Hello people, I have been playing around with PDAs for a while, my first device was a BlueAngel waaay back when... my last device has been a hero for about 2 years now.
I have recently replaced my old hero with a new one that came with 2.1 from the factory -I suppose- my questions/comments/concerns are:
is there such a thing as too much flashing that can mess up a device? I know that there were 2 versions of the hero out there one with no "With Google" and one with "with google" and there were some diferences between them when you flash stuff,
My last hero was a "with google" but came with the 1.56 whenever I installed 2.1 on it it just went crazy, very very laggy could not make a phone call to save my life. if I flashed any of the 2.2 from cyanogen or anyone else the device worked perfect, it was only when I flashed a Sense 2.1 rom that the device went absolutely crazy. don't know why... apparently no one knows... i guess...
this last hero that I got came with 2.1 from sprint. the device worked AWESOME super fast and could actually make a phone call. so I really think that there is a hardware issue that HTC/Sprint resolved but they wont admit to it... I can see absolutely NO difference between the devices or the ROMS that i flashed on them. its just a big mystery that one device works with sense 2.1 and one does not. until yesterday...
yesterday morning I woke up and my device was out of battery, really odd because It was fully charged when I went to sleep. and I noticed that the device started to behave the same way that my old Hero did with 2.1 could not get it to call anyone or text or anything if you press a key it takes 10 min to respond. and until right now I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY! it was working PERFECT super fast and now its not. I flashed NFX Sprint 2.31.651.7 STOCK Deoxed/Odex Update3.1 on wednsday of last week and it was working AWESOME, GREAT WORK nfinitefx45, then it just quit. working awesome 1 day, next week its crap.
so I was wondering if TOO Much flashing brakes the circuits or something (I cant imagine how or why) but maybe its just the ghost in the machine. it was working great!!! im extremely baffled by this. maybe its because some if the flashing I did was with the battery under 30% but I cant imagine this braking it either, maybe the I/O operations check fail when the battery is under 30% and you permanently brake it, i don't know. another thing i noticed is that it queries the network ALL DAY LONG it tries to synch all day long with my gmail account, which it never does, I cant see my contacts. that's why it was out of battery next morning. maybe too much flashing brakes the radio?
today i noticed that it wanted to go out and get 2.32 and update, maybe that's why it was querying the network so much, so I went back to stock 2.31 because it wont update if you have a recovery image, and let it run the update.
nothing. still lags a lot, cant place a phone call or anything.... I am really ready to throw myself out the window cuz I cannot figure it out, maybe I did damage the Hardware some how...
does anyone have any ideas? or has anyone experienced this ??
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Hello people, I have been playing around with PDAs for a while, my first device was a BlueAngel waaay back when... my last device has been a hero for about 2 years now.
I have recently replaced my old hero with a new one that came with 2.1 from the factory -I suppose- my questions/comments/concerns are:
is there such a thing as too much flashing that can mess up a device? I know that there were 2 versions of the hero out there one with no "With Google" and one with "with google" and there were some diferences between them when you flash stuff,
My last hero was a "with google" but came with the 1.56 whenever I installed 2.1 on it it just went crazy, very very laggy could not make a phone call to save my life. if I flashed any of the 2.2 from cyanogen or anyone else the device worked perfect, it was only when I flashed a Sense 2.1 rom that the device went absolutely crazy. don't know why... apparently no one knows... i guess...
this last hero that I got came with 2.1 from sprint. the device worked AWESOME super fast and could actually make a phone call. so I really think that there is a hardware issue that HTC/Sprint resolved but they wont admit to it... I can see absolutely NO difference between the devices or the ROMS that i flashed on them. its just a big mystery that one device works with sense 2.1 and one does not. until yesterday...
yesterday morning I woke up and my device was out of battery, really odd because It was fully charged when I went to sleep. and I noticed that the device started to behave the same way that my old Hero did with 2.1 could not get it to call anyone or text or anything if you press a key it takes 10 min to respond. and until right now I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY! it was working PERFECT super fast and now its not. I flashed NFX Sprint 2.31.651.7 STOCK Deoxed/Odex Update3.1 on wednsday of last week and it was working AWESOME, GREAT WORK nfinitefx45, then it just quit. working awesome 1 day, next week its crap.
so I was wondering if TOO Much flashing brakes the circuits or something (I cant imagine how or why) but maybe its just the ghost in the machine. it was working great!!! im extremely baffled by this. maybe its because some if the flashing I did was with the battery under 30% but I cant imagine this braking it either, maybe the I/O operations check fail when the battery is under 30% and you permanently brake it, i don't know. another thing i noticed is that it queries the network ALL DAY LONG it tries to synch all day long with my gmail account, which it never does, I cant see my contacts. that's why it was out of battery next morning. maybe too much flashing brakes the radio?
today i noticed that it wanted to go out and get 2.32 and update, maybe that's why it was querying the network so much, so I went back to stock 2.31 because it wont update if you have a recovery image, and let it run the update.
nothing. still lags a lot, cant place a phone call or anything.... I am really ready to throw myself out the window cuz I cannot figure it out, maybe I did damage the Hardware some how...
does anyone have any ideas? or has anyone experienced this ??
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Are you currently rooted?
yeah im rooted, but it happens when rooted and on stock 2.31 and now 2.32
SysCrasher13 said:
yeah im rooted, but it happens when rooted and on stock 2.31 and now 2.32
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Go to CM.... it's android 2.2, and there's really no issues with it. It's fast, looks good if you apply a theme, and takes care of all the sense bloat
I have run BLACKMOD_21NOV and it runs great, thats kinda my point, why does it run great on 2.2 and it sucks on sense 2.1, when it came from sprint it was running great on sense 2.1 and now its just crap. I think i might have done something to the hardware because of too much flashing Lol!!! i dont know...
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I have run BLACKMOD_21NOV and it runs great, thats kinda my point, why does it run great on 2.2 and it sucks on sense 2.1, when it came from sprint it was running great on sense 2.1 and now its just crap. I think i might have done something to the hardware because of too much flashing Lol!!! i dont know...
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No, that won't damage the hardware.... Sprint HTC sense for the hero is slow and buggy, just kind of the way it is
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I have run BLACKMOD_21NOV and it runs great, thats kinda my point, why does it run great on 2.2 and it sucks on sense 2.1, when it came from sprint it was running great on sense 2.1 and now its just crap. I think i might have done something to the hardware because of too much flashing Lol!!! i dont know...
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Yeah theres no way to much flashing could possibly break your phone or make it laggy or etc. If that was the case then my phone would have exploded by now as i had my hero since launch date and it has been flashed almost over 1000 times maybe with different roms and radios and other mods and hacks lol. As impaler said sense is great but our heros just are old technology even with an over clocked processor and mods I still dont think its just good enough for sense. Sense runs perfect on a faster phone like an EVO. I used LiquidSense even with all the bloat removed it just wasnt fast enough for my taste, great rom though. Vanilla is just your best bet for the hero and its old hardware it works fast enough and stable. Dirk
yeah it was slow, but I using [email protected] #43 691mhz and it was running great! fast, stable then it broke! hahahaha, any ways thanks for your input. Im gonna mess around some more if not im gonna take it back and probably get the EVO, that sucks cuz I really like the hero, evo is just to dang big! Lol !
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yeah it was slow, but I using [email protected] #43 691mhz and it was running great! fast, stable then it broke! hahahaha, any ways thanks for your input. Im gonna mess around some more if not im gonna take it back and probably get the EVO, that sucks cuz I really like the hero, evo is just to dang big! Lol !
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Man evo is a little too big for me, as my upgrade is december 1st and my palms are itching for a new phone, its either the evo or samsung epic (which is so sick) but i hear theres other phones coming out before the end of the year. Maybe you could wait a little i hear theres another phone coming out with evo specs and the size or a nexus one, i think its called the HTC KNIGHT or something. Good luck but you might not want to stick with the hero too long if you have the option of taking it back.
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Man evo is a little too big for me, as my upgrade is december 1st and my palms are itching for a new phone, its either the evo or samsung epic (which is so sick) but i hear theres other phones coming out before the end of the year. Maybe you could wait a little i hear theres another phone coming out with evo specs and the size or a nexus one, i think its called the HTC KNIGHT or something. Good luck but you might not want to stick with the hero too long if you have the option of taking it back.
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Yup, I'm interested in the HTC Knight as well
I forgot to mention that the data keeps connecting and disconnecting and that slows down the device downloading ROM Manager from the market took like 45 min because it was sooo sloow. I dont know if that matters... maybe I'll update my prl and profile..
Yeah I really like the samsung also, but I think that HTC are just more customizable and theres a great comunity out there hacking and craking these devices, the KNIGHT looks sweet!!! yeah Im not going to hang on to the Hero much longer, Im due for an update and I think im gonna get the evo...
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I forgot to mention that the data keeps connecting and disconnecting and that slows down the device downloading ROM Manager from the market took like 45 min because it was sooo sloow. I dont know if that matters... maybe I'll update my prl and profile..
Yeah I really like the samsung also, but I think that HTC are just more customizable and theres a great comunity out there hacking and craking these devices, the KNIGHT looks sweet!!! yeah Im not going to hang on to the Hero much longer, Im due for an update and I think im gonna get the evo...
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Yup, can't wait for dual core either!
Rumor says that the Knight/Evo Shift could possibly ship as a dual core. We shall see.
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/22/htc-knightevo-shift-4g-passes-fcc/
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
user7618 said:
Rumor says that the Knight/Evo Shift could possibly ship as a dual core. We shall see.
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/22/htc-knightevo-shift-4g-passes-fcc/
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
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Saw that, want something better though
theimpaler747 said:
Saw that, want something better though
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Meh, I got plenty of time. My 1 year isn't until middle of April, so I would expect to have monsters roaming around by then.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
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Meh, I got plenty of time. My 1 year isn't until middle of April, so I would expect to have monsters roaming around by then.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
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Lol, it takes all my willpower to hold off from buying an Evo... but I will prevail!!
after much time spent trying to figure out, i think the problem with it being slow is that its always trying to sync gmail email, contacts and calendar, it doesn't stop syncing ever, thats why im runnign out of battery, anyone have any ideas ??? or know why?
SysCrasher13 said:
after much time spent trying to figure out, i think the problem with it being slow is that its always trying to sync gmail email, contacts and calendar, it doesn't stop syncing ever, thats why im runnign out of battery, anyone have any ideas ??? or know why?
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Just disable auto-sync, that's what I do. I only allow it to auto-sync contacts
the thing is that it never finishes sync, so I dont have any contacts, email ok but contacts no. hahaha im going nuts... thanks for your advice dude, also I tried flashing your Impaled Blue!!!! theme over blackmod21nov and it gets stuck your splash screen... to be exact i flashed ImpaledBlue-signed.zip and wont move past tux splash screen...
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the thing is that it never finishes sync, so I dont have any contacts, email ok but contacts no. hahaha im going nuts... thanks for your advice dude, also I tried flashing your Impaled Blue!!!! theme over blackmod21nov and it gets stuck your splash screen... to be exact i flashed ImpaledBlue-signed.zip and wont move past tux splash screen...
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Have you tried wiping data and cache on the Google apps?
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Has just been the absolute worse, I really wish core features worked faster such as accessing the dialer and all but my phone is lagging and force closing to the high heavens.
I have Taskiller, Advanced Task Killer, And Command Tab to stop apps running in the background.
On Cyans latest stable build with a smorg theme, apps2sd, no swapper or anything beyond that.
Whenever I text it lags behind a lot and commonly disrupts my sentence by opening the fancy input selection for letters. I believe this feature is accessed by holding the space down and a letter, I'm not sure anymore though.
But my last complaint lately is that my Gmail messages haven't been sending! :[
I really like my phone I do, but I need some help or advice.
My battery life also only last 4 hours and I barley use the thing.
I tried to call Tmobile about a new battery but they said my 6 months were up and they never have given my family **** so what should I do, I post a lot at Androidcommunity.com and I've been suggested to trying to get a replacement g1.
What lie should I accumulate?
And I know to set my phone back to stock when I send it back in.
Call them and tell them it wont cut on when you woke up, then if they choose to send you a new one just brick it.
hi,well not sure on whats going on sounds like alot .have you tried to wipe and reflash the rom? how long have you been running the rom before you notice this stuff going on ?i wouldnt think the theme is messing with the rom .but you might want to try to wipe and reflash,run the rom by itself with no theme and see if you get the issues fixed or not .as for the battery call htc they should replace it.they will be able to tell you how much longer your phone is under warranty .the number is 1 888 716 3594 in u.s.a after you try all that and phone still does it i would play dumb ,call t mobile and try to get a replacment.if you have trouble with tmobile just call the htc number i gave you and see if they will replace it for ya .goodluck
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Has just been the absolute worse, I really wish core features worked faster such as accessing the dialer and all but my phone is lagging and force closing to the high heavens.
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Have you considered returning to stock?
What lie should I accumulate?
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The propensity of xda-dev users to resort to lying to get what they wish really makes me sad.
jashsu said:
Have you considered returning to stock?
The propensity of xda-dev users to resort to lying to get what they wish really makes me sad.
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Yes I have considered going back to stock, I tried once but I couldn't manage to find the right link from rc.29 to 1.5 firmware. But I decided if it was stock I really wouldn't enjoy my phone.
Don't be sad buddy, if anything be upset over T mobile selling a beta tester phone at such a high price and then not providing a decent way to upgrade to a more well rounded device.
lucky 69 said:
hi,well not sure on whats going on sounds like alot .have you tried to wipe and reflash the rom? how long have you been running the rom before you notice this stuff going on ?i wouldnt think the theme is messing with the rom .but you might want to try to wipe and reflash,run the rom by itself with no theme and see if you get the issues fixed or not .as for the battery call htc they should replace it.they will be able to tell you how much longer your phone is under warranty .the number is 1 888 716 3594 in u.s.a after you try all that and phone still does it i would play dumb ,call t mobile and try to get a replacment.if you have trouble with tmobile just call the htc number i gave you and see if they will replace it for ya .goodluck
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Yea I generally run into just about every problem you could imagine with my g1 lol but I love the device and I always manage to fix it, I re downloaded Cyans 4.0.4 and flashed it then added the x theme and it started working again, mind you I also re synced, and di a few other things here and there.
My current set up is pretty nice though and the device is running smooth and wonderfully thanks for the advice and help :]
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But I decided if it was stock I really wouldn't enjoy my phone.
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That's funny, because I didn't get the impression that you were currently enjoying your modified phone from the first post... could just be me
Don't be sad buddy, if anything be upset over T mobile selling a beta tester phone at such a high price and then not providing a decent way to upgrade to a more well rounded device.
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The only thing more painful to listen to than a bald-faced lie is the justification for it. ::gets off soapbox now::
Roms slow down over time as **** piles on the phone, <most of us don't notice cause we flash too much> just time for some good old spring cleaning
Damn, I hate cleaning. Maybe I can get david's busload of ninjas to come clean for me, this place is a mess
Hi, I made the smorg theme. The last release I did was for CM 4.0.3 not for 4.0.4. That may have something to do with your phone slowing down.
My G1 has been doing that lately. It has been really lagging. But what I did was deleted all my texts which were like 4000 ( i forgot I had so many) my call log and I also deleted apps I didnt use much and it instnatly improved.
im still using pancake 1.5, why you ask? because i want to wait until the final sprint release of 2.1 comes out and we get a custom rom fully working and bug free. plus i have my phone customized the way i want it.
so who else chose to not use any newer builds yet?
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im still using pancake 1.5, why you ask? because i want to wait until the final sprint release of 2.1 comes out and we get a custom rom fully working and bug free. plus i have my phone customized the way i want it.
so who else chose to not use any newer builds yet?
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This isn't responding to your question, but I just switched over to DamageControl v1 and I love it. Pretty much every bug has been fixed, and since it's still Sense, it's possible to get the exact same customization that you had before. Just jump ship to 2.1
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This isn't responding to your question, but I just switched over to DamageControl v1 and I love it. Pretty much every bug has been fixed, and since it's still Sense, it's possible to get the exact same customization that you had before. Just jump ship to 2.1
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naw ill wait, thanks. i use a rom without sense included.
I flip flop between gumbo or modaco since they are so dang stable. Sometimes when I feel adventurous I will flash the new 2.1 Flipz rom. The main reason I dont stick with them permanently is because of little bugs that always seem to pop up and I also prefer to have all of my sprint apps working since Im payin for them.
pancake still
I am still on pancake. It works very well and I have it set how I like it (for now). I am very close to just taking the leap to one of the 2.1s though. Seems like they have most everything working well. Besides, we never know just how long it will be before sprint releases 2.1.
cheers,
ryan
I still use Fresh 1.0 because it has Rosie and it's set up EXACTLY how I want it and there are no bugs. I have tried out all of the new 2.1 Roms except the Legend and there are bugs in pretty much all of them. DamageControl is the closest 2.1 Daily driver I have found
Finally made the jump to damage 1.0 and everything works.
The only thing that will not function is Sprint VVM, and I think GVoice Dial has a problem.
Hell the full screen weather effect from HTC clock is worth the switch. Should see the iPhoners drool when I show them that.
Well, for anyone who's refraining from switching to Damage Control due to concerns about bugs, I'd say that DC1.0 now feels like it genuinely has fewer bugs than Sprint's stock 1.5 does. Really.
With the stock ROM, my bluetooth never worked reliably, my voicemail counter was stuck in perpetually-incrementing mode since late November, and I'm not even going to mention the hell and grief I endured having to pick my poison between HTC's useless keyguard and LockBot's "good cop"/"bad cop" weeks when it would screw up the phone every other time I unlocked it (making itself home, waking up on volume bar presses, etc).
I've now gone for 2 whole days without ONCE taking the phone out of my pocket and finding it unlocked (I deleted HtcKeyGuard* and use the stock Eclair (Flan?) keyguard instead). Google Maps doesn't keep going senile and forgetting how to show traffic unless I reboot. I get 1/4 the FC errors I got with stock (Astrid used to FC so often, I'm amazed it ever managed to work). And countless little things that positively drove me to distraction daily. Thanks to DC, I genuinely like my Hero again. How good is DC compared to stock? If my Dad had a Hero, I'd make him reflash this weekend. If my Mom had a Hero, I'd do it for her. DC1.0 isn't a toy to screw with before groaning and going back to a ROM that works... it's the real deal.
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Well, for anyone who's refraining from switching to Damage Control due to concerns about bugs, I'd say that DC1.0 now feels like it genuinely has fewer bugs than Sprint's stock 1.5 does. Really.
With the stock ROM, my bluetooth never worked reliably, my voicemail counter was stuck in perpetually-incrementing mode since late November, and I'm not even going to mention the hell and grief I endured having to pick my poison between HTC's useless keyguard and LockBot's "good cop"/"bad cop" weeks when it would screw up the phone every other time I unlocked it (making itself home, waking up on volume bar presses, etc).
I've now gone for 2 whole days without ONCE taking the phone out of my pocket and finding it unlocked (I deleted HtcKeyGuard* and use the stock Eclair (Flan?) keyguard instead). Google Maps doesn't keep going senile and forgetting how to show traffic unless I reboot. I get 1/4 the FC errors I got with stock (Astrid used to FC so often, I'm amazed it ever managed to work). And countless little things that positively drove me to distraction daily. Thanks to DC, I genuinely like my Hero again. How good is DC compared to stock? If my Dad had a Hero, I'd make him reflash this weekend. If my Mom had a Hero, I'd do it for her. DC1.0 isn't a toy to screw with before groaning and going back to a ROM that works... it's the real deal.
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You should work in advertising! Also loving DC1.0
I went from Damage back to Fresh. Fresh is more updated and clean. Damage has too many .odex files.
I can't get BT data transfer to work on 2.x with apps like BT File Transfer I get that lower library level error or whatever so I haven't jumped because that's the only reason I would other than that I can do without the pimped out more battery intensive Sense experience...but don't get me wrong I am excited for it...just gonna wait for the official however I did the radio update so we'll see how it shakes out when I do the upgrade lol.
Do the switch, there bugs are minor...I don't plan on going back to 1.5 ...
I'm pretty happy with DC 1.0 ...
I can't get BT data transfer to work on 2.x with apps like BT File Transfer I get that lower library level error or whatever
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Have you tried a recent (past few days) build of DC? I'm hoping to finally dig into bluetooth this weekend (as soon as I get NBAndroid to work with API >= 5), but it would be immensely reassuring to hear that someone who already knows how to use it has gotten it to work. Few things are harder than trying to simultaneously figure out how to use something AND figure out whether it's crashing because of something YOU did, or crashing because of a problem with the underlying OS/library itself.
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im still using pancake 1.5, why you ask? because i want to wait until the final sprint release of 2.1 comes out and we get a custom rom fully working and bug free. plus i have my phone customized the way i want it.
so who else chose to not use any newer builds yet?
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I use fresh 1.0, the 1.5rom. I like it b/c everything works. And I like visual voicemail and mms. I also depend on my phone way too much to have something not reliable.
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Do the switch, there bugs are minor...I don't plan on going back to 1.5 ...
I'm pretty happy with DC 1.0 ...
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I have used every 2.1 that has been deved aside from damage's( that one will be next) but just had to ruu yesterday due to phone freezing. I use my phone constantly and rarely have time to flash or root or anything else. I love the 2.1 roms and will flash again when I have time but for now I am staying with complete stock till I know that the complete lockups are over and it was not a phone issue. That way if I have to get it warrantied then it is not rooted and flashed.
BTW: every rom I used was amazing in its own way. My personal fav was flipz 2.0b.
I'm not sure why people are calling DCv1 unreliable but I flashed coming from fresh 2.0b2 and haven't had a single fc. Everything works and the speed is awesome. Apps2sd was automatic, handcent works great and I'm thoroughly satisfied. I can't imagine going back to 1.5 for anything.
swaze said:
I'm not sure why people are calling DCv1 unreliable but I flashed coming from fresh 2.0b2 and haven't had a single fc. Everything works and the speed is awesome. Apps2sd was automatic, handcent works great and I'm thoroughly satisfied. I can't imagine going back to 1.5 for anything.
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Time to change your sig maybe? LOL just playin.
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I went from Damage back to Fresh. Fresh is more updated and clean. Damage has too many .odex files.
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me to Fresh 2.0 feels more refined to me I also don't really use the video record so no big deal and all the Sprint apps work not including VVM. Damage seemed to loose Sprint tv after a day and the verizon tab kept showing back up in the market. I would have to pull it put after reboots. Both are good roms don't get me wrong and it's nice to have a choice.
I'm still sitting on Sprint's stock 1.5 ROM (I thought it was called Cupcake, not Pancake?), mostly because I haven't had any real issues with it. See no reason to change. I suspect that after the 2.1 update, there won't be any more, and then once I get sick of 2.1 I might start flashing custom ROMs, for speed.
Still love Sense though. Couldn't use Android without it, I think.
Would enjoy an easy way (without rooting) to get the Sprint crapware off the upcoming 2.1 stock ROM. I don't care about NFL, Nascar, or TV, but want to keep Sprint Navigation. Also, a way to get rid of the HTC native apps such as Peep and the native IM application.
tduck: There is a ROM called Pancake, and it's different than the stock 1.5 Sprint ROM.
I'm currently using Pancake 1.5. I thought about using the newer builds when the dev's got Camera working but decided to hold off until the final release is issued by sprint, no real reason as to why.
Okay so my wife's Palm Pre messed up and my upgrades don't come eligible until January. So, I bought a Moment off eBay for her. She doesn't care whether she uses that or my Hero.
I was considering using the Moment. I know of a forum like this to go to so I can mod and root the Moment. But I am not sure if it is better performance wise and battery wise than my Hero.
What do y'all think? Should I keep the Hero or hack into the Moment?
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I have both the hero and the moment and performance wise moment is better. If u go to androidmobilesupport.com they haves really good rom there called keebler and from pics of it it has a higher than stock n1 and htc desire
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I have both the hero and the moment and performance wise moment is better.
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I think you are the first Moment owner I have heard say this about ANY phone, let alone the Hero.
Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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I think you are the first Moment owner I have heard say this about ANY phone, let alone the Hero.
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Then u probably don't know any1 that goes on sdx or ams. The moment is good and also been OC to 1.0.2 ghz tho it still isn't stable YET.
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Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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Ya I had the lockup but most newer Roms have a lockup fix. If they don't u can find a zip for it
wackywrz said:
Its funny I got my Hero because I had my Moment replaced 4 times, before I refused another! I do agree that stock-stock comparison the Moment seems faster (maybe because of the Sense UI overhead?). The Moment's screen is much nicer as well, and I actually prefer the hardware keyboard! My Hero's battery lasts much longer than the Moment's as well... But all of that is fine and dandy until the Moment starts having CDMA lockups and "Airplane Mode" bugs. That is why my phone was swapped so many times, because Sprint knows its a problem, and came out with the Intercept to cover it.
Just google "Samsung Moment EVDO lockup" and read all about it!
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Sense overhead plus a faster stock processor.
Since you have both phones you might as well root the moment, but I came from that and have had my hero for about a month now. There is no real fix for the lockups, the "fix" just slows the lockups down. I am happier with my hero than the moment, the hero seems do d/l faster and better music quality with pandora through the headphone jack. Either phone is good I just could not deal with a few lockups a day with my old moments (I had it replaced 5 times). Either way you go good luck.
The Samsung Moment is by far the WORST Android phone I have ever had the misfortune of having to help my parents manage. My father decided to surprise out family with Android phones, and thankfully, he got me a Hero.
the moment is a garbage phone, too many issues with it.
fixxxer2008 said:
the moment is a garbage phone, too many issues with it.
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Well, I should get the Moment tomorrow in the mail. I am going o load a custom rom on it. I will post a review of my findings.
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Well a few days ago I recieved the Moment and I swapped my phone to that and I gave my wife my Hero.
I reloaded the latest 2.1 Fresh for her because she actually likes Sense.
I fiddled around with a few roms for the Moment from other websites. Right now I am using the latest Keebler 2.1 rom and updated kernel and it runs great.
I haven't received any data lockups, the rom goes from 800-66mHz. Battery life is great and I am getting constant 9.0+ mflops on linpack and near 500's on quadrant.
So, overall I am happy witht the swap from the Hero to the Moment.
BTW, I must say that the Moment's screen is actually awesome!!!
I have an update on my Moment...
I'm still using Keebler 3.0 rom but this time I updated the opengl drivers and overclocked it to 1060mhz. I'm getting 10's for linpack and quadrant scores are around 510.
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Its a good phone I haven't had a lockup in weeks I have noobnls radioactive rom ext2 and I sometimes overclocked to 1066ghz
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Where did you go to get the rooting info and rom for the moment? My wife has one and its slow as crap and the battery only lasts about 4 hours.
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Sdx-developers is the place you wanna look for moment related materials.
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Sdx-developers is the place you wanna look for moment related materials.
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I did go over there and look at it...... All I can say is THANK GOD I elected to get a Hero instead of the Moment when I was given the opportunity to get out from under the POC TP2's I had. Yes I know it was a downgrade in money and I lost out on it,but if I had half as much trouble as what some of the posters over there are saying about it after going through 5 TP2's ..I would have gone postal at the repair center..... I wish you all the luck with it and no data lock ups or home key issues..
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Most of the problems I have (had) with the moment is harrdware based problems. And samsung is the reason. I am more or less neew to this so can someone tell me a way to backup the apps and not just the save info for them? This is the 3rd one of these things I have been through in 5 months and next is hell if I don't get another actual phone. I guess I need to find a coustom rom to run so it will stablize.
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james33440 said:
I have an update on my Moment...
I'm still using Keebler 3.0 rom but this time I updated the opengl drivers and overclocked it to 1060mhz. I'm getting 10's for linpack and quadrant scores are around 510.
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wow.. my girlfriend has a moment and shes always talkin about how terrible it is. im trying to get her to trust me and let me root it and load a custom rom. if i do im gonna throw the keebler rom on it. 1060mhz, 10+ mflops?? i think i might steal her phone.
Didn't like the moment because of the slide-out keyboard
I am now stuck with this POS phone and my wife has one to. I purchased this phone because radio shack said there is a shorter waiting list for this one and this one is better than the EVO. I like the display and the slide out keyboard and the evo side to side comparison is like night and day but now the evo is way better than the epic by far. my phone has the mysterious back syndrome when browsing with the keboard open and I am now sick of it. no flash is now causing my browser to crash when a pop up comes on and fully loads. that is new because I used to be able to x out of them a few weeks ago. And every other epic problem it has I found it. Samsung and sprint stuck it to me. everyone waiting for the 2.2 update should just face the fact there is none. Explaine the nexus s with 2.3? I beleive the problem is hardware and nobody is going to waranty a billion phones. I will never buy anything samsung again.
I need to know the easiest way to root my phone and how and what ROM has working gps,bluetooth, and doesnt crash to often (my stock one crashes once a month). I didnt want to go this way but then I cant use the phone as sprint sold it to me either. I was told the same thing everyone else ,within a couple weeks 2.2 would be availible, usb to hdmi adapter cable, flash support .ECT. the 4g speeds i have tested in 2 states only acheived 2 down 1 up . screw sprint and samsung. sprint has the crappiest coverage of all the carriers and I switched because i wanted the evo instead I got this. I am going to waste more of my time and file a BBB case against them for the lies!
wow.. are you serious... your going to complain about the phone and expect somebody to help you? how do you get anywhere in life?
Why don't you start reading?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388
If you don't like the phone just switch to an evo.. nobody is holding a gun to your head.
Oh and you posted in the wrong section. reading your thread again.. you must be joking.
Lol epic is a POS. I guess he never owned a Moment.
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Lol epic is a POS. I guess he never owned a Moment.
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He never owned a evo either. The evo is just as much of pos the epic is. They both got there flaws but I choose my epic over my evo
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I do have an evo but don't like the android keyboard, the display sucks but it does have flash player, hdmi out, and got froyo before the epic came out. I could say that sprint friken did a hard reset on my phone yesterday to "fix" the issues I am having with the phone and forgot to tell me that my calender of appointments would be gone so I am venting a little, but when I siighned up for the phone there were lies told to me ,mainly the 2.2 update that everyone is still waiting for. And it only took 3 tries to send this from my epic because it keeps backing out of the browser with the keyboard open, that wouldn't bother you? Other phones have a keyboard calibration menu. Sprint did telll me they are going to send a new phone today so yahoo.
I did read a lot of the link that you posted for me but get confused by the problem people are having just by plugging their phone into their computers. I figured that problem out the first day after a few hours and found out the epic sucks to much power out of the USB and screws you. Now the thbread is 99+ pages of confusion and I was looking for a shortened version of the story with a good rom link . Wow I made this post without backing out of the browser for once.
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Wow I made this post without backing out of the browser for once.
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So basically your clumsy thumbs are hitting the back button or the home button and you are pissed at your phone for that? That is all I am gleaming out of your nonsensical posts. How about you do this:
*Write a list like this of issues you are having with your phone
*Use plain language and drop the emotions
*Explain exactly what happens and what you are doing if anything to cause it
I'm loving the Epic. Not very happy with Sprint over the whole update, but thanks to this site I could care less when their update comes out. Loving the Midnight Rom on the Epic. Would like to check out a few more, but going to do some more reading before I do.
If my thumbs were hitting the back button that would be an easy fix, cut my thumbs off. my phone from day one backs out of even texting by itself even with it 3 feet away from any human at random. This backing out by itself only happens when the keyboard is open and I actually have slide marks on the buttons because after i type something "quick" I have to close, it otherwise at any time the page back button goes haywire. all the way back to the begining. I am not ripping on XDA or any of its members so sorry if I came off that way. I paid for the top of the line sprint phone and use it for work and home and am tired of waiting for stock update to fix these problems. I know XDA and its members are going to be the one that supports this phone because history shows. I got a good deal at new egg on the evo and use that for 1 thing. browsing the internet and when it comes to a flash file, it plays it, my epic boots me out of the browser.
Odin flash to DI18 and then update to DK28...beautiful! I highly suggest the flash so that it is clean before the update. It doesn't like a lot of changes, such as apps and rooting.
Anyone on the DI18 on here able to replicate this? I remember the browser actually being more stable, but that could just be me.... See if the replacement does the same thing, I dont think it will... unless there was a stock browser update on DI18 I dont know about. but if it FCs on keyboard open, and you are on stock, never had flashed anything... try a new one... dont give up, the software is not perfect either way, stock or leaked DK28... and will be until we get source on something... then the Devs will perfect it. Besides, stock is boring... modify!
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If my thumbs were hitting the back button that would be an easy fix, cut my thumbs off.
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Friendly advice: When asking for assistance, please make note of your emotional well-being at the time so you do not come across as a hormone-addled teenage girl auditioning for drama club. Trust me, I have a 17 year old girl; I see this daily and this is exactly the over-reaction I have come to expect from her. i.e., ME: "You have to do your homework before you can get on Facebook.", HER: "MY LIFE IS OVER!!!! I HAVE TO TALK TO MY FRIENDS NOW! I'M DROPPING OUT AND BECOMING A STRIPPER!!!!" ME: "..." HER: "hrmph. FINE!"
If you have a hardware problem, it's covered under manufacturer's warranty and the phone will be replaced. You already stated that you have one on the way so is the drama really necessary?
The GPS on these phones is hinkey even with 2.2. Mine seems to work flawlessly on Quantum but it freezes up after about 20 minutes of walking with cardiotrainer on. Better than 2.1, at least, because it always gets a lock in seconds.
Good thing about Android is that you can actually download other applications that perform the same function for testing. For instance, in regards to your browser problem, there are multiple browsers to download. Personally, I use Dolphin because it was the first one I tried with tabbed browsing and I love it. There are probably better ones out there, but this one suits my needs. Try multiple applications to see if your phone's hardware's the problem or if it's a software issue.
Can you give me your Epic POS (and yours wife too). And buy yourself another an EVO? PM to send you my address...
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looking into why I lost my appointments on my phone I found out that my calender is stuck syncing. so i can wright off my calender ever comming back. It took me 3 months of just waiting for this update to fix the phone and the rest going through sprints tech support and even samsung to get the new phone. they didnt just say here is a new phone to try. I sure am going to root the new one the day I get it.
Yeah ever since ive done the update my phone randomly starts to lag it sucks bad i feel like i have my hero again :/ also the white htc screen keeps coming up when i push the home key.ive had nothing but bad issues with this gingerbread update im wondering maybe because it was a download from here i forgot who posted it i think someone with the screen name football.i dont know if it was that or what but it seems like im having issues i didnt have before if anyone has a link to a office update? Cus i already did that ruu that football posted and i cant downgrade i already know about the hboot issue so dont flame me about wanting to unroot i already know that was a fail lol
Please help!! Im so damn frustrated with this update! I do have better battery life but thats about it my gps kinda acts weird as well also my 4g seems to not connect where it used to idk?anyone have any info on how i can get it up and running like.a evo shift not a overclock hero lol
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A lot of people has issues with the upgrade. I have a evo flashed to metropcs and I lost my mobile network. Other than that battery life is improved but sometimes screen is lagging, white htc screen takes to much time when i switch from application to home screen and camera app doesn't start sometimes till i restart the phone. so upgrade messed me up so bad too
well if you got it from here i am guessing its still rooted so i would say d/l a new rom and start over if your not rooted there not much you can do if you like stock rom use this one if not look for a different one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082793
Gingerbread has made my "Smart Phone" essentially useless as a Smart Phone. It wasn't great with FROYO to begin with due to the interface resetting every time I used my web browser, but now after the Gingerbread update the damn phone resets after almost every app I use!
I'm on my way to the Sprint store right now. I use my phone for work and this is making it unusable for me. They at the very least need to get me back to FROYO, or it's time for an entirely different phone I suppose.
Lol cool let me know what happens with your phone and sprint i wanna take it in or call but i just havent really tried cus its software and sprint usually doesnt wanna do anything with it cus they wanna see the problem which is very hard to duplicate since the 2.3.3 starts to fail randomly lol
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Gingerbread has made my "Smart Phone" essentially useless as a Smart Phone. It wasn't great with FROYO to begin with due to the interface resetting every time I used my web browser, but now after the Gingerbread update the damn phone resets after almost every app I use!
I'm on my way to the Sprint store right now. I use my phone for work and this is making it unusable for me. They at the very least need to get me back to FROYO, or it's time for an entirely different phone I suppose.
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I had problems
I had issues with the internal clock not updating even though the sense clock read correct, constant white screens, this update should have waited a bit in my opinion.
The update bricked the CDMA radio so bad Sprint is now sending me another Shift which I should get tomorrow. This one will only do CDMA - 1xRTT and won't even go into CDMA - EvDo rev.A at all after the update. In fact, using the ##debug# dial code and selecting EVDO Engineering, this Shift reports '<Failed>' in every field. Even a Sprint network re-provision did not fix it. Since I pay the $7 per month replacement fee, I'm guessing that I should get a 'new' Shift vice a refurb hopefully. At this point I'll be happy to get EvDo rev.A back and live with the Sense reloads because 1xRTT is way too SLOW to do much of anything!
Another bug on it that annoys the sh$$ outta me is when u use the camera or camcorder it sets the brightness level all the way up.thats a reason my phone was getting kinda hot lol
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