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I just finished my 24 hour testing of the Nexus One for my employer and figured I would give my 2 cents worth:
1. On screen keyboard: Great, especially when used in landscape. Portrait has a bit more room side to side than the G1, and it makes it easier, but I wouldn't go so far to say in protrait it is a night and day difference. Landscape truly is, and I had no problem typing long messages in landscape mode, and using portrait for quick stuff. A physical keyboard is still a better option, IMO as a keyboard lover, but the onscreen is executed very, very well.
2. Speed/Android 2.1: I have tested some of the 2.1 ports on my G1, and as nice as they are, they do not give justice at all too what 2.1 is on a Nexus One. Blanket statement, the phone is faster and 2.1 is a great advancement. A more astute observation that I wasn't expecting, websites load much, much, much faster on the Nexus One. I didn't do an actual stop watch test, but a realistic guess says sites load about twice as fast. I am on an EDGE network where I do most of my surfing when not using WiFi... when on WiFi it was more dramatic (I actually loaded 1 site faster on the Nexus One than on my computer)
3. Stability: I tried my absolute best to slow it down and make it unstable. Couldn't do it. At one point in time, I had 23 apps open, the browser had 3 windows, I had youtube running, music, and so forth. Of course, several of the apps had to "reload" the last point I was at, but with this phone "reloading" is pretty much instant. The longest it ever took was one of the web pages had to re-download the content. I found that the phone's cache held my normal use just fine without ever having to reload.
4. Fit/Finish/Style: The phone has a very solid feel too, despite being very light in weight. Fits well in the hand, comfortable being used as a phone, and I got a lot of comments on it when I was out and about testing the "wow" factor (I was asked to go to a busy restaurant/bar and see how many people asked me about it). And, as odd as this might sound, being right handed the back button being on the far left was not a big deal, and I actually liked it's placement a lot since when I used it in landscape mode it was much more comfortable hitting it, and I think this is what they had in mind when they designed in like that.
5. Battery Life: Damn! That is all you need to know, Damn! I tried, really, really hard to push this to the max and see how fast I could run it down. I had WiFi and GPS both going, music playing, and was surfing the web as quick as possible, messing around with google maps taking a look at new and interesting places, and gave up. I used 80% of the battery in those 24 hours, but I was trying my best, for a little above typical usage it only went down 20% from 9AM-5PM. My G1 is usually about 60% gone over that period.
6. Conclusion: I am someone that pretty much demands a physical keyboard for me to even think about buying a phone. I am getting a Nexus One as soon as they become available through the company I work for. My manager is a BB addict, and she said as soon as we get it she is switching as well. That is a huge statement, her daily phone is a BB 9700, she texts and writes most of her emails from her phone, and the Nexus One out performed her BB 9700. She was using the google voice service to write, but she said out of all the texts and emails she wrote using it she didn't have a single typo!
Thank you for making my poverty that much more depressing.
cloverdale said:
Thank you for making my poverty that much more depressing.
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lmao i second that!
But seriously, great review!!
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I third that
But excellent review by the way (especially on the battery usage!)
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Too right, mate!
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I third that
But excellent review by the way (especially on the battery usage!)
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Your welcome! I will say, if you check out the Nexus One forum opinions differ on battery life, but those saying it isn't good enough or are having issues with it not lasting long enough seem to have something off IMO.
I would say, with my normal usage, I could get 2 days of use on a full battery. Doing power use to the max I would get a full day. The only way I see this phone not lasting an entire day is if you are surfing the web, playing music, and using GPS non-stop type thing.
i seriously want a nexus so #$#[email protected]#$ bad its insane. but i cant afford it. being 18 sucks
no, being 14 and wanting a new android device sucks
hiddengopher said:
no, being 14 and wanting a new android device sucks
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That it does...........
hiddengopher said:
no, being 14 and wanting a new android device sucks
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I know, its so hard to get enough when your parents wont buy it for you.
And being to young for a job doesnt exactly help either.
I don't have mine yet but I love the fact that it fits in my pocket and not my iPad.
I agree. Ability to have 2 free hands is a god send.
Movies look awesome man. I've been playing games as well and I love it. On the cons side, I don't like that the browser takes you to the mobile version of the websites.
There is so much to like. Everything feels a lot more natural. Typing, browsing navigation. Yum
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I would have to say portability is the best quality. The biggest con for me is I can do everything on my EVO that the Tab can do. Im going to fully use my 29days to figure out if I want it or not.
7" is a great form factor for a tablet (sorry Steve). Soon there will be more competition in this field, but the build quality, large battery and full-featureness of the Samsung Galaxy Tab will be hard to match. I can see a few ways to improve the Tab: display with better viewing angles, refersh rate and lower power consumption, dual core Tegra 2 processor (although the software would need to take advantage of it), better camera, built-in software (driver and app) for FM radio chipset, worldwide integrated DMB TV tuner (currently only in some parts of the world), HDMI stand included with tablet (currently an expensive accessory), standard mini USB plug, . . . But otherwise the Tab is a pretty great device as it is now
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The phone
Everything really. It really is 'one device does all'
When I'm on support duty, I need to lug around a netboot 'just in case' as well as my phone of course. Now can do it all from one device.
7" IS perfect. For me. (LCD Density app on the market helps get that little extra wiggle room, well recommended).
GF has an iPad that she enjoys, but she's getting frustrated by it's lack of flash more and more. Whilst she just uses it for email/browsing Perez whilst watching telly, it's been great. When she needs to do a bit of research, it's limitations are becoming clear. I've not had that issue. I've been able todo everything I need from it. (vnc'ing back to my linux box to handle work stuff, I have no problems with).
Also been able to setup my Everquest account to be able to be logged in and checked. Using vnc->Flash. It's slow, but it works. When I've tried todo that on the iPad, I've run into that whole 'no, you're not allowed todo that'. With the Tab (well, Android in general really), it's kinda the Unix philosophy, lots of little tools/apps that you can string together to let you work the way YOU want to.
Cons
hmm... Still annoyed that voice isn't as standard on the US models. That's just... well, stupid. Having to flash the euro rom works around it, but it's annoying to lose 3G for that. Unless it gets resolved properly soon (stock rom, and some app/mobile.bin that lets me use the mostly standard rom and get 3G AND get updates easily), I might look into the Skype/Google Voice solution that others have mentioned.
Wouldn't mind an earpiece so those rare moments I don't have the bluetooth headset, I can hold it up, and not mind looking silly. Maybe. Not sure. I'd like to have at least had the option.
The thing I really I love about my Tab is that it has turned my HTC Desire into just a phone, and my PC into something I just use during the day for work.
The Tab is now my primary method for internet and multimedia consumption when I'm not at my desk working.
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Dave
I am going to like my Tab better than the iPad I own.
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The fact that it's small and I can stop downloading apps on my g1 that dosen't do well with many apps lol. Also I like that its not extremely light and dosen't feel too fragile.
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You sonofabitch!
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Oh, and things I like about it...
What isn't to like? (Obviously trying to ignore US carriers' decisions to remove voice calling capability -- as that is a monster FAIL.)
This is one sweet piece of hardware. Actually, strike that. That doesn't do it justice.
This is... ahem... the coolest piece of gadgetry I have ever owned to-date. (Again, obviously trying to ignore the no-voice-calling horse**** -- and no, I can't leave that caveat off.)
Some of my friends working at the Apple Store are dissing the Tab as a failure...
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Some of my friends working at the Apple Store are dissing the Tab as a failure...
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And that's surprising why?
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Heh agreed
Apple appeals to less intelligent people that thinks its fashion.
Imo the 10" tabs like ipad are to big and heavy to function well in the hands. It tire out my hands and you have to hold it in one hand to reach everything on the screen.
Its to big to have it with you all time and dont fit in the pocket. I can just take with me the laptop instead in the nice little bag.
I have the tab with me all the time. I dont have a phone with me anymore. It has perfect size and isnt to heavy. The screen resulotion does surfing better then on a phone and the 7" makes it easyer to see whats on it.
The sgt works well for chatting, atleast i can type fast as hell on it now. Almost the same as a regular keyboard.
Pretty entertaining games. Getting a little sick of Angry Birds now but there lots of fun game with pretty sweet 3D graphics.
Surfing works good altho the browser that came with the tab is a little stuttery. I use Opera most of the time now wich is super smooth for me and when i need flash to work or something isnt working correct in Opera i use Dolphin HD.
The screen is pretty good and watchin movies, reading books and magazines works great.
It feels realy good and sturdy even with the plastic back.
The battery seems to have no problem keeping up a whole day. I have bluetooth on the whole time, msn up and chatting alot, playing and surfing alot. Sitting next to my machine on my work and passing time with my little cute tab. And mine is going to get better because its still new. On my phone the battery time got a whole lot better after a while.
Hmm... what more, what more... Its just a sweet and imo perfect device.
The best is the screen of course. I love, love the big screen. At my office there are some hardcore iPad lovers and some Galaxy fans. And I have the biggest Galaxy screen!
I really like the brightness of the colors as well, everything looks so fresh and new. I get a lot of compliments from people around me, everybody wants to hold it. For me the 7inch was the deciding factor, 10inch is way too big for me, with my woman hands (at 1.60 m I don't have large hands). Working with the keyboard at landscape I can type really fast with just two fingers.
Considering I used to own WM devices before, I have to say I really, really like the Android platform. So I am not sure, that is the main reason but everything works really fast and downloads are easy.
I keep telling everybody that the Tab is a woman device, I can hold it in one hand, wonderful.
I think I haven't been this excited about a device for a long, long time.
It's 7" and fits right in one hand, the screen looks great, 2 cameras, I can type pretty fast with 2 fingers now, or swype. I do a lot of my writing on it while watching movie. And I can use it as a phone if I so desire.
Plus it's the best tablet that I can stick into my pocket and be on the go. Now I got to figure out whether I go for the T-Mobile or Verizon version first.
@dukins
Same here, I don't have the Tab, & just sold my Evo, but it's like...... 7" isn't that much for something that is just a bigger Evo LOL, would really prefer 10"
But since I'm going to WP7, I may get one eventually, if not an Archos & flash it to get the official market. Who knows, maybe I'll end up with an iPad, I really don't know. 7" just doesn't do it for me since every smartphone with a touch screen I've owned has been 3.7" to 4.3"
& it's like, now they are already talking about their new Galaxy Tab. I think I'll wait for the thinner, faster version then.
Camera zoom would be nice too. I mean I can live without 720p recording.. I guess that's what smartphones are for instead of smarttabs?
Display - Pretty good but not nearly as great as the iPad's.. nor is it as bright as the iPad. Pixel density looks A LOT like the iPad.. I can't really say the Xoom is any sharper than the iPad.. Whites look much better on the iPad.. they definately have a much higher color gamut and contrast ratio on the iPad. This is disappointing considering how much the Xoom costs off-contract. The Xoom screen looks nearly identical to what Samsung uses on their Galaxy Tab 7". Viewing angles are "decent" but again, not as good as iPad. I would say they are using a cheap PVA type panel, not IPS on this unit. PVA is still much better than TN at least.
Weight - Same weight as iPad.. so to me, it feels too heavy for it's size... but I think the Xoom is much easier to hang onto/hold because of it's widescreen nature'd body.
Speed - Depending on apps I guess.. or how optimized they are.. Angry Birds Seasons (the tablet version) runs like crap compared to Angry Birds on my Galaxy Tab.. not sure why.. Web browsing is a real treat.. Definately renders web sites faster than the iPad.. content is ready to explore at a much faster pace.. However, scrolling isn't as nice as it is on the iPad.. I don't know why Android can't get scrolling anywhere near iOS's Safari. Scrolling is choppy and clunky depending on how many pictures are needed to be shown on the screen at one time. Quadrant scores LOWER than my Galaxy Tab.. Could be Quadrant's not optimized well enough for the Tegra2 platform.
Battery Life - I will have to edit this in later.. my Xoom came out of the box with 77% life..
Interface/UI - I actually like Honeycombs UI.. the quick-softkeys are delightful to use.. especially to multitask with.. Flying between apps is instantaneous and snappy.. much faster than iPad's multitasking.
Speakers - Horrible placement.. they project all sound away from you being on the rear of the device when you're holding the Xoom.. so everybody else hears MORE than what you're hearing.. Otherwise they sound pretty good.. I would say as good as iPad.. and even louder.
Data Connectivity - Verizon 3g on the Xoom FLIES.. I've gotten over 2mb down and over 1mb up.. the modem chip inside the Xoom must be pretty exceptional.. my Galaxy S phone (also on Verizon) barely gets over 1mb down and about 600-700kbps up. Wifi on the other hand seems weak.. my connection is constantly dropping to my home's Wifi connection.. and the Wifi router is just 1 room away :/
Interesting Tid-Bits
The built-in "Chrome" Browser is GPU accelerated.. resulting in much smoother/faster rendering/scrolling.. When installing a 3rd party Browser like Dolphin HD, the web browsing experience plummets, which reminds you of your first Android powered phone and browser.. slow rendering and horrible, choppy scrolling. So with this said, if an app isn't taking advantage of the Tegra2 SOC, don't expect much performance.. this probably also explains the crappy framerates you get when running Quadrant.
I'll post more later.. going back to playing with the Xoom.
the ac adapter ... does it support the european voltages (between 220-240 volt)
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the ac adapter ... does it support the european voltages (between 220-240 volt)
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The AC adapter says this:
Input: 100-240V~50/60hz 0.6A
Output: 12V --- 1.5A
Hey Diversion, have you noticed any Force Closes, I wouldn't say an abnormal amount, but anything significant since you've been using it?
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Hey Diversion, have you noticed any Force Closes, I wouldn't say an abnormal amount, but anything significant since you've been using it?
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I had a few in the browser, but i had about 5 tabs open of nothing buy pictures.
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Nope, not a single Force Close yet today.. The first time I opened the Market it said my Market was "Out of date" but after closing out and going back in, all was well.
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I had a few in the browser, but i had about 5 tabs open of nothing buy pictures.
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I haven't gone more than 2 tabs in the browser so far.. i'll open a lot more windows and see if I can get mine to FC.
Thanks buddy, I appreciate it. So far i'm imperssed, honestly. I think it's a solid device. Worth 800 bucks? Probably not, but over 18 months, what the hell, I can afford to be an early adopter. I may invest in an anti glare screen. I can't tell if it's so nice looking that its glassy, or so poorly implemented that its a glare magnent, lol.
Either way, i'm happy with my investment, and I really hope google puts a lot of attention to fixing bugs and any other issues with Honeycomb.
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Thanks buddy, I appreciate it. So far i'm imperssed, honestly. I think it's a solid device. Worth 800 bucks? Probably not, but over 18 months, what the hell, I can afford to be an early adopter. I may invest in an anti glare screen. I can't tell if it's so nice looking that its glassy, or so poorly implemented that its a glare magnent, lol.
Either way, i'm happy with my investment, and I really hope google puts a lot of attention to fixing bugs and any other issues with Honeycomb.
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It's just as glossy as the iPad/Galaxy Tab (I own both).. I was in my car using my Xoom in a parking lot.. and it was just badddd.. sun glaring in my eyes lol.. But I expected that.
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It's just as glossy as the iPad/Galaxy Tab (I own both).. I was in my car using my Xoom in a parking lot.. and it was just badddd.. sun glaring in my eyes lol.. But I expected that.
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I can agree with that, I don't know.. It doesn't outweigh the pros as of yet. The main thing that i'm eager to test at this point is the Battery, and some of the dual core optimized games and what not. What about you? Are you looking for anything in particular? Any other experience you can comment on? So far, by the way, tethering to my droid x is working phenomenally.
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I can agree with that, I don't know.. It doesn't outweigh the pros as of yet. The main thing that i'm eager to test at this point is the Battery, and some of the dual core optimized games and what not. What about you? Are you looking for anything in particular? Any other experience you can comment on? So far, by the way, tethering to my droid x is working phenomenally.
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What I'm really looking for is a Tablet with an alternative OS (anything not Windows) with great battery life and gives me the tools to be as productive as a netbook.. Far reaching goals im sure though.
Does honeycomb have an easy way for selecting in the middle of sentences / words? I know the IPad has a magnify glass come up when you hold your finger near a word so that you can see exactly where the cursor is, does honeycomb do something similar? Also, how is the copy/paste in honeycomb? I know on my 2.3 phone, it's not that great and hard to select exactly what you want.
you able to find google body app... cant find it on market and it's not preinstalled???
Can you try viewing streaming websites on WiFi (justin.tv or ustream.tv) and see how the tablet handles higher quality streams?
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you able to find google body app... cant find it on market and it's not preinstalled???
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I was wondering the same thing.
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The only one that I've seen so far is when trying to run "Remote Desktop Client" by Xtralogic. No dice so far, so I'll have to keep a look out for a Xoom-Approved RDP client
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Does honeycomb have an easy way for selecting in the middle of sentences / words? I know the IPad has a magnify glass come up when you hold your finger near a word so that you can see exactly where the cursor is, does honeycomb do something similar? Also, how is the copy/paste in honeycomb? I know on my 2.3 phone, it's not that great and hard to select exactly what you want.
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When you click the words a little pointer comes up, drag it were you want it.
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schnoz said:
Does honeycomb have an easy way for selecting in the middle of sentences / words? I know the IPad has a magnify glass come up when you hold your finger near a word so that you can see exactly where the cursor is, does honeycomb do something similar? Also, how is the copy/paste in honeycomb? I know on my 2.3 phone, it's not that great and hard to select exactly what you want.
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I have no experience with Android 2.3.. but there seems to be a pretty nice/decent cut and paste built in.. I haven't used it yet.
I have had an iPad since july of last year, sold it yesterday in prepartion for the Xoom purchase today. Walked into Verizon purchased the Xoom and walked right out no hassle, no activation required. Here my Mini Review so far, with some comparisons to my previous 32gb ipad.
Hardware:
Nice heft, feels really solid and has that industrial feel. I do not feel I am going to drop it because it slips out of my hand... i always felt that way when holding an ipad.
its a 16:10 screen so it is wider than it is long. Should be perfect for movies.
Screen is a finger print magnet like ipad.
Software:
Gmail- is incredible on this thing. Drag and drop, color labels, etc. the workflow with gmail is priceless and so fluid. I cannot speak of the general "email" app because i only use gmail.
youtube- way way faster loading videos on this than it was on the ipad. it has some eye candy, which is always nice.. esp for android.
browser- Browser is great! and it loads pages faster than my ipad did. also it has tabs and THEY DO NOT RELOAD ON SWITCHING!! I had 8 tabs open... flipping through them flawlessly! As always using google account you can sync bookmarks and such between desktop and xoom.
Havent tried the music app yet
The gallery is like your standard vanilla android gallery.. loaded all my picasa pics from the cloud.
Other apps- there are very few "tablet apps" in the market. The 2 I did DL was pulse and accuweather. Pulse was pretty basic but did take advantage of the fragments. Accuweather is slick... but they need to polish up some pixelation i saw tapping the background "live" water.
Apps like facebook and kindle scale up nicely. While some apps dont like the speedtest app.
Speaking of speed test, i did a load on my wifi connection at 15mbps down and 3 up and i pull 14mbps down and 2 up. My ipad could never pull above 10mbps. I also noticed my signal holding strong than it did on my ipad.
Workflow is great!! This is what i have been missing on ipad... background task, unintrustive notifications.
Thats all I have right now... so far I am liking the decision i made. But i know i will be missing my apps the ipad had!!! Android cant match it yet... it will take some time.
If Xoom battery life is anything like G Tablets (Also Tegra 2) it should have pretty damn good battery Life
Returned my G-Tab today, and bought the Xoom. I think I am having 2nd thoughts though.
I love the G-tab's size, and GUI (go figure). But saw the Xoom at Best Buy, and it was too irresistable to pass up. However, the xoom's size reminds me too much of the Ipad, and I just can't seem to get use to the Honeycomb GUI yet.
I guess the Xoom may just take some warming up to.
Anyone else feel my pain?
Guess I am just looking for some support.
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Returned my G-Tab today, and bought the Xoom. I think I am having 2nd thoughts though.
I love the G-tab's size, and GUI (go figure). But saw the Xoom at Best Buy, and it was too irresistable to pass up. However, the xoom's size reminds me too much of the Ipad, and I just can't seem to get use to the Honeycomb GUI yet.
I guess the Xoom may just take some warming up to.
Anyone else feel my pain?
Guess I am just looking for some support.
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Never had a Galaxy tab and would not want one (at least the current 7" model). I need more screen real estate. I already have an Android phone to cover the smaller screens. I don't like panning and zooming everything.
i love my xoom more and more everyday. I love the hardware accelleration in the browser but I don't like the lack of flash or. Lack of tablet optimized apps at the moment one thing to always remember is updates will always come sooner on a Google eperience device
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i love my xoom more and more everyday. I love the hardware accelleration in the browser but I don't like the lack of flash or. Lack of tablet optimized apps at the moment one thing to always remember is updates will always come sooner on a Google eperience device
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And we already know those are coming, just takes patience. Good point about the Google Experience. Hopefully we will see some updates in the coming weeks.
yes I've seen alot of demos for new apps so I know there on there way. Its weird though if you go to the market and click apps for tablets there's only 16. Half of which are games but if you go to games for tablets section there are more
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yes I've seen alot of demos for new apps so I know there on there way. Its weird though if you go to the market and click apps for tablets there's only 16. Half of which are games but if you go to games for tablets section there are more
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One of my wish list items for market improvement.
I had the Tab and it was a neutered Android phone. Xoom is the way to go...give it some time.
ur serously saying that u liked Android 2.2 on a tab more then honeycomb?
I had a Gtab originally. I got rid of it because the service through TMobile was spotty and the screen was too small. I however love my xoom. Especially since I found a good converter program for all my movies. Once we get SD card support ill be golden
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Returned my G-Tab today, and bought the Xoom. I think I am having 2nd thoughts though.
I love the G-tab's size, and GUI (go figure). But saw the Xoom at Best Buy, and it was too irresistable to pass up. However, the xoom's size reminds me too much of the Ipad, and I just can't seem to get use to the Honeycomb GUI yet.
I guess the Xoom may just take some warming up to.
Anyone else feel my pain?
Guess I am just looking for some support.
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As an owner of the Tab and the ipad.....I have realized that 10 inches is for home and vacation use. 7 inches is portable and can be taken anywhere. I have an Evo which I thought was huge before I got the Tab....now it seems tiny.
I might buy the wifi Xoom if it is priced right but I already know from experience with 10 inches that it will stay at home.
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I sold my Galaxy Tab yesterday, I'm so gald to get rid of it. It was incredibly slow even after overclocking and 2.2 was NOT meant for tablets.
2.2 may not be meant for tabs, but at least it runs flash and all the apps work without being buggy.
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2.2 may not be meant for tabs, but at least it runs flash and all the apps work without being buggy.
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Ran flash incredibly slowly, and the browser crashed all the time... sure.
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Ran flash incredibly slowly, and the browser crashed all the time... sure.
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really? I haven't had any problems with Flash or Dolphin. I watch more videos on the Tab than on my iPad (of course...lol).
Haven't rooted the Tab either (but rooted my Evo almost immediately after getting it)....haven't felt a need. The speed is fine for me.
Though I enjoyed the greater screen real estate (versus my EVO), the Galaxy Tab really is (as someone else already mentioned) just a neutered Android phone. After using the Xoom for several days, and using apps designed for Honeycomb, the difference is remarkable (just try Pulse, YouTube, CNN, or any of the games optimized for 3.0).
I do miss flash in my browser a bit, but that will come soon. I definitely do NOT miss the capacitive buttons on the bottom (a requirement for pre-Honeycomb devices)...it was terribly annoying to be enjoying a video or reading a document and having to be careful with the way I held so as not to accidentally press one of those buttons.
Also, the location of the stereo speakers on the Xoom is so much more sensible than the speaker on the G-Tab, where, once again, if you weren't holding it 'just-so' the sound would be muted by the palm of your hand.
**I have yet to significantly miss the SD card or flash. I do wish we could permanently set the UA string on the stock browser though, and I'm looking forward to the Citrix Receiver being updated for Honeycomb**
For me, flash, UA string, and Citrix will make this device a real killer, and it's good to know they will all be coming very soon.
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Though I enjoyed the greater screen real estate (versus my EVO), the Galaxy Tab really is (as someone else already mentioned) just a neutered Android phone. After using the Xoom for several days, and using apps designed for Honeycomb, the difference is remarkable (just try Pulse, YouTube, CNN, or any of the games optimized for 3.0).
I do miss flash in my browser a bit, but that will come soon. I definitely do NOT miss the capacitive buttons on the bottom (a requirement for pre-Honeycomb devices)...it was terribly annoying to be enjoying a video or reading a document and having to be careful with the way I held so as not to accidentally press one of those buttons.
Also, the location of the stereo speakers on the Xoom is so much more sensible than the speaker on the G-Tab, where, once again, if you weren't holding it 'just-so' the sound would be muted by the palm of your hand.
**I have yet to significantly miss the SD card or flash. I do wish we could permanently set the UA string on the stock browser though, and I'm looking forward to the Citrix Receiver being updated for Honeycomb**
For me, flash, UA string, and Citrix will make this device a real killer, and it's good to know they will all be coming very soon.
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I agree. It's definitely a neutered Android phone...but it stills does everything I need it to do for a portable device. I would probably feel different if it was my only tablet and I didn't already have an iPad for the past year that's had Pulse, the new CNN app, plus too many games that I have spent a fortune on!
Is Word with Friends optimized for the Xoom? A friend brought her husband's Xoom in for me to play with and we downloaded it and the letters were cut off. i thought it was under the tablet optimized section.
I am eyeing the wifi Xoom simply because I prefer Android to iOS but not having Netflix, Hulu, and my games might be too much to give up. Hopefully we'll see more advancement with the Android tablets.
I picked up my tab yesterday and i love it... However right now i feel that aside from browsing the web i use my phone for most things like email and twitter because its more convenient. What do you guys use it for? I want to get the most out of it so fill me in
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there's really nothing that I couldn't do on my phone...it's just easier/better doing it on the tab. For example, I read a ton of ebooks, and have been doing so on my phone, but lately it's started hurting my eyes, plus the small screen means I'm changing pages every 20 seconds which is annoying. or the 10 hour plane flight I'll be on in a couple weeks - I could watch a movie on my phone, but it's so much more enjoyable on the tab.
I think the better comparison is between tab and laptop, which for me is the big question. I use the tab for simply browsing and checking email, but when it comes time to actually do some typing, I go back to the laptop. Swype or not a real keyboard is just so much easier.
I'm the exact opposite.
Since I brought my tab home, I haven't touched my phone. It's been in the charger since Friday night.
I browse, email, text, music -everything basically from this tab.
Try plume for twitter, add swype and friend me for facebook and see if your phone is still more convenient.
Everything I want to see on a screen larger than four inches.
Tablets don't really do anything phones or laptops don't. They're just nice and comfortable to have for browsing the web, consuming media, reading, that kinda stuff. It's preferable to having an unwieldy laptop or tiny phone, so I can't wait till I get mine.
Sure, my phone can do everything my tab does, but a tablet is a lot more comfortable for many things. For example, I can browse the internet on my phone, but I rarely do because it just isn't that comfortable. I only do it when I don't have an option. Tab, however, is almost on par with a pc and way better when on the go.
I'm starting to think the 8.9 might be the sweet spot for a device like this.
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I'm starting to think the 8.9 might be the sweet spot for a device like this.
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I don't think that inch will matter. Especially when the 8.9 is said to have a lower quality display and be a bit thicker.
2 main things that I don't enjoy doing on my EVO:
1. Watching movies on planes. I fly a lot for work.
2. PDF signature app so I can sign and email documents without having to print, sign, scan. I know I can also do this on a phone but much easier on my Tab.
I for one am a ex-cell phone Rep, and the one thing that I spent years preaching was the all-in-one device. The Rep that got my Evo for me was trying to get me a tab when they first came out, and I asked one question that stopped the conversation. Can the tab make a regular phone call, not video chat (facetime,tango,etc..) just a phone call. The answer was no. So I am quite happy with a phone that I use for everything, than a tab that can't do it all
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iil said:
I'm starting to think the 8.9 might be the sweet spot for a device like this.
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Would you mind sharing why you are thinking so?
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I for one am a ex-cell phone Rep, and the one thing that I spent years preaching was the all-in-one device. The Rep that got my Evo for me was trying to get me a tab when they first came out, and I asked one question that stopped the conversation. Can the tab make a regular phone call, not video chat (facetime,tango,etc..) just a phone call. The answer was no. So I am quite happy with a phone that I use for everything, than a tab that can't do it all
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See I look at it the other way. I believe in using the right tool for the job. For example, a spork can do anything a spoon or fork could do but I'll never use a spork because it will never do as good a job as a dedicated spoon or fork. I hope that makes sense. It sounded good in my head.
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Would you mind sharing why you are thinking so?
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Form factor. The 10.1 feels nice in my hand but when I have both my phone and 10.1 to me I almost always reach for the phone due to its size. Picking up the 10.1 just feels awkward and clunky. I just have a feeling that the 8.9 might be in that sweet spot (for me) where I wouldn't hesitate to grab it instead.
Now...I think the 10.1 is the perfect size if I was using it for a business but...for me it is just for fun.
I have only had the thing for a day though so opinions might change. Right now I find I'm using the tab mostly with XDA and tapatalk.
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I'm the exact opposite.
Since I brought my tab home, I haven't touched my phone. It's been in the charger since Friday night.
I browse, email, text, music -everything basically from this tab.
Try plume for twitter, add swype and friend me for facebook and see if your phone is still more convenient.
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Amen! Especially your last sentence!
Using it has cut my phone usage by at least half. PC usage by 80%.
Maybe its the novelty? Time will tell. But Outside of text messaging I prefer to pick up the tab.
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Using it has cut my phone usage by at least half. PC usage by 80%.
Maybe its the novelty? Time will tell. But Outside of text messaging I prefer to pick up the tab.
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Try this for texting http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010597
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I think the better comparison is between tab and laptop, for me is the big question. I use the tab for simply browsing and checking email, but when it comes time to actually do some typing, I go back to the laptop. Swype or not a real keyboard is just so much easier.
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Was going to do a different thread, but this seems like a good place for me to ask..
I'm thinking about getting the 10.1 as a *replacement* for my laptop. I have the advantage of a terminal server at work (ie I can have my tablet "running" Windows 2003 Server, and I can use Logmein to control my laptop @ home (Windows XP).
The main things I do on my laptop are:
- Quicken (planning on Logmein)
- Internet (including Facebook flash games - can anyone tell me how well this works/doesn't work)
- Email (planning on web based)
I'm planning on Wifi only, since 95% of the time will use @ work & home. For other times, will use Hotspot on my phone.
Honestly, assuming that this can handle Facebook flash games, I just want to be able to sit on my comphy chair & use this tablet instead of sitting at the dining room table on my laptop. I keep thinking of things that I do on my laptop that the tablet can't do - and I just can't think of other problems.
I'm also planning on getting a bunch of education games for my kids (3 years & twin 2 years). They love playing on my mother's iPad, and I see lots of similar games for Android.
Oh - keep meaning to look this up - off the top of people's heads - assuming I use my same Gmail account, are programs I purchased for my phone OK on the Tablet, or do I need to re-purchase everything?
Finally, how's holding the device while sitting? I used to use a Tablet laptop (back in the pen days) and found out that you could only hold it for a brief time before your arm gave out.
Thanks for any help - especially on the Flash/Facebook games which is a make-or-break for me.
Honestly, assuming that this can handle Facebook flash games, I just want to be able to sit on my comphy chair & use this tablet instead of sitting at the dining room table on my laptop. I keep thinking of things that I do on my laptop that the tablet can't do - and I just can't think of other problems.
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Kongregrate flash games work great, but just loading up a web page like you would in a windows box will not give you very good results.
I'm also planning on getting a bunch of education games for my kids (3 years & twin 2 years). They love playing on my mother's iPad, and I see lots of similar games for Android.
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Haven't gone digging in this area as I haven't gotten to the making babies part of life yet. But games run great. The Tegra 2 really makes things fly and the GT plays anything I throw at it with little or no lag.
Oh - keep meaning to look this up - off the top of people's heads - assuming I use my same Gmail account, are programs I purchased for my phone OK on the Tablet, or do I need to re-purchase everything?
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Nope, soon as you sign into your google account you can hop into the market and re-download everything. No repurchasing here.
Finally, how's holding the device while sitting? I used to use a Tablet laptop (back in the pen days) and found out that you could only hold it for a brief time before your arm gave out.
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I also used an old school XP tablet/laptop. It was clunky, huge, heavy, unwieldy, and in short everything this device isn't. It's both thinner and lighter than an iPad 2 (not by much mind you, but just to give you an idea). So if you can hold your mother's iPad without issue, the GT won't be a problem either.
Hope this helps!
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Kongregrate flash games work great, but just loading up a web page like you would in a windows box will not give you very good results.
Haven't gone digging in this area as I haven't gotten to the making babies part of life yet. But games run great. The Tegra 2 really makes things fly and the GT plays anything I throw at it with little or no lag.
Nope, soon as you sign into your google account you can hop into the market and re-download everything. No repurchasing here.
I also used an old school XP tablet/laptop. It was clunky, huge, heavy, unwieldy, and in short everything this device isn't. It's both thinner and lighter than an iPad 2 (not by much mind you, but just to give you an idea). So if you can hold your mother's iPad without issue, the GT won't be a problem either.
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Much appreciated.
I don't play much on Facebook, but hoping that they are at least playable for the 10 mins a day that I do. I'm not so worried about other pages since I rarely have a problem on my Android phone.
Very glad to hear about not having to re-purchase things!
I thought about 1 more program I use on my laptop (although due to the kids not so often) - MTGO (Magic Gathering online). Wonder how well that would work through logmein. Might have to try remotely accessing my laptop from elsewhere to get a feel for it.
I'll have to borrow my mom's iPad for a day to try to get a feel for what it's like to hold it while sitting. I think that it probably going to be the other big thing. If it can do the programs & apps I need - is it more comphy then using a full blown laptop?
BTW - the thing I do most on my phone is read books. I *think* Kindle has a way to synch what page you're on.. shame most of my collection is outside of Kindle. Will have to look for programs that read other formats & can synch what page I'm on.
@polstein:
It's definitely easier to tote around and just lean back in a chair than with a laptop, no question. Also fewer worries about sitting somewhere with an outlet nearby, no concern about putting it down for a minute while you get up, etc. Minor things but they add up!
Like I said, the lack of a keyboard is the biggest concern. One option for this could be to use a BT keyboard, or purchase the USB adapter from Samsung. For monitoring things, reading, surfing, etc, it's great! I haven't used quicken for a number of years, so I dunno how much typing is required, but depending on the gui you might find yourself zooming in/out frequently, which could be annoying. Re books, I don't think there are other apps that sync. If your collection is in mobi format, or you're willing to convert, Kindle can sideload.
My opinion (after 1 day and some previous experience with an iPad): it's definitely not a full computer replacement. But I can definitely see going for a week or two just on the Tab, without opening my laptop. Especially if I bother teaching myself how to use one of the good android keyboards!