[Q] Nexus S or MT4g? (upgrade or wait) - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i know it hasnt been released yet, but c'mon, the nexus s is everywhere. supposing it is real, how do you think it stacks up against this phone?
(i know there are other threads on this, but none of them directly answered or shed light on my question.)
I've been due for an update since julyy, and i dont want phone envy before one month.
so, how do they stackk upp?

i agree with you rockstarar, i am having the same problem
i believe that its hard to actually determine if one will be better than the other since the specs of the Nexus S arent clear to the public yet, then again there is the rumored samsung flagship to come out in Feb. with specs similar to the nexus s

Build quality in Samsung devices hasn't been up to par with my expectations or requirements... :-(
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IF the Nexus S is even real...which is still a big IF...read around on the rumors.
If it's made by Samsung then you may have some nice internals (e.g. processor capabilities if unleashed and OC'd), but the price you'll pay will be build quality and possibly other features.
If it's anything close to the Vibrant in design and build quality, then, IMHO, it will be garbage. I had the Vibrant for a few weeks, rooted and OC'd it, and while it flew and the screen was nice, I traded it for the MT4G and have absolutely ZERO regrets. I know you're wanting to compare it to a, currently, non-existent, rumored phone, but if it's manufactured by Samsung then it'll have a tough time comparing to the MT4G.
HTC build quality is just way superior, especially on the MT4G, and the 2nd gen Snapdragon rocks. With this puppy rooted and OC'd it's hitting 3k+ Quadrant scores. Let's assume the Nexus S would possibly have Samsung's Hummingbird like the Vibrant...I could only get about 2300+ on Quadrant OC'd.
The MT4G has both build quality and performance backing it up. It would take a lot for me to consider swapping for anything else in the near future.

The nexus s looks like a good phone but its just a rumor as of right now. No specific specs/release date.
Not to mention its made by samsung.... Just for that reason alone I wont consider it...
I'm completely happy with my mt4g.
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Samsung Epic 4g - Considering it?

I bought my evo on July 31st, This means I get til August 29th to decide to return it or not.
I am considering the Epic 4g but with so much Dev love for the Evo. I am having a hard time really committing to the switch.
I am currently running cyanogen nightly and its pretty damn awesome, getting great performance both synthetic (quadrant 1500+, fps2d 53 frames, 31 neocore, 38 linpack)
Is anyone having the same dilemma? I like the allure of the better processor/graphics on the Epic. I dont care about the physical keyboard. The Amoled screen is somewhat tempting except for the pentile matrix display and the fact that its smaller.
The real stopping points for me are:
1. will it receive anywhere near the support from devs as the evo?
2. The performance both real life and synthetic that I get on the Evo seems to outpace any stock version the Epic could see.
3. Gaming is probably better but in reality android platform doesnt have many games and I have an ipad to play those anyway.
Just trying to gauge current Evo owners thoughts on this.
Not a chance.
I like my 4.3" screen and can input faster with Swype than I ever could with a physical keyboard.
Feels like a downgrade to me. I will replace my Evo as soon as I have no question as to whether it would actually be an upgrade.
Na Epics not in my future.
I'll probably be picking one up. The hacking community should be just fine its being released on just about every carrier world wide and once the keyboard parts ate isolated it will be trivial to support.
I was interested in it originally for the Super AMOLED and Hummingbird, but the phone itself is just ugly as hell, and I will probably never use the keyboard.
I wish it didn't have a keyboard.
But it has a few neat features that appeals me:
Screen Size: The 4" screen seems like the "perfect" size for me.
CPU: Hummingbird process supposedly the fastest thing out right now.
Battery: Early reviews I've read indicates its last 50-100% longer than the EVO.
Two things about the EVO I prefer is:
No physical keyboard - therefore 1mm smaller.
Better front facing camera.
Better DEV support.
I'll probably stick with the EVO since it's a bit of a hassle to sell it and buy the Epic. Tempting though. Playing the sit and watch for now.
I love my Evo but if I was given the option to get an Epic instead, I would have a very hard time staying true to the Evo.
Either way, I am happy with the Evo for 1-2 years until the next big Android phone drops.
Mmmmm I can return my evo and get the epic so def. Makes me tempted.
If the Dev support was going to be near what it is for the evo and it had no kb I'd probably 100% get it
Nope. IMO nobody has made a better Android phone than HTC yet. Android development started with HTC phones. Plus, I hate physical keyboards.
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Hands down the Evo is better....... regardless of the Hummingbird Vs Snapdragon.
Stuck on Stock HTC 2.2
I have an evo and it's given me so many issues that I think I'll probably switch to the Epic. The only thing holding me back is that Sprint gave me the Evo for only $100 and I'm not sure if I want to spend an extra $150 for the Epic.
OP I've been going through the same decision process. I got my Evo on July 25th, and of course they release the date for the Epic. I've reserved one but I'm not sure if I'll return my Evo for the Epic. The battery issues, FPS cap and lack 802.11n on the stock Evo w/ Froyo (2.2) is what makes the Epic so much more intriguing. Also it has that Super AMOLED display and Hummingbird CPU. Its a tough choice.
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and lack 802.11n on the stock Evo w/ Froyo (2.2)
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I thought one of the first updates after release turned on n support? (still waiting for my phone, so can't test myself)
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I thought one of the first updates after release turned on n support? (still waiting for my phone, so can't test myself)
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That was the rumor, but it would seem the only way to enable it requires the user to change some code on the phone itself.
the better processor is the only thing that might tempt me... but i still have my upgrade and think i'll wait till gingerbread is closer and something miles above either is out
A big question is whether it will have GPS, or at least a working GPS.
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I bought my evo on July 31st, This means I get til August 29th to decide to return it or not.
I am considering the Epic 4g but with so much Dev love for the Evo. I am having a hard time really committing to the switch.
I am currently running cyanogen nightly and its pretty damn awesome, getting great performance both synthetic (quadrant 1500+, fps2d 53 frames, 31 neocore, 38 linpack)
Is anyone having the same dilemma? I like the allure of the better processor/graphics on the Epic. I dont care about the physical keyboard. The Amoled screen is somewhat tempting except for the pentile matrix display and the fact that its smaller.
The real stopping points for me are:
1. will it receive anywhere near the support from devs as the evo?
2. The performance both real life and synthetic that I get on the Evo seems to outpace any stock version the Epic could see.
3. Gaming is probably better but in reality android platform doesnt have many games and I have an ipad to play those anyway.
Just trying to gauge current Evo owners thoughts on this.
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The grass is always greener. You know what you have, you don't know what you'd get.
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The grass is always greener. You know what you have, you don't know what you'd get.
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I have to agree with this statment . In relative terms the EVO is still fairly new to the market . Granted its been out for two months but overall that isnt very long (But I have been known to get dates screwed up LOL) . This phone looks ok but the keyboard is not something I would jump all over . Also battery life for this thing would be another thing I would be cautious of . Yeah the evo isnt record breaking for its battery life (this seems to vary from one owner to the next) but whos to say the epic isnt gonna be any better off . Just from my own standpoint I know how I am with phones with moving parts I tend to break them and people look at me going "how the hell did you do that?" LOL I honestly dont know . So I usually stick with the single piece phones . My advice would be to let others jump on that boat first and before long you will hear of what downfalls it might have THEN jump if you still want to at that point . Its nice to have the coolest baddest thing out at the moment but sometimes if it doesnt work worth a damn it isnt worth it .
Before the Evo came out we were all salivating at the raw specs and bla bla and when it was released and we all became privy to its faults we all calmed down. I'm in the not pleased camp on the Evo, just too many issues to deal with.
My take is to reserve judgement on the Epic until it is out for us all to play with and handle before dissing or going all out with praises on it. On paper, it blows out everything and their grandma but I've been had before.
Every new phone is going to blow everything out of the water on paper. That's the whole point of leaks and media hype.
If you're always trying to wait for the "next best device" then you are NEVER going to get a new phone because trust me: Once the Epic is released, there will be a new phone leaked that "blows all the Galaxy S phones out of the water". Then once that phone is released, we'll repeat the process.
There is never going to be a perfect device and the Epic/Galaxy S phones are no exception. They have some better specs but what are the trade-offs? By being early adopters (most of us) for the EVO, we took the risk of not knowing the faults and we are either accepting those faults and enjoying the device for what it is, or we're jumping on the "next best thing". Personally, I'm sticking with the EVO. For all its faults, there has never been anything that has frustrated me enough to say it's a crappy phone or want to return it. The EVO is the best device I've ever owned hands down, no competition. The Epic looks really nice but I can do without.
There are doubts that I have about the Epic even before it's released that are making my decision to keep my EVO even easier.
1. Samsung has yet to prove to me that they can be trusted with support and updates. Yeah, we keep hearing the excuse that its on every network but as I said, I haven't seen any proof yet so once Sammy can PROVE to me that they've changed their non-supportive ways, I won't be investing any money on a phone from them.
2. Community/Developer support. With 3 out of 5 Galaxy S phones released (Vibrant, Captivate, EU Galaxy S), I still haven't seen the same amount of developer support for the Galaxy S line as I have for the Evo itself. Customization is important to me. Also, when I have a problem, I like to know that there is a large community of people I can ask that increase my chances of getting it solved asap. Again, this is something that only time will be able to tell.
TLDR: Despite its minor faults, I'm more satisfied with my Evo than I have ever been with any phone I've ever owned. The Epic looks like a GREAT device, but there is nothing about it that makes it good enough to switch for me. If the Galaxy S line goes well, then I may buy the next generation of Galaxy S phone, but as for right now, no.
That won't stop me from geeking out over any of my friends who get one though! SuperAMOLED is beautiful!

Worthy to get over Samsung Galaxy S?

Hey guys!I'm planning on getting the Samsung Galaxy S soon.But now I'm actually stuck between this and the Samsung Galaxy S.I'm aware that the processor aka the 'Hummingbird 1Ghz processor' on the SGS is faster than the Snapdragon processor on the Nexus One.I'm not really going for the looks but I've realised that the SGS has a lagging problem and I believe that rooting and using the one click lag fix can fix that but I'm not planning to root my phone and I'm going for the SGS mostly because of the large internal memory that can keep lots of apps and the bigger and clearer screen!While the Nexus one only has 190mb available and I believe the Nexus one has some hardware problems like dust under the screen and something wrong with the touch screen.So please help me with this!And lastly,I may also choose Nexus One because its gonna receive all the updates in the earliest time and that's a big advantage!So,please help me with this!
My wife has a bone stock vibrant. It has very little issues with lagging, at least not more than a non-modified nexus one. If it were a lag fest, she would've asked me to get her something else. There are areas the nexus doesn't lag that vibrant does, but many more areas the vibrant runs through that the nexus stutters.
Stock for stock; vibrant. The nexus does get more overall support, but you've already said that's not what you're in to. Heck, even mod to mod I'd keep my vibrant. Lag free and fast.
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Hey guys!I'm planning on getting the Samsung Galaxy S soon.But now I'm actually stuck between this and the Samsung Galaxy S.I'm aware that the processor aka the 'Hummingbird 1Ghz processor' on the SGS is faster than the Snapdragon processor on the Nexus One.I'm not really going for the looks but I've realised that the SGS has a lagging problem and I believe that rooting and using the one click lag fix can fix that but I'm not planning to root my phone and I'm going for the SGS mostly because of the large internal memory that can keep lots of apps and the bigger and clearer screen!While the Nexus one only has 190mb available and I believe the Nexus one has some hardware problems like dust under the screen and something wrong with the touch screen.So please help me with this!And lastly,I may also choose Nexus One because its gonna receive all the updates in the earliest time and that's a big advantage!So,please help me with this!
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You could get the Nexus S and get the best of both worlds. It's a Galaxy S (upgraded) with 2.3 Android right now. And since it's another Google phone like the Nexus One it will get OTA updates faster then other phones.
Its actually the Samsung Galaxy S I9000 I'm taking aboutAnd the place I'm buying from,Nexus S isn't available yet.So I'm now only stuck with those 2 choices!
I've played around with a friend's Galaxy S ... to me it's terrible. I can't get over the BACK button being where it is, or the slowness due to it being packed with Samsung and BELL junk, or just the fact that it's plastic... terrible terrible phone.
So its just the placement of buttons or did your friend really mention that its a bad phone?
The funny thing is, is that I actually own a Vibrant and hardware wise I have to say it's an amazing phone. It's definitely better in hardware than an N1. What I love about the N1 if definitely software support and that it has a camera flash/flash light. It depends on if your going for hardware vs software or if you really need an LED flash. As far as lag goes, I used to experience lag till I upgraded to the new unofficial Froyo build released yesterday (12.20.10) by T-Mobile/Samsung. The phone is very fast/responsive now. Maybe not faster than an N1 out of the box, but you can modify it to be just as fast if not faster. My phone is unrooted running 2.2 JK5. Although I might trade this guy in about an hour who has an N1. The only reason/reasons I want to trade is because I love having flash on my phone and all the Dev support from google and the N1 community, although this is my first time ever being in the N1 forums. I hope if I do decide to switch today or tomorrow that I am welcomed by you guys.
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If your phone is ' un-rooted', how are you running a custom rom? (2.2 jk5 is a custom rom, I'm guessing). I know I had to root my Evo in order to flash roms. (as opposed to 'unroot', which is how it comes out of the box).
I would suggest nexus 1, even just based solely on hardware and build quality. Samsung phones have this terrible cheap plasticy build/feel. HTC phones have a much better feel and build quality, in my opinion. Also, it sure sucks to have a camera and not be able to use it if it's the least bit dark.
Just my .02¢
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If your phone is ' un-rooted', how are you running a custom rom? (2.2 jk5 is a custom rom, I'm guessing). I know I had to root my Evo in order to flash roms. (as opposed to 'unroot', which is how it comes out of the box).
I would suggest nexus 1, even just based solely on hardware and build quality. Samsung phones have this terrible cheap plasticy build/feel. HTC phones have a much better feel and build quality, in my opinion. Also, it sure sucks to have a camera and not be able to use it if it's the least bit dark.
Just my .02¢
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I definitely value your opinion. The Vibrant was able to upgrade to the unofficial build because its similar to an ota, but you just have to manually push it to the phone. You can check out the Vibrant forums for further explanation. If anyone is wondering, guess who has an N1? Lol. I traded the Vibrant just now and I must say I'm impressed. It does feel solid since its actually made out of metals in opposed to the Vibrant's plastic body. Only thing I miss so far is the Super Amoled display and lightness (weighs less of course since its mostly plastic) of the Vibrant.
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unless you're heavy into games and multimedia it really won't make a difference. with the nexus 1 you get that fast google support. And it's a great phone.
If you are into games and videos hands down vibrant. Especially now newer graphics intensive games are coming out.
I own a vibrant with nero 3 voodoo on it. it's ridiculously fast and gps woes are a thing of the past. The support is there, just not directly from sammy. So there u go.
i LOVE my galaxy S and would never trade it...go for it

NS still holding it's own

I enjoyed reading this:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/30/coming-nexus-s/
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That's kind of how I feel as well after "upgrading" from an Epic 4g... I really wish something out there seemed better than the nexus, a 5 month old phone, release 5 months late on sprint, when in reality it's a year old hardware that launched on the Galaxy S last May...
I really sincerely agree with the blog and wish that a decent phone has come out since then, but all this bull**** with modified android, flaky hardware, and poor support really has me turned off from every phone except for the Nexus series.... When my contract with Sprint is up I'm likely going to be moving to the carrier with the newest Nexus, not with the best 4g coverage, fastest speeds, or newest phone.... but the one with the most reliable.
I just noticed that was posted by Chris Ziegler. I'd imagine that's the same one from Engadget, in which I find it to be very interesting that someone with so much exposure to new technology feels that way.
I agree with the article it's just makes more sense to release a product that works instead of a product that has everything but doesn't work...
This was my first smartphone. Yes, I could've waited a month and got another, and in terms of theoretical performance, better.
But I can't say I regret myself one bit, it's truly an amazing phone and all complaints I had in the beginning has been solved by the amazing devs here on XDA
I'll probably keel this phone for a long while!
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Thanks for the link, phillevy. This article perfectly describes the current situation on the android handset market.
Before I chose the Nexus S, I had ordered 2 HTC Desire S which I sent back because of their crappy build quality (Google brings up lots of threads about this topic). I certainly prefer the looks of the Desire S over the Nexus S, but if you buy a high-end android smartphone you also expect high end build quality. If you buy a cheap (but still very good) ZTE Blade, you can live with wobbly switches and some other flaws in build quality.
Before choosing the Nexus S, I also considered the Galaxy S2. But Samsung's lame update policy and a barely noticeable added value of the dual core processor (besides some games) made me chose the Nexus S which brought up an update notification to 2.3.4 instantly after connecting to my WLAN router.
Bottomline: I'm very satisfied with my unbranded, factory-simlock-free Nexus S. There are certainly some handsets out there which outperform the Nexus S in terms of some features, but not if you have a look at the whole package.
it just feels good knowing i'm not getting crazy, cause i moved from my old htc desire hd for the same reason. Nexus S is not the best in all functionality, but makes everything pretty much well.
DHD makes HD videos and has 8mp cam, but it can focus with that, i can only take photos from static things.
DHD has a huge screen, but somehow its lcd screen is pretty lame, with washed colors (i have a sclcd nexus, but it get a way way better screen).
DHD has dolby-s and srs, but that speaker is awful, you can make it better with several tweaks, but...
to make a long story short, despite all devices with amazing specs arriving out there, i can't see a single one that lets me a little excited... i guess i'm stuck with nexus series!
Yep I agree totally coming from a higher spec G2x. In the end the specs are important but they are not everything. Especially if the experience is degraded by bugs (G2x) or skins (anything Moto). So you get a high spec phone and keep flashing nightly ROMs until you get one that works perfectly. That's quite a waiting game to play, especially if you can just get a Nexus that works perfectly out of the box . I view custom ROMs as something that can *add* to the experience and improve the phone in many ways, but they shouldn't be *necessary* to have a working bug-free, lag-free phone. Nexus FTW.
The Nexus series is the closest you can get to "future-proof" in the smartphone world. That is what made me upgrade from the Epic. Knowing that I will get pretty much every Android update in the foreseeable future (barring any new major hardware requirements implemented by Google...which I don't see happening anytime soon).
Its nice being free from the confines of Touchwiz or MotoBlur. My Nexy is truly MY phone. I can do whatever I want with it. Its a true Android experience.
Having the latest software and the peace of mind that I won't be left in the dust is better than having slightly better hardware in my opinion. The Nexus S 4G can still hold its own. The Hummingbird is still a very high end chip.
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Yep I agree totally coming from a higher spec G2x. In the end the specs are important but they are not everything. Especially if the experience is degraded by bugs (G2x) or skins (anything Moto). So you get a high spec phone and keep flashing nightly ROMs until you get one that works perfectly. That's quite a waiting game to play, especially if you can just get a Nexus that works perfectly out of the box . I view custom ROMs as something that can *add* to the experience and improve the phone in many ways, but they shouldn't be *necessary* to have a working bug-free, lag-free phone. Nexus FTW.
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I just came over from the G2x as well. I went through 3 of 'em, and thought my 3rd was a winner, but that one went all wonky on me too. Supposedly gonna get an update to GB and to fix the "issues" that plague it, but I'm not convinced that a software patch and GB update is gonna fix what's wrong with the G2x.
To be honest, the NS is just a better phone for how I use a phone and I probably should have gotten it in the first place.
Yup, great phone, but needs hardware acceleration asap. Browsing experience, at least compared to my old phone HTC Desire, is hilarious. It lags at rendering flash content or big pictures and scrolling through them is not smooth at all. Another thing that is bugging me is that from the 512mb RAM, 200 is used for the GPU alone, so we're left with 300mb for the system and apps, which is very low. I often find myself left with 30-50mb free RAM and when I open some demanding apps (games for example), it lags until android kills some processes by itself, lags horridly. So I finally got to the point where I need the advanced task killer app.
I am actually surprised that people coming from the Desire HD or Inspire didn't mention anything about this :|
I was on my 4th G2x and I'm done with that phone. Reboots, freezing, can't hold a data connection or Wi-Fi. I was gonna go with a myTouch 4G but decided to go back to the Nexus S. Always loved it and it does me fine.
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I was on my 4th G2x and I'm done with that phone. Reboots, freezing, can't hold a data connection or Wi-Fi. I was gonna go with a myTouch 4G but decided to go back to the Nexus S. Always loved it and it does me fine.
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Yup, glad to see there are quite a few of us that left the G2x for the NS. That phone was nothing but a headache for me (reboots and shutdowns on stock systems with no additional apps installed). I went through 2 of them and ran out of patience (plus I was on day 29 out of 30 of my remorse period so I needed to make a decision!).
I hope Google doesn't go with LG for their Nexus 3. LG has left a very bitter taste in my mouth.
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I hope Google doesn't go with LG for their Nexus 3. LG has left a very bitter taste in my mouth.
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That's what she said!
In all seriousness, I hope not either. The only thing I've ever purchased from LG that was worth a damn has been a washer and dryer.
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I am actually surprised that people coming from the Desire HD or Inspire didn't mention anything about this :|
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you are right, browser experience with dhd is really better, but to be honest, i was so pissed with update delay and annoying bugs that i was in cm7 for daily use!
I have come over from the G2X as well. On my second, I would get data drops like crazy.
But, I have not had a single drop since getting my Nexus S. I love this phone, and Ill probably keep until until the next Nexus phone releases
I upgraded from the Nexus S to the G2x four days before it was released. I used the G2x as my only phone for a bit over a month. Ended up selling it and coming back to the Nexus S. I did not experience any of the reboots, connection problems, or severe screen bleed that others are reporting. I simply prefer the Nexus S. That's means a lot coming from me...I'm the kind of person that upgrades phones around three times a year so I can always have the latest and greatest. I came back for four main reasons.
1) Overall smoother experience both hardware and software wise. Software felt smoother, touchscreen more responsive, and I prefer the feel of the haptic feedback.
2) Updates from Google rather than TMo. No-brainer.
3) Dramatically better battery life. No comparison at all, Nexus S blows away G2x. The NS is the only Android phone I've owned that I didn't need to carry a spare battery around for.
4) Form factor....this was the biggest reason. I'm on my phone for many hours per day. Even after a month I still disliked the feel of the G2x. I just didn't like holding it. It feels like a brick. Coming back to the NS was like a breath of fresh air, even with it's clearly inferior specs and pixelated pentile matrix. People complain of a cheap build quality, but I actually really like it. Sure it's plastic but it doesn't feel flimsy. And it's a pleasure to use. Even the way it flips around when picking it up from the base, the positioning of the power button, the curved screen. I just really like the phone. Keep your 1080p recording, HDMI out, and "Tegra Zone" (to name a few, list goes on and on). I'll keep my Nexus S.
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As G2x owners are now experiencing. The phone should have had tasty gingerbread from day 1, but didn't. T-Mo said the wait for GB wouldn't be long, but it's already been 6 or 7 weeks. Now T-Mo says "by summer", whatever that means. In theory that means by June 21.
I do miss the idea of the raw power of the G2x, but I don't miss the G2x. Perhaps the next nexus device will figure out how to utilize a multi-core processor. If so, I'll leave the NS for it.

Anyone thinking about a Samsung model?

Anyone thinking about updating to a Samsung model? The larger screen and faster processing is nice. Lots of speed, quick downloads and community support.
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Anyone thinking about updating to a Samsung model? The larger screen and faster processing is nice. Lots of speed, quick downloads and community support.
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I agree with that but they are mostly made of plastic. I still prefer HTC phones because of the aluminum unibody build and sleek design.
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Anyone thinking about updating to a Samsung model? The larger screen and faster processing is nice. Lots of speed, quick downloads and community support.
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I own two Captivates and a Nexus One. I would not recommend switching to Samsung. I have been so dissatisfied with my Captivate that I am holding out on my upgrade and passing up the SGS2 and Skyrocket in hopes that HTC will deliver something of decent quality on ATT. I've even contemplated switching my main phone back to the Nexus One until something better arrives.
The fact that I'm still stuck on Froyo is absolutely ridiculous. If the Captivate was a low grade phone that would be one story. But the Galaxy S line was a premier lineup when it was released. If you want to feel cheated by a company, join up with Samsung.
Yes there are custom ROMs but without the release of source code they all have problems and bugs. I ran GB through Apex for a long time but eventually got tired of the phone dialer apk crashing every day. Also, some people can't use custom ROMs due to work and Android development is important to them.
I'll admit there are things I like about my Cappy: Super AMOLED screen, screen size, overall smooth performance, plenty of dev work on Samsung phones. But the lack of Android support by Samsung, the poor GPS performance with no fix, and the random shut down problems left a very bad taste in my mouth.
Not to mention, the nice feel of a sturdy metal HTC phone is miles beyond the cheap plastic feel of a Samsung phone. Just trying to give my 2 cents. I'd be glad to share any of my experiences in as much of a non biased way as I can.
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I agree with that but they are mostly made of plastic. I still prefer HTC phones because of the aluminum unibody build and sleek design.
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i have had great luck with the tmo sgs2. it's build quality, though plastic, it quite good.
imho
Yeah, I'm waiting for a good HTC phone to come out to replace my N1. I can't stand the plasticy feel of the SGII or the Galaxy Nexus.
Hopefully, we'll see something good from HTC during CES next week. I've heard rumors of a quad-core HTC phone. Let's hope so.
I had the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE from Rogers and the phone felt so plasticky. There's nothing appealing about Samsung devices. Their RF and call quality are poor. I ended up getting the HTC Amaze and I have no regrets. The build quality on the Amaze trumps any Samsung. Call quality & RF is much better. I'm hoping HTC will announce the rumored HTC Edge quad-core next week. It's too bad Google switched to Samsung to make their devices. I'm not impressed with the build quality of the Galaxy Nexus. It feels plasticky. I prefer the solid feel of a device even if it weighs more.
I will at least concede that the plastic was sturdier than I thought. I've had my Captivate since July 2010 and it has survived some big falls and hits. However, the lack of support from Samsung is just too much for me to overcome.
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Hopefully, we'll see something good from HTC during CES next week. I've heard rumors of a quad-core HTC phone. Let's hope so.
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I've seen some rumors that would point to this as well but I have a feeling it will still be a plastic styled phone. It wasn't until late December when HTC announced they were going to change their focus in 2012 to produce better quality builds and get away from the cheap feeling phones. I find it hard to believe they would wait so long for that announcement and then have a non-plastic phone at CES.
But who knows...if they do, I will be excited. I just sold my Nexus One today and it hurt a little inside. Such a good phone with a great feel and quality build. Would love to have another HTC in my pocket to replace the Samsung.
HTC vs. Samsung
body vs. screen
looks vs. graphics performance
I'm waiting for the coming wave. The OG Droid opened the doors for the 2010 wave, but the N1 was the best buy two years ago because it was the first that could stand in line with the new wave of superphones (1 GHz, OLED, etc.). The GN may have started the new wave of 2012, but it's not gonna stand with the rest of the quad-cores (and it's missing external storage?!??!).
I'm still waiting. Next wave is a new day for competition between HTC and Samsung. I'm excited.
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HTC vs. Samsung
body vs. screen
looks vs. graphics performance
I'm waiting for the coming wave. The OG Droid opened the doors for the 2010 wave, but the N1 was the best buy two years ago because it was the first that could stand in line with the new wave of superphones (1 GHz, OLED, etc.). The GN may have started the new wave of 2012, but it's not gonna stand with the rest of the quad-cores (and it's missing external storage?!??!).
I'm still waiting. Next wave is a new day for competition between HTC and Samsung. I'm excited.
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Agreed, Tegra 3 phones may start the new wave with the 5th low power core. Seems fairly revolutionary to me.
A friend has a galaxy note and loves it. The fonts are larger on the home screen for vision impaired. This week is CES so maybe HTC will have some surprises.
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Yeah, I'm waiting for a good HTC phone to come out to replace my N1. I can't stand the plasticy feel of the SGII or the Galaxy Nexus.
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Well HTC released the amazed 4g great looks and build quality. Now if your waiting for a HTC with plain android you might have to wait a while.
NEVER! Their phones are made of cheap plastic. After spending so much on a phone, you atleast would like to get a good feel of the phone....not like the ones samsung makes.
HTC Rocks....All time!!! They know how to make phones.
I switched from my much loved N1 to the Galaxy Nexus, and I'm pleasantly surprised! There are things about the GN I don't care for, but I can't see me switching back...
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I switched from my much loved N1 to the Galaxy Nexus, and I'm pleasantly surprised! There are things about the GN I don't care for, but I can't see me switching back...
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Can you elaborate?
Specifically, does it fit in your pocket? front pant's pocket? (trousers )
Which case do you use?
Thanks
I don't use a case, and it fits in my pocket perfectly. In fact, I had an issue with the N1 falling horizontal in my pocket, which was uncomfortable - I no longer have that issue.
Build quality looks great, though I do love the N1 more. Feel is much better on the GN, much more responsive, and smooth - but then again, what would you expect for the specs?
The LED notifications aren't as cool as the N1, and the lack of trackball can be a pain...
tried the gn at verizon as i am only a year into 2 year tmo contract, can't buy
loved size and text reading
build seemed ok, not as good as n1--but it was strapped down
8-13 mb dl's on speedteast
no smoother than n1 ics rom i am on--imho
faster webbrowsing--but seemed no faster than my wifi which clocks in at 4-5mb
didn't like menu buttons
when scrolling there is a jitter and out of focus look, then it refocuses
will look at sgsII at tmo, but will, with contract restrictions, probably be looking at quads
It's certainly not way ahead of the pack, like the N1 was when it was released (and for a long time afterwards)...
People are reporting 10 - 15 mb downloads on 4g, but it never get anything like that in this area (with 5 different phones)
I recommend you ditch the contract with T-Mo if you can. No contact options are about $20 a month less than contact, which is $480 over the 2 year duration. Just a suggestion...
thanks DR
I have 3 phones on the contract, may not be financially smart atm
will look into it--was hoping for tmo to pick it up--like the speed and large text
do you have the scroll jitter and focus issue I described, may be normal
was looking at new blaze coming to tmo also--42mb phone
http://wirelessandmobilenews.com/2012/01/samsung-galaxy-blaze-4g-hd-spec-revealed-nexus-hd.html
but as you know, the n1 seems ageless with running ics now--tough choices

What's your motivation towards upgrading to Galaxy SIII

I believe many of you have come from galaxy SII or any other high end devices. I've had galaxy SII for 6 months and now I have to decide whether buy a galaxy SIII or not.I know S3 is much more powerful but seems to lack to present real new features. I doubt Whether it's worthy to upgrade or not. I would like to hear your opinion, however I appreciate sincere answers not only some radical misjudges.
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I have the Epic Touch on Sprint (GS2), and I preordered. However, the more reviews I saw and sample photos and the like, I couldn't see that it was worth the upgrade and a new 2-year jail sentence with Sprint. I cancelled my preorder and will stay with the Epic Touch, which I'm very pleased with.
I'll say why I upgraded from my SGS2 which I loved, bigger is better. Wanted a bigger screen but not to sacrifice pocketability, so 4.7 or 4.8 was the ideal size next compared to the GNote.
I'm a sucker for new technology so quad core performance.
I went with the HOX to have a change. Also got the sgs3 to test so will say why I think it's a a good upgrade.
Bigger HD screen. Once you go HD you'll love it.
Notification light very useful from my BlackBerry days for multiple events.
Wolfson DAC s2 sound quality wasn't the best so having a Wolfson back is a pleasant move and if supercurio brings voodoo sound it'll be even better.
Better camera.
Quad core, it's fast but the sgs2 is no slouch either. Nothing maximises quad yet.
New Touchwiz slightly better than the previous version but not a sole reason to upgrade.
Smart stay is useful in certain situations.
It's an upgrade but not a huge upgrade. I still think if your happy with the sgs2 then no need to upgrade best to wait for prices to drop then make the move and any initial issues to be sorted out. My one has the yellow tint.
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Have a high end device that I will own for a few years!
It will have lots of modders, so it will stay updated through the times
Just like the First galaxy S series has
My Galaxy Nexus is like 8 months old, and looks about 5 years old the paint is mullered, the metal round camera is scuffed basically it looks ****ed.
My S2 never looked like that even after 18 months.
I have been out of contract for about four months, rocking a Thunderbolt, and I was just bored to tears with it. I've done all the ROM's and just wanted to move on.
I really considered dumping VZ, but it's hard to walk away from that damn network lol. I didn't see any other phone coming soon that interested me, including the HOX. I need sd card and removable battery, otherwise I'd be using an iphone.
Great specs need something else to play with as my nexus is phasing out.
This is not just a phone - Galaxy Nexus
I've been on an Epic 4G (Sprint's original Galaxy S) since it's launch. It's feeling quite dated even though CM9 has given it some new life. It was between the SGSIII or the HTC EVO LTE (One X). The non-removable battery on the HTC made my decision pretty easy.
I'm still more than happy with my sgs2, I won't be upgrading yet, this will do till the sgs4 - a real upgrade
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Nuff said: )
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Cubfan99 said:
I have the Epic Touch on Sprint (GS2), and I preordered. However, the more reviews I saw and sample photos and the like, I couldn't see that it was worth the upgrade and a new 2-year jail sentence with Sprint. I cancelled my preorder and will stay with the Epic Touch, which I'm very pleased with.
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Maybe you did the best thing.I really would love have the best one in the market but, there should be some really noticeable advantages to pay for it.
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I'll say why I upgraded from my SGS2 which I loved, bigger is better. Wanted a bigger screen but not to sacrifice pocketability, so 4.7 or 4.8 was the ideal size next compared to the GNote.
I'm a sucker for new technology so quad core performance.
I went with the HOX to have a change. Also got the sgs3 to test so will say why I think it's a a good upgrade.
Bigger HD screen. Once you go HD you'll love it.
Notification light very useful from my BlackBerry days for multiple events.
Wolfson DAC s2 sound quality wasn't the best so having a Wolfson back is a pleasant move and if supercurio brings voodoo sound it'll be even better.
Better camera.
Quad core, it's fast but the sgs2 is no slouch either. Nothing maximises quad yet.
New Touchwiz slightly better than the previous version but not a sole reason to upgrade.
Smart stay is useful in certain situations.
It's an upgrade but not a huge upgrade. I still think if your happy with the sgs2 then no need to upgrade best to wait for prices to drop then make the move and any initial issues to be sorted out. My one has the yellow tint.
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Yep you're right too.The screen is bigger but just about 0.5 inch. I haven't had SGS3 in my hand but I've played with my friend's HOX and have to say SGS2 screen is still one of the best.even more,I found the HOX a laggy device in contrast to SGS2.
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Have a high end device that I will own for a few years!
It will have lots of modders, so it will stay updated through the times
Just like the First galaxy S series has
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About having the high end device i have to disagree with you.it only takes 6 months to find a new monster in the market.but I think you're right about the modders. For know my only motivation is migration of great devs like gokhanmoral to SGS3.
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I'm still more than happy with my sgs2, I won't be upgrading yet, this will do till the sgs4 - a real upgrade
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we might experience flexible Glasses in SGS4.
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The software on my current phone is a disaster with no ics upgrade till the end of the year and there is very little developer support.
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Coming from vibrant
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I loved T-mobile's Galaxy s2, so the s3 was a must have.
I have a HTC Aria, its 2 years old only has 3G on it, iPhone size screen. I'm ready to upgrade. The battery life of the S3, doubles mine, the 2GB ram quadruples mine, and the processor well lets just not compare those.
Haha had an aria as well for a year then got an inspire... I thought I was making a huge jump
"All this knowledge is giving me a major brainer!"
My first Droid (coming from iPhone 3Gs) is this Thrill 4G. I went by specs and the 3D feature. Everyone said it was a gimmick, but I liked it and it will be the only thing I will miss about it.
Anyway, it turned out to be a real dog. Nothing but issues with my music (especially playlists), missed calls that it doesn't tell me about but I get the messages, slow camera and I could go on. I have restored it, rooted it, tweaked it and I am sick of it.
Two of my friends have GS2s and they have always been so much better and faster. So much more support. So much prettier, snappier, better pictures. But I waited. I waited for the successor. Now it is coming to the U.S. and I can finally trump my buddies! MUHAHAHAH!!! Then one of them ordered the GS3 also, but I'll have mine first! Maybe. Depends on the Judge I suppose.
Anyway, that's my story. Excuse me whilst I go back to converting my 3D pics to 2D.
I've had my captivate since late 2010, and though I've had a faster Android experience with the Transformer Prime, I'm ready to experience it in a phone.
Apart from that, I've really wanted LTE for a whole. 3G is just too slow.
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I've had an iPhone 3G (9 of them...) for the past 4 years. It's painstakingly slow! You guys don't even know! If i was being chased by a pack of wild tigers I'd probably get mauled before I could call 911 on this crap. Also for me, iOS is very stale and boring now. I want something new and FRESH! I love customizing everything I own and Android will allow me to do just that.

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