that my phones rooted, s=off, may i delete visionary, the terminal emulator, and superuser???
>> i have more tasks running now that its rooted along with my inability to remove the bloatware
For your first question, astro cannot delete system apps if you're not mounted r/w, which you wont be by default. Root Explorer gives you the option to mount r/w and then delete apps. alternatively, you may want to install titanium backup and use the "freeze" feature so you can easily restore them if you want in the future.
You can remove visionary, and the terminal emulator if you want, but you'll need the superuser app to grant root permission to any apps that require root in the future.
Don't arbitrarily delete bloat. Use Titanium to freeze apps you don't want like option94 suggested. Some of those apps are tied into the sense ui and deleting them can make things screwy. After freezing in Titanium, if everything is working well, you can delete if you want. Make a nandroid backup before you do anything permanent. I would leave the stock rom alone and flash a rom like iced glacier which is basically optimized stock with all the bloat removed. Don't forget the make backup part.
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thanks i didnt quite understand what 'mount r/w' means or what it really does but as long as changing it to 'mount r/o' makes those unnecessary apps go away, im happy. thanks again
r/w = read/write - you'll be able to make changes
r/o = read only - you wont be able to make changes.