hey, i have a samsung vibrant, the t959 or something..
I rooted my phone, and then used the one click lag fix from the market.
Does this mean that i won't be able to get OTA(over the air) updates, or when i DO update it, will it soft brick? because it's soft bricked before and i had to return it to t mobile and get a new one for 10$ shipping fee, and my parents don't wanna deal with the trouble again.
so questions again:
-Will i recieve OTA updates even after lag fix?
-Will my phone soft brick (stuck on vibrant/samsung screen ) when i do update it?
ALSO a quick question...
if you have a samsung vibrant with the latest and newest firmware, and on your phone it doesn't say theres a update...
can you go to settings, scroll to bottom and press SOFTWARE UPDATE, does it say "no firmware"
thanks for the help, and so far these forums are awesome help.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
OTA updates Yes... But before you get the Froyo update you need to remove the lagfix. Otherwise you will brick the phone.
I know is cliche, but there is actually a lot of good info in the sticky in general...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
I learned a lot from that lol.. But to answer some questions, the only time you might not get OTA's is if you had a custom ROM that blocks them. If/when you do update its best to undo any lagfix to avoid problems. You don't really have to unroot, but you can.
As far as soft bricking, browse the forums, read as much as you can... Do that and you can mod with confidence lol... I soft bricked once, thought I might have to return the phone, read up and bam got it all fixed up The vibrant is actually a very resillient phone... Hard to actually break completely
Hope that help!
Related
Once rooted, even if running the stock ROM with su permissions, will I be able to even receive OTA updates (Froyo)? Or be solely responsible for flashing the firmware myself? Had a G1 before this but I ended up rooting it after all the updates to 1.6 had been sent out, so I'm unfamiliar how the world of rooting and OTA's collide. I would prefer to do as little modding as possible, even though my vibrant is much more of a high end phone than the G1, it got to a point where I was constantly flashing my phone with new mods and hacks and roms, and it got kind of frustrating having little things wrong here and there. I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.
joe.kerwin said:
Once rooted, even if running the stock ROM with su permissions, will I be able to even receive OTA updates (Froyo)? Or be solely responsible for flashing the firmware myself? Had a G1 before this but I ended up rooting it after all the updates to 1.6 had been sent out, so I'm unfamiliar how the world of rooting and OTA's collide. I would prefer to do as little modding as possible, even though my vibrant is much more of a high end phone than the G1, it got to a point where I was constantly flashing my phone with new mods and hacks and roms, and it got kind of frustrating having little things wrong here and there. I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sure right before the update becomes available you'll hear about it and you can always unroot ...
if you install the OTA, you will download the OTA (which is a NON ROOTED update) therefore making your phone get UNROOTED. now, you WANT do avoid installing the OTA's because they will unroot you, but since you aren't running a custom rom on your phone, you WILL get the OTA from t-mobile, you just have to force urself to DECLINE the install (if you want to keep root) you can update to the OTA release if you want to get rid of root, but if you wait a couple days, someone will have hacked a rooted version of the update.
Lieu10ant said:
if you install the OTA, you will download the OTA (which is a NON ROOTED update) therefore making your phone get UNROOTED. now, you WANT do avoid installing the OTA's because they will unroot you, but since you aren't running a custom rom on your phone, you WILL get the OTA from t-mobile, you just have to force urself to DECLINE the install (if you want to keep root) you can update to the OTA release if you want to get rid of root, but if you wait a couple days, someone will have hacked a rooted version of the update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
or you can just re-root...correct?
most of the time when an ota update comes out they patch the exploit used to root... this probably will not happen with the galaxy s series phones... 1)Samsung intends to sell 10 million of these phones... 2)It wasnt an exploit, it was left open to begin with
I'm not even sure if T-mobile cares. They allow their customers to post information about rooting their phones on their own forum.
I would post the link but I'm not allowed until my account has been verified.
oh lol, the way i worded my post was inferring that the new update would have "patched" the way to get root, but your responses make me think otherwise lol.
Better safe than sorry if Root is important to you. Wait for a guinea pig to update and verify if root is still an option or not.....
I was wondering the same thing too, but I have deleted most of the bloat ware that came with the brand. So after the ota and unroot, will these programs be reinstalled?
And if I did a factory reset would it restore the bloat ware and unroot the phone?
I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.[/QUOTE]
Is add free really that important? If you don't want a 3mm bar on your screen buy the app. I click the add every time I open an app that is free. If you don't then all the dev will make apple apps... Just kind of selfish if you where to ask me.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Not like we're getting an update ever. =|
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
bauerlucas said:
Just kind of selfish if you where to ask me.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He didn't ask you.
disturkis4u said:
Not like we're getting an update ever. =|
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks like this is the case for the moment. Maybe we will see something soon though, but I still would like to know about my questions.
Charles Sloan said:
I was wondering the same thing too, but I have deleted most of the bloat ware that came with the brand. So after the ota and unroot, will these programs be reinstalled?
And if I did a factory reset would it restore the bloat ware and unroot the phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Rather then making another thread about this, id just like to ask it here.
i know this has been asked about a million times, but i need to make in a million and one.
im rooted, clockwork recovery, mobile ap installed, and JAC kernel. I do not have any custom roms installed. Because of the custom kernel, im guessing that will keep me from receiving OTA?
I need to send my phone in for warranty its for a software failure. On there part not unrevoked I did this after it started happening. Well I used the latest unrevoked I cant find how to unroot it. I looked in my apps and all that bull**** its not there what do I do.
meygmoffroad said:
I need to send my phone in for warranty its for a software failure. On there part not unrevoked I did this after it started happening. Well I used the latest unrevoked I cant find how to unroot it. I looked in my apps and all that bull**** its not there what do I do.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks to Android Forums - I take ZERO credit for this, I'm just putting out the link. These guys are WAY smarter than I am. Read the entire post before you do it.
http://androidforums.com/all-things...ideo-howto-unroot-incredible-downgrading.html
Thank you is installed and did what it is suppose to do. I am new to a phone forum, I am used to minitrucking so give me a break. When I use unrevokes rooting method will I get verizons ota. Will something bad happen if I download it ( I do not plan on downloading any leaks).
meygmoffroad said:
Thank you is installed and did what it is suppose to do. I am new to a phone forum, I am used to minitrucking so give me a break. When I use unrevokes rooting method will I get verizons ota. Will something bad happen if I download it ( I do not plan on downloading any leaks).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Accepting and installing an ota update will most likely unroot your phone. The inherent risk is that you may never be able to root your phone again. Unrevoked's tool works on the leaked ota, but it may not work on the official one when it is released.
Easiest method ever.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732497
This other person had the same exact question. Run the RUU from your computer and it will revert it back to stock
Thread moved to General.
Hey, guys (and gals):
I posted this in the thread about the z4Root application, but didn't get an answer. It's kind of a general question anyway.
I'm totally interested in Rooting my Vibrant (using z4Root or some other one-click application based method), installing lag fix, and wifi tethering. That's it. I'm just worried that when 2.2 is pushed out to us, I won't be able to get the OTA. Does anyone know if the system is left intact enough by these methods to allow me to receive an OTA? Otherwise I might just suffer with what I have and wait a while. Also, anyone know if I can easily unroot using these methods if that is what is needed to receive an official OTA?
I'm not a total noob to rooting. I had an original MT3G, and rooted that one, flashed roms, etc, and even restored to stock before selling on eBay.
Thanks.
I'm pretty sure if you are rooted with stock rom you will receive OTA updates. If you flash a rom though you will not receive updates.
And yes, you can one click unroot with Z4Root if need be.
Pretty sure is good, but I was hoping for something definite. I don't plan on flashing ROMs, just rooting, applying lag fix, and then maybe wifi tethering/minor overclocking.
This is directly from the sticky post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
IF I ROOT, WILL I GET OTA UPDATES?
Yes. Rooting will not prevent this, unless you flash a custom ROM that will block receiving the OTA update. Typically, accepting an OTA will make you lose root. Some upgrading to JI6 state they didn't lose root, I did (using ODIN), but gaining root back is so easy.
So basically yep you'll get OTA's and then you can root again.
Awesome. It seems like there's always a sticky or previous post that answers my question. I appreciate your patience in not just douche-ily linking to it and telling me to search better. I'm thinking I'm going to root today.
Any idea on which lag fix is the easiest/best, if you've already done it?
jakemg said:
Awesome. It seems like there's always a sticky or previous post that answers my question. I appreciate your patience in not just douche-ily linking to it and telling me to search better. I'm thinking I'm going to root today.
Any idea on which lag fix is the easiest/best, if you've already done it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stick with RyanZA's one click lag fix from the market. It's pretty hard to mess up your phone with his fix.
Thanks. I plan to use his root and lagfix, then.
But you must get rid of the lag fix prior to update.. root is fine but not the lag fix though afaik..
go here and do this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833024
Even if you don't get OTA (which you should), you can always use Kies/Kies Mini to update. I use Kies/Kies Mini anyway because I hate waiting until the OTA is pushed to my particular handset.
Ms_Vibrant said:
But you must get rid of the lag fix prior to update.. root is fine but not the lag fix though afaik..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is true... Ryanz lag fix is an EXT2 type and the OTA's seem to look for the stock rfs system. So undo the lag fix, but you don't have to unroot.
RyanZa's OCLF is the way to go as already mentioned.
Yeah, I try not to be "douchey", it's not so fresh when you do that... lol!
I'm tempted to root my phone, and install a ROM, BUT is it really worth it? Should I have more patience and wait for 2.2 ROMS? Im worried if I root it now, then 2.2 comes out Ill have to restore it back to stock. I also heard if you have a rooted phone and a major update (like froyo) comes out your pretty much bricked. Advice needed?
malvoc said:
I'm tempted to root my phone, and install a ROM, BUT is it really worth it? Should I have more patience and wait for 2.2 ROMS? Im worried if I root it now, then 2.2 comes out Ill have to restore it back to stock. I also heard if you have a rooted phone and a major update (like froyo) comes out your pretty much bricked. Advice needed?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wrong section.
Root it. You can always unroot your phone and go back to stock. Ive done it plenty of time. Read through the forums....there are plenty of instructions on how to
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Agreed on rooting. The stock phone software is really crappy. I'm not sure how you live with it?
RacerXFD said:
Agreed on rooting. The stock phone software is really crappy. I'm not sure how you live with it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this ^^
10chars
You can always flash back to stock if you don't like what you did to it. I end up flashing to stock, then flashing to a rom every other week or so to clean any messes with my phone. You'll learn how to do it right and how to fix. But start by reading the stickies, and asking the guys on irc if you have questions.
I'ld be more concerned that if you get the OTA before you root, that the update will close the exploit and make it impossible to root afterwards. If you root now, you may have to wait a day or two longer for Froyo. But if you plan to root after (or if you unroot for an OTA), you may have to wait a lot longer for a new root method.
Root and ROM. no question about it. We haven't even heard a release date or even a time frame for when the Fascinate will get it. I know everyone bashes me for this but the bottom line is no one has ever came out and said that the fascinate will get it on this date. Maybe the galaxy S is. But not the VERIZON FASCINATE
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
Today I received an OTA system update version 1.82.405.1 on my HDZ.
Does anybody here received or installed it??
And what kind of update is it?
I'm affraid of losing root again, similar like what happend with version 1.72.
I feel like I'm stating the obvious here, but NEVER EVER install an OTA if you have root! I'm sure you know this now from your previous experiance, but just to save you trouble incase you didn't know. As for the update, I'm not sure what it contains, but it seems like an older update as the newest version of virtuous is based on 1.85.72.2.
EDIT: Also suggest reading this if you haven't already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099
Thnx.
But I've read it's safe to flash an OTA update once you've rooted your phone with the Gfree method.
I now running a stock 1.72 rom, rooted with Gfree / psneuter.
In that case I'm not sure, but I wouldn't try it until it's been confirmed to be ok. And while I'm sure you have you're reasons, but why not try out the likes of virtuous? It's pretty much stock sense but with added features and improved performance, and as I said it's also on the latest RUU.
Taking an OTA will *definitely* reduce you to "stock", so even if its safe, it isn't worth it.
Be aware that it *IS POSSIBLE* for an OTA UPDATE to modify your partition 7 and take away radio s-off. The only reason why people tend to say that its safe is ONLY because they never actually HAVE done that.
still i am curious about the content.
i dont need root anymore. DZ is perfectly fine without.
I don't think applying and offical OTA while rooted on a non stock rom is a good idea. If your willing to take the risk, or don't care about loosing root or getting it back if lost. Then try it out. Be the guinea pig because it doesn't look like you will take the advise of the forum you posted anyways.
Sent from my CM7 powered G2
whats in the update then??
Yeah I'd like to now too
Just checked, I get the update too....
I don't have s-off or root so I think I am going to download it.
It s 17MB,
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Install the new full ROM,then you don`t loos root and S-Off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960149
OTA 1.82
romdroid. said:
whats in the update then??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, it is a 17 Mb package. I got it and installed it. (nothing to lose, I have no root, I do not need it, my DZ is PERFECT without it. I have been tweaking and **** before on WinMo, but not now...)
It said it is camera improvements and other small bugfixes.
All I saw is a different sms counter on the icon, it's white numbers on a black circle, nothing special.
I had a busy day, had no time to play around.
The firmware remains 2.2.1.
I will follow up if I find out anything else.
Update: the mentiones sms counter is for a voicemail of course ))) my fault
I've read the album/gallery bugs are fixed. No need to rescan pictures anymore.
found this on another forum
Improve system performance and Camera feature enhancements.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if any1 got the full release notes , pls post...
wanna know of the sms notification bug is solved!! thats the only thing i hate
No use as the updates are usually non-important and if they are, someone will extract it and you can flash it by itself without the risk.
HTC hasn't yet released official release notes for this update. As already said it should improve camera, system performance, fix some bugs and also improve htcsence.com -functionality.
htc 1.82.405.1 update
I just updated using the OTA update to 1.82.405.1 on my htc desire z (I have stock android).
But now the touch screen is horizontaly mirrored.
Meaning if i click on home the search button is clicked.
If i touch the icons on the left side, the right side icon registers the click.
Only center of the screen is safe
Let me know if anyone else has this issue after the recent updated.
Hopefully there is a solution out there.
UPDATE:
I did 2x hard resets which didnt help.
However a soft reset did the trick and every thing is back to normal.
maus010 said:
But I've read it's safe to flash an OTA update once you've rooted your phone with the Gfree method.
I now running a stock 1.72 rom, rooted with Gfree / psneuter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you already have root/S-OFF, then it's only "safe" once the new release has been verified by the devs as not causing anything bad to happen with your root/S-OFF. e.g. in theory there could be a new OTA released that will permanently lock you out of root/S-OFF.
When the 1.72 OTA first came out, it wasn't rootable for quite a while, so folks with root who accepted the OTA lost their root for some time.
Damn, I am getting the feeling the new update drains the battery faster than 1.72,
phone was about empty at 11pm yesterday, it was plugged in until 8 am...
done nothing the entire day actually...
notification-bug seems to be fixed (yes, new counter for sms/mails/etc) and best part: no jumping screen, when writing sms!!! at least till now...