Simultaneous 3g and wifi. - Android Software Development

If android is connected to a non-internet wifi router (wifi lan), can software still use 3g/EDGE to connect with the internet?
I've seen this thread htt p://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/91/p/2681/10432.aspx but I need to communicate using both 3g and wifi devices.
woops, wrong section. should of been Android Software Development.

Well, I see it is not possible.

I guess u cant. And why u trying to do that? Making ur android as wiLan?
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Where Can i download the built in Infrastructure WIFI tethering app for HD2?

Hi, im in need of some assistance. I have a new android device, the Archos 5IT. my phone is the Tilt 2. i have been unable to get my tilt 2 tethered to it thru wifi. reason being that the xda wifi router app uses adhoc mode. the archos will only see Infrastructure connections. Someone on the archos forum said the HD2 has built in a wifi tethering app that is infrastructure mode. Can someone plz direct me to that app or another wifi tethering app that uses Infrastructure mode only? also, free apps...lol thnkx in advance i figure if i download that app, ill be good, and wont have to take this device back. plus its giving me probs trying to connect thru bt also. lol FIGURES
If you can't find a free one, I recommend WMWifiRouter (v2 and above). It lets you connect multiple devices via Wifi (infrastructure style) and Bluetooth, as well as work as a USB modem and a USB Wifi dongle.
If you have Omarket installed, just download "Mobile Wi-Fi Router." It works GREAT!
Sorry about reviving an old thread. I've been searching and trying to find this exact solution, but neither of the ones listed here are doing "Infrastructure" mode. I'm currently testing WMWifiRouter (v2.0 - build 1502, downloaded directly from their site today) and when I set up the wifi connection, it only gives an option for Ad-Hoc (or none - which is for connecting to another access-point).
Am I missing something with WMWifiRouter, or is there any other app at all that will do Infrastructure mode? I don't mind having to buy something, I just need it working.
Thanks!
JackMetal said:
Sorry about reviving an old thread. I've been searching and trying to find this exact solution, but neither of the ones listed here are doing "Infrastructure" mode. I'm currently testing WMWifiRouter (v2.0 - build 1502, downloaded directly from their site today) and when I set up the wifi connection, it only gives an option for Ad-Hoc (or none - which is for connecting to another access-point).
Am I missing something with WMWifiRouter, or is there any other app at all that will do Infrastructure mode? I don't mind having to buy something, I just need it working.
Thanks!
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Sorry if I am not clear with your issues above.
But, Winmo 6.5 in HD2, has a native wifi tethering application.
There is an option menu (in Comm Manager) to turn on the Wifi Router.
This will make your HD2 as an Access Point. It can accept 5 devices.
Cheers..
Yes but only in adhoc mode, not in infrastructure mode, which appears to be needed for connecting some devices like psp and my new HTC flyer!
Same problem with GT 10.1 and HTC HD2
I have the wifi router program but it's not working with my galaxy tab 10.1, how can i tell if its adhoc or infrastructure signal?
total noob said:
I have the wifi router program but it's not working with my galaxy tab 10.1, how can i tell if its adhoc or infrastructure signal?
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Hi, I am researching this as well, and here is what I have found so far.
1. Android does not currently support/connect to ad-hoc WiFi, only Infrastructure mode.
2. If your Android tablet device can not see the WiFi from your phone hotspot but a PC Can, then it is probably ad-hoc, as my WinMo HTC HD2 is.
3. I have an Asus Transformer tablet with Android 3.1 and this can not see my WiFi from the WiFi hotspot settings, but my PC can see it and connect to the HD2.
4. If there is an Android ROM for your phone, (XDA Forums) that will run from the SD card, you can boot into that and use the WiFi hotspot (Tethering) from the Android ROM. This seems to work fine on my setup.
Hope this helps
really would rather not root if at all possible
since i live in fear of ending up with a very expensive brick (by messing up rooting my xoom) - has anyone come up with a way to make the winmo htc hd2 send out an infrastructure wifi signal?
eibhis said:
since i live in fear of ending up with a very expensive brick (by messing up rooting my xoom) - has anyone come up with a way to make the winmo htc hd2 send out an infrastructure wifi signal?
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Simple answer is no. Winmo 6.5 will not do infrastructure wifi hotspot, no matter whether native Winmo app or a 3rd party app (i.e., WMWifirouter). You're going to have to do what I'm doing with my HD2. Go thru the learning process of installing an Android build on your SD card, and then boot into Android. You've very little risk of bricking the HD2 if you read carefully and follow the guides. [However, these guides are definitely written by geeks, not editors who write and re-write to be explicitly clear.] Supposedly, the Android Wifi router is infrastructure, but I've not yet gotten to that point in my own process. The first one I tried to install (AmeriCanAndroid) didn't complete booting up successfully, so I tried another Android build (MIUI), but in it I'm not finding a wifi tethering app. And, in it, the Market app is crashing. So, I'm now on the search for a 3rd Android build. The payoff is big (wifi tethering to my Viewpad 7 tablet), so I persevere. Good luck to you on your journey.

[Q] Tethering Adam with a Windows Mobile device Adhoc, usb, or otherwise.

Hey All,
I have been messing with my Adam for a bit. I have been trying to figure a way to tether the device. I know Android 2.3 supports Adhoc networks, but not 2.2.
Although the Adam's kernal seems to be much higher revision than 2.2, the device itself only seems to have native 2.2 config options, with an Adam skin. With that said, I cannot get the Adam to tether/connect to an adhoc network, no matter what I try.
I have a Sprint Touch Pro. I can get it to detect as a 3G Usb modem in windows, and it automatically detects as such when hooked into a linux machine, but sadly does not do anything in Android/The Adam. The adam will pair with it over BT, but will not connect to it, and will not even see it in wifi-tether mode.
Any ideas? Is this something fixable with a settings change? Rooting? An app (on the phone or the adam?)
Any/all help or insight is appreciated.
Edit: I apologize, this was meant for the General Discussion. I don't see a way to move or delete this thread now, either. If the mods can move it, that'd be great. If not, I guess my questions still stand.
Assuming you want to tether to provide a more "mobile" internet connection:
Does your phone have some sort of WiFi tether app for it? If not you could attempt to run Android on your WinMo phone via Haret and then try installing a WiFi tether app and see if it works.
I would imagine to tether over USB Adam would need some type of drivers for mobile devices and that gets tricky. I would first try to tether Adam to a Windows or Linux computer with an Internet connection first, see if you can get that to work. Than go to your phone and try that. If it doesn't work from a computer it probably will not work from a phone.
If you want to tether for other purposes such as transferring files, SSH, SFTP, ADB, logcat, etc there are apps for those.
Correct, tethering for mobile internet.
I've actually tried the XDAndroid 2.2 and the 2.0.6 wifi tether app on my phone, but sadly it seems to create adhoc only, I've been unable to get it to create infrastructure, as well as it sometimes thinks it doesn't have root.
I'd have to get a male/male or female/female USB cable to try tethering to my PC, but i'll see if I can't figure that out.
Honestly, I'd be perfectly fine with Wifi tethering if the adam would detect Adhoc, as the XDA wifi tether android app can do that no problem.
Edit: On the windows mobile side, I've tried PDA net and internet connection sharing. Internet connection sharing supports Bluetooth DUN, but the adam doesn't seem to do anything with it, it'll pair but not connect to it. PDA net also seems to just do adhoc broadcast, which the adam cannot detect.
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You answered the question before I could post it. (if you have wifi tethering capability on your phone)
Eujin said:
Correct, tethering for mobile internet.
I've actually tried the XDAndroid 2.2 and the 2.0.6 wifi tether app on my phone, but sadly it seems to create adhoc only, I've been unable to get it to create infrastructure, as well as it sometimes thinks it doesn't have root.
I'd have to get a male/male or female/female USB cable to try tethering to my PC, but i'll see if I can't figure that out.
Honestly, I'd be perfectly fine with Wifi tethering if the adam would detect Adhoc, as the XDA wifi tether android app can do that no problem.
Edit: On the windows mobile side, I've tried PDA net and internet connection sharing. Internet connection sharing supports Bluetooth DUN, but the adam doesn't seem to do anything with it, it'll pair but not connect to it. PDA net also seems to just do adhoc broadcast, which the adam cannot detect.
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So you tried 2.0.6 wifi tether app for WinMo? do you have a link for this app?
Er, no. I tried 2.0.6 wifi tether app for Android, running XDAndroid 2.2 for WM6. Link here to the app
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
I also tried wmwifirouter in windows mobile, link here http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
I had to replace my wpa_supplicant file to get ad-hoc networking working on my Dell Streak. Maybe its similar for Adam.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10514373&highlight=hoc+found#post10514373
http://android.modaco.com/content/d...c-network-connection-for-streak/#entry1381049
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-863976.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754961
I'm trying to get in to modify the wpa_supplicant as mentioned, but I'm starting to think more and more the adam doesn't have superuser/root access like they've said, as all terminal apps I've tried have failed. Thanks for the heads up, though.
If anyone else finds any alternatives in the meantime, let me know.
You would replace the supplicant file on XDAndroid, not on Adam. The supplicant is for the system running wifi tether acting as the hotspot.
Ok, I feel stupid, but ptok's post makes it sounds like he modified the supplicant on his streak so it would see ad-hoc networks.
Wouldn't I want to modify the Adam so it can see ad-hoc, since my phone can already push out ad-hoc even in WinMo?
Eujin said:
Ok, I feel stupid, but ptok's post makes it sounds like he modified the supplicant on his streak so it would see ad-hoc networks.
Wouldn't I want to modify the Adam so it can see ad-hoc, since my phone can already push out ad-hoc even in WinMo?
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Good luck with that. You're talking about reverse engineering drivers, recompiling kernels, and a lot of time spent for little gain and possibly no gain. It is almost always easier to attempt to get the wifi spewing device to act as an AP than it is to get something else to comprehend ad hoc networks. Besides, security is stronger with the former than the latter.
What about the XDA WiFi Tether from here. Is it any newer, is there an option for WPA? If not thats about all the help I can provide. You are probably going to have to go to XDAndroid forums and ask how to turn the phone into an AP or ask about WPA supplicant info.
Just remembered that some folks on XDA were trying to do the same thing with the Hero I think. They started some stuff and never finished, but did get WiFi Tether to support WPA which is a step in the right direction. You could hunt around the Hero CDMA dev forum and see if anything exists.
Sorry I couldn't help more.
Just read this thread at Notion Ink Hacks that ad hoc should work...
http://notioninkhacks.com/forums/vi...sid=0ee5dff6243da9c4d02433800dd9f4b1&start=60
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webs05 said:
Just read this thread at Notion Ink Hacks that ad hoc should work...
http://notioninkhacks.com/forums/vi...sid=0ee5dff6243da9c4d02433800dd9f4b1&start=60
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I get a "You are not authorised to read this forum" when I try to follow this link. However, I do see that the Notion Ink Hacks update includes Adhoc. Cool.
Tried that on my friend's Adam. It worked.
I can confirm that the NIH updates have enabled ad-hoc tethering, and it works great.
Ad Hoc
What ROM did you use that Ad-Hoc worked on? I am running EdenX and I can connect to an ad-hoc network, but not actually use the internet access through the connection.
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I was using WMWifiRouter, which resulted in the scenario identified above. I downloaded the HTC Wifi app that I found in one of the other XDA forums, installed it on my phone and created a hotspot with it and it worked fully. Apparently there is something different in the HTC implementation as compared to the WMWifiRouter app implementation that lets one work fully and the other only to allow a connection, but not access the internet.
WiFi Tethering Adam and Nexus One
Eujin said:
Hey All,
I have been messing with my Adam for a bit. I have been trying to figure a way to tether the device. I know Android 2.3 supports Adhoc networks, but not 2.2.
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I simply set my Nexus One as a WiFi Hotspot ... configure it with a SSID and WPA2 PSK security and a Password ... then turn on the WiFi on the Adam and enter the Passphrase. Away it goes. That is why I ordered a WiFi only model.

[q] wired tether.

I've done tons of searching for solutions to my internet connectivity problems in my house.
First off, I don't have a job; so therefore there is no money coming in so I can make this simple and easy. Do not tell me to buy a wifi adapter or something like that.
I know that the HD2 with the bone stock hd2 rom from T-Mobile has the WMWiFiRouter app that allows you to share a WIFI CONNECTION (NOT 3G/EDGE) via usb to a device (computer, xbox, etc).
Well, now HD2 has the droid option and I upgraded. Running android via root, not SD.
I need to know if there is any app, or anything out there that will let me use my WIFI CONNECTION FROM MY PHONE, AND TETHER IT VIA USB TO A DEVICE. I do not have 3G/EDGE connectivity, so thats not a path we can go down. I want to connect to the wifi in my house, and share that connection from my phone to a device via USB. thanks.
delirium5 said:
I've done tons of searching for solutions to my internet connectivity problems in my house.
First off, I don't have a job; so therefore there is no money coming in so I can make this simple and easy. Do not tell me to buy a wifi adapter or something like that.
I know that the HD2 with the bone stock hd2 rom from T-Mobile has the WMWiFiRouter app that allows you to share a WIFI CONNECTION (NOT 3G/EDGE) via usb to a device (computer, xbox, etc).
Well, now HD2 has the droid option and I upgraded. Running android via root, not SD.
I need to know if there is any app, or anything out there that will let me use my WIFI CONNECTION FROM MY PHONE, AND TETHER IT VIA USB TO A DEVICE. I do not have 3G/EDGE connectivity, so thats not a path we can go down. I want to connect to the wifi in my house, and share that connection from my phone to a device via USB. thanks.
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You know...4 sum1 who needs help, u do have quite an "attitude"....Here's some advice, Try presenting ur question in a pleasing manner n u'll get d help u seek...

Wifi Connection shared as a Wifi Router

Hi,
as there are no threads about this (i havent found anything), i will post a new one.
my main question is: is it possible to get a wifi connection on your phone and share this connection at the same time through wifi (so you get a wifi hotspot or whatever)? (android, windows mobile, windows phone -> whatever, got a HD2)
it works on multiple computers with windows 7, but i never got how to do that with ma HD2.
hopefully,
sallal
EDIT: forgot the [Q] thing, sry
as no one replies
#push
they're are many apps that can do this, just search WIFI tether in the market (android), IDK about WM7 though.
For android you can also run CM7 which has tethering built into it. I use it and it works like a charm, it's fast too.
Sorry for my question ,but with this program i can use my tablet as a router?
I have 3G so i can use this connection for internet and WIFI for make my tablet a router?
the app allows you to "tether"/use your device as a router. SO yes.
The are CMInternetSharing package that is used to share internet connection from a Mobile (that we get using GPRS/3G) as a WiFi Router to others...
If you have a WiFi Connection that your mobile is consuming then what is the need for re-sharing same connection from mobile?
Let me know if I am not sure about the question
Thanks.
Am no expert but i think this is true...
A wireless device can either be used as a client or as a router, you would need 2 wireless interfaces to do what you are looking for. When the tether apps start they configure your wireless interface as a router... I dont believe it can be running as both types at once.
but you most defenetly could use your 3g or whatever cell signal you have and offer it thru a wifi interface, you must have root access.
Cheers
maybe there is a way
you could switch the wifi with a 3g lookalike so 3g uses your wifi and then download a wifi tether i am looking for this quit a time and i diddn't found anything but this is al theory
I do it with a stock app of my device, it's calls "3g mobile's wifi point"
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marlonmelieste said:
you could switch the wifi with a 3g lookalike so 3g uses your wifi and then download a wifi tether i am looking for this quit a time and i diddn't found anything but this is al theory
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hmm that would be a thing i should look at...
i always used on windows 7 "connectify me", a program made for taking wireless internet connection or LAN and sharing it at the same time as a router.
the virtual wifi miniport is used for this i suppose.
maybe there is something like the virtual miniport to manage in windows mobile or android?
sallal said:
Hi,
it works on multiple computers with windows 7, but i never got how to do that with ma HD2.
hopefully,
sallal
EDIT: forgot the [Q] thing, sry
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I use one from the XDA forums, search for wifi router
It works great on my HD2 with WINMO
sir,i have already mentioned.....try "mhotspot" easily converts ur lap/pc into wifi hotspot(n/w will be detected by android mobiles,worked for my ACE) its better than connectify because..we dont need to install it..and soo we can over come protocol related problems and system instability issues

[Q] can't connect to phone's hotspot

I just got the Acer Iconia A500 8gb. I know nothing about rooting or flashing or new rom or w/e. It's stock OS (android 3.2)
The tablet can't connect to my phone's wifi hotspot
iPhone 3G
MyWi tethering app
T-Mobile
Please help
If you need more details, let me know
Are you trying to connect to the hotspot on your iPhone 3g? If you are, that means you don't have wifi hotspot, but personal hotspot, which connects through bluetooth. I am pretty sure you cannot do this on stock ROM, you need to root it in order to enable this functionality. I was able to connect to a personal hotspot on an iPhone 3Gs with Thor's ROM.
Furthermore if you are trying to connect to a phone with wifi hotspot, that will not work either as stock tablets cannot connect to ad-hoc networks. There is a specific file that is in the android system that disables this ability.
Not sure if that is totally correct. My G2 which is rooted can be run as a wifi hotspot, and when my tablet was on stock 3.2 unrooted, it connected to it without issue... Unless I've completely misunderstood your post.
ad-hoc support
i think the phones hot spot is ad-hoc if this is true .. you will have to downgrade. root and replace the ad-hoc file .
the iconia does not support ad-hoc networks out of the box.
this is all over this forum.. probably the very most asked Question.. Do a simple search and you will find more information.
goodluck
fermunky said:
Not sure if that is totally correct. My G2 which is rooted can be run as a wifi hotspot, and when my tablet was on stock 3.2 unrooted, it connected to it without issue... Unless I've completely misunderstood your post.
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That's odd, maybe your G2 runs the wifi hotspot in infrastructure mode. I was under the impression that all hotspot features on phones were ad-hoc though, but I most certainly could be wrong.
erica_renee said:
i think the phones hot spot is ad-hoc if this is true .. you will have to downgrade. root and replace the ad-hoc file .
the iconia does not support ad-hoc networks out of the box.
this is all over this forum.. probably the very most asked Question.. Do a simple search and you will find more information.
goodluck
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That's what I read all over the place too.
In terms of connecting to the iPhone though, the iPhone4 was the first iPhone to introduce wifi hotpot. The previous gen have personal hotspot which connected through bluetooth. I know that an unrooted Iconia cannot connect to a 3Gs's personal hotspot. I've tried it and when I switched to Thor's ROM, I was able to connect to it.

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