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[POLL] Will you keep Froyo?

For the folks that have gotten a taste of Froyo, will you keep it?
Closing this poll in 21 days, I imagine the "officially official" Froyo release will have some variances.

Yes.
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I don't see any poll? My vote would be yes. I went from rooted N1 with stock rom and recovery to amon_ra's recovery and Froyo and haven't found a single bug yet. It's very stable for me and even watched a Youtube flash video which worked flawlessly (keep in mind I only watched one video so far)

.. when it's CM-froyo, yes.. till then 507.

Of course. It works flawlessly on my device and the speed increase is money. Just waiting for the mods now. And for the app devs to send their updates.

rori~ said:
.. when it's CM-froyo, yes.. till then 507.
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Darn it! Wish I thought of that option before putting up the poll! I've been thinking of reverting to CM507 and waiting on CM6... But I don't see any options to edit the poll.

im waiting for cyanogen...played with froyo for 5 mins, than did a restore back

I'm keeping it because I love the new features, It's like they listened to me directly because everything I wanted they've updated specifically. I do miss my features with Enoms ROM but I can live without until he releases an update [still waiting on AOSP as far as I know]

icon57 said:
im waiting for cyanogen...played with froyo for 5 mins, than did a restore back
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Give it a chance rofl. 5 minutes is not enough to discover all the new tweaks/features that Google gave us

Keeping it. There are so many new features and just little visual tweaks that make it so awesome. Like when you mount your phone via USB there's a little android guy. Or if you use more than one language when typing you can just swipe the spacebar to easily switch.
The only cons I've encountered were Handcent fc'ing every time I send a msg and the HTC mod kb not working. However those two things are huge for me.
Overall the speed, visual enhancements and epicness of Froyo is enough for me to roll w the punches until 2.2 source is released and the devs fix up something awesome!
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Anyone have issues when powering up the phone? It seems to take forever until it is stable and will actually respond normally. Unrooted Froyo.

Don't know why people would prefer anything older than FroYo.
It's faster, it's reliable, it has cool features and is better looking =)
Definitely a keeper, very happy with it. Now where is my Gingerbread?!

DarkDvr said:
Don't know why people would prefer anything older than FroYo.
It's faster, it's reliable, it has cool features and is better looking =)
Definitely a keeper, very happy with it. Now where is my Gingerbread?!
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Because its missing all the little tweaks from CM that makes day-to-day on the phone so much more useful. (even little things like remove debug message, trackball track skip, color pulsing, etc)
I think I'm still going to keep it but waiting impatiently for a CM froyo variant for sure.

Keeping it. The 2 issues I had, have been fixed by app updates for dolphin HD and handsent. And I think there's a fix out for HTC ime that I have to find.

I'm keeping it for now, but once enom and CM start building new ROMs with a Froyo base, then I'll probably move onto those

I got froyo, then went back to cyan5.0.6 due to the fact that apps are not updated yet. But I went back to froyo last night willing to be patient. I cant wait for cyan froyo 6.0 Being stock sucks and to me the reg functions of the phone are slow compared to 5.0.6.
You know how many times I hit my trackball to wake my phone up and unlock and im like "****" lol....
cyan ROMs are the shiznit!!!

Tried Froyo, went back to 2.1
It's not so much I had anything against Froyo... everything worked great with Froyo itself... but none of the widgets I use worked with Froyo, so I reverted.

where's the option to keep a nandroid of both froyo & CM and switch back & forth as needed?

I'm keeping it for now; I REALLY miss some of my apps though.
Since none of them are updated for Apps2SD yet my phone memory's almost full & started rejecting text messages.
Couple that with I have over 100 apps that I can't even find on the market again and yeah.. I'm waiting for CM =(
Love the flash player and hulu on the go though; so for now, it stays...

RixKliq said:
where's the option to keep a nandroid of both froyo & CM and switch back & forth as needed?
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u can backup ur phone as much as u want. As long as u have the space to do it on ur SD card. I have about 3 nandroid backups. 2 cyan5.0.6 and 1 froyo. Just go into recovery and select which one u want.

I'm cured!

That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.

edufur said:
That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.
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+1. Though I enjoy 'modding my phone' I don't need to sacrifice stability for it. I think the only reason I would root again is for SetCPU to underclock and save battery or if some crazy app came out that Google does not plan on releasing.

htc's version of android has been reworked quite heavily to use sense, for those who dont like sense, it cant simply be stripped out and reinstalling the stock launcher leaves more problems then it solves, anyone looking for a pure android experience will jump to an asop rom as fast as possible, htc has done a great job staying on top of their phones for once but are still lagging behind xda, its the whole inch and a mile thing

edufur said:
That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.
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+1 I never even bothered rooting after upgrading from the Hero to the Evo on Oct. 1st. My Hero was rooted and saw its share of custom roms but I'm quite happy with stock Froyo and the newest update.
I thought I would never go back to Sense after running CM6 on my Hero and some other aosp roms but I'm back to stock with the Evo and love it. Plus my wimax works which I do use.
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htc's version of android has been reworked quite heavily to use sense, for those who dont like sense, it cant simply be stripped out and reinstalling the stock launcher leaves more problems then it solves, anyone looking for a pure android experience will jump to an asop rom as fast as possible, htc has done a great job staying on top of their phones for once but are still lagging behind xda, its the whole inch and a mile thing
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That's strange, I'm running a stock rooted rom with sense removed and have not experienced any force closes... Although, I must admit I feel at times like my battery drains fast and I can't help but feel like its the excess htc processes draining....
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I've been running virus Rom with no issues and one of kings kernels, I do like to use the free teathering and extra battery life
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I feel like the stock root is good. I am able to get rid of the Sprint software with root. But I like to know I am able to test new roms.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G. EVOke (v.) - Summon into action or bring into existence, often as if by magic.

I like the latest Sprint OTA...thanks Sprint and HTC!
That said, my wife was not rooted and started complaining because my rooted phone operated much smoother/faster than hers. BTW, even rooted, she uses ADW and no Sense.
So I ended up rooting my wife and oh boy is she happy now.

I still like playing around with roms but I've limited myself to two: MIUI (still not quite there for me but it's a beautiful rom) and Vaelpak.

firemedic1343 said:
So I ended up rooting my wife and oh boy is she happy now.
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Ha, awesome!

Aria Official 2.2 Froyo Update OTA

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_aria_gets_the_android_22_froyo_update_ota-news-2153.php
It's here! Sort of...

Is this the southeast Asia version?
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App

Hmmm.
sent from my HTC Intruder running FR007 and CM6.1

Once again, we are waiting for ATT. But this is so pointless because we have the Full Gratia ROM with no ATT bloatware.

brswattt said:
Once again, we are waiting for ATT. But this is so pointless because we have the Full Gratia ROM with no ATT bloatware.
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Not pointless; there's the other 99% of the Aria users who would benefit from the 2.2 upgrade on the Aria. Of them probably 95% don't even know there are different versions of Android, but anywho...
My wife would be included.. I don't mess with her laptops, phones, etc, unless she needs me to, and her Aria runs great as is, but it'd run better on 2.2

does anyone know whether it's possible to use the Froyo firmware from the OTA update and flash it via a PC?
I'm using an Optus Aria (Australia) and I'd like to have Froyo, but would also like to keep it as stock as possible.
I think it's going to be a while before Optus comes out with the Froyo update.
Alternatively, is there any way to trick the phone into thinking it's an unbranded phone and then allowing the OTA update?

brswattt said:
Once again, we are waiting for ATT. But this is so pointless because we have the Full Gratia ROM with no ATT bloatware.
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This may be a stupid question, but that's been posted on XDA? If so, I'll find it myself, no worries; however, I was just curious as I just got a root Aria off of eBay for simply playing around with Android hacking, etc.
Just didn't want to take the risk of bricking my everyday phone or screwing something functionally to the point where it works but is annoying.

Hi everyone, I'm located in Malaysia and I've just begun downloading the Froyo update via FOTA. I'll update this thread once the installation is complete.
For anyone interested, my Aria is stock 100%. Not rooted ever. My intention is to compare 2.1 and 2.2 on the Aria and see if there is a significant difference, although App2SD and Wifi Tethering are already good enough reasons to switch......
I'll post back again.

Well, I've updated successfully to the new Froyo. The experience wasn't bad or anything. If anything it was simple and quick. Once the update was downloaded OTA, the installation only took 3-5 minutes in which the screen would stay on for the most part (displaying a "syncing" icon of sorts). I did have a problem with the installation once it was done, the HTC Sense couldn't boot up. It just kept force closing itself when it couldn't load. To fix the problem I had to do a hard reset (this is why you should back up your data prior to updating). Once that was done, I was navigating my Aria with relative ease.
What are the changes I've noticed so far? Plenty! If you're like me and have never rooted your phone, you probably would've missed out on a lot (just like I did). Here's a list of what I've encountered so far.
1) Wallpapers for the "Lock-Screen" is no longer separate from your Home wallpaper. Might be a bad thing for some but I never really cared for it anyway.
2) Live Wallpapers are SUPPORTED now! Something I've been looking for a while. Now I can use timester on my Aria.
3) It has all the usual 2.2 updates like Wifi Tethering, App2SD, App Sharing, etc. Not lacking anything there.
4) New HTC Sense widgets (so far I've spotted a new SMS widget which is a lot nicer than the "Rolodex" widget)
5) Comes with Google Voice search, Google Navigation, Google Car Dock, New Gmail app and a host of other things.
In terms of stability, well its an OEM released ROM so I doubt there'll be any problems.
Well that was just my quick run through on the 2.2. Definitely worthwhile the wait and I'm glad its out now.

So how do I apply this to my stock Att aria??

Crispysaturn said:
So how do I apply this to my stock Att aria??
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This update was not meant for an AT&T branded Aria. It is for the Southeast Asia Aria.

PacoL250 said:
This may be a stupid question, but that's been posted on XDA? If so, I'll find it myself, no worries; however, I was just curious as I just got a root Aria off of eBay for simply playing around with Android hacking, etc.
Just didn't want to take the risk of bricking my everyday phone or screwing something functionally to the point where it works but is annoying.
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Well I'm officially an idiot (yes, it has been said before ), but the Liberated Aria Froyo ROM is from the Gratia and on Froyo.
Yes, that's pointing the obvious, but I'm sure people may have missed that (I clearly did, though I had no idea how/why... ).

So when this does come officially, rooting is lost? Or is it just a matter of time before a new method is developed?
Sparked from below
Community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/96/t/8213.aspx?PageIndex=1
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Rooting will be lossed but this update more then likely will be manual for at&t brands.
Signatures are fancy.

Guys, Just use the liberated ROM. The new hboot will just screw your rooting process over. OTA updates suck anways. AT&T bloatware.

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Guys, Just use the liberated ROM. The new hboot will just screw your rooting process over. OTA updates suck anways. AT&T bloatware.
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but arent some of the roms gimped in some ways?
i am rooted now, but didn't use roms since there always seemed to be something missing or something that didnt work quite right.
i might just do the ota update when it comes.
will i lose any data/apps with the ota update?
do i have to put it back to stock first?

dh4645 said:
but arent some of the roms gimped in some ways?
i am rooted now, but didn't use roms since there always seemed to be something missing or something that didnt work quite right.
i might just do the ota update when it comes.
will i lose any data/apps with the ota update?
do i have to put it back to stock first?
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I used Liberated Froyo for a few weeks, but it was a battery draining, laggy, slow, gimpy WiFi-d piece of junk. Use CM! But if you like Sense, I don't know what to tell you. I would NOT recommend Liberated Aria Froyo.

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I used Liberated Froyo for a few weeks, but it was a battery draining, laggy, slow, gimpy WiFi-d piece of junk. Use CM! But if you like Sense, I don't know what to tell you. I would NOT recommend Liberated Aria Froyo.
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Me neither. But after a research I realized that it becomes slower because of the Live Wallpapers, even when you're not using them. I installed the LW zip on the stock rom and it became slow. So that's why the FROYO rom is the way it is. If someone could disable that I believe it could run a lot faster.

tribestros said:
I used Liberated Froyo for a few weeks, but it was a battery draining, laggy, slow, gimpy WiFi-d piece of junk. Use CM! But if you like Sense, I don't know what to tell you. I would NOT recommend Liberated Aria Froyo.
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I don't want to play the devil's advocate... but I wouldn't talk so down upon a great ROM since I have had no problems with it being slow and laggy, no problems with the WiFi (on both kernels), and my battery lasts just as long as it does with CM6 (about a day (18 hours) to a day and a half without a charge, depending no my overall usage) with a fair amount of e-mails and texts coming in, calls everyday, and moderate gaming and internet usage (I have WiFi set to sleep every 15 minutes, mobile data to turn on when WiFi is off, both GPS and network locations are on, background data and automatic syncing is also on)....
Maybe I'm lucky? ...
So while CM has it's quirks and advantages... don't just shoot down the other ROM...
EDIT: Oh, and I don't use SetCPU to underclock when sleeping.

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I don't want to play the devil's advocate... but I wouldn't talk so down upon a great ROM since I have had no problems with it being slow and laggy, no problems with the WiFi (on both kernels), and my battery lasts just as long as it does with CM6 (about a day (18 hours) to a day and a half without a charge, depending no my overall usage) with a fair amount of e-mails and texts coming in, calls everyday, and moderate gaming and internet usage (I have WiFi set to sleep every 15 minutes, mobile data to turn on when WiFi is off, both GPS and network locations are on, background data and automatic syncing is also on)....
Maybe I'm lucky? ...
So while CM has it's quirks and advantages... don't just shoot down the other ROM...
EDIT: Oh, and I don't use SetCPU to underclock when sleeping.
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is the bolded stuff options on 2.1, 2.2 or just custom roms?

For those holding out on root & awaiting "Official 2.2 OTA", DON'T!! -> read w/in ->>

For those holding out on root & awaiting "Official 2.2 OTA", DON'T!! -> read w/in ->>
When I got my Evo, I wanted to wait for the official Sprint ROM/OTA upgrades because I wanted to keep my phone stock. I didn't want root to affect my phone's ability to OTA upgrade and get the latest and greatest from Sprint.
After many advice from others, I decided to root. This is where you will see the repeating theme - "I rooted and loaded a ROM and have never looked back", or "I rooted and upgraded the ROM from the dev section and have never been happier". I certainly agree.
The fact is, when (now IF) the official 2.2 comes out, you will get the EXACT OTA content here just as quickly (probably faster) and be able to flash to that if you wish. Most likely, at that time, you will want an enhanced version such as deodexed. It is not worth holding out on root just because you want the OTA.
With root, you are opening new options such as forcing the phone to roam only, make real/full backups, modify your phone both visually and functionally, and so much more. After root, battery life can certainly be improved by tweaking your phone (remove bloatware, keep unwanted services from starting, etc.)
When I got my Epic, I rooted immediately. I have been running DK28 since it dropped and enjoying what 2.2 has to offer. If/when the official comes out, I will upgrade. There is simply no risk of missing out.
So for you who are on the line, I encourge you to root and move forward. You will have a new world of options and enjoy your phone so much more.
Cheers.

It's true, and we're not that far from seeing a true Gingerbread port too.

Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
I was in the same boat a few months ago. I viewed "rooting" as a hack or purposely "damaging" the phone. Eventually, I caved in; everything is hindsight from that point. Now, I will NEVER use a stock ROM again. Having access to the system allows me to take control of the device that I OWN; not Sprint or Samsung. If I don't want and application on the phone, I simply remove it. If I want to change the appearance, I install a theme.
Honestly, if you own an Epic, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't root the phone. Heck, I'm not even using 2.2 for the lack of a stable GPS lock...

OregonLAN said:
Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
I was in the same boat a few months ago. I viewed "rooting" as a hack or purposely "damaging" the phone. Eventually, I caved in; everything is hindsight from that point. Now, I will NEVER use a stock ROM again. Having access to the system allows me to take control of the device that I OWN; not Sprint or Samsung. If I don't want and application on the phone, I simply remove it. If I want to change the appearance, I install a theme.
Honestly, if you own an Epic, there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't root the phone. Heck, I'm not even using 2.2 for the lack of a stable GPS lock...
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I agree with most of this. But from my point of view, I don't even use it for the control, I use it cause it works better. Oh, and the themes. I just hope the devs and themers stick around a while, cause I have this phone for another 20 months :/

new devs and themers will come along. the cdma touch pro 2 is approching 18 months in age and when i stop by that forum, its just as busy as ever, and i dont even recognize the names of roms people are talking about, because the chefs that were cooking when i was rocking that have moved along, but new ones are stepping up in their place.

Installed TrulyEpic 1.2 last night in just a few minutes. No problems at all. GPS is fantastic (I thought it was working before, but now - ) Is it just me, or does the stock ROM limit the display brightness? I think it actually LOOKS better but YMMV.
It's comforting to know that I now have a phone that will probably never be truly obsolete for the next couple years as long as there are ROM builders out there.

but i tried to root using the one click and recovery and had issues it would tell me permission denied at the end after it reboooted, i used z4 to root and it worked fine, tried to use it again and still same thing, then installed rom manager and then try clockwork, nogo. so i took it all off and will jsut deal with it when it comes ota

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Not to mention, with Odin, this phone is extremely hard to FUBAR and very easy to revert back to stock if needed. One click root makes the rooting process brainless...
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I'd agree with you, except that I've had all kinds of issues rooting my Epic, ranging from USB drivers that fail to install, various one click root scripts that error out, a cruddy usb cable from Samsung, and an inability to get Odin to even look at my phone crosseyed.
I'm not brainless ... but nothing about rooting and flashing my phone has been straightforward. After wasting hours wading through (volunteer-written, open source, karmically-blessed) inconsistent instructions, I've lost patience. I just want an official, OTA copy of Froyo that isn't going to brick my phone or waste my time.

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but i tried to root using the one click and recovery and had issues it would tell me permission denied at the end after it reboooted, i used z4 to root and it worked fine, tried to use it again and still same thing, then installed rom manager and then try clockwork, nogo. so i took it all off and will jsut deal with it when it comes ota
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I've never had this problem. There must be something wrong and it isn't the one click. Could be your USB cable. Make sure your phone is in debugging mode. The OP is 100% right. Why use any stock ROM? If we do ever get the OTA, our devs will make it better and in about 100 different flavors.
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I have been holding out but even my patience is tested...
It was tested even more today trying to find a way to root without a PC (as I don't own a PC... well I have one that runs Win2K and no internet at home... yeah.) I did download z4root but it never got past the first screen...it literally loaded for an 1hr the 1st time and 35mins the second before I got ticked and just uninstalled. I may be new to the android scene (long time winmob user that fled after testing a wp7 craptastic phone) but something just isn't right here X/ I mean really.... I simply want flash (outside of skyfire) and to wirelessly tether without having to pay ANOTHER $30 a month.... ...
So yeah, /rant
Ota can come ANY DAY NOW *looks angrily at the sky*
Epic is as Epic does

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I've never had this problem. There must be something wrong and it isn't the one click. Could be your USB cable. Make sure your phone is in debugging mode. The OP is 100% right. Why use any stock ROM? If we do ever get the OTA, our devs will make it better and in about 100 different flavors.
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yea it was set to debug , its the original cable that came with it. i have not tried it on a diff pc, it could be a vista issue

Good point. But unless Samsung or sprint announce the update is out. Somebody has to be stock just incase they quietly release the update.
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yep. Im staying on stock for the simple fact that my phone aint broke why try and fix it lol.

I recently flashed DK28, then converted to ext4 and the bonsai mod. Froyo means I can view more webpages and download the froyo apps from the market place. ADW lancher was slow on 2.2, but lancher pro works fine. Also I wasn't getting great battery life but it's back to normal after I set my screen brightness to automatic. Overall I'm happy with my decision.

I too was one that didn't want to root and I was paying for the sprint hotspot :-\ but once I got the first bill for $130 I quickly youtube how to videos on rooting the epic and never looked back. 2.2 runs great with my only bug being, on some calls out I couldn't hear the other person unless I put it speaker phone. I worked my way around this bug by just hitting the speaker button before every call then quickly hit it again to shut off the speaker. It takes very little effort and I'm happier than ever with my epic and I don't give a rats ass about the OTA 2.2

The reason i first rooted was for wireless tether and to get rid of all the bloatware. After that i found all these awesome root apps like ADFREE and ShootME titatanium back up and many others and i can now not live with out adfree its the best app ever!!
After trying wireless tether it was ok then mobile ap came along and i love it. And for this reason alone im staying stock and honestly this is the first phone that does everything i need and doesnt give me any issues even on stock rom. I did get a custom kernal i flashed a good amount of the 2.1 roms and didnt really care for any of them besides noobnls rom. i mean i like custom roms that are blank of extra bloatware and what not.
But yes i agree dont wait to root, you get so many added benefits to make your phone run fast and get many free apps that are ad supported but because of ad free they are like the real one.
Best decision to root.
And for any reason i need to go back to stock to take the phone in i have all the stock flashables on my sd card so i just flash them and its easy as pie.
One click root never gave me any issues with the samsung cord or with any other cords i have.

I agree, I just got tired of it and rooted and installed a custom ROM (Trulyepic 1.2). It's definitely nice. It's also nice to feel free from the shenanigans of corporations trying to do as little as possible to make money off you while maintaining PR.
I admit, it's a bit scary to do with your phone. I'm lucky in that I've gotten familiar with rooting with my Viewsonic Gtablet, but I have to admit that I was pretty nervous the first time.

iggybug said:
I'd agree with you, except that I've had all kinds of issues rooting my Epic, ranging from USB drivers that fail to install, various one click root scripts that error out, a cruddy usb cable from Samsung, and an inability to get Odin to even look at my phone crosseyed.
I'm not brainless ... but nothing about rooting and flashing my phone has been straightforward. After wasting hours wading through (volunteer-written, open source, karmically-blessed) inconsistent instructions, I've lost patience. I just want an official, OTA copy of Froyo that isn't going to brick my phone or waste my time.
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Hey dude, i haven't rooted my phone and I have the 2.2. rom on my computer... it was super easy to install. If you want the update without having to root, just pm me if you want it, and ill upload it and send u a link. with instructions.

I did the update and my GPS was fubar. I had to flash back to stock and now I'm scared to flash back to 2.2 for fear of losing GPS again. How is your GPS because I really liked froyo but don't want to jeopardize my GPS.

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I did the update and my GPS was fubar. I had to flash back to stock and now I'm scared to flash back to 2.2 for fear of losing GPS again. How is your GPS because I really liked froyo but don't want to jeopardize my GPS.
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My GPS was actually fixed by going to FroYo...but I had some miscellaneous issues, so I flashed back to DI18 and am on SyndicateROM with the Xtreme Kernel. I have to get rid of setCPU soon...1.2 GHz overclock is killing my battery

Sitting on the fence

So here I sit, on the fence, with my rooted stock Epic.
Nothing has really substantiated the rumors of Froyo for the 21st, and that just makes me think it's not coming (and if SamsungJohn was going to finally say something substantial, a yea or nay would be a nice start).
But this is not a thread about the OTA.
I'm just thinking... if OTA is really imminent, then I'll just wait and let the devs work on it. But if it's not... then it's time to look at one of the available ROMs.
ViperRom 4.0.4 looks damn sweet... love the ViperWheel widget... but it was held up from its Monday release (are they waiting for source code drop too?). And there is Midnight and Nebula which I kinda like also.
I guess I could start the process of checking them out.
Or I could just sit here and wait. I'm going out of town this weekend and probably should leave things alone until I get back home.
Until then I ask anyone who is running those ROMs... would I lose Swype if I switch ROMs? I really like Swype...

I am stock/rooted, pretty much in the same situation. Will wait until the end of the month if no stock Froyo materializes will look into roms and modding a bit. I depend on my phone's functions all working for my business and would rather not take a chance that I will lose functionality by flashing to the Froyo leak.

i was waiting like you guys til the other week and i went to bonsai, and everything is working superbly.
I was getting sick of stock rom and 2.1, not being able to have hulu or flash as well as a few apps that are must have like Humans vs aliens as well as Andy-83.
Im now just waiting for the official source so it can be improved, but ive had no issues on bonsai and reccomend it, if you want something fast and clean..

give the latest midnight a shot it works really good just wipe 3x before loading and be happy. swype works for me just have to switch text imput method from gb to swype.

Soooo. Oh., before that... I am so glad I rooted and mod. I ran midnight ... and cut my teeth on the ext4 .... the cwm .... and after root and rom messed around with themes. After my ver of midnight got a few weeks old I switched to bonzai and I love it too... it just works. Wait a few ... but its worth it.
Btw ... will we have to wait a while for the new stock 2.2 to get rooted or... is once root always root? Curious.
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VIPERrom 4.0.4 does look sweet. I'm currently running FRoZen 4.0.3, and it has been great. I highly recommend the VIPERroms. I be jonesin' for that 4.0.4 son!

I use Frankenstein.

Don't update.
There's too many bugs in dk28 which will make yu scramble for di18, but when you go back you will miss the little upgrades that did work so it'll be this constant struggle within.
Until official 2.2.1 ofcourse
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Also you can just copy the swype.apk from /system/app
Can't he?
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ROM's
I spent last weekend loading up all of the different (read more popular) ROM's and the most stable and straight forward one to me was Nebula Seven Sisters. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863154
The developer made it a point of keeping a lot of the stock look and features while improving on what Froyo brought to the table. I did not have any real functional issues with Viper, Midnight or TrulyEpic, it just seemed that Nebula was trying to keep the experience closer to stock than the others.
Other people will say they like the modified skins, the launcher pro, the Viper wheel, etc. For them, that is the case. That is the great thing about the developers of the ROM's, they are doing this to cater to different crowds.
So really, there is no need to wait for Sprint or Samsung here, download Odin, grab some ROM's and have fun with your phone! All I can say is to make Clockwork backups often, it makes the process of going back to the ROM you liked two days ago so much easier!
Randy

could try the Syndicate Rom, for 2.1.... see how fast the 2.2.1 roms WILL be after source... but other than that, they are all stable from what I read, some people have a few issues, depends a lot on you though. If you have a ton of stuff to reinstall after a clean wipe, might as well wait out the weekend, not for an OTA, slim chance there... but just so you have time.... sometimes things take longer, you may go thru 5 roms before you find the one you like... etc.

lazyart said:
I'm just thinking... if OTA is really imminent, then I'll just wait and let the devs work on it. But if it's not... then it's time to look at one of the available ROMs.
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DK28 is buggy but it is better than 2.1 by far. You really don't lose anything by going with one of the available ROMs right now. Presumably they will all have an update once the new version is sent out from Sprint (whether it be on the 21st or not). If you're running a custom 2.2 ROM, you'll just do a CWM backup, update to the newer version of whichever ROM you like, and then restore your data.
I went back and forth between Quantum and Bonsai ROM today. It takes no more than 10 minutes to fully swap ROMs. Just do it, you'll be glad you did. And if a new version of 2.2 comes out in the next 5 days, it will only take a few minutes (max) of your time to upgrade to it.

A_Flying_Fox said:
Don't update.
There's too many bugs in dk28 which will make yu scramble for di18, but when you go back you will miss the little upgrades that did work so it'll be this constant struggle within.
Until official 2.2.1 ofcourse
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What bugs are u getting? I running bonsai and have no issues.. even got Tue pre8 wireless tether working perfectly ...
Sent From My Bonsai Epic 4g

SF-IT-Guy said:
I spent last weekend loading up all of the different (read more popular) ROM's and the most stable and straight forward one to me was Nebula Seven Sisters. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863154
The developer made it a point of keeping a lot of the stock look and features while improving on what Froyo brought to the table. I did not have any real functional issues with Viper, Midnight or TrulyEpic, it just seemed that Nebula was trying to keep the experience closer to stock than the others.
Other people will say they like the modified skins, the launcher pro, the Viper wheel, etc. For them, that is the case. That is the great thing about the developers of the ROM's, they are doing this to cater to different crowds.
So really, there is no need to wait for Sprint or Samsung here, download Odin, grab some ROM's and have fun with your phone! All I can say is to make Clockwork backups often, it makes the process of going back to the ROM you liked two days ago so much easier!
Randy
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Is 7sisters smoother than bonsai?Im asking because I want minimal rom so I can add my own things to it.

Well, I've just flashed DK28 and CWM just finished converting to EXT4. It's party time.
Viper brings some great stuff to the table.
Nebula is stability first, which is important to me since my business and my phone are virtually inseparable.
I also like Midnight's BYOR modular format, keeping bloat to a minimum.
I'll have a fun time with this.

lviv73 said:
Is 7sisters smoother than bonsai?Im asking because I want minimal rom so I can add my own things to it.
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Bonsai is bare minimum and is great to add your own stuff and themes and its stable and fast, and for me the pre8 new wifi tethering app wits great, I live this rom!!!
Sent From My Bonsai Epic 4g

lazyart said:
Well, I've just flashed DK28 and CWM just finished converting to EXT4. It's party time.
Viper brings some great stuff to the table.
Nebula is stability first, which is important to me since my business and my phone are virtually inseparable.
I also like Midnight's BYOR modular format, keeping bloat to a minimum.
I'll have a fun time with this.
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More fun than I realized. After the conversion I got stuck at the www.samsungmmobile.com screen. Here we Odin again!

lazyart said:
More fun than I realized. After the conversion I got stuck at the www.samsungmmobile.com screen. Here we Odin again!
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No need to odin,odin only if nothing else works!
In ur case pull out bettery,put it back in,hold power+vol down+camera to get back into cmw3 and try again.
This will save you some time.

Everyone should be warned of one MAJOR issue. If you use you phone for primary internet access anywhere you go; whether at home or at work or wherever. The tethering drops you no matter what you use at random. It is very frustrating and annoying. If it wasn't for this I'd be 100% satisfied with nebula already; but it isn't the rom's problem, it's with DK28. Some people use wireless tethering but I cannot with 2 different desktops I use my phone for internet connectivity.

lazyart said:
More fun than I realized. After the conversion I got stuck at the www.samsungmmobile.com screen. Here we Odin again!
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Make sure you watch some of Randy Shear's videos on youtube if you're new at this. He very slowly goes through many of the basic steps in putting a new rom on your phone. If you skip a step you cause yourself triple work. Just take your time and watch a few of his video's and just put the rom on your want. His Viper Apoc 4.0.2 video is excellent.