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Ok, so what's the real word on the OTA for rooted users?

None of these random workarounds posted in the dev section by random users who just seem to be guessing at things. Is there any word from a real dev working on allowing currently rooted users to install the OTA without un-rooting or flashing things through fastboot? Either by modifying the .zip itself or by creating a method to flash the provided .zip? I'm tired of seeing posts that read along the lines of "Oh, do this in post X then this in post Y and it SHOULD work, but if it doesn't check post Z and hope things work after that."

Download the nandroid backup that was posted. Restore it using Clockwork, then while still in recovery, choose mounts, and then mount /system, then flash the superuser zip from Koush's rooting tutorial, then you will have the OTA stock + rooted + stock recovery + stock boot + everything.
This is how I was able to upgrade.

Anderdroid said:
Download the nandroid backup that was posted. Restore it using Clockwork, then while still in recovery, choose mounts, and then mount /system, then flash the superuser zip from Koush's rooting tutorial, then you will have the OTA stock + rooted + stock recovery + stock boot + everything.
This is how I was able to upgrade.
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Yes, but I don't want stock recovery. I want to keep ClockworkMod.

Anderdroid said:
Download the nandroid backup that was posted. Restore it using Clockwork, then while still in recovery, choose mounts, and then mount /system, then flash the superuser zip from Koush's rooting tutorial, then you will have the OTA stock + rooted + stock recovery + stock boot + everything.
This is how I was able to upgrade.
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Will that wipe everything?

rashad1 said:
Will that wipe everything?
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Yes. You're restoring a nandroid.

Read this post, pretty much you're rerooting again and another step so it doesn't keep going back to stock recovery. Easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10029098&postcount=2

nxt said:
Read this post, pretty much you're rerooting again and another step so it doesn't keep going back to stock recovery. Easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10029098&postcount=2
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Lemmie reemphasize what I said earlier...
TheBiles said:
None of these random workarounds posted in the dev section by random users who just seem to be guessing at things. Is there any word from a real dev working on allowing currently rooted users to install the OTA without un-rooting or flashing things through fastboot? Either by modifying the .zip itself or by creating a method to flash the provided .zip? I'm tired of seeing posts that read along the lines of "Oh, do this in post X then this in post Y and it SHOULD work, but if it doesn't check post Z and hope things work after that."
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TheBiles said:
Lemmie reemphasize what I said earlier...
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Well you know what? It only takes a minute or two and it's done.

TheBiles said:
Yes, but I don't want stock recovery. I want to keep ClockworkMod.
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From the nandroid backup OP:
"Edit: According to xda member Luxferro the new update introduced /etc/install-recovery which may have not been in 2.3, but anyways, it runs this on bootup, and if the MD5 of the recovery doesn't match what is expected, it reflashes the stock recovery back over, so if you dont want the stock recovery to be flashed everytime you boot if your on clockwork or another non stock rom, just rename it to prevent it from running on boot. And for those of you who want to return your phone back to stock this nandroid will do that for you since it also flashes the stock recovery."

Just wipe and flash Paul's Gingerbread ROM.

TheBiles said:
Lemmie reemphasize what I said earlier...
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Pretty much every time you flash an OTA update you're gonna lose root.
If someone took the time to modify the OTA update so you don't lose root, then it's not an OTA update anymore

irishrally said:
Just wipe and flash Paul's Gingerbread ROM.
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Ended up doing this.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

2.3.3 Link

Full Rom link
http://android.clients.google.com/p...2cf141e6a.signed-soju-ota-102588.f182cf14.zip (89.9 MB)
Link for GRH78C
http://android.clients.google.com/p...9e.signed-soju-GRI40-from-GRH78C.98f3836c.zip
Link for GRH78 only
http://android.clients.google.com/p...2bf.signed-soju-GRI40-from-GRH78.e0b546c4.zip
As posted here by Matrik: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11616226&postcount=389
I figured I'd get this unburied for everyone interested (which is likely a lot of folks).
If you're stock and unrooted - download this and place it on the root of the SD card - named update.zip. Boot into recovery. Hold Pwr and then Vol up and then choose to apply update.zip.

just got it on mine too.
does anyone know if this build is still rootable in the same method of 2.3.2? just curious

krohnjw said:
http://android.clients.google.com/p...2bf.signed-soju-GRI40-from-GRH78.e0b546c4.zip
As posted here by Matrik: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11616226&postcount=389
I figured I'd get this unburied for everyone interested (which is likely a lot of folks).
Also Mirrored if the download breaks for some reason:
http://hotfile.com/dl/107285073/f39f21c/e0b546c442bf.signed-soju-GRI40-from-GRH78.e0b546c4.zip.html
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WOW - didn't think I'd see this so soon - thanks for digging it out man.
Guess I'll be the guinea pig

jaker.the.skater said:
just got it on mine too.
does anyone know if this build is still rootable in the same method of 2.3.2? just curious
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If your bootloader is unlocked then rooting is as easy as flashing CWM and flashing the SU binary.
If the bootloader is locked then the changelog indicates that you will not longer be able to use fastboot boot to load CWM and root that way.
With that said, I applied a lot of updates on my Nexus One without losing root and kept the boot loader locked the whole time. You'll need to pay attention, but you should be able to do the following.
Download the SU binary zip and place that on the SD card.
The OTA will not overwrite CWM until it actually boots. So, after you apply the OTA boot directly into recovery and apply the SU zip. This will give you root. (Just pay attention and hold vol up when it goes to reboot)
When you subsequently load up android CWM will be overwritten. At this point you can use the flash_image binary to manually flash CWM to recovery (or potentially ROM Manager).

ok my bootloader is unlocked. so basically i just do like before where you rename the install recovery.sh file so that cwm sticks? if so then cool beans.

jaker.the.skater said:
ok my bootloader is unlocked. so basically i just do like before where you rename the install recovery.sh file so that cwm sticks? if so then cool beans.
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Yes sir. 10 chars

very cool.

Can i dowload this on a stock Ns
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

doesnt work for me - failed at file_getprop("/system/build.prop"
this update seems to be for build GRH78 - GRI40 ie 2.3.1 to 2.3.3
Im on 2.3.2 .......
any idea's???

moon-unit said:
doesnt work for me - failed at file_getprop("/system/build.prop"
this update seems to be for build GRH78 - GRI40 ie 2.3.1 to 2.3.3
Im on 2.3.2 .......
any idea's???
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same here..... hmmm

krohnjw said:
If your bootloader is unlocked then rooting is as easy as flashing CWM and flashing the SU binary.
If the bootloader is locked then the changelog indicates that you will not longer be able to use fastboot boot to load CWM and root that way.
With that said, I applied a lot of updates on my Nexus One without losing root and kept the boot loader locked the whole time. You'll need to pay attention, but you should be able to do the following.
Download the SU binary zip and place that on the SD card.
The OTA will not overwrite CWM until it actually boots. So, after you apply the OTA boot directly into recovery and apply the SU zip. This will give you root. (Just pay attention and hold vol up when it goes to reboot)
When you subsequently load up android CWM will be overwritten. At this point you can use the flash_image binary to manually flash CWM to recovery (or potentially ROM Manager).
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So what your saying is we can ( Possibly ) install 2.3.3 via the link with rooted devices with an unlocked bootloader ( if the 2.3.3 does not lock bootloader / root ) and then just re install superuser e.c.t and were away ?

Same here, update fails. I am on 2.3.2 and Stock non-rooted.

hutzdani said:
So what your saying is we can ( Possibly ) install 2.3.3 via the link with rooted devices with an unlocked bootloader ( if the 2.3.3 does not lock bootloader / root ) and then just re install superuser e.c.t and were away ?
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Yes - if you're unlocked then you'll only need to remove the isntall-recovery.sh and reflash CWM/su and you're golden.
It's a bit trickier for users who rooted without unlocking the boot loader and do not want to unlock at this point.
Looks like this is for GRH78, NOT GRH78C- we'll have to wait for that package still.

Update is for build number GRH78 only :-(

Wow!
Thx)

SupaDupaFly24 said:
Update is for build number GRH78 only :-(
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Yeah, that is, only for 2.3.1 until now.
We'll have to wait for the GRH78C (2.3.2) build update.

this really pisses me off. i was on 2.3.2 and i got the ota but when i tried to install it from cwm it didn't work. so then when i saw this one i gave up on the one i had and now its gone. turns out i should've just did a logcat and got the one for 2.3.2.
oh well it'll be up soon

Sweet. I was trying to get to stock ROM and i was on 2.3.1
2.3.3 Flashed just perfectly

I did a nandroid backup to 2.3.1 and then installed the update and it worked fine.

Please, Could you make step by step guide, how to apply update from that link on stock, nonroot device. Thanks.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

going to run over my friend's mytouch

So, he's running a custom ROM right now, the latest desire hd port, GB, etc.
Well, most everything else needs CWM 3.006 or whatever. So, I'm trying to flash that. BUT, his phone acts as if he doesn't have root. I't S-offed and has "su" (the app) but it just doesn't work.
Tried flashing cwm with fastboot, "permission denied"
Idk what else to do
Regards
Smith

smithisize said:
So, he's running a custom ROM right now, the latest desire hd port, GB, etc.
Well, most everything else needs CWM 3.006 or whatever. So, I'm trying to flash that. BUT, his phone acts as if he doesn't have root. I't S-offed and has "su" (the app) but it just doesn't work.
Tried flashing cwm with fastboot, "permission denied"
Idk what else to do
Regards
Smith
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doubt its bricked...(its not bricked if you can get to the bootloader
what h-boot version do you have?
use the PD15IMG.zip to restore your phone

VibrantOwnr said:
what h-boot version do you have?
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86.0.0.0 i believe... I followed the perm root tut before flashing this custom ROM, then he messed it up..

smithisize said:
86.0.0.0 i believe... I followed the perm root tut before flashing this custom ROM, then he messed it up..
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i dont think you can flash using fastboot in .86.
if it wont boot to the rom try the PD15IMG.zip file to restore
if it boots to the rom, go back to the true s-off/permroot guide in the development section and flash your bootloader (there is directions at the bottom of the first post (the post with the instructions))
After that it should work for fastboot
You can alternatively flash recovery through rom manager (off of the market..the free version will do)

VibrantOwnr said:
i dont think you can flash using fastboot in .86.
if it wont boot to the rom try the PD15IMG.zip file to restore
if it boots to the rom, go back to the true s-off/permroot guide in the development section and flash your bootloader (there is directions at the bottom of the first post (the post with the instructions))
After that it should work for fastboot
You can alternatively flash recovery through rom manager (off of the market..the free version will do)
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ROM Manager didn't work (again, couldn't obtain permissions).
So, I'm going to flash the ROM, hope for the best, then if $*&^ hits the fan, I'll result to flashing a diff bootloader.
Thanks for your advice, didn't think about flashing a diff booloader... used to my Cappy xD
Regards
Smith

have you tried using TrueBlue's recovery .zip it was the only way I could get either of my phones to take 3.0.0.6
HERE is the thread for it

Well, I flashed regardless of the 3006 req, and it went fine... Whatever lol.
thanks for the help and suggestions
Regards
Smith

If you have S-Off and Updated via OTA

If you have S-Off and Updated via OTA
Here is the Most Current Amon Ra Recovery
Amon Ra Recovery 2.3
Place PC36IMG.zip on the root of your sd card.
Boot the phone into the bootloader by powering the phone down, then press the power and the volume down buttons at the same time.
Once the phone boots into the bootloader the phone will automatically recognize the zip file. It will ask if you would like to update, select yes and let it do it's thing and you will be good to go
After this you can Flash any Rom of your Choosing and get Super user and Buzy Box back...
What does that Mean you will be Rooted Again
Just make sure you use a Custom Rom or Stock De-odexed or Odexed Rom

I have s-off but I can't go into recovery

jonathan413 said:
I have s-off but I can't go into recovery
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Did you take the OTA already? If so, you no longer have recovery. As the OP stated, since you still have S-off, you just need to reflash your recovery. Download a PC36IMG of Amon Ra's recovery, and flash it with your bootloader. Then you'll have recovery.

Download Amon RA PC36IMG.zip and install it to the root of your SD card, Then boot into Recovery "Pull the Battery hold the Volume Down Button and Press Power"
The PC36IMG.ZIP should start to read by the recovery it will say update recovery follow what it says it should say up to install down for no, let it finish then after that you can install any rom of your choosing

Idk..every time I put the file on the root of the sdcard it never reads it..even on the older bootloaders.

it is named PC36IMG.zip right if so the bootloader should automatically start reading it you should see a progress bar on the top right of the screen
Here is the Most Current Amon Ra Recovery
Amon Ra Recovery 2.3

Yea its named right..I don't even touch the file I just drop it on the root of the sd but nothing gets read when I go to bootloader

In my previous post i linked the Recovery but here it is again
Here is the Most Current Amon Ra Recovery
Amon Ra Recovery 2.3
Place PC36IMG.zip on the root of your sd card.
Boot the phone into the bootloader by powering the phone down, then press the power and the volume down buttons at the same time.
Once the phone boots into the bootloader the phone will automatically recognize the zip file. It will ask if you would like to update, select yes and let it do it's thing and you will be good to go

Still doesn't work Idk..maybe its the sdcard but I have two sdcards and both are doing the same thing

when you boot to the bootloader does it Say S-Off or S-On

To disable fastboot in ota
Go to settings
Then applications
And disable fastboot
This should allow you to get back into the bootloader
Hope this helps

echarette1 said:
To disable fastboot in ota
Go to settings
Then applications
And disable fastboot
This should allow you to get back into the bootloader
Hope this helps
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Did it and still a no go

kingakuma said:
when you boot to the bootloader does it Say S-Off or S-On
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It says s-off

kingakuma said:
If you have S-Off and Updated via OTA
Here is the Most Current Amon Ra Recovery
Amon Ra Recovery 2.3
Place PC36IMG.zip on the root of your sd card.
Boot the phone into the bootloader by powering the phone down, then press the power and the volume down buttons at the same time.
Once the phone boots into the bootloader the phone will automatically recognize the zip file. It will ask if you would like to update, select yes and let it do it's thing and you will be good to go
After this you can Flash any Rom of your Choosing and get Super user and Buzy Box back...
What does that Mean you will be Rooted Again
Just make sure you use a Custom Rom or Stock De-odexed or Odexed Rom
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I can personally verify that this works.

animal7296 said:
I can personally verify that this works.
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I wonder why my bootloader doesn't read the file

jonathan413 said:
I wonder why my bootloader doesn't read the file
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Had that problem on a friends evo. Had to use a bigger sd cardto get it to read it.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App

jonathan413 said:
Yea its named right..I don't even touch the file I just drop it on the root of the sd but nothing gets read when I go to bootloader
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Are you sure you are s-off?

Stuke00 said:
Are you sure you are s-off?
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Lol I'm positive

After turning off fastboot, did you power off the phone and pull the battery to ensure it did a complete power down? Its only a guess, shouldn't bee behaving like thus if s-off.

echarette1 said:
After turning off fastboot, did you power off the phone and pull the battery to ensure it did a complete power down? Its only a guess, shouldn't bee behaving like thus if s-off.
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Yea did that too

Little bit confused

I've been looking at the threads but so far I don't believe there's one that tells you what to do if you've actually installed the official OTA update?
I.e. I have an rooted 2.3.4 GT-I9023 with an unlocked bootloader. With no clockwork or anything, as to be honest the last time I used it (on my old HTC DHD) it made my phone unstable (the phone would sometimes boot up of its own accord and stop at the clockwork screen).
Does anyone know how to re-root the NS after it's installed the official OTA update without clockwork?
Thanks
Edit: Downloading the OTA update won't relock the boot-loader will it?

dccxviii said:
I've been looking at the threads but so far I don't believe there's one that tells you what to do if you've actually installed the official OTA update?
I.e. I have an rooted 2.3.4 GT-I9023 with an unlocked bootloader. With no clockwork or anything, as to be honest the last time I used it (on my old HTC DHD) it made my phone unstable (the phone would sometimes boot up of its own accord and stop at the clockwork screen).
Does anyone know how to re-root the NS after it's installed the official OTA update without clockwork?
Thanks
Edit: Downloading the OTA update won't relock the boot-loader will it?
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You cannot get root back without a custom recovery. OTA will not relock the bootloader, you'll just lose root and custom recovery.
You need to flash custom recovery using fastboot, then flash superuser to get root back. There are plenty of guides in the stickies describing the process.

Ok, so i'm updated to 2.3.6 but of course have lost root (never had CWM to begin with on this phone). Anyone know where I can DL CWM (i'm assuming it needs to be flashed via platform-tools directory in the android sdk per normal) and the latest su file?
EDIT: nvm, I found the latest CWM and successful flashed (my method was correct). However I've not been able to find the latest superuser.zip to flash yet. Also, I don't know why ppl say to use the market as I don't see how that method can work. I've already got superuser installed from before I updated but that doesn't help me get root. Only flashing the zip from recovery (as I understand it) would. Which renders the market useless in this regard.
/confused

The superuser app checks to see if you have the latest superuser binary and will download and instalk it. Or download superuser from within rom manager.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium

Ok..the binary update fails (because i don't have root) so it's chicken and egg as far as I can tell.

You where already told. Flash custom recovery via fastboot. Boot into it and flash su.zip Same way it was done prior to update to the ota. Same as it always was and will be.

dccxviii said:
Ok, so i'm updated to 2.3.6 but of course have lost root (never had CWM to begin with on this phone). Anyone know where I can DL CWM (i'm assuming it needs to be flashed via platform-tools directory in the android sdk per normal) and the latest su file?
EDIT: nvm, I found the latest CWM and successful flashed (my method was correct). However I've not been able to find the latest superuser.zip to flash yet. Also, I don't know why ppl say to use the market as I don't see how that method can work. I've already got superuser installed from before I updated but that doesn't help me get root. Only flashing the zip from recovery (as I understand it) would. Which renders the market useless in this regard.
/confused
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You can find superuser zip here:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?231-Superuser-2.3.6.3-17-June-2011&
3rd one down, efgh.
Flash in custom recovery.

albundy2010 said:
You where already told. Flash custom recovery via fastboot. Boot into it and flash su.zip Same way it was done prior to update to the ota. Same as it always was and will be.
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You've misunderstood what i'm after. Thanks for trying to help tho
irishrally said:
You can find superuser zip here:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?231-Superuser-2.3.6.3-17-June-2011&
3rd one down, efgh.
Flash in custom recovery.
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Thanks! As far as I can tell you're the first with the link I was after the entire time.
EDIT: Bah, I get a signature verification error when applying the update >.<

dccxviii said:
You've misunderstood what i'm after. Thanks for trying to help tho
Thanks! As far as I can tell you're the first with the link I was after the entire time.
EDIT: Bah, I get a signature verification error when applying the update >.<
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Turn off signature verification in CWM and try again.

irishrally said:
Turn off signature verification in CWM and try again.
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Turns out that CWM got overwritten by stock android recovery. Re-flashing CWM and then flashing su did the trick. I'm rooted once more!
Thanks for your help kind sir!
Curious as to how to make CWM stick for next time tho *shrug*

dccxviii said:
Turns out that CWM got overwritten by stock android recovery. Re-flashing CWM and then flashing su did the trick. I'm rooted once more!
Thanks for your help kind sir!
Curious as to how to make CWM stick for next time tho *shrug*
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You're welcome.
If you stick with a stock ROM then recovery will reflash every time you reboot. To prevent this you can go to system>etc, and change the file install-recovery.init to something else like install-recovery.init.bak.