Ok so I trashed my ppc doing the radio update. Since I did the exact thing that Freshster did here is a cut and paste of my problem
" So, I tried running this TMO 4.00.10 upgrade in order to upgrade the radio stack to 6.24.00. While it was doing the radio stack upgrade, it failed at 13% complete. The error told me to "reset the device normally, wait for the radio stack to repair itself, reset the device again normally, then try to run the upgrade again."
After I did the normal reset that it told me to do, my screen got stuck on the ROM Kitchen boot screen and only showed a G, R, and 4.00.05 at the bottom corner, without showing a radio version or protocol version number. The led would not light up anymore. It did not flash green to show that it had signal, and it would not even show orange when it was connected to a charger. "
At this point Im SOL until tomorrow b/c I dont have a SD reader, my question is, can I upgrade the radio via the SD and hopefully get things going again? Or do I just attempt to reload a whole new rom and rsu via the SD card tomorrow. Thanks in advance for your help.
This is just a suggestion, I don't know if it will work.
1. Bootup in the Wallaby Boot Loader (hold power button while soft reset)
2. Press Calender button to bring up radio stack selections
3. Select turn off GSM
4. Reset and see if it will boot up when it doesn't have radio turned on
5. If it will, then set in active sync in guest mode
6. copy the RSUpgrade files to your window directory on the device using the explorer option in active sync
7. copy the two monitor files monitor_ul_bs.map and .m0 to the windows directory
8. reomove the device from the active sync
9. using the explorer on the device find the RSUpgrade executable in the windows directory and double click
10. this should start the radio upgrade going again
GOOD LUCK!
Thanks for the suggestion, I tried it but now luck. The pda stays stuck on the rom kitchen boot up screen. Thanks again.
OK, I had the exact same problem. You have to be patient, when you reset the device you'll get the R blank / G blank because the existing radio stack has now been trashed. eventually the PPC OS will boot. At this point reset again, wait for CE to boot & then reset again, The point is keep resetting the PPC every time you get the R Blank & G blank screen and wait for CE to boot. ON each reset the radio stack upgrade is working in the back ground. After 4 or 5 resets mine came up with R 6.24. at this point I connected the PPC back to Activesync & reran the upgrade & it went through just fine & installed the T-Mobile WM2003 ROM
Pdageek1 is right on the money! But I'll add one more step, remove your SIM card. HTH
I will try this on my way to work. I have another question, is the unit still charging when its on the base even though the charge light is not on? Thanks
I had same problem, if you flash with old t-mo rom it boots up everytime and will allow you to reflash radio stack.
http://www.t-mobile.com/pocketpcupgrade
hello pdageek and thanks for the suggestions. I have left my unit on at the splash screen with the blank g and r for about 5 2 minute sessions with no luck. Im hesitant to leave it on too long and have it eat up my battery. How long in total did it take your pda to boot up with the corrupt radio upgrade?
Sirseymore, the problem I have right now is that I cant even get it past the splash screen, since the OS is not booting up I cant see the unti via active sync.
You can't just it leave setting there with the blank screen you have to keep
doing the soft resets, until it boots!
Also to speed things up a bit during some of your soft resets try holding the volume control button, it similar to holding the hand of a sick person.
I know it sounds funny but hey what the hell, I did it! :wink:
One last note it also might help if you do a hard reset while holding the volume conrol buttom. I know that also sounds funny but hey I did that too! :wink:
HTH
Thanks for all your suggestions everyone. I ended up loade the latest tmobile rom via the loader, I let the pda sit at the Tmobile splash screen for 15 minutes until it booted into CE. Next I copied the necessary files for the RSU into the windows folder, ran the executable and all is working now.
Once again thanks for all the great people in this forum.
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Thanks for all your suggestions everyone. I ended up loade the latest tmobile rom via the loader, I let the pda sit at the Tmobile splash screen for 15 minutes until it booted into CE. Next I copied the necessary files for the RSU into the windows folder, ran the executable and all is working now.
Once again thanks for all the great people in this forum.
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When you say Latest tmobile rom do you mean the 4.00.10 or the latest rom off of Tmobile's Website?
I got the same problem as you did blank g and r
Let me know Thanks, Allen
I'm in the same boat. I was running 4.00.05/stock 6.18 RS on T-Mobile USA.
I decided to try to do the Radio Stack upgrade by copying the extracted rsupgrade and monitor files to the device, and running them. It hung at 13%, so I soft-reset, and it hung at the blank G, blank R, 4.00.05 screen.
I tried turning GSM off in the bootloader, and have removed my SIM card. No luck.
Then, I flashed to the 4.00.10 ROM via bootloader, and I'm still sitting at the G/R screen. I have soft reset a few times, but that hasn't gotten me anywhere. I haven't left it for longer than 3 minutes or so before I get so anxious that I try another soft reset.
There seem to be two bodies of opinion here - those that say you should keep soft resetting until CE boots, and those that say just to leave it and wait for CE to boot (15+ minutes).
Is there any consensus among those that have recovered from now-infamous blank G/R screen? Should we wait, or should we keep soft-resetting?
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I'm in the same boat. I was running 4.00.05/stock 6.18 RS on T-Mobile USA.
I decided to try to do the Radio Stack upgrade by copying the extracted rsupgrade and monitor files to the device, and running them. It hung at 13%, so I soft-reset, and it hung at the blank G, blank R, 4.00.05 screen.
I tried turning GSM off in the bootloader, and have removed my SIM card. No luck.
Then, I flashed to the 4.00.10 ROM via bootloader, and I'm still sitting at the G/R screen. I have soft reset a few times, but that hasn't gotten me anywhere. I haven't left it for longer than 3 minutes or so before I get so anxious that I try another soft reset.
There seem to be two bodies of opinion here - those that say you should keep soft resetting until CE boots, and those that say just to leave it and wait for CE to boot (15+ minutes).
Is there any consensus among those that have recovered from now-infamous blank G/R screen? Should we wait, or should we keep soft-resetting?
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Well i just got mine working FINALLY, what i did was flashed the rom to 4.00.10 and then did a soft reset let it sit for 15 minutes and then it came to the Align screen blah blah blah So just be patient and let the device sit for 15 minutes or so
Good Luck
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Well i just got mine working FINALLY, what i did was flashed the rom to 4.00.10 and then did a soft reset let it sit for 15 minutes and then it came to the Align screen blah blah blah So just be patient and let the device sit for 15 minutes or so
Good Luck
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I let mine sit, and after about 15 minutes, it did finally come back up. I was able to copy the files and manually run the 6.24 RS upgrade, and I think everything is going to be OK now.. *crosses fingers*
I let mine sit, and after about 15 minutes, it did finally come back up. I was able to copy the files and manually run the 6.24 RS upgrade, and I think everything is going to be OK now.. *crosses fingers*
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Well mine is working very good i havent came acoss any errors yet All i did was do the regular upgrade to 4.00.10 and got to 13% on Radio Stack Upgrade when it errored so i took it out did a few Soft Reset's no luck so i flashed the 4.00.10 Rom through the wallaby bootloader got it up waited patiently for CE to load... loaded after about 15 minutes at that time it was running terribly slow and when i got it up i had no service because i had no Radio Stack so i then loaded up this old radio stack well not so old but it was version 4.21 i then soft reset the device started the 4.00.10 install it went through the Radio Stack then the Rom update with absolutley NO errors or conflicts so everything is working great..
Heres something to keep in mind DONT Upgrade To Tmobile Rom 4.00.10 With the radio stack version A.20.10 Or you will be doing what i had to do!
i want to say thanks to all the great people out there posting
Thanks, Allen
JoshB said:
There seem to be two bodies of opinion here - those that say you should keep soft resetting until CE boots, and those that say just to leave it and wait for CE to boot (15+ minutes).
Is there any consensus among those that have recovered from now-infamous blank G/R screen? Should we wait, or should we keep soft-resetting?
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My suggestion is this when you're in deep dodo, try it all! :wink:
Because as your seeing what works for some doesn't always
work for others.
Reflect, sorry I wasnt able to answer the specifics of the rom earlier, I was talking about th 4.00.10 version. Im glad you were able to fix the problem. :wink:
After waiting the 15 minutes to recover from the blank G/R screen, and successfully upgrading the Radio Stack to 6.24 and the ROM to 4.00.10, I've been using it for a day or so now, and I am pleased with the new ROM and radio stack.
Biggest plus for me is that GPRS now stays "always-on", even when the unit is turned off/suspended. I also like the fact that AIM 2.0, and PDF/PowerPoint viewers are included in the ROM.
As far as stability, I have had a couple of lockups (cleared by soft resets), and one spontaneous soft reset, but these could have been caused by software that I have installed (SpB GPRS Monitor, StocksAndWeatherToday, Journal Bar, Battery Bar, PocketNav, AE Uptime, Fonix VoiceDial Premium, Resco Explorer 2003).
I have had a couple of instances where the GPRS connection stops transferring any data, but still shows as connected. Since there's no way to turn off GPRS (SpB GPRS Monitor has a Disconnect button, but it doesn't seem to work), I can clear this condition by turning the phone off (not the unit, but the phone/radio) then turning it back on and reconnecting GPRS.
Thanks to everyone on this forum for your help, support, and ideas! This is a great amateur developer community.
JoshB
P.S. - Reflect, sorry I didn't answer your IM. I was in bed...
OK, I am going to try this once more since I can't stand having a useless phone...lol
I *had* the 4.00.05 ROM and the newest at&t radio stack on my T-Mobile phone (with TM service).
Attempted to install the T-Mobile 4.00.10 rom and associated radio stack via the .exe method over that, and it failed.
After that, I tried reverting back to the old T-Mobile 3.14 rom, via the sd card method. That seems to have loaded, but the GSM is still screwed.
Currently, when I start up the phone, I get the Welcome to T-Mobile startup screen, with 3.14 in the bottom corner. After a minute the G with no number after it is there, and below that, instead of an R is a U? (Maybe because I don't have the sim card in?) With no number. Then I get the "bing" sound, and it goes to a blank screen.
Reading through the posts here, it sounds like I should write the 4.00.10 ROM to the unit with the SD card, then wait for it to start up?
Should I have the sim card in?
When should I try the soft-resetting?
Just as an update, so far so good. I wrote the 4.00.10 rom to the unit with the sd card. Did a hard reset like it told me to. Now starts up with the T-Mobile Test only Not for sale screen. Shows 4.00.10, G with nothing after it, and R with nothing after it. It now stays at this screen though, instead of going to the blank screen. I guess this is a good sign, I am in a position others have been in. Yay! Waiting on it now to do something...anything, and I will attempt the radio fix.
If I have overlooked the thread that covered this situation, please just point me to it as I have made several searches and read several threads but no luck.
I was happily running a custom 2003 ROM with the original AT&T stack. As I was quite happy with the way my 2003 OS was configured and operating, I decided to just try the NEW AT&T radio stack as I wanted to see if it helped with some reception issues I have expereinced. I copied the four radio stack files to the Windows directory on the PPC. I had the PPC in its cradle for power. I then executed the RSUupgrade and at 10% it locked down completely. No hard key had any effect and in fact, not even the soft boot buttom worked. I then attempted a cold reboot and that resulted in a hung machine again.
So, I decided to take the safe route and do an SD flash burn back to the original AT&T ROM (which I had copied way back when). Using XDA Tools I burned it to my SD card. Did the soft/on button routine, and proceeded to flash the memory. If indicated that the checksum matched and was finished. After the cold reboot, I got the old splash screen, but it took forever for the today screen to appear and the START button as well as ALL the indicators at the TOP are missing. I am unable to get to file manager.
I then decided to see if I could connect via ActiveSync. I uninstalled AS3.7. and reinstalled the original 3.5. When I attempt to connect, AS does see that the PPC has been docked, but it is never able to connect.
So, I am unable to reinstall a radio stack of any kind. I am unable to get the OS to function normally.
BTW, Just for grins I also tried an SD card install of the newest AT&T ROM as well as my custom ROM and the results are all the same. I suspect the now corrupted radio stack, but HOW do I purge it and start over when I can't get the OS to boot sufficiently to reinstall the stack
ANY IDEA? HELP!!!
Come on, someone has to have an idea
I will start off with an update. After reading another thread, someone mentioned that initial boot was taking about 15 minutes when there was NO radio stack. I decided to see if that might be occurring to me and sure enough, after about 15 minutes, the PPC beeped and the OS came up. If was still a bit sluggish, but operational. I was able to successfully attach to my PC via ActiveSync.
Now for the downside. Still NO success with installing the radio stack. I have tried reflashing the OS back to the original AT&T PPC2002 OS but that made no difference. I have tried both the original radio stack and the new one, no difference. I have tried to install the stack with the SIM card (SIM not SD) in and out, no difference. It always sticks at 1%, tells me the upgrade failed and to press ok to reboot. I did read the thread that gave LOTS of help regarding this issue, but nothing seems to help. I can remove the lnk in the startup folder, delete the files, reboot, recopy via ActiveSync, start the upgrade (RSUpgrade.exe) and everytime it immediately goes to 1%, sets there a minute or so, the pops up the failure message.
Surely, someone has an idea. Could a corrupt SIM cause this? Is there a alternate way of installing the radio stack?
BTW, just for grins, I thought I would try doing a "normal" exe upgrade since AT&T posted such. I know that it is full of risk, but at this point, I had little to loose. I made sure that I was running ActiveSync 3.7.1 and was connected. I then launched the upgrade. It came up with a splash screen with some warnings and the typical stuff. I then selected the "next" button and nothing happened except that cursor (when pointing in the window) went into the "working" state where it remained until I finally killed it about 30 minutes later. There was NEVER any sign that progress was being made.
HELP!!!
david
I have the same exact problem.
The Start menu is missing. No Icons on the top bar.
What's funny is that the screen seems to be inverted.
When I tap close to the bottom of the screen, the clock setting screen appears.
Anybody have a solution?
I suspect there is an alignment problem
When I first boot up after ROM upgrade, I can get to the today screen with the volume button, but I can't get to the file explorer because the start menu is missing.
When I tap on the lower part of the screen, the upper part responds.
Could this be due to the alignment steps being bypassed?
What order do you have to tap the alignment crosshairs during startup?
This sounds like a different problem
As I mentioned, on my first reflash of the OS after the radio stack upgrade failure, I got the today screen without the start bar at the top (ie it was totally blank and tapping in that area did nothing). Everything else on the today page worked. On subsequent reflashes of the OS, the today page was totally normal, start button, everything in place and working. On those subsequent reflashes, I also got the normal initial screen alignment pages on the first boot after the reflash.
I will also post, that I finally gave up on getting the radio stack to install. I have sent my unit to the guys at PPCTechs. In talking to them, they have 2 other SX-56 units in for upgrades with the same radio stack issue. They feel that they will be able to force the reflash via alternate means using a serial cable. As I mentioned on the other thread where I have been posting, I will post back once I hear if they were successful.
David
in general people should not mess with radiostacks unless they have issues and the radiostack is recommended by the phonecompany one use
Hi,
I'm facing a problem with my customer O2 phone. It's showing "No Service with "!" mark. I have upgraded everything .. but nothing changes ..
It's a hardware problem or Software problem ??
Thank You
ive got the same problem.... can anyone help please.
You need to reflash using the 'radio ROM.nbf' file.
My magician's radio, stops working after the unit reboots after doing a ROM update. The radio works immediately after the inital splash screen (before the extended rom autorun). After this, the radio doesn't work.
If I skip the extended ROM instal, by rebooting the device prematurely, the radio still doesn't work.
I've tried many different ROM numbers. I've even downgraded to the stock ones that came with the unit.
Any suggestions?
Hint: My radio only works immediately after a hard reset, but not after rebooting using the extended ROM (customization). (aborting the customization, the radio doesn't work anyway).
it could be barred IMEI
What now works for me, is enabling, then disabling 'Flight-mode" on the phone.
Hello All and thanks for the amazing work.
I just felt in a problem that I never saw before :
I run CM 4.2.15.1 on the HTC Dream (adp1).
Yesterday I put the Airplane mode to ON, then all Wifi, 3G, GSM went down (as expected)
Today, I put the Airplance mode to Off ; Wifi and GSM is fine, but I can't get a 3G connection.
I tried the sim in another phone which gets the 3G, so I assume the problem is not with the sim, not with the network.
Then I completely wiped out the phone, including the sdcard partitions (fat32, ext4 and swap), then re-install CM 4.2.15.1 without any success.
Would you have any suggestions ?
I have attached the output of the command "logcat -b radio"
PS : sorry if I double posted or if I posted in the wrong part of the forum
guyiom
Ok, I fixed it.
I was running on vodafone netherland network.
the apn settings were right from the beginning.
I decided to switch off phone, and remove battery. after 2 hours, i switch on phone and 3g were back.
I don't know if the shutdown with no battery helped.
Anyway thank you all.
Ciao
guyiom