Database Users

Mail app supporting drag and drop

Hi,
I'm using the Athena heavily for mail and am wondering if any of you have come across an application that supports 'drag and drop' of mails into folders like Outlook (or other apps) do on a PC.
The current 'right-click', selecting 'move' and then pointing to the folder is a bit slow and with the amount of mails I get the drag-and-drop would definitely help.
I tried Flexmail and while they support the 3-pane look (folders on the left, email list on top and preview on the bottom - perfect!), this particular function doesn't seem to be in and a question / feature request I put in a few weeks back seemed to have gone straight to /dev/nul
so... anyone... anyone...???
Thanks!

Flex mail is so damn slow.. You'll notice it when your inbox gets bigger.
Currently I dont see any mail application requesting your functionality but I am in a similar situation to handle lot of emails. Usually the mails that you want to sort into a particular folder will most likely have a same or similar subject. Do you know that when you type something when in Inbox screen, it automaticalyy searches and lists the matched mails alone? Then Select-All, move will save a lot of time for me..
Regards,
Carty..

Gmail confusing

I accept that I just don't get it but...
WTF is up with the Gmail app? No folders, only labels, is there a way to empty trash? Is there a way to take things out of the trash? I don't get the labels thing. I just want a normal email client interface for Gmail push mail.
These threaded 'conversations' are annoying as hell to sift thru.
Are the labels the 'new' folders? Am I supposed to create labels like I used to create folders? Is this only done thru the web desktop version of gmail?
I know, I know I'm the dumb*ss here... but WTF.
I guess this new Gmail thing is this great new revolutionary thing but I just don't get it and looking through emails in this new way that's unlike any email client I have ever worked with has never been more frustrating.
Pardon my rant... just frustrated that I am having such a difficult time understanding this and I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't get it. Please forgive.
BTW, I tried the Gmail help & faq but I still don't get it. Can anyone point me towards something that will help me become an expert in this new amazing label bullsh*t? Thanks!

I recently noticed that you cannot bring an item from the trash back to the inbox. I would consider that a bug. Fortunately you can fix it by logging in thru a web browser.
Deleted items are dumped automatically once they are 30 days old. You can empty trash if you go in via browser but there's really no point.
Yes, labels are "the new folders". They work the same way except an e-mail can only be in one folder but it can have any number of labels.
I would recommend that you start using the browser-based gmail on your PC for a little while. It's a little easier to undertsand that way and then it will make more sense on the phone.
ETA: Another thing people have trouble with is the "Archive" button which really means "Disappear from the Inbox." So if you want to "put a message into a folder" tag it with whatever labels you want and then archive it. Conveniently, if a new message appears in an archived conversation, it will automagically un-archive itself.

Thanks for your response... I'll take a look at the online desktop version of Gmail, try to familiarize myself with this new way of organizing email. Definitely not a fan so far...
on my G1 whenever I select a message and go to change the label my only option is Inbox (+ or -) whatever that means. And yeah I accidentally hit Archive on one message and accidentally reported another as spam... and there's no confirmation on anything so it does it all immediately, which is great if you know what the hell you're doing.
Push mail comes at a price I guess. Thinking my dumb*ass will stick with IMAP checking every 5 mins. Oh well.
F*cking lame system if you ask me.

yeah, i don't get it either. watched some coworkers use gmail and it didn't make any sense to me why they would change how email client works. but at least their calendar app behaves normally as far as i can tell.
i'll just stick to my pop3 email, although the pop email client on the g1 is total crap.

strangethingz said:
on my G1 whenever I select a message and go to change the label my only option is Inbox (+ or -) whatever that means.
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If you remove the Inbox label (it show + when it's removed) it's the same as archiving.
I think you can only add labels via the web interface, which is why you only see the inbox label.
F*cking lame system if you ask me.
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Once you start using it, the "old way" should start to drive you nuts.
@Ultraman: They changed it because that's pretty much what Google does for a living. They try to come up with a different (and hopefully better) way to do things.

Yeah the pop3/imap client isn't so great, but it looks a lot better than the Gmail interface in my opinion...
I notice a problem though with the pop3 client where it always displays messages as unread even if I've looked at them... for some reason I don't have this problem when I have the account setup as IMAP though.

I notice weird things happen... Where emails disappear from my inbox but I can see them when I view 'All Mail'. I check the label and it is set for Inbox and yet the message isn't listed on my G1 Inbox. I go online and sure enough it is listed in the Inbox online... so I have to view All Mail in the online version and select Move to Inbox (even though online it already appears to be in my Inbox) and then sometimes it shows back up on my G1 device.
Really loving that I have to continuously go online to reset emails... I love this new system... so much fun trying to hunt down emails. Wayyy better than folders. With folders everything was too predictable... drop an email in a folder and it stayed there... this new system is nice, keeps me on my toes

strangethingz said:
I notice weird things happen... Where emails disappear from my inbox but I can see them when I view 'All Mail'. I check the label and it is set for Inbox and yet the message isn't listed on my G1 Inbox. I go online and sure enough it is listed in the Inbox online... so I have to view All Mail in the online version and select Move to Inbox (even though online it already appears to be in my Inbox) and then sometimes it shows back up on my G1 device.
Really loving that I have to continuously go online to reset emails... I love this new system... so much fun trying to hunt down emails. Wayyy better than folders. With folders everything was too predictable... drop an email in a folder and it stayed there... this new system is nice, keeps me on my toes
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Make sure your client isn't set to automatically delete email off your server after its fetched

hmm..yeah there might be a bit of understanding curve if you are new..
i been using gmail since early beta days and now i just cannot go back to those rigid folders used by yahoo etc..
i have so many labels and they are all intertwined..just cannot imagine living with the "old folder"
good luck with getting thru gmail

I know the labels seems confusing, but as one poster put it before -- When you put something in a folder, it's just in that folder, and nowhere else. Labels gives you the option of having things organized a little better.
For example, an email from my Dad telling me his new address can have the lables "DAD", "FAMILY" and "ADDRESS".
The labels come into play really well on the web interface, you can go to your labels on the left, click the label and get everything that has that label.
With the folder system, you have to chose ONE place for it. With the labels system you can tag an email with as many labels as it needs so when you need to find it, it's easy.
The labels come in really handy for sorting incoming email, I have a bunch of filters that do all kinds of things, for example -
Facebook Filter - I set this up to tag those Facebook notifications with a "FACEBOOK" label and then to mark them as read. I can see that I got them, but I don't have to worry about getting a notification on my phone about silly facebook stuff.
Work Filter - Anyone emailing from my theatre company automatically gets the label, so I can see all of the correspondence about the company very easily.
I love the threaded emails, makes it so much easier to follow the conversation. Not everyone's email is set up to respond with the text from the previous email, so this helps keep it all intact. I think it helps organize and keep the inbox looking tidy.
I would definitely play around with the PC version. The android version is limited, even the android-browser version is limited (but does have more features than the app). Once you get a handle on the PC version, the G1 version will make more sense. I don't know if they've fixed anything, but years ago I tried the IMAP way of checking my gmail in Outlook -- totally sucked, would pull everything, even deleted emails through. I just tested, and apparently this has changed, but it used to be the case that "deleted" emails weren't truly "deleted" they actually went to some other archive and you could bring them back if you wanted. They put a little notice or something letting you know it had been deleted and "do you want to recover the email?" sorta messaging.
Anyway, a lot of people like gmail a lot, but not everyone is going to like everything. Especially when it involves a new way of thinking. If you have Outlook 2007, they've done something very similar with lables - so gmail is definitely influencing and changing the way people think about email.

punkzanyj said:
If you have Outlook 2007, they've done something very similar with lables - so gmail is definitely influencing and changing the way people think about email.
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So true! Actually Outlook has had categories/labels for a long time but they were never well-implemented/supported until 2007. I actually use conversation view, categories and search folders now to mimic gmail in Outlook as best I can!

He,y guys, thanks for your input. I guess I wasn't aware of that in Outlook 2007. I've been using outlook based purely on folders and mail rules. Good to know.
I've been forcing myself to get comfortable with the new system. I find the less I mess with things, the better it works for me. Specifically I find if I remove the Inbox label from an email then later add it back on it doesn't always show up again in the Inbox... but it's probably something I'm doing wrong.
Aside from that one thing, the labels are working pretty well for me now. Like you mentioned I setup work, family, ecommerce, etc labels and I do like the way these labels show next to the message on the g1.
Slowly but surely becoming a believer... Thanks for helping me understand.

Question...
How do I delete an individual email message from a conversation? I tried to go into the conversation via the Gmail app, selected the message that i wanted to delete and deleted it, but it killed the whole conversation instead of the one individual email. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!

I don't think it can be done in the phone interface though you might be able to do it in the web interface.

Not a fan of the conversation threading for this very reason. Sometimes I get an important email with a few not so important replies... and I have to look through conversation thread to locate the important info when 90% is trash...
I wish i could have push Gmail with the old so-called *inferior* folder method that never had these silly issues. If you're going to re-invent the wheel, seems it would make sense to add functionality without taking away from the basics.
I'm going to re-invent a wheel that requires physical carrying until I can figure out how to get it to roll properly.. but it's gonna be way better than the old way because these new wheels have lights! ooh! Sorry for the sarcasm
Thanks for the reply!

In the web interface click the 'down arrow' next to "reply" on an individual email in the thread. Choose 'Delete this message'.
You can only delete a single mail from the thread in the web app - not the Android app it seems.
I've been using Gmail since the invite Betas too, and so the Android App is more of a supplement for me...

Okay, well it's good to know there is a way to do it. Thanks for the instructions on how to delete a specific message in a conversation! Much appreciated!

A few Leo/HD2 questions

HI,
As some of you may have seen on a previous post I am giving some serious consideration of swapping from an iphone 3G to the HD2, and before I make my mind up I would like to ask a few more questions about the device, mainly the windows operation system as I've never had a windows phone before. I have been to numerous stores and none have the HD2 for me to trial so please accept my apologies for asking so many questions. It would be so much easier if I could get to try it for myself. Anyway here goes (sorry for the referals to the iphone):-
Can I drag and drop word, excel documents etc from my laptop to the phone and view and manipulate the documents on the phone?
I'm assuming you can arrange photos in individual folders, eg holidays, friends etc?
When you open a photo folder can you view the pictures as thumbnails (as on the iphone), or do you have to scroll through each picture to get to the one you want?
To use email (hotmail and googlemail for me) do you have to go via the internet, or is there an app as on the iphone, and does this sync with the accounts online ie if you delete on the phone will it have deleted when I view mail online?
Is it true that the internet on the HD2 does not support flash, and if so how will this affect my internet viewing?
Cheers

snerkler said:
Can I drag and drop word, excel documents etc from my laptop to the phone and view and manipulate the documents on the phone?
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Yes, but it obviously needs to be a version of the document that can be read by the office applications on the phone (they are Microsoft office apps, but they're office 2007, not later.) It's easy enough to do "save as" on the PC and save as office 2007.
snerkler said:
I'm assuming you can arrange photos in individual folders, eg holidays, friends etc?
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Yes, you can drag and drop and create folders and sub-folders, just like on your PC.
snerkler said:
When you open a photo folder can you view the pictures as thumbnails (as on the iphone), or do you have to scroll through each picture to get to the one you want?
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You can open folders in the file explorer, which is obviously just a list of files. You can also use the Microsoft Picture & Video app, or the HTC Albums app. Both have their pros and cons, but they're very similar apps. They both give thumbnail lists of your images.
snerkler said:
To use email (hotmail and googlemail for me) do you have to go via the internet, or is there an app as on the iphone, and does this sync with the accounts online ie if you delete on the phone will it have deleted when I view mail online?
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You can add mutliple email accounts to the email tab in the Sense UI, which supports POP3 and IMAP email accounts, so you don't have to use an internet browser to read your emails. (You can also add a windows live account to the windows live app, which has its own benefits, such as messaging and push email.)
Your actions will affect your emails (such as deleting), but doesn't work too well the other way round. For instance, if I've got a notification of a new email and I delete it using my PC, it still shows as a new email on my phone. A little annoying, but hardly the end of the world.
snerkler said:
Is it true that the internet on the HD2 does not support flash, and if so how will this affect my internet viewing?
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Opera does not currently support flash, but IE does. It's not the most up-to-date version (as compared to a PC), but it's good enough for most flash viewing. If you're doing something like viewing youtube, you're better off with the youtube app, and if you want to view some flash intensive sites, you can try other browsers, such as skyfire.
I think that answers your questions, but let us know if you're not sure about anything.

snerkler said:
HI,
Can I drag and drop word, excel documents etc from my laptop to the phone and view and manipulate the documents on the phone?
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Yes you can do this, the HD2 can support a lot of formats, excel, Word, PFD etc.
snerkler said:
I'm assuming you can arrange photos in individual folders, eg holidays, friends etc?
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Windows Mobile is much like any computer OS, you can create folders and files much the same way. So yes you can organise your photos in any folders you like, or in the case of HTCs overlay of Windows Mobile, organise by Album.
snerkler said:
When you open a photo folder can you view the pictures as thumbnails (as on the iphone), or do you have to scroll through each picture to get to the one you want?
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This depends where and what program you use to open the folder. If you use the Sense UI overlay (HTCs default) then the folder will open with thumbnails. From there you can open photos and rotate and zoom by pinching the photos and dragging them around. If you use Windows default file explorer or Total Commander you will just see the images as files.
snerkler said:
To use email (hotmail and googlemail for me) do you have to go via the internet, or is there an app as on the iphone, and does this sync with the accounts online ie if you delete on the phone will it have deleted when I view mail online?
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If you use gmail (as I do also) you can read your email from the main UI on the HD2 without having to run a seperate app (though unlike the iPhone you can run several apps at the same time). However if you prefer there is also a Java Gmail app that will also run on the HD2
snerkler said:
Is it true that the internet on the HD2 does not support flash, and if so how will this affect my internet viewing?
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The HD2 like many WinMo phones can of course support Flash. The default Opera browser version 9.7 on the HD2 won't support it. However later Beta versions now support it. You can also use the very excellent SkyFire browser (free) which will also play flash and of course youtube and more all within the browser.

Just to add, there is fix to add flash support for opera
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544770
also there is beta trial version for office 2010 so you can open up to 2010 versions of office files.

@jagnet Beat you to it

Thanks for the help guys, I'm pretty much sold I think. Another question I've thought of is relating to contacts and email.
As it's a windows device I'm assuming contacts will sync with outlook? Will the email addresses in my contacts automatically sync with the email app so when I use email all the email adresses I need are already there?
With regards to the office docs, I'm currently running office 2010 beta, but it saves the files as 97-2003 docs so I'm assuming this will be OK right?
Do you think they'll be a fix for the emails not deleting from the phone if you delete them on your PC any time soon? LIke you say, not the end of the world, but can imagine it might get a touch tiresome
Cheers

snerkler said:
Thanks for the help guys, I'm pretty much sold I think. Another question I've thought of is relating to contacts and email.
As it's a windows device I'm assuming contacts will sync with outlook? Will the email addresses in my contacts automatically sync with the email app so when I use email all the email adresses I need are already there?
With regards to the office docs, I'm currently running office 2010 beta, but it saves the files as 97-2003 docs so I'm assuming this will be OK right?
Cheers
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Yes, and yes.
You can use outlook to sync contacts, emails, texts etc., either via an exchange server (using your data connection), or via the cable when connected to your PC. I personally don't use this though, as I don't use outlook at home. Far too much like work lol
Saving docs as office 2007 docs will make them usable with the office software on the phone.

snerkler said:
Do you think they'll be a fix for the emails not deleting from the phone if you delete them on your PC any time soon? LIke you say, not the end of the world, but can imagine it might get a touch tiresome
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Honestly, I doubt it. This is the first time I've ever mentioned it myself, and I've never seen anyone else mention it on here. Besides, I very rarely use a PC for emails now. I've had emails in my pocket for about 4 or 5 years now, so I really only use a PC if I want to send large emails, or attach stuff that's on the PC.
I wouldn't hold my breath on a fix for that to be honest.

Just to add my thoughts on the HD2---
I've had mine since launch and the product is still buggy. HTC are throwing out updates (backdoor and official) on a regular basis. The main bugs for me which I'm not sure are cured yet are SMS getting stuck in the outbox and also the touch screen becomes active during a call which means the side of your face dials digits or hangs the calls.
Regarding email- I moved from Hotmail to Gmail because Hotmail does not support Activesync. I wanted to sync over the air my email, contacts and calendar. Hotmail only supports email and contacts. Gmail works great.
I'm hoping that come the end of January that all the main bugs will be ironed out. HOPING!!! or Praying!!!

philtrick123 said:
Regarding email- I moved from Hotmail to Gmail because Hotmail does not support Activesync. I wanted to sync over the air my email, contacts and calendar. Hotmail only supports email and contacts. Gmail works great.
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A combination of the native windows live features and microsoft myphone would have resolved that issue, and given you the ability to sync a lot more too

philtrick123 said:
Regarding email- I moved from Hotmail to Gmail because Hotmail does not support Activesync. I wanted to sync over the air my email, contacts and calendar. Hotmail only supports email and contacts. Gmail works great.
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A combination of the native windows live and microsoft myphone features would have resolved that issue, and given you the ability to sync a lot more too

Originally Posted by snerkler
Do you think they'll be a fix for the emails not deleting from the phone if you delete them on your PC any time soon? LIke you say, not the end of the world, but can imagine it might get a touch tiresome
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For me emails delete from handset when deleted from PC (both exchange and hotmail) and vice-versa.
You can also set POP email accounts (i.e. gmail, hotmail) to sync at 'x' intervals (or constantly) so in affect it then turns it into push email service, which is nice - drains the battery though so i sync every couple of hours and then hit "Send/Recieve" if i want to manually update folders.

jrrigney said:
For me emails delete from handset when deleted from PC (both exchange and hotmail) and vice-versa.
You can also set POP email accounts (i.e. gmail, hotmail) to sync at 'x' intervals (or constantly) so in affect it then turns it into push email service, which is nice - drains the battery though so i sync every couple of hours and then hit "Send/Recieve" if i want to manually update folders.
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It may just be something I've noticed, and not a widespread issue. I don't really think many people would be bothered if they did notice it anyway!
I'm just a pedant and expect a lot

HD2 Notification Screen
Would someone please help me with this issue I have with the notification screen, I am not sure whether this was caused by installation of CM WiFi, but the notification screen is not showing any more when I touch the notification area, instead individual boxes pop out e.g. comm manager, any idea how to fix this.

zoum79 said:
Would someone please help me with this issue I have with the notification screen, I am not sure whether this was caused by installation of CM WiFi, but the notification screen is not showing any more when I touch the notification area, instead individual boxes pop out e.g. comm manager, any idea how to fix this.
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Ask that question in a new thread. This is called "hijacking" and is considered rude

philtrick123 said:
Just to add my thoughts on the HD2---
The main bugs for me which I'm not sure are cured yet are SMS getting stuck in the outbox and also the touch screen becomes active during a call which means the side of your face dials digits or hangs the calls.
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I thought I read that the SMS issue had been resolved?
Is the touchscreen becoming active during calls a common fault?

jrrigney said:
For me emails delete from handset when deleted from PC (both exchange and hotmail) and vice-versa.
You can also set POP email accounts (i.e. gmail, hotmail) to sync at 'x' intervals (or constantly) so in affect it then turns it into push email service, which is nice - drains the battery though so i sync every couple of hours and then hit "Send/Recieve" if i want to manually update folders.
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At first i tried setting up my gmail account using google synch to be able to use active sync to do pushmail. It worked very badly imo, when it was set up to sync "as items arrive" the synchronization was very bad, the time between actually receiving an email and it showing up on the device was very long for example, sometimes i had to sync it manualy.
So it set up my gmail account using imap. The downside is you don't really have the pushmail feature and the minimum delay between the "send/receive"s is 5 minutes (although 5 minutes is "quasi-instantaneous" really). The upside is that it works better. And it syncs up the read/unread status, you can delete a message on either your PC or your phone and it will impact the other one, which is pretty cool.
However it get quite weird behaviours sometimes. For example if i close outlook mobile and the device goes to sleep, when I wake it back up I get the outlook inbox directly, i don't know why. Also I did some tests and although my "send/receive" frequency is set to 5 minutes sometimes it seems like i have to do it manually ...
Is anyone having the same kind of trouble (with gmail or other accounts) ? Maybe I should start a thread about those issues ?

I've just had a thought, Office mobile does come preinstalled on the hd2 right?

Yes it does

Email & Text Queries on Galaxy S

Whilst using the Galaxy S I have come to miss a few features I had on my HD2.
Does anyone have any input on the following email and text message queries?
1. Email/Text Notification
On both my HD2 and the Desire (Desire email only) the email & text icon shows in green how many email/text messages you have.
Is there any way to have this feature on the Galaxy S?
Note: I know at the Lock Screen the Jigsaw displays a count but this does not indicate what is Email and what is Text.
2. All New Emails on a PC showing as Read
Iv'e noticed even when my Galaxy has it's screen switched off and untouched (in other words I have not checked the email messages), if later when I go to my PC it's showing all the messages as read (the Headings are no longer Bold Text).
Has anyone come across a method to reverse this?
As in when I go to my PC I want to see any new messages I have not yet read as Marked as Unread.
3. Spam Content
I've noticed all messages including Spam are shown on the Galaxy S in the Inbox.
The trouble here is not so much as it being displayed but unlike on the PC which has a dedicated Spam Folder you can't identify which messages are genuine and which are Spam.
Is there any way to sort this out?
I'm dreading clicking on one message only to find out it's Spam.
4. Different Sound Ringtone/Notifications for either Email or Texts?
On the HD2 if a new email or text came in it sounded off a dedicated sound/ringtone, or if I'd missed a Text Message the HD2 flashed Green.
I know on the Galaxy S there is no LED notification to work this idea on but I miss having different sounds.
As an example ~ I'm constantly hearing the phone play a sound ~ which I then have to pick up time after time just to find out if it's an email or text message.
On the HD2 if it were a text message sound I'd pick it up and read it, whereas if it were an email sound I'd leave it until I was ready.
5. No Filter Support on Android Mail using services other than GMail
On the PC I use Yahoo for mail and like other email programs it supports filters where you can add as many folders as you wish.
I have many folders which when mail comes to my yahoo account is automatically filtered to a particular folder ~ as in I have a filter marked 'Brother' where all my Brother's email gets dropped automatically into and when new mail comes in his folder it is shown in bold and indicates such with a number of how many email messages he has sent.
On Windows Mobile, i.e. the Touch HD & HD2 in particular to have the phones display mail that is sent to these filtered folders you select to Manage Folders and add them to the list of messages to download to the phone and view/reply to.
On Android i.e. the Galaxy S there does not appear to be any means of viewing these filtered folders. As such all mail sent to these folders is not received by the phone.
Therefore, does anyone know of a method like on Windows Mobile where you can display these folders?
6. Text Message Character Counting
Again on Windows Mobile Touch HD & HD2 when you went to compose a Text Message whilst you tapped away at your message it would count the characters being used.
Although most of us have an unlimited sms account I used to find this feature useful in that it at least showed me how many text messages it would be to generate the long message.
Quite often I used to try and get the character count down to a single text message quote of just 160 characters or 240 for two messages.
So, the question here is ~ how do we get Android to show the character count?
7. Replying to Yahoo Email Messages directly from the App 'Internet'
I have created a bookmark icon on the Galaxy S which automatically launches the App Internet then the bookmark Yahoo Mail.
I've noticed every time I try to reply to an email message from within the Internet yahoo client (not the Android mail App) it will not allow you to add any text.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Notes:
Item 5 added Monday 21 June 2010 ~ see Post 14.
Item 6 added Tuesday 22 June 2010 ~ see Post 17.
Item 7 added Tuesday 22 June 2010 ~ see Post 19

For number 2 and 3, do you use Gmail, Exchange, POP or IMAP for your mail?

helinus said:
For number 2 and 3, do you use Gmail, Exchange, POP or IMAP for your mail?
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It's BT's Yahoo

From what i can see om BT's website there email-offering does only support POP which does not update read-status to the server.
Are you sure you get new emails to your PC when your phone downloads emails aswell?
usually when something downloads emails from an POP-server it takes the emails from the server so that it's only available om the thing that downloaded the email.

Beards, I don't know how it is on the Yahoo email but on the Gmail Android application we go in settings and we change the sound notification.
For SMS in settings isn't there a sound notification alert setting? usually on Android there is and you click it and you decide which ringtone you want, same for email.
Try ChompSMS from the Market (along with Handcent it's the best one in my opinion)
you can customize the ringtones, etc.. and it's a very nice application for SMS (also bubble chat).

helinus said:
From what i can see om BT's website there email-offering does only support POP which does not update read-status to the server.
Are you sure you get new emails to your PC when your phone downloads emails aswell?
usually when something downloads emails from an POP-server it takes the emails from the server so that it's only available om the thing that downloaded the email.
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Thanks helinus but all I know is on the HD2 when it receives emails it does not alter anything on the PC's Yahoo Mail web page.
Even further, with the HD2 if you have a look at the email messages and mark them as read, when you next go to your PC the messages are still shown as new marked as unread.
This appears to be totally different with the Galaxy S.
I had a talk with my Brother who has a Desire and he says like the HD2 the email messages on the PC remain unread.
Archius said:
Beards, I don't know how it is on the Yahoo email but on the Gmail Android application we go in settings and we change the sound notification.
For SMS in settings isn't there a sound notification alert setting? usually on Android there is and you click it and you decide which ringtone you want, same for email.
Try ChompSMS from the Market (along with Handcent it's the best one in my opinion)
you can customize the ringtones, etc.. and it's a very nice application for SMS (also bubble chat).
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You are so, so correct and I can not understand how on earth I missed this.
First at the Messages settings I altered the ringtone then I went to the Yahoo email settings and altered this to a different ringtone.....
Now I have different sounds for both text & email.... thanks Archius.
All I need to do now is sort out items 1, 2 & 3.

you're welcome
for item 1. you can download Chompsms or Handcent and both have a "widget/icon" that has a number next to it that indicates how many new sms you have. (or maybe you can find an app in the market that tells you how many new sms's you have, search for "sms" in the market or try different words)
For the email part, hmmmm.. I use gmail and there's an app that includes a widget for gmail with the same icon as the original while at the same time revealing how many emails we have with a number on the icon... try to find something similar for Yahoo mail ? but it won't be for the lock screen since this phone is brand new, we'll have to wait til people make applications for the phone.
part 3.. I use gmail and it has labels in the gmail app on Android and there's a separate Spam folder... not sure why Yahoo is like that :S.. same for the part where it "reads" the emails on your desktop without you reading them on the phone..

Archius said:
you're welcome
for item 1. you can download Chompsms or Handcent and both have a "widget/icon" that has a number next to it that indicates how many new sms you have. (or maybe you can find an app in the market that tells you how many new sms's you have, search for "sms" in the market or try different words)
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Thanks, I'll have a look at what the Market can offer.
For the email part, hmmmm.. I use gmail and there's an app that includes a widget for gmail with the same icon as the original while at the same time revealing how many emails we have with a number on the icon... try to find something similar for Yahoo mail ? but it won't be for the lock screen since this phone is brand new, we'll have to wait til people make applications for the phone.
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Interesting... I have both a Gmail & Yahoo account.
I'll check out the GMail App ~ do you have a name for it?
I'll see if there's anything similar for Yahoo.
part 3.. I use gmail and it has labels in the gmail app on Android and there's a separate Spam folder... not sure why Yahoo is like that :S.. same for the part where it "reads" the emails on your desktop without you reading them on the phone..
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Yes, I see what you mean with GMail ~ it does indeed have an item in the menu named View Labels.
Interestingly there was no Spam folder though.
Also under settings, theres an item named Labels which you can select which are synchronized.
However, back at Yahoo account (for anything other than Gmail)
It's a much better looking account and has more tabs for selecting Inbox/Drafts/Sent/Trash but no Spam.
Nor is there anything in the settings to show any labels.
I suppose as you don't use Yahoo you can't really comment on Item 2 ~ ' All New Emails on a PC showing as Read'.
This one has me flummoxed.
As I mentioned to helinus it's totally different to the HD2 and even on a Desire it doesn't effect the content on the server... Simply switch on the PC, check your email messages and they are still there all marked as unread.
I wouldn't mind so much if after I had checked the messages first on the Galaxy it then marked all messages read as read but no..... You don't even have to switch the Galaxy S on to find when you go to the PC all messages are marked as read.
Right mate... must go.
I have a speech to write tonight and hopefully a little time to do a Market search or two.......

This is the application:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/se.alexanderblom.gmailunreadcount
Gmail Unread Count, simply download from market and use it as a widget (not from the app tray but from the widgets menu)
and simply set up the image to "post something" i forget the name (I no longer have my Android cell I sold it today and getting ready for galaxy s tomorrow or after tomorrow)
There are many images to choose from, my favorite is the post... because it's the same as the 2.1 version.
I was using version 1.5 of Android and I THINK there was Spam folder in Gmail hehe, I do remember it being there... would be strange if they removed it in 2.1.. I doubt it, maybe you should try to make it "sync all" for spam in the settings menu of labels.
have a good night and speech =)

cool info, somewhat similar to what i was looking for

Also, try K9Mail from the market. It is one of the BEST email apps bar none and it is free. It may provide what you are looking for - link is for appbrain.

or this?
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.jonasl.gmailnotifier2

Okay... having now had time to play with the settings and less time in theatre, with the help of friends here I've managed to sort out 1 & 4.
I didn't go with any outside Apps/Widgets. In the end I found for SMS, as soon as you switch on the phone at the lock screen if there is any text messages you get a 'jigsaw pattern' with a peace of a jigsaw taken from the complete jigsaw and marked in solid green.
As to the email notification it's now a simple matter of pulling down the Notification window at the top of the screen. It displays all emails from all accounts.
It also shows if you have any text messages as well.
All I need now to do is solve 2 & 3 but I suppose just like 1 & 4 it's a case of less theatre and more hands on the Galaxy S.

Right......
I have another query to add to the list:-
5. No Filter Support on Android Mail
On the PC I use Yahoo for mail and like other email programs it supports filters where you can add as many folders as you wish.
I have many folders which when mail comes to my yahoo account is automatically filtered to a particular folder ~ as in I have a filter marked 'Brother' where all my Brother's email gets dropped automatically into and when new mail comes in his folder it is shown in bold and indicates such with a number of how many email messages he has sent.
On Windows Mobile, i.e. the Touch HD & HD2 in particular to have the phones display mail that is sent to these filtered folders you select to Manage Folders and add them to the list of messages to download to the phone and view/reply to.
On Android i.e. the Galaxy S there does not appear to be any means of viewing these filtered folders. As such all mail sent to these folders is not received by the phone.
Therefore, does anyone know of a method like on Windows Mobile where you can display these folders?
I'll add this item 5 to my opening post so that anyone new will understand all 5 items.

Yahoo mail does not support IMAP and therefore no folders.
I once had IMAP on yahoo with old touch hd but tried and never got it back.
IMAP by nature will ALWAYS mark messages read if read on another mail host, you probably were using POP.
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Yahoo mail does not support IMAP and therefore no folders.
I once had IMAP on yahoo with old touch hd but tried and never got it back.
IMAP by nature will ALWAYS mark messages read if read on another mail host, you probably were using POP.
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Then tell me Mark how the heck does the HD2 on Windows Mobile support it?

Here's another question to add ~ Text Message Character Counting
6. Text Message Character Counting
Again on Windows Mobile Touch HD & HD2 when you went to compose a Text Message whilst you tapped away at your message it would count the characters being used.
Although most of us have an unlimited sms account I used to find this feature useful in that it at least showed me how many text messages it would be to generate the long message.
Quite often I used to try and get the character count down to a single text message quote of just 160 characters or 240 for two messages.
So, the question here is ~ how do we get Android to show the character count?

Get Chompsms or Handcent Beards to have character counting lol
now I got the phone yesterday finally !!
and yes Gmail does have Spam, and has all folders.
consider using gmail though I know you would prefer to use Yahoo..

Archius said:
Get Chompsms or Handcent Beards to have character counting lol
now I got the phone yesterday finally !!
and yes Gmail does have Spam, and has all folders.
consider using gmail though I know you would prefer to use Yahoo..
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Hi Archius,
Pleased you got your Galaxy S.
I'm afraid due to my business commitments and other ties I have to use Yahoo.
Besides, why should we have to change a browser just to accommodate the Galaxy S?
I've found a 'workaround' but it's not ideal......
I've created a bookmark icon which automatically loads Internet Yahoo Mail.
At least I get to see exactly what I see on the PC.
Trouble is I've now come across another problem which I'll have to add to the list and that is replying to an email message from within the client's (Yahoo) browser. See below.
7. Replying to Yahoo Email Messages directly from the App 'Internet'
I have created a bookmark icon on the Galaxy S which automatically launches the App Internet then the bookmark Yahoo Mail.
I've noticed every time I try to reply to an email message from within the Internet yahoo client (not the Android mail App) it will not allow you to add any text.
Does anyone else have this problem?

That's a strange problem and I would not like that at all!
Try using another Internet app.
From the Market try "Dolphin"
also try "xscope"
try "opera"
"skyfire" also
try these four (start with xscope since I think it is the fastest and most stable)
and tell me how it goes =) I hope it will work out for you.
Did you try searching for an app called Yahoo? or k9mail. etc...

Transfering txt messages to emails

This may have been covered before but the last one i could find was 2009.
What is the best way of sending your txt message conversation to an email, or have my PC back it up.
Thanks,

Crude but effective, is to tap and drag over the entire conversation to select it, then tap and hold and select Copy from the pop-up menu.
Paste it into a new email message and send it, or paste it into Pocket Word and save it. Copy it to your PC through ActiveSync.
To do this programmatically requires negotiating the POOM interface which is a bit of a pig at the best of times.

Thanks. Are there any programs these days that would allow me to interface my txt messages with outlook? I know there use to be but that was a couple years ago.

There is Microsoft's Outlook Add-In but that is only for pushing out SMS messages from Outlook on your PC, there is no way to go the other way.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...b4-986e-4afb-ab21-3af2be63508b&displaylang=en
I believe Jeyo's Extender may be able to do it. It can be downloaded as a 15 day trial version, but is $20 for the full product.
http://www.jeyo.com/extender.asp

Try this http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-smssyncup.html
I've never used it so can't really say much about it.

About
I am not the original author of this program, it was created by computerjunkie. He graciously posted the source code when he stopped development, so I picked up where he left off. The original thread can be found here.
Cloud SMS Backup reads your SMS account and backs up the conversations by emailing them to an account of your choice. You can have them sent as separate emails each containing one of your conversations, or have all your conversations zipped up into one email. It also gives the options to empty your SMS account after backing up to prevent the slowdowns of having too many messages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761929