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when i send a text message it tells me message sent, so i close the messaging app. then when i recieve a message, most of the time a reply to the message sent i open the messaging app and it tells me message sent again. also people call me telling me they recieve the message i sent them multiple times. i have spb pocket plus, do i need to add the messaging app to the exception list on the close option? i know sometimes its a network error but most of the time its from my phone. so any help on that would be great. thanks
Add TMail.exe to the close app forbid list on Spb Pocket Plus.
And do a search next time and you'll find 10s of posts on subjects like this already.
Hi there.
I have the same problem and would like to know how to solve it.
I do not use Pocket Plus on my device although I did have it installed a while ago. I've always assumed this is a bug in Windows Mobile 2003SE. Is it not?
I've done a search on the forum here and was not able to find anything helpful. Maybe my search skills need help! If anyone can point me to any threads that provide solutions to this I'd really appreciate it.
- Peter
OK, I can't be bothered typing it all out, so just believe me.
If you've got a program that CLOSES apps when you click (X) instead of MINIMIZING them (as is the default action in WM2003SE), then if you close the mail/msg app after sending, it will send 2 messages. Spb Pocket Plus is the usual app people use to change minimize to close. Other programs do it too. Fill in the blanks yourself.
thanks elyl, i did a search but didnt find the answer. i know it sucks to reply to such FAQs. i'm more proficient with symbian series 60 phones and series 90, just switched over to windows mobile to experience the differences. thanks again.
every time i send a short text message, it deducts 48p off my balance instead of 12p.
POS!
whats wrong with it ?
are you using pocket plus or other programs which really close applications insted of the normal minimize ?
Same for me : Text messages are sent twice !!!
Doesn't really bother me as I don't have to pay for it anyway (thx a lot, boss ) but it is pretty annoying for the recipient
Using the default SMS-programm (Messaging) on my BA with WM2003 SE
There is a bug when sending txts that I found. Look at the characters and pages. For some reason if you use T9 and it auto punctuates more than once (sometimes just the once) it will shorten the txt message to half therefore sends 2 or more. It's stupid but just keep an eye on the counter and manually remove punctuation e.g, there's to theres and it will be fine... I only found this out after months of double and triple txt messaging charges.
Thx a lot for the feedbacl, although the problem/issue I'm facing is slightly different as I'm not using T9 and the message is not being split up.
It is exactly the same message that is being sent twice
princegary said:
There is a bug when sending txts that I found. Look at the characters and pages. For some reason if you use T9 and it auto punctuates more than once (sometimes just the once) it will shorten the txt message to half therefore sends 2 or more.
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That's no bug.
SMS are shortened whenever the phone switches to unicode (which is necessary for using some unconventional characters)
But the Qtek devices show clearly how many chars can be sent in one SMS and even how many SMS will be sent.
Simply watch the counter at the bottom before sending an SMS and avoid characters demanding unicode.
Sascha
okay. will do.
cheers.
rite...
Well im using the 02 300 free texts and mine gets sent 3-4 times. even thou i avoid using T9 and Unicode characters (annoys me) but i donno why, is there a solution to it. cheers :?
Re: rite...
dj_factor said:
Well im using the 02 300 free texts and mine gets sent 3-4 times. even thou i avoid using T9 and Unicode characters
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Does O2 deliver the same SMS 3-4 times to the recipient or do they "split" the message into 3-4 messages.
In the latter case, you are definitely using unicode characters.
In the first case you should contact your provider.
And don't forget: watch the counter before sending.
Sascha
Double txt messages
Hi,
I am getting the smae problem every message I send is getting sent twice from the XDAII.
Doesnt matter if the txt is <160 chars or multiple messages.
The receiving device receives the message.
Then sometimes (NOT ALL THE TIME) it will send a duplicate message.
Usually (but again not all the time) the duplicate is sent later when the XDA is used again, after turning it back on.
Any one any clues?
It does run PocketNav as a task switcher/killer and I am going to diable it to check this as a cause.
Thanks in advance
This is a bug from spb Pocket plus when closing the SMS application while message is still sending, try not to close the SMS app while message is still sending.
me too...me too....while using XDA II sending msg, receipient get 2 msgs...i m using spb pocket plus and some chinese translation software...which is the cause of the problem?.. :roll:
The cause is 'tmail.exe'. If you are using spb Pocket Plus you need to do the following:
1. Tab on Start, Settings
2. Select System to launch Spb Pocket Plus
3. Tab on the Features Options that will bring you to Close Button panel.
4. Tab on Exceptions that will show you a panel 'Listed programs will always be minimized when tap the X button'
5. Tab on the ADD button and a pop-up box will display. Then select tab on the Browse.
6. A panel will be displayed showing all the directories. Then tab on the '+' sign of the Windows Directory to expand it.
7. Scroll down till you find a program 'tmail.exe' and tab on it to select it.
8. Lastly, tab on the OK button and it will bring you back to the Close Button panel. In the box it will showed that you have selectet the 'tmail.exe'. Then tab on the OK button on the top right corner.
9. That's all. It should work. On a safe side do a Soft Reset.
You won't have mail sending twice and you will be prompted immediately when the is an incoming mail.
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:lol: Thankz a dozen WillyBilly...it is very detail!! Thankz again!!! :lol:
It helps.......
then4ag said:
:lol: Thankz a dozen WillyBilly...it is very detail!! Thankz again!!! :lol:
It helps.......
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Great.....good to hear that......
Also that problem without Spb Pocket Plus installed
Hi y'all. I have an IMate Jam PM10A (former T-Mobile MDA) and I'm having the same problems. My sms messages are delivered twice, the 1st immidiatly, the 2nd sometimes an hour later. I do not have SpB Pocket Plus Installed, here is what i do have installed:
# Xvid Codec
# Smart Movie Lonely Cat
# IRemote Majeres
# Windows Theme Switch Today
# Pocketmind Pocketmusic
# Virtual Display Nyditot
# Resco Explorerer 2003
# Wisbar Advance
# Laridan Pocketbible
# Todayinfo Lou Terailloune
# Calendarplus Mohairsofa
Could the Wisbar Advance be the problem=
V-Bar
I'm sending multiple sms as well
Im not using pocket plus but i do use the T9 autocomplete so will turn that off and see, think i do send small multiple sms as well, also i use V-Bar which closes applications so i have removed that and will see if anymore ppl complain about me spamming the multiple sms
Anyone got any idea if any of the following problems cause conflicts in a similar way to pocket plus
pocketxpdf
smartflash
genocide device status on today
pocketmind pocketmusic
david andres battii
art in code screen switch
vbar
bartek
Poket Plus ?? Multiple texts
Rudegar said:
are you using pocket plus or other programs which really close applications insted of the normal minimize ?
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Hi Rudegar,
You mentioned - POCKET PLUS to other user ...
Both my XDA IIi and my wife's XDA mini-s send same message multiple times. I will always receive the message immediately and then again when my wife 'activates' her phone in some way, and vice-versa.
We both use Pocket Plus - Is this the cause. I have been stripping away third party software for amateur developers but I reckoned Pocket Plus seemed 'safe'
Tony - [O2 ireland network]
pocket plus have an option which terminate (really close application rather then minimize them) when people press the X
this is as far as i know useless and a wish people comming from windows on pc like because they dont know that win ce automaticly close unused applications when it require the memory those applications is using
so one can safely turn off that "real" close of application unless one get serious slowdowns from using applications which eat alot of mem
otherwise excluding outlook from the "real" close option is a way to avoid it
or to not close outlook with the x before one gets the msg is sendt icon on the title bar of
Thank You
Thank you Rudegar,
I was fairly sure I had replied to your very helpful post when indeed I hadn't - So, Thanks again, your help pointed me in the right direction to sort my problem!
Hello friends, I'm writing you about a trouble in xplod's WM6.1 rom. (but I think all WM6.1 works like that in this thing).
SMS Threaded: an IM style chat but for "Text SMS" (like: FROM Tina: "Hello" - FROM You: "Hello to you" - FROM Tina: "How r u?" - FROM You: "fine thx"). Well, great...but...
I've backupped my old SMS (3600 SMS) and upgraded to WM6.1..all works fine.
So I've decided to restore my SMS's Backup...15min and all SMS must be in the Mobile Database.
I've opened Outlook in my new WM6.1 and after 30min of "some unknown work" the PPC is free to use...but....BUT? I've got just about 30 SMS in my list!! OMG!
After some minutes I've got understood that all SMS are "grouped" by "sender".
Nice thing but I need to disable that funcion: sometimes I like to read VERY OLD SMS but while they are grouped I cannot reach easylly OLDEST SMS becouse in the first screen I've got just RECENT SMS and a "link" called "Older"....click on "Older" displays some other SMS...another click displays another screen with other older SMS...in that way I need 2 years to reach bottom of the Database!!!
Someone can help me plz?
Mode SMS
Try the program in this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382548
Sam
So, i downloaded the official alltel rom from htc.com and there is no threading in this 6.1
anyone know how to enable threading and stopping the text sent message?
any alltel users help me out?
Here are the 2 registry keys you need to modify.
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\SMSInbox\
ThreadingDisabled. 1 to disable, 0 to enable.
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\
SMSNoSentMsg. 1 to disable. 0 to enable.
Hi all,
I've just got my HD2 this morning. I'm having a problem when trying to create an SMS by replying from the text messages tab.
This particular contact has around 500 messages and pressing 'reply' takes more than 20 seconds before even the onscreen keyboard to load for me to type the reply. I've tried other contacts with less messages, whilst it is quick, there is still a noticeable lag to load all of the previous messages.
Is anyone else having this problem?
Yes. The contacts/text messaging app seems to suffer from a lot of slowdown. I also have the feeling it's linked to the number of messages for each contact.
Saving a contact after editing can be slow as well.
I did a bit of a search...looks like this is a problem with the HTC messaging app in Manila 2.5 ..... sigh........ such a fundamental problem!
Too many people complain about SMS issues. SMS functionality should be one of the very first tests you do to a modern mobile device during Q.A.
At least its still good to know that I'll be able to speak with it.
Same here. Too slow..
Here the same problem. Can somebody make a fix for it please?
Delete all the SMS history with the contact who is taking long for the keyboard to load up.
The reason for this slowdown is that it is loading all your SMS messages with that contact, both sent and received. Hence it takes ages to load up.
1. Go to the SMS screen for your slow-loading contact, wait for it to load
2. Press 'Menu'
3. Press 'Delete Messages'
4. Press 'Menu'
5. Press 'Select All'
6. Press 'Done'
Where is the snapdragon?
man I need to get this Phone,but this seems to be the first real let down ,I use lots of SMS and to me deleting is not an option.
Must be found a work around.
HTC definately rushed this ROM.
The calendar bug, the spelling mistake in the connections settings, apparently the speed is slower than the test ROMs, and now this.
Well the only thing that lags with Touch HD on wm6.5 with Manila 2.5 is the HTC SMS.. That what made be believe I should upgrade my device to HD2. Now that I see that the device is also lagging with a dozen of SMSs... Thanks but I will not buy it unless a solution is found. I have more than 2500 work SMS all business related and I CANT FIND A REASON TO DELETE IT.
DIDNT THEY TRY THE DEVICE BEFORE SELLING IT??
EVEN A NOKIA 3310 CAN STORE 500+ SMS !!
Yes a nokia can store that many text, but they arent in a chat type session, thats why it takes so long because it loads all of them in one hit.
loomx said:
Yes a nokia can store that many text, but they arent in a chat type session, thats why it takes so long because it loads all of them in one hit.
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Even with Thread mode off and normal SMS display, it is very slow. Try restoring 200 SMS, it will takes 10 mins. Re-access your SMS menu, you will still lag as hell.
Cannot forgive them for making such a mistake.
was going to get it today
My non HTC device loaded with + 250 messages opens the SMS app.in 2 sec. Replying and bringing up the keyboard is almost from instantaneous to 1 sec,but I need to get a WM phone.
Just one question though:
Will this lag still happen if you Disable the HTC Sence UI and went with the WM 6.5 interface?
I've found a workaround for now..
Use the HTC Messaging app in traditional mode. From there, you could reply SMSes using the non-threaded mode. Once it loads, it's pretty quick to open again.
Still..the major lag is still there when you open a contact with many text messages....this is very dissapointing and could even be a dealbreaker for a few people.
Even my TD1 with Manila 2.1 doesn't have this problem.
hagba said:
Will this lag still happen if you Disable the HTC Sence UI and went with the WM 6.5 interface?
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NO! the problem it's just in senseUI
In the meantime, let your providers and htc know (mail). htc need to release a proper fix for this.
Manila 2.1 on my TP2 did`t have this problem at all.
To be honest .... 2.5 Manila messaging is crap!
I know this isn't an ideal solution, but it'll do for me (for now), and I'm sure some others will be happy enough with it as a temporary fix.
Use Microsoft MyPhone to get all your texts uploaded and then archive them using the web interface. You can then delete as many as you like off the phone and still be happy that you've got a backup online.
Not a solution, but a reasonable workround for now.
Edit: I can confirm that this works. I went to the MyPhone web interface and archived all my text messages. Then I synched from my mobile and it deleted all the local texts that I had archived (in this case, all of them). I can now edit and select contacts with only a slight lag. It's still a crap amount of lag for such a fast phone, but it's a lot better.
They should do like on the iPhone: when you chat with a contact, you get the last 10-15 messages of the thread. If you want to read older messages you press a button on top of the thread that will then show all the others.
+1!! I do think too that it's the obvious solution!!!! Why the hello do HTC's SMS apps display the full thread of SMS's on their app, it's pretty much useless, and causes lags!!! The last 10 sms's like in Outlokk or on the iPhone is enough!
I don't know what the hell HTC's devs are thinking sometimes....
Dear all
bought my HD2 sim-free and have been using it for 1-2 days now.
it is manila 2.5.19211619.0 & rom 1.48.405.2 (71294)WWE
while we wait for HTC to allow us to use our GBP500 handsets to send SMS reliably, I thought I'd compile a list of other problems with the new HTC messaging interface - perhaps if anybody from HTC is reading, they could use it as a sort of wish-list. Feel free to add your own woes.
also, if anybody knows any fixes for the behaviour i am reporting here - please let me know!!
1. It sometimes doesn't send SMS (well-known issue, sure - texting myself seems to do the trick so far but hardly ideal to have to check outbox every half hour)
2. It cannot mark received/read SMS as unread (if i'm wrong here, please let me know)
3. it is difficult to select a whole bunch of messages - you ought to be able to hold down and drag to select, say, adjacent 5 messages in the "all msgs" view, in order to then action them (eg. retry send ! )
4. in all messages view, the side-scrolling bar does not enlarge itself after a short tap, unlike in eg. file explorer.
5. when you are composing a new SMS, as you start typing letters of somebody's name, some of the contact suggestions are associated with that person's mobile number (as expected) whereas other contacts are suggested with their *email address* (even when you have the mobile number for that contact) so that it tries to send the SMS to that person's email address. Not very clever. if anybody knows how to fix this please let me know.
6. if you use PIM backup to restore eg. 500 SMS, you may mysteriously find the following day that many of them have disappeared. spooky.
7. it (HTC messaging) is so arrogant that it provides no easy way for the user to revert to WM SMS program. not very "make it mine" is it HTC?
8. (thanks to DavrosMackenzie below for reminding me) what a WEIRD bug - when you attempt to put a ! or ? at the end of your cursor when composing SMS, the cursor reverts to a random point in the message and your punctuation mark is in the middle of some random word.
UPDATE: I have sent the above 8 items to HTC support via email on their website.
9. there is no "SMS sent" notification as there was in eg. WM5.0
Largely speaking I only see 7) as the issue. If the Windows messaging app were easily available then you'd simply be able to choose between a flawless functional app versus stylish but primitive.
However personally I still haven't found a way to revert the the Windows messenger app, all the methods I've found here on the forum fail to work fully. So then I guess I'm stuck too with the other points mentioned. It's all ostly minor to me except 1) of course. If I need to any more complicated message organizing I just do it through the MS My Phone web interface and sync.
Also 4) is a feature not a bug The expanding scroll bars are only for the default native controls which need to be dragged themselves, hence the expanding button for easy finger usage. The HTC scrollbar doesn't need that as the whole screen reacts to a sliding finger for scrolling the view.
The inconsistency is a bit odd I suppose but that's what happens when your on an evolved platform rather than a new one.
thanks for the LIST, have you send it to HTC yet?
I have been bugging them about the SMS stuck in outbox issue every 2nd day ...
you also missed out the SLOW loading SMS while there are more than 20 sms-s in coversation view.~
hmm...for me its the no. 4 which is a bit irritating but i can live with it...since in my case it shows both the number as well the email for the same name...
btw...i know this works for some people and for some dont, but messaging problem seems to go away if you select
1. GSM in messaging
2. put the local mesaging centre number...
havent faceda any sms problem till now...
Instead of using pim backup you should use the sync application microsoft my phone....
Lag when opening messages, we all know about that though.
This one i've only seen one other person mention and thats when i come to put a ! or ? at the end the cursor jumps to some random point in the message, basically means i have proof read every damn message and its starting to really annoy me.
I've an un-branded Vodaphone device thanks to mobiles.co.uk and have upgraded the ROM from the 1.43 through to 1.61 and this nagging little bug has been present in all.
The predictive text has become alot better, to the point now where i can write txts much quicker but the other problems make txtsing a nightmare compared to the iPhone.
I was so pissed off with the iPhone by the end of my run with it but it could text like a dream compared with this, i miss my apps sure but if the texting would work on the HD2 i wouldn't be considering moving back!
Not giving up yet though, will wait for a few more ROMS to come out and maybe HardSPL.
uccoffee said:
thanks for the LIST, have you send it to HTC yet?
I have been bugging them about the SMS stuck in outbox issue every 2nd day ...
you also missed out the SLOW loading SMS while there are more than 20 sms-s in coversation view.~
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the slow sms loading buggs me. i have alot of text messages with my girl and It's annoying to everytime wait a minnit or so. also if you push the soft key menu and wait a second It's loads alot faster.
you may aspect from htc with a phone that costs a fortune it would be near perfect. but this one is nearly done. and dont come with the excuse that no phone is good out of the box, i know that but after al the tweaking i have done to this phone im getting the hang of it. but there are more bugs that anoy me.
1 slow downs in the sense interface.
2. the jittering of the keyboard.
3. the ghost typed key issue
4. and all the minor things what are to many to name.
well htc thank-you for this wonderfull phone. now make it mine.....
btw, could someone tell me where i can find the outbox for the sms utility?
Prom1se said:
the slow sms loading buggs me. i have alot of text messages with my girl and It's annoying to everytime wait a minnit or so. also if you push the soft key menu and wait a second It's loads alot faster.
you may aspect from htc with a phone that costs a fortune it would be near perfect. but this one is nearly done. and dont come with the excuse that no phone is good out of the box, i know that but after al the tweaking i have done to this phone im getting the hang of it. but there are more bugs that anoy me.
1 slow downs in the sense interface.
2. the jittering of the keyboard.
3. the ghost typed key issue
4. and all the minor things what are to many to name.
well htc thank-you for this wonderfull phone. now make it mine.....
btw, could someone tell me where i can find the outbox for the sms utility?
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To view your outbox, you need to have SMS in traditional mode.
Go to: All mesages > Menu > Settings > Traditional Mode.
Has anyone found a fix for this fundamental function of any phone. And we all know this is not a problem with WM6.5 as alot of us have been using 6.5 for some time (myself on my polaris, using Kostas ROM), so therefore HTC really F#@K this up.
I have another one, the sms notification sound almost never gets activated... I am on 1.43 O2.
Most of the time I have to click "compose new text" when in converstional mode at least 10 times before it actually lets my type! It doesn't matter how many messages I have with that contact so isn't a lag thing!
blackheart2925 said:
hmm...for me its the no. 4 which is a bit irritating but i can live with it...since in my case it shows both the number as well the email for the same name...
btw...i know this works for some people and for some dont, but messaging problem seems to go away if you select
1. GSM in messaging
2. put the local mesaging centre number...
havent faceda any sms problem till now...
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I got GSM in messaging, and +xxx in the messaging number.
But I still get SMS stuck in outbox every couple of days ...
HTC Messaging is not working with MMS to email. The pictures doesn't have a last name (extension), and will not be reconiced as an .jpg, and therefore not show in correctly.
Larsen
When I create an SMS and enter the first few letters of a contacts name, all available phone numbers for that person are listed. However, the icons indicating the type of contact number (work, mobile, home, etc.) are incorrect. All are displayed as mobile so I do not know which is the actual mobile number and which are the others. Is this the same for everyone else? I've reflashed to 1.48 and installed the SMS patch from HTC.