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Battery problems? Google lies?

So I found this great app that tells me how much life I have left on my battery. I find that with my phone I can hardly go pass 16 hours with MODERATE use yet everyone here is bragging about easily passing 30hrs with HEAVY use. So I'm asking you guys, to please, download this app called BatteryTime Lite and post your pics or info here. Lets compare the results. Remember to set the level to 100% as shown in my pic below..
Also I herd the P/N might be related, mine is 99HKE002-00 F ..Guessing F means Failure.

Are you using Cyanogen's ROM???

faraz1992 said:
Are you using Cyanogen's ROM???
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No, stock. Why you ask?

i read somewhere that Stock and Cyanogen's ROM have display consuming a lot of battery... its fixed on enomther's and modaco's desire port...
On Cyanogen and Stock, Display consumes ~60% battery while on Enomther's and MoDaCo's desire port, display consumes 15~20% battery...

faraz1992 said:
i read somewhere that Stock and Cyanogen's ROM have display consuming a lot of battery... its fixed on enomther's and modaco's desire port...
On Cyanogen and Stock, Display consumes ~60% battery while on Enomther's and MoDaCo's desire port, display consumes 15~20% battery...
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Thats what I herd too..thats why I'm also calling google a lier about saying this thing lasts 20hours with audio playback.
I'm curious, do they see a big improvement in battery when the display using 15-20% battery or its just numbers that were out a place to begin with?

I have identical figures. That combined with picking the N1 from a list says to me that these are just database figures rather than real world ones for your handset.

Root your phone and then install cyanogenmod and one of the under volted kernels. I usually get 24 - 30 hours battery life.

I just ran a test. I left the mp3 player on all night turn all the way on repeat. SO far after 8hrs of playing I was at 52%. If I'm correct, I just might be able to hit 18hrs...MMMM
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Root your phone and then install cyanogenmod and one of the under volted kernels. I usually get 24 - 30 hours battery life.
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Completely far from the part that I said google lied. Though I'm planning to root if the next update does not improve or fix these issues.

myplague said:
Root your phone and then install cyanogenmod and one of the under volted kernels. I usually get 24 - 30 hours battery life.
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what kernel is this? i am running cyanmod 5.0.5.3 and kernel 2.6.33.1-cyanogenmod [email protected]#1

I know the last letter of my p/n is B and its amazing

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I know the last letter of my p/n is B and its amazing
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link if u dont mind, sorry for jackin the thread.... back to our reg scheduled program

jack away..
zachthemaster said:
I know the last letter of my p/n is B and its amazing
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No problems at all? no 3g issues?, battery only lasting a day or half? or touch screen issues?

Ok after 100% charge..the app is telling me that my phone will last 10hr:48min with moderate use....anyone thinking that the F on my P/N might mean battery sucker..

i have the exact same numbers as you. if you choose other instead of the phone type it asks you to enter your battery's info so it sounds like it only goes by the type of battery anyway. Not actual usage specific to your phone

My phone ends in an F as well. My battery life SUCKS right now. I have tried everything. The weird thing is it was good until I rooted my phone and applied Cyanogen rom. I've tried .2 and .3 for the Cyan rom's, all with bad battery life. I've tried wiping batterystats, fulling draining battery then recharging, task killer to wipe anything in the background, I even have a 2nd battery. No luck. I've also tried the undervolted kernal, but I didn't really notice a difference with it. (Only tried it for about a day so)
Bottom line though, something is going on. Something (I suspect with Cyan's roms) is killing battery life for some of us. I just wish I could figure out what it is.

faraz1992 said:
i read somewhere that Stock and Cyanogen's ROM have display consuming a lot of battery... its fixed on enomther's and modaco's desire port...
On Cyanogen and Stock, Display consumes ~60% battery while on Enomther's and MoDaCo's desire port, display consumes 15~20% battery...
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Not saying your're wrong but can anybody else back this up or debunk it?

Beautiful phone with bad battery life and bad signal.That was just my experience.

ram130 said:
So I found this great app that tells me how much life I have left on my battery. I find that with my phone I can hardly go pass 16 hours with MODERATE use yet everyone here is bragging about easily passing 30hrs with HEAVY use. So I'm asking you guys, to please, download this app called BatteryTime Lite and post your pics or info here. Lets compare the results. Remember to set the level to 100% as shown in my pic below..
Also I herd the P/N might be related, mine is 99HKE002-00 F ..Guessing F means Failure.
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Any chance you're using Weatherbug or Weatherbug elite (based on your SS)? After installing weatherbug and using the widget I got absolutely ABYSMAL battery life. I've purchased several other weather widgets and none had the effect that Weatherbug did for some reason. I removed it and battery life is back to normal again (moderate use and plenty of battery at the end of the day).

ram130 said:
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No problems at all? no 3g issues?, battery only lasting a day or half? or touch screen issues?
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no problems AT ALL
no dead pixels
no purple tint, crystal clear and saturated colors
battery lasts 1.5+ days
3G (at&t) is almost ALWAYS there and quick as balls
palm reach thing is gone.. i mean, i had the t-mob version before this one and its exponentially a better experience all around.
data is QUICK too... i mean quick

How long your battery lasts definitely depends on the apps youre using, I use my phone a lot, probably more than the average user, although i dont make many calls. My phone will easily last from when I leave my house around 530am till 11pm or so when I go to bed. I do use a task manager to kill stuff I dont need running every once in a while, I think it really just depends on how you use it. I use it for a lot of texting, surfing and news, and Pandora at work. I use wifi when im at home although ive never noticed it eating my battery. Yesterday I was playing Pandora over bluetooth on 3G for a little over 3 hours and it only took 5% of my battery. Im on Cyanogen 5.0.5.3, if that matters. With all that said I rarely go all day without charging it, I usually plug it in a bit at work and plug it in when I get home, but if I dont for whatever reason it easily lasts my whole day.

Official Froyo battery life thread

Wanted to start this so we can get a better idea of what kind of battery life we will be seeing with 2.2! Please post your opinions so far and if you are rooted/stock and using stock kernel or the .34 kernel cyan posted. Hopefully we won't see much of a decrease do to JIT or any other new features

Probably won't be that great the first couple of days...testing out Flash and everything...(watching Hulu right now).

SiNJiN76 said:
Probably won't be that great the first couple of days...testing out Flash and everything...(watching Hulu right now).
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hulu doesnt work for me. i get unsupported device.

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hulu doesnt work for me. i get unsupported device.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686765

i was on CM5.0.7t2, and as we all know, CM is known for draining more battery than the stock rom/enoms but so far im seeing same usage as CM which is ok but not great. next few days will be testing for all of us. hopefully we will have similiar usages not like before where some people are getting 40 hours and some 10 lol

I dont if theres an improvement but I updated on a full battery. After I had 97% then killed the battery in like 5hours while at the Engadget Show lol

is anyone running setcpu with FroYo? im already gettin horribad battery life...probably due to Hulu

I may have done something wrong, but I'm on a rooted phone with kernel 2.6.32.9-27220-g328f560 and my phone went from 80% to 10% in about 4 hours just sitting in my pocket. The most I did was check some emails and some basic SMS.
Will monitor closer tomorrow by my battery usage shows something like 19% email. I wonder if my outlook push is doing something constantly that is hurting it.
Edit: it's also charging REALLY slowly. I have it connected to a USB port and its taken ~ 30 minutes to go from 14-16%.

So far, mine is looking pretty good. Early days yet though.

Its better with froyo.
Had to charge every evening with CM 5.0.6 and pershoots kernel, now i get almost a half day more (with more "playing around").
I use setcpu (245/499 at sleep).

My battery is showing 99% after 3 hours switched on and with light usage. If true, that is amazing! More likely something is not quite right. I am using the .34 UV kernel from persionsown he posted on twitter....

The Jones.. gotta try that Kernel..

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The Jones.. gotta try that Kernel..
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If I believed that it were a true reflection of battery use and not a mis-report of some sort, I would be shouting about it a lot louder!!

i streamed about 1.5 hours of video via qik (uploading not DLing). Still have 60% battery left. I say that's an improvement. Rooted modaco froyo

I'm seeing what I think is significantly worse battery life since I installed Froyo. It's hard to say, though, because I've been playing around in ways that are different from my normal usage pattern (checking the market frequently for updated apps, for example). I was on stock 2.1update1 and now am on stock Froyo.

Battery life is definitely better than Cyano/Modaco/Enomther but it is also worse than stock ERE27. Can definitely make it through a day still though on moderate/slightly heavy use with Froyo something I can't do with Cyan/Modaco/Enom...and this is way faster and more fun than any rom i've had previously so no complaints from me.

Well I was running cyan 5.0.7 and it lasted me longer than this I have now, which is Paul's Froyo.. but since my wi-fi finally stays on I wont revert.
Question: can I still install older custom kernels on froyo???. Want to try...

My battery died sometime last night, and I had gone to bed with it 70% charged. Prior to Froyo, I was on CM 5.0.6 and usually using intersectraven's 925mv kernels, and I would lose about 1.2% per hour while idling.
I'm not blaming Froyo yet, since it could have been an app screwing around. However, the battery usage page didn't show anything out of the ordinary. It will take some more testing before I ditch Froyo until an update is released.
BTW, battery usage while actually using the phone seems to be about the same.

my battery life was phenomenal today. i can't give percentage, because i haven't put on a battery widget (or many widgets at all, tbh), but stock froyo treated me well. was above 80% (guessing by icon) when i left work after 8 hours, some hulu, some wifi, some texting, some phone calls. not exactly heavy usage, but not just idle either.

timothydonohue said:
my battery life was phenomenal today. i can't give percentage, because i haven't put on a battery widget (or many widgets at all, tbh), but stock froyo treated me well. was above 80% (guessing by icon) when i left work after 8 hours, some hulu, some wifi, some texting, some phone calls. not exactly heavy usage, but not just idle either.
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Check out Battery Indicator http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator/
Great and extremely simple app. I've been using it for months. (And it doesn't drain battery either.)

Yet another battery issues thread

Yeah I know there are a lot of other battery threads out there, but just wondering if I can get some help from all you gurus.
Currently running MYN Warm 2.2 RLS3 with HTC kernel 2.6.32.15.
Have read a lot about this and done a lot of the usual optimizations (calibrate battery, turn off auto sync, 4G, etc...last test I did I was able to get about 25 hours on a charge with very little usage, which is pretty decent. So the phone seems to be sleeping the way it's supposed to.
The issue I have is that when I actually start using the phone the battery drains like crazy (about 1% every two minutes). This is with regular usage (i.e. internet browsing). If I use certain battery hog features such as Navigation or Bluetooh then it drains everything in a matter of an hour or so. Have tried playing around with SetCPU and don't really see any improvements (BTW I only get three options on SetCPU).
So the question is whether the battery drainage is a function of the Kernel I'm using? Why would it be good when it's sleeping, but as soon as I use something consumption goes through the roof. Is there anything out there that would allow you to see actual battery usage by app or service? I know Spare Parts gives you SOME info, but it's not granular enough (i.e. It says Android System includes many different pieces).

I doubt there's any magical kernel that can do more than what you are getting now.
Best you can do is to make sure the phone sleeps when the screen is off, which seems like you have already.
Max display on usage I usually get out of a charge is between 2-3 hours at about 30% brightness settings, out of about 12-15 hour per charge.
I sync google, always data on.

yo i have myn's rom as well but different kernel.. try the ones that myn added in the myn update app that came with the rom

Hmmm...so I guess 2-3 hours of actual usage is the best I can hope for then? I hear people saying how they get a lot of hours and that includes having Bluetooth on, browsing the web, Pandora, gaming, etc...If I did that with mine I don't think I would get more than 45 minutes.

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Hmmm...so I guess 2-3 hours of actual usage is the best I can hope for then? I hear people saying how they get a lot of hours and that includes having Bluetooth on, browsing the web, Pandora, gaming, etc...If I did that with mine I don't think I would get more than 45 minutes.
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You probably can extend it by using wifi but what's the fun in that?

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yo i have myn's rom as well but different kernel.. try the ones that myn added in the myn update app that came with the rom
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Hmmm...Where? Are you referring to the Warm Updater app? I don't see anything about other kernels there. I haven't flashed any kernels on my phone. This is the one it came with.
What battery life do you get when you're actually using the phone?
Achllles: I get quite a bit of degradation on WI-FI as well.
I'm just trying to understand if there's a way to see what exactly is eating my battery when I use the phone. I mean I could be just sitting on the screen not doing anything and if it's on it consumes quite a bit, but as soon as I turn off the screen everything goes to sleep and consumption drops to about 1% per hour. just trying to understand this huge disparity.

Not sure. Best you can do at this point is to install current widget and see how much is being consumed, and guess what's killing your battery.
One other thing I've noticed was even at same settings, my phone often consumed around 25-30mA while screen is off, but now it hovers around 50-100mA, and I haven't made any change to the phone.
Not sure if it's effect on real life usage, but it does seem like it does.

Maybe its not software related...maybe your battery is just shot already.

I know exactly what your going through OP. This caused me to leave Myns and Cyanogen and go to Fresh ROM.
This seems to have mainly fixed the problem.

Myn was using the stock kernal, but his new rsl4 is gonna be using ziggys elite kernal.. Now is this kernal gonna be faster than other ones? No but myn told me its not about speed. Its speed that makes your battery life go down. These flashy kernals that have high quadrant speeds, suffer battery draining issues. So wait till friday for the new rom, and see how that goes.

suarezn said:
Hmmm...Where? Are you referring to the Warm Updater app? I don't see anything about other kernels there. I haven't flashed any kernels on my phone. This is the one it came with.
What battery life do you get when you're actually using the phone?
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there are 2 kernels there.. just try to look harder, i get 12-15hrs heavy use which is more than enough for me

Was never able to find these other Kernels, but I did install Netarchy Toast. Installed versions 4.19 to try Collin's Battery Tweak, but could never get that tweak to work properly (it always has a process that uses a lot of CPU). Uninstalled that and tried version 4.2 ant that seems to be working OK (without the battery tweak).
So after a lot of testing and re-testing I've come to the conclusion that my crazy battery drain only happens whenever there's a "radio" on. CPU usage is not the main culprit in my case as even overclocking it doesn't drain it much if the radios are turned off. It doesn't matter if it's WIFI, 3G or 4G, if the phone is using any of this it drains very quickly. Thus the reason it acts good whenever is sleeping.
A perfect example of this is that I used Power Amp to play music from my music library (from my SD Card). Used it for like 4 hours and it drained the battery at a very reasonable pace, then I stopped that and started playing music using Pandora. Immediately the battery started to drain at about 1% rate every two minutes or so. I've read somewhere that using WIFI instead of 3G would save battery. Didn't seem to make a difference in my case as it drained at about the same rapid pace. Now if I have both on, then it gets even crazier.
So having found the culprits the question is whether there's anything that can be done to improve this. BTW I think I have the latest PRI (1.77_003), PRL (60671) and baseband (2.15.00.09.01) versions

Battery Life Testing - Kernel + Rom Combo's

Iv always considered battery life a very important factor in my purchasing of a phone and was one of the big reasons i moved from my Desire HD to the Nexus S (amongst many others). However having been on the android scene for a while im used to tinkering with kernels and roms etc and due to the new battery graph in gingerbread im now able to make direct comparisons rom by rom and kernel by kernel to see how they all differ. This is all shown + explained below.
First id like to explain my method;
I install the rom and kernel with the same apps I always use and charge the phone fully until i am about to go to sleep. I then unplug the phone and leave it in the exactly the same place on my desk with exactly the same settings (sync intervals etc) and i kill all apps before i leave it just to make sure the test is fair.
In the morning i then take a screen shot of the battery life over the period of usually 8 hours and will upload this for you to see. I then look at the over-night battery drain as a comparison on how good battery life is on specific roms and kernels.
Justification - Many of you may be thinking who cares about standby battery life? I care about the battery when im using it!?
Well although that's valid there are many reasons i have taken this approach;
1. It is completely fair i.e. no individual differences such as 'im a heavy user' but we all have different definitions of a 'heavy user'. This is eliminated by the fact the phone is not used and thus the same every time (no individual differences)
2. If a phone has severe battery drain during sleep general knowledge should dictate that battery drain should increase when the screen is on, cpu is working and your syncing your facebook wall, thus a direct correlation with sleep battery drain and usage drain should be apparent.
Therefore i have decided over the next few days/weeks etc i will upload on a regular basis a screenshot of the battery drain over night, along with the battery use details and screen on time etc etc. In addition to the rom and kernel info and i hope that over time this proves to be a very useful thread.
I have been doing this over the last few days on a less strict system and there have been some VERY interesting results which i will upload over the next few days.
(Just a final note iv never really done anything like this on xda before so if its a stupid idea then please tell me now so i dont waste my time doing it, however if people are really interested please let me know and il make sure i do my best!!)
Thanks for reading my extremely long post!
Bratfink
SCREENSHOT 1: This was using modacos custom rom r10 and the kernel that comes with it, i had quite a short sleep (about 6 hours) but the curve pretty much shows what the point im trying to make is. The battery life is great!!
SCREENSHOT 2: This is CM7 Nightly build 27# with Netarchy's latest 1.2.1 kernel and although i didnt use the screen once of charge for a few minutes as you can see once the screen was off battery life barely decreased and was over a long period of time.
If anyone wants me to test specific combos please let me know.

I'm actually looking forward to reading your results.
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Yep, this would actually be pretty useful. Good luck and good work!

i'm a sucker for these types of tests, always love doing them and seeing the results. post soon!

I like others will be keeping an interested eye on your findings.

Uploading pictures of modaco r10 with it's own original kernel today. Its an interesting result!
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I'm interested too.

Can u try modaco r10 with Netarchy 1.2.1 kernel.
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Iv always considered battery life a very important factor in my purchasing of a phone and was one of the big reasons i moved from my Desire HD to the Nexus S (amongst many others). However having been on the android scene for a while im used to tinkering with kernels and roms etc and due to the new battery graph in gingerbread im now able to make direct comparisons rom by rom and kernel by kernel to see how they all differ. This is all shown + explained below.
First id like to explain my method;
I install the rom and kernel with the same apps I always use and charge the phone fully until i am about to go to sleep. I then unplug the phone and leave it in the exactly the same place on my desk with exactly the same settings (sync intervals etc) and i kill all apps before i leave it just to make sure the test is fair.
In the morning i then take a screen shot of the battery life over the period of usually 8 hours and will upload this for you to see. I then look at the over-night battery drain as a comparison on how good battery life is on specific roms and kernels.
Justification - Many of you may be thinking who cares about standby battery life? I care about the battery when im using it!?
Well although that's valid there are many reasons i have taken this approach;
1. It is completely fair i.e. no individual differences such as 'im a heavy user' but we all have different definitions of a 'heavy user'. This is eliminated by the fact the phone is not used and thus the same every time (no individual differences)
2. If a phone has severe battery drain during sleep general knowledge should dictate that battery drain should increase when the screen is on, cpu is working and your syncing your facebook wall, thus a direct correlation with sleep battery drain and usage drain should be apparent.
Therefore i have decided over the next few days/weeks etc i will upload on a regular basis a screenshot of the battery drain over night, along with the battery use details and screen on time etc etc. In addition to the rom and kernel info and i hope that over time this proves to be a very useful thread.
I have been doing this over the last few days on a less strict system and there have been some VERY interesting results which i will upload over the next few days.
(Just a final note iv never really done anything like this on xda before so if its a stupid idea then please tell me now so i dont waste my time doing it, however if people are really interested please let me know and il make sure i do my best!!)
Thanks for reading my extremely long post!
Bratfink
SCREENSHOT 1: This was using modacos custom rom r10 and the kernel that comes with it, i had quite a short sleep (about 6 hours) but the curve pretty much shows what the point im trying to make is. The battery life is great!!
If anyone wants me to test specific combos please let me know.
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I'd be interested in seeing CM7, just whatever nightly build you manage to catch.

I don't think that result will give you precise result.
I found that statistic is wrong sometimes.
It is better to measure using "play video loop".
So, find a movie, set to the same brightness and play in loop?

gogol said:
I don't think that result will give you precise result.
I found that statistic is wrong sometimes.
It is better to measure using "play video loop".
So, find a movie, set to the same brightness and play in loop?
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Unfortunately that will not give you how well the rom does while it is idle.

I'm really looking forward to your results. My only issue with this phone is the battery life is terrible. I ordered an extended battery off Ebay 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive it. Never ordering anything from Hong Kong again!

Fuse8499 said:
I'm really looking forward to your results. My only issue with this phone is the battery life is terrible. I ordered an extended battery off Ebay 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive it. Never ordering anything from Hong Kong again!
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What were you using before that you consider this phone to have bad battery life? By far this phone has the best battery life of any Android device I've owned. If you want bad battery life, get an Evo. That is horrific battery life.

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Uploading pictures of modaco r10 with it's own original kernel today. Its an interesting result!
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I am looking forward to the rest of these, however just a quick question. What was your battery use like in that situation with the stock ROM? Just for reference, because I'm thinking I might switch to modaco soon. Thanks!

More soon
Iv got a few more screenies but it seems i may have to end this thread prematurely. Its the SNS or 2.3 but idle battery usage for me is pretty much identical no matter what the kernel or rom (il upload a CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.1 shot top op). This was unexpected on my behalf because with my DHD kernels and roms had a big impact on idle battery consumption. I have noticed however that without a full wipe when changing some kernels such as with M r10 idle battery life can increase drastically. I will continue for the next few days and if i dont see any big changes i may move method to a video loop or something of the sort.

Interesting find
I found out something today that may interest may of you. I was messing around with the sleep profiles on SetCpu with netarchys kernel and i found that its better to leave the range from 100-800 than 100-400 or less. This i believe is because when the phone is asleep and carries out a process it will be forced to clock to the maximum of 400mhz and then stay at that speed for 10 seconds, instead of say going up to 800mhz for 1-2 seconds to complete the same process. So a tip to you would be set your profile to 100-800mhz conservative and see what you get!

bratfink said:
I found out something today that may interest may of you. I was messing around with the sleep profiles on SetCpu with netarchys kernel and i found that its better to leave the range from 100-800 than 100-400 or less. This i believe is because when the phone is asleep and carries out a process it will be forced to clock to the maximum of 400mhz and then stay at that speed for 10 seconds, instead of say going up to 800mhz for 1-2 seconds to complete the same process. So a tip to you would be set your profile to 100-800mhz conservative and see what you get!
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This kinda enforces the point that SetCPU is useless for the NS unless you really want to overclock...
Any battery saving tactics used buy lowering screen off profiles are counteracted by the system process;( So i think in the context of battery life you are probably better to not use SetCPU
JD

bratfink said:
Iv got a few more screenies but it seems i may have to end this thread prematurely. Its the SNS or 2.3 but idle battery usage for me is pretty much identical no matter what the kernel or rom (il upload a CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.1 shot top op). This was unexpected on my behalf because with my DHD kernels and roms had a big impact on idle battery consumption. I have noticed however that without a full wipe when changing some kernels such as with M r10 idle battery life can increase drastically. I will continue for the next few days and if i dont see any big changes i may move method to a video loop or something of the sort.
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I would definitely move to a video loop or some other 'heavy use' task because when you think about it, not too much can really be changed when almost no power is being used in the first place.
You could also just mention your general feeling for the battery life of each rom, because quite often that is what I go by as my usage varies depending on a range of things (school day or weekend etc) .
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Could you please test modaco r10 with Netarchy's latest 1.2.1 kernel ?
I would love to see the difference between modaco's default kernel vs netarchy's kernel.

On CM nightly 13, I just went 11 hours and I'm at 90%. That's 1/2% an hour. Not bad. That is with stock kernel.
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Appropriate steps to a better battery life?

Hi everyone! Long time XDA reader and I've had my Evo rooted for months. Now I have been dealing with its "poor" battery life for a long time and not really thinking much of it till I finally decided that rooting has to have some advantage for this. I average about 6-7 hours then my phone dies...
After doing a little research I read some people getting 15-20+ hours out of their phone with heavy use...I was amazed...I decided to try to get better battery life on my phone and this is what I am trying right now. I just want to make sure I am on the right path with it and that I am not doing anything seriously wrong.
-I am trying Cynogens ROMs - CM7 I tried for a day and that gave me about 7 hours of battery life...still no real improvments. I am trying Cynogens 7 Nightly 12 now to see if that works.
-I am trying different Kernels. Been getting them on the HTC EVO kernels page. Right now I am using stock HTC one.
-Should I try different radios too? Where can I go to find different radios if so.
-What order should I be installing radios/kernels/roms?
-I have donated and am using Set CPU now also and have the screen off cpu power really low.
-Am I on the right path trying out different ROMS/ Kernels/ Radios to optimize my battery life? Is there anything else I can be trying?

turn off gps when not need
data when not needed

Check out my sig for my full walk-through on battery life (I don't want to repost it here lol).
But you seem to be doing everything okay. My only hesitation would be to say make sure you're giving Kernels adequate time to settle into your phone. Unless something is HORRIBLY wrong with them, you shouldn't switch/judge them until at least two days in
Radios should not make a difference in your battery life.
Also, be aware that CM is NOT optimized for battery life. There are a couple of ROMs that will give you unheard of battery life if you would like though (Myn's comes to mind). It's a trade off though. CM is hands down the fastest ROM you'll run...but in my experiences is in the lower tier of battery.
Hope that helps

also when the newest version of ultimate Juice is released that will help you i have the closed beta and im glad to have it back and running

@Cheesy: I turn off all those things If I turn off "data" that turns off Exchange push right? I really need that on all the time >_<
@Green: Really? Myns is good on battery life? I tried that before and was dieing with battery. (Was getting my average 6-7 hours) I had that one for about 2 weeks. Do you think it was my Kernels that were bad then? Isn't Myns warm 2 pt sense based? The one I used was...I had thought sense UI drained battery more than CM for example that is just plain stock android gingerbread?
@Cheesy again: Ultimate Juice? Is that an app on the mkt place? How much did it help you? I'm willing to donate and pay for apps to support the devs if they really make a noticeable difference.
Another thing..when you install a ROM does it automatically install a Kernel too? Or are those 2 separate?

syypher said:
@Cheesy: I turn off all those things If I turn off "data" that turns off Exchange push right? I really need that on all the time >_<
@Green: Really? Myns is good on battery life? I tried that before and was dieing with battery. (Was getting my average 6-7 hours) I had that one for about 2 weeks. Do you think it was my Kernels that were bad then? Isn't Myns warm 2 pt sense based? The one I used was...I had thought sense UI drained battery more than CM for example that is just plain stock android gingerbread?
@Cheesy again: Ultimate Juice? Is that an app on the mkt place? How much did it help you? I'm willing to donate and pay for apps to support the devs if they really make a noticeable difference.
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with UJ i get 18-19 or more on a full charge with phone being used 80% of the day .
with out i was changing out batteries after 9 hours or so ( i normally work 12 - 13 hours a day )
yes its in the market but gingerbread support is not public yet ( closed beta )
also check in spareparts for any wakelocks you might be having
for a sense rom myns are great so are Ava's,caulkins and Miks

Hmm Thanks Cheesy. I'll take a look at that.
So if I flash a ROM that is not Gingerbread...I can use that app. But Gingerbread is anything 2.0+ right?
I'll try out those ROMs too and different kernels...test them for 2-3 days.
Whats wake lock? I'll download that spare parts thing and see if I can figure it out.

I just recently started seeing great battery life with my rooted Evo. I flashed MikFroYo 4.5 with a stock htc kernal.
I use juice defender and that's it. I've been getting just over a day per charge for the past two weeks.
I wouldn't say that's with heavy use as a good 6-7 hours of that time are accounted for when I'm asleep. I do about 30-50 texts a day. About 10 minutes of calls and I check facebook and twitter all the time. My data use varies depending on the day but I do use youtube and pandora pretty regularly as well.

just make sure background data is disabled. accounts and sync>background data. I have no issues with battery life on stock sprint evo.
of course it is a 3500mah battery

My wife and I just bought two EVOs a week and a half ago, and I quickly became interested in improving the battery life on the phone. My first attempts were rooting my phone and installing OverClock Widget, and using minimal settings when the screen was off. With that change alone, and comparing to my wife's phone from a full overnight charge, my phone was able to make it 14-16 hours with moderate use. My wife's phone would die after 8-9 hours of moderate use. Granted, there's obviously going to be a difference between my moderate use and hers, but even testing with screens off and letting them idle for an hour, there was a definitive difference in battery consumption between our phones.
I went one step further and installed CM7 Nightly 12 just yesterday... already I'm noticing even further improvement in battery life, but the majority of those savings are when my phone is idle. Overnight, my battery only drained 7%, whereas my wife's drained much more than that. My battery has been at 39% for the past 3 hours at idle, so I imagine that with my version of "standard usage", I would be able to possibly get higher than 16 hours of usage per charge (can't wait until I do the full calculation testing tomorrow!).
Here are some observations I've had in all of this:
1) Check out Greenfieldan's list of battery tips and tricks. Some of these are very simple and actually had a significant impact on both my phone and my wife's phone (especially shutting off data and disabling auto-synch). I'm new to the forums, but this is one of the first things I checked out. This is a great place to start.
2) Battery consumption is obviously affected by how frequently you use your phone, and what you are doing with it. I say this because it's easy to read threads about what techniques work and see mixed results, but I don't see alot of people really admitting how much or how little they use their phones. I'd say I'm a more conservative user of my phone, but I still have my texting, browsing, and even occasional streaming, GPS using and general fiddling. So in other words, your mileage may vary with any given technique.
3) This is my personal opinion, but think about when you ideally want to be charging your phone, and try and anticipate usage around it. It sounds strange, but I've come to my own conclusion that an optimal charge for me (not necessarily possible, but optimal) will give either 12 or 36 hours of usage time. This is because I like to charge my phone overnight, so if I get 18 hours of battery life, I'm unfortunately wasting 4-6 of them. If I get 24 hours of usage, then that means that by the next morning, I need to charge again. So I plan ahead and charge at night, and use through the day. This was particularly useful when I first started with the phone and was getting a max of 8-9 hours. I'd know when to unplug, and how well it would get me through the day.
Anyway, at this point I'm rambling, but since it is still very fresh in my mind I wanted to share my thoughts. Hopefully this helps.
(Btw, apologies for the huge post!!)

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So if I flash a ROM that is not Gingerbread...I can use that app. But Gingerbread is anything 2.0+ right?
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Gingerbread is Android v2.3. Froyo is v2.2.

syypher said:
@Cheesy: I turn off all those things If I turn off "data" that turns off Exchange push right? I really need that on all the time >_<
@Green: Really? Myns is good on battery life? I tried that before and was dieing with battery. (Was getting my average 6-7 hours) I had that one for about 2 weeks. Do you think it was my Kernels that were bad then? Isn't Myns warm 2 pt sense based? The one I used was...I had thought sense UI drained battery more than CM for example that is just plain stock android gingerbread?
@Cheesy again: Ultimate Juice? Is that an app on the mkt place? How much did it help you? I'm willing to donate and pay for apps to support the devs if they really make a noticeable difference.
Another thing..when you install a ROM does it automatically install a Kernel too? Or are those 2 separate?
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Sorry it took me so long to reply.
Anyhow, from my testing on mine and three other phones Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo has the best battery life (although some of them were right on par with it). Specifically his RLS 3 and RLS 4. Did you try Warm Z? Because the battery life on that ROM is no where NEAR his 2.2 ROM.
Also, Sense CAN be a major drain on battery. If you make it so it's not syncing all the time/doing the random shenanigans it defaults to I'd argue it's better than AOSP (based on my experience with both).
Yes, your Kernel might have been an issue. Do you know which one you were using? HAVS? CFS? BFS? Etc.
Just for my phone comparison, CM7 (which I am running now) requires me to charge my phone at least once a day. Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo was every other day/every day and a half.

syypher said:
@Cheesy: I turn off all those things If I turn off "data" that turns off Exchange push right? I really need that on all the time.
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You can set juice defender to turn on data to sync at set intervals; anywhere from 15min to every couple of hours. If you can stand to wait 15 minutes for that email then I would recommend it. I personally like not being interrupted every time I get an email.
Also, make sure your kernel and setCPU aren't trying to both control the same thing. I really like using a kernel with HAVS so I avoid apps that also try to modulate my CPU.
I've tried warm 2.2 and really like it. Although I think I'm getting slightly better battery with Azrael X 4.0 with netarchy 4.3.1-cfs-havs-nosbc and ultimate juice controlling only my data and WiFi connections.
Also,the 3500mah battery is worth every penny if you don't mind the extra thickness.

i owe setcpu and screen off seting for my battery life

I read Greenfieldan's step on the forum here about a week ago, and jsut the HTC Method of battery calibration alone changed my battery life completely.
I also dumped Advanced Task Killer.
In another thread, I rad that CM is the worst drain on a battery and I personally think the guy that wrote that is sadly mistaken. Even with all the steps taken in Greenfieldan's guide, Sense based ROMs are battery killers. They are the worst, by far, and I average battery drain at about 15-20% pr hour, even with screen off.
The #2 killer, is having your screen on. Waiting for that next text to come in with the screen on is not worth it, so turn it off when you're not using it.
With the setup in my sig, and moderate to heavy use, in 12 hours, I only drop about 25% with a Sedio 3500maH battery.
With Sense, like I said, quick battery death.

I'm using CM7 - Nightly 12 right now + Stock Kernel...I also have set cpu to change cpu usage when screen is off.
This combo was my first combo I started trying (2 days ago when I posted this) to test for increased battery life. I followed what some of you guys suggested and let it "work into my phone." Instead of giving up after 1 day of test.
Results! Just yesterday I had my phone on for 14 hours and it was at 18%! That is a HUGE improvement. Right now it is at 65% and I've had it on for about 5 hours. That's really long compared to what it was before! Before I tried changing the ROM, kernel and using Set CPU I would be at the red right now or around 15%.
Thanks you guys for all the suggestions! Any further advice would be greatly appreciated! (Only sad thing is that my GPS doesn't work with CM7 - Nightly 12 >_<...) Other than that I love it!