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Wifi vs. data package

i just got the data plan (i got it for free until the 20th) and i really like it...i've relied on wifi throught all my ppc's and it's served well, but it sux being in an area not finding an unsecured connection...anyways, does anybody know how i can keepw wifi alive when i turn my display off? that's wat i love about the data plan, it keeps the internet on EVEN when the display is OFF...i couldn't get this to work on my 8125 and now not on my 8525..can anybody please help me fix this!!? thnx

anybody?.....

Didn't I reply to this already? Was it in another subforum?
EDIT: Oh yeah now I remember... your the guy that made way too many posts over in the cingular forums... did you get banned?
Don't forget to look at what I posted already about the keep internet sharing on and wifi... have a look around.
And also you can dupe ATT and get the MediaMax plan for 20 bucks if your willing to only use wap.cingular. saved me a ton of money
EDIT#2: yeah here's the other thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341930

uhhh i never read that other post...maybe if you had better directions (or didn't even that answer the question at all) that woulda been better....no need for being stupid now buddy

here ya go smartie... use the search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341398&highlight=internet+sharing

intrglctcrevfnk said:
here ya go smartie... use the search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341398&highlight=internet+sharing
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found that, looks useless smart one..thnx for trying to be a genious tho

wow... you read all of that in 3 minutes? you're the genius here!

i said i saw it befor smart guy...and thnx for the compliments

Ok. I feel better. Guess we got off on the wrong foot.
What I am trying to say is that it might be possible to use the mortscript program to keep the wifi from going into standby:
"Share&KeepSharingViaUSB.mscr" Mortscript
This script is included in the attached .zip file To use this script you must first download and install MortScript from here:
http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?mo...=view&entry=65
or here:
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1448
This is an adaptation of Xiou's Share&KeepSharing script.
It turns off Wifi radio, starts hacked version of Internet Sharing app, connects and turns WiFi radio on. Once one valid connection has been made, reconnects if Internet Sharing enabled status status changes to disabled (ie. a disconnect occurs). Also, keeps device from going into standby mode, to prevent loss of WiFi connectivity.
It's heavily documented so it should be fairly easy to view, modify and understand by looking at it in a text editor.
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So, it might, and I stress might, be possible to use this to keep your phone in a constant state of wifi. However you might not be able to put your phone to sleep.
It applies to internet sharing but could be applicable to your problem.
It might be a hardware issue where the wifi chipset is forced into disconnecting while sleeping.
Seems like when the HTC guys engineered this that they knew the wifi would kill the battery life so they hardwired it to disconnect when put into standby.
It looks like it's not easily done (looking here and at cingular forums). Perhaps the guy at cingy that said to untick the auto disconnect might have a lead.
However I am a genius, but only at the minimum IQ score..
Good Luck

lol kk, thnx for ur help but i think i'm convinced that i shouldn't keep it on as it does seem to waste battery power..thnx for ur help and srry for acting a bit off

just wanted to thank intrglctcrevfnk for the tip about the mediamax bundle. Just added that 19.99 plan to my account, configuered the phone and now have unlimited access.

Howto: Rootless 3G Mobile Hotspot - AP/Infrastructure Mode #Free4All

The DX bootloader situation sucks... Hope this brightens up someones day...
This was tested on a Motorola Droid X Froyo 2.2(OTA) Rooted
Requirements:
Root(just kidding)
Stock 3G Mobile Hotspot Application
EasySwitch(Trial) by SmartDyne(Download from Market)
1. Download and Setup EasySwitch Widget
2. Fire up 3G Mobile Hotspot and wait for it to fully connect up (30 seconds?)
- If this is your first time running through this, open up your browser and go somewhere. You should get the Verizon Self Provisioning page... If not, you're wasting your money.
3. Now use EasySwitch to cycle the Radio *Off* then back *On* (Top row, 4th from the left... you must do this every time after you fire up 3G Mobile Hotspot)
Voila...
I know this process could be refined some... Who wants to help? #Free4All <- That was an invitation for dialog.
setNetworkPreference(ConnectivityManager.TYPE_MOBILE)
Update 10/9/10 2:55pm PST:
Who has root and more than 5 wireless devices? I only have 4...
/data/misc/wifi/hostapd.conf
max_num_sta = 5 <-- increase this number.
Someone test this...

Was Easywidget one of the stock widgets? This may have been some of the bloat I removed.

I believe the solutions is an app that does the following:
setNetworkPreference(ConnectivityManager.TYPE_MOBI LE)
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Was that in the buildprop? If so we can just edit it and be done with the process.

Probably could set up tasker to do something like this
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or just root the phone and download Wireless Tether for Root Users and be done with it.

lu270bro said:
or just root the phone and download Wireless Tether for Root Users and be done with it.
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The difference is you get to utilize Infrastructor mode.

lu270bro said:
or just root the phone and download Wireless Tether for Root Users and be done with it.
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No. Please don't come in a thread acting as if you know everything and have some simple fix with a smart alec response. Wireless Tether is ad-hoc mode, as is Barnacle. This method is access point instead, which some people need specifically as opposed to ad-hoc.

Gimpeh said:
Was that in the buildprop? If so we can just edit it and be done with the process.
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No, not a build.prop thing, it's an application programming thing... Long story short, 3G Mobile Hotspot switches your phone's data connection from "TYPE_MOBILE" to "TYPE_MOBILE_DUN", which shuts down you your data connection unless you you are subscribed to the 3G Mobile Hotspot service. Cycling 3G off/on in EasySwitch switches your data connection back to TYPE_MOBILE, while keeping 3G Mobile Hotspot open.

drewden123 said:
No. Please don't come in a thread acting as if you know everything and have some simple fix with a smart alec response. Wireless Tether is ad-hoc mode, as is Barnacle. This method is access point instead, which some people need specifically as opposed to ad-hoc.
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TY... Not to mention 2.2 OTA broke security on both of those apps and made them really flaky... 3GMH has WPA2 and so far seems pretty stable...

I turn off and on my 3G and it shuts down my hot spot.

Wow! Seems like de-railing happens alot around here lately. LOL, so anyway, anyone up for trying to make a tasker profile for this?

Darkness_Invade said:
I turn off and on my 3G and it shuts down my hot spot.
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Sound like you might have cycled wifi instead. I was however incorrect in saying to toggle 3G, when what I really meant was to toggle *Cell Service* which is 4th from the left on the top row in EasySwitch. If it's still trippin, let me know what mods and such that you're running. I just figured this out earlier today so i don't know all the permutation of why it might *not* work. TY for the feedback.

tekahuna said:
Sound like you might have cycled wifi instead. 3G is 4th from left on the top row in EasySwitch. If it's still trippin, let me know what mods and such that you're running. I just figured this out earlier today so i don't know all the permutation of why it might *not* work. TY for the feedback.
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3G is actually the Up & Down Arrows on Easy Switch. The Cell tower is just your basic cell service (non 3G), although it IS the one you must toggle.
Just wanted to clear that up.
This works GREAT by the way, thank you very much for posting!

LexusBrian400 said:
3G is actually the Up & Down Arrows on Easy Switch. The Cell tower is just your basic cell service (non 3G), although it IS the one you must toggle.
Just wanted to clear that up.
This works GREAT by the way, thank you very much for posting!
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Thanks for clarifying that. Changed the OP so people don't get confused. Guess I should have known that, but I'm new Android and Phone modding in general so some of the basic things slip by me..
Glad you found this useful. Your feedback is much appreciated!

Awesome, but is there any way to do this without EasySwitch?
e.g. adb? terminal emulator?
I just don't care much for payware, let alone crippleware. :/

I tried this at work ( vzw hahaha) on my phone the way you stated and also tried with another coworkers x. His browser redirected him to vzw provisioning page as described, mine did not since I used the method described. However I was still able to connect another phone to both mine and a coworkers phone. Makes me worry about being charged the overage rate. Any ideas?
*update*
When connected to an x, fascinate redirected to vzw provisioning page. So this does work. Question is, will my bill sky rocket Haha. Gonna investigate further.
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tekahuna said:
The bootloader situation is sickening... Hope this brightens up someones day...
This was tested on my: DroidX 2.2(OTA) Rooted
Requirements:
Root(actually, probably not)
Stock 3G Mobile Hotspot
EasySwitch(Trial) by SmartDyne(Download from Market)
1. Setup EasySwitch Widget
2. Fire up 3G Mobile Hotspot
- If this is your first time running through this, open up your browser and go somewhere. You should get the Verizon Self Provisioning page... If not, you're wasting your money.
3. Use EasySwitch to Toggle *Cell Service* off/on(The Antenna Tower, Top row fourth from the left... you must do this every time after you fire up 3G Mobile Hotspot)
Voila...
I know this process can be refined some... Who wants to help?
I believe the solutions is an app that does the following:
setNetworkPreference(ConnectivityManager.TYPE_MOBILE)
This method may work on other VZ Android phones with a 3G Mobile Hotspot...
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if thats the case, why dont we just edit the apk with this option always on and re-sign it again?

AnomynousPierson said:
Awesome, but is there any way to do this without EasySwitch?
e.g. adb? terminal emulator?
I just don't care much for payware, let alone crippleware. :/
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ATM, I'm have not tested any other apps that are free that can provide the needed functionality. The other apps I saw on the market seemed to just switch between 2G/3G, and not actually cycle the data connection off and on. Flight mode cycles wifi too, so that's a no go. ADB/Terminal... I tried other methods for doing this, pppd up/pppd down... no go..
Again, this works because of VZ tries to switch our data connection from "mobile", to "mobile_dun", to try and ferry us down their pay pipe... Cycling cell service switches us back to a "mobile" connection while keeping the 3G Mobile Hotspot running.
This is a Work In Progress... I believe that a widget could be made to automatically catch when the data connection gets switched over, and hijack it back. I have good idea of API calls in Dalvik necessary to make this happen, but it's been about 10 years since I really got down on programming anything, and my thing was web interfaces with PERL, never really got into Java. I am interested in Android Developement, so I'm currently tinkering with putting this widget together, but I currently don't have the know-how to put it all together. So EasySwitch is kind of my Proof-of-Concept tool.
I feel you, though. EasySwitch is just the current work around. Does the job, though...

newtsevo said:
Makes me worry about being charged the overage rate. Any ideas?
*update*
When connected to an x, fascinate redirected to vzw provisioning page. So this does work. Question is, will my bill sky rocket Haha. Gonna investigate further.
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This should more or less be equivalent to Barnacle/Wireless Tether. They all just use your "mobile" data connection.
I believe this to be actually more covert than the "Free 3G Mobile Hotspot for Incredible" method, which actually uses VZ's "mobile_dun" pay pipe, and uses the customers "[email protected]" to authenticate.
So, your bill should not skyrocket.

dr154 said:
if thats the case, why dont we just edit the apk with this option always on and re-sign it again?
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This was another one of the possibilities I had in mind. I don't really understand how to Decompile .APK's. Do you know how to do this? If it is possible to modify the APK, I would actually just bypass the connection switching routine all together, and just move on to starting up the wifi side of things.
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If you know more about possibly making this work in this way, which actually would be the cleanest method possible, I'd appreciate any kind of help.
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^^^ This would run into C&D issues, huh? Back to - mobile()

Wifi calling

Anyone try out wifi calling/messaging yet? I just sent an mms and the "G" appeared even though the cell signal is off and it's supposed to be through wifi. It took longer than when I'm on 3G too...
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i think the mms goes through a diff system when get home ill try it

I believe MMS always goes through cellular data.
This is to prevent an exploit of sending free messages over Wi-fi

funkadesi said:
I believe MMS always goes through cellular data.
This is to prevent an exploit of sending free messages over Wi-fi
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exactlly what he said lol

Ah great to know thanks
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well since this thread IS called wifi calling... id like to post that it doesnt work for me OR my friend who also lives close to me and got the update...
first let me state that ive tried with root and with out root
im on unlimited everything plan
ive checkd my wifi and it works just fine
i have wpa-psk encryption on my wifi
and i CAN make calls on cellular network
so now thats out there first thing i get is a popup saying do you want to register?
if i click yes then it just closes and sends me to the home screen
i open it again and it says wifi calling: enabling, for like a minute or two then it says connection error W006.15 isp or T-mobile Network Error
any one else get that?

V1R3Z said:
well since this thread IS called wifi calling... id like to post that it doesnt work for me OR my friend who also lives close to me and got the update...
first let me state that ive tried with root and with out root
im on unlimited everything plan
ive checkd my wifi and it works just fine
i have wpa-psk encryption on my wifi
and i CAN make calls on cellular network
so now thats out there first thing i get is a popup saying do you want to register?
if i click yes then it just closes and sends me to the home screen
i open it again and it says wifi calling: enabling, for like a minute or two then it says connection error W006.15 isp or T-mobile Network Error
any one else get that?
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Something came up for crackberry users that stopped them from using UMA and since WIFI calling hits the same servers as UMA, i.e... they are the same thing, I suspect that your issue might be the same as what they were having. Your ISP's DNS is blocking the service. If you can change your DNS settings to OpenDNS.com and give it another try. This may not fix your issue, but I know it did for a whole lot of crackberry users.

V1R3Z said:
well since this thread IS called wifi calling... id like to post that it doesnt work for me OR my friend who also lives close to me and got the update...
first let me state that ive tried with root and with out root
im on unlimited everything plan
ive checkd my wifi and it works just fine
i have wpa-psk encryption on my wifi
and i CAN make calls on cellular network
so now thats out there first thing i get is a popup saying do you want to register?
if i click yes then it just closes and sends me to the home screen
i open it again and it says wifi calling: enabling, for like a minute or two then it says connection error W006.15 isp or T-mobile Network Error
any one else get that?
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I get the same error message. Just got off the phone with a tmo rep and she said that there's a signal outage(?) around Atlanta and that's why I can't get ANY cellular connection whatsoever. But I remain skeptical, as my friends on TMO are having no problems and the "outage" just so happened to affect me right after the OTA was installed. My fingers are crossed that everything gets fixed though.

Mines works fine, it depends on what kind of network your on. On my campus it would not work, but when I got to my gf apt it worked perfectly. So check the wifi settings that you haveto make sure there isn't a firewall or something else set up.
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Mine works on my college campus great. I have terrible coverage here. This may be a stupid question but, it only uses minutes when I'm actually calling someone right? Not however long it is enabled? I'm only asking because I'm tired of getting screwed over in ways that I logically shouldn't be.

Yea it only uses minutes when you are calling. Also I don't know what college you go but I go to umiami, so our networks are really strict with regard to using them for gaming or any kind of tethering. So I'm guessing they haven't allowed us access to do that here. But on any other networks like a home network it works perfect.
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I go to Westfield State in MA. I had to get my phone registered on the resnet net work to use the wifi. Can you use wifi at all at school with your phone?
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Crap. I just sorted out my issues with things draining the battery and now Wifi calling is running rampant. It stays running in the foreground even when it is turned off and logcat shows that it is constantly active even when the phone is asleep. Is anyone else seeing anything like this?

well i would like to know why its wifi calling if tmobile still use the mins from your plan thats like stealling it helps tmo they use less data but still charge us for it

Yea genius on their part...even still its not like they're not doing anything. It its still being runs through their network just not through their towers.
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JRG1392 said:
Yea genius on their part...even still its not like they're not doing anything. It its still being runs through their network just not through their towers.
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yea, what he said. Cellular towers are like a gateway to the Tmobile internet. The still pay for all the fiber and backhaul that gets your calls and data where ever it is that you want them to go.

i just updated and i opened up wifi calling and configured it. i dont understand how its wifi calling when it still uses our minutes? whats the point of having it then? what benefit is there to having this app?

Yea we can but we are literally forced to just web browse lol
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T-mobile has had the "charging for minutes via wifi" policy now for YEARS going back to the first Blackberrys that supported UMA. Minutes were deducted unless a customer paid for the @home service per month. You can complain all you want, but if you consider the other carriers and their options---T-Mobile does NOT charge for HSPA+ (4G) access while other carriers do, and some charge even if there isn't 4G in that city just based on the phone! Wifi calling can also prevent you from incurring roaming charges by allowing you to make calls from almost anywhere you can get wifi access a feature that other providers just don't have. T-Mobile gives more minutes for less money, offers more data download than other carriers, and offers some truly awesome features that others just can't compare to.

Although WiFi calling uses up our plans minutes, if we have unlimted weekend minutes, use it on the weekends, is it free or does it take away from the anytime minutes?

Pure Speed V8 Wifi issue

I cold not post in the Development Forum so I will ask my question here. I loaded the July 18 version of Pure Speed V8 and it is a nice ROM. The only issue I have noticed is that the email will not send/receive with Wifi on. I can surf the web fine but just no connection to email. Can anyone suggest a way to fix this? When I turn off wifi, send/receive works fine with cellular network.
Thanks!

cvbcbcmv said:
that's good you can't post in the development forum. Read the forum rules. QUESTIONS DON'T GO ON DEVELOPMENT. It's a big no no.
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Relax dude..he didn't post it there..and as to the op sorry I don't use email that much so when I was on pure depredations I never got to use it and I just don't ever use wifi..but maybe try toggling wifi off then back on?
/Dinc

Its a known issue. Now, I don't use wifi but I have heard that you can get an app like tasker and just set it to automatically stop wifi just before sending a message and reactivate wifi right after the message is sent. maybe for now that would help you.

I can send/receive fine with only wifi on and 3g off...
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After root, phone wont automatically connect to wifi

As title says, I rooted my phone with little issue minus a "soft brick" I guess you could call it. Phone operates normally now except for the wifi. I can connect and use wifi fine, but if I restart the phone, or if the wifi drops, It'll only notify me of networks to connect to, and won't connect automatically to my home network.
This feature worked fine before root and I don't remember having to alter any settings to get it connect automatically. If there's any other information I can provide let me know.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance

creedmyman said:
As title says, I rooted my phone with little issue minus a "soft brick" I guess you could call it. Phone operates normally now except for the wifi. I can connect and use wifi fine, but if I restart the phone, or if the wifi drops, It'll only notify me of networks to connect to, and won't connect automatically to my home network.
This feature worked fine before root and I don't remember having to alter any settings to get it connect automatically. If there's any other information I can provide let me know.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance
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Did you even search in the root thread. It's only been mentioned hundreds of times with the fix. The search button is your friend.

dirtydodge said:
Did you even search in the root thread. It's only been mentioned hundreds of times with the fix. The search button is your friend.
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searching for wifi yields no result that even remotely relates to my problem. If you're having a bad day, you don't have to reply to my thread, friend. Thanks for all the help retard

creedmyman said:
searching for wifi yields no result that even remotely relates to my problem. If you're having a bad day, you don't have to reply to my thread, friend. Thanks for all the help retard
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Funny, the search pulled up a lot of results for me.
If your having issues after you root a device, it's best to search in the root thread of that phone as others may have the same issue. RETARD.
PS. I see the answer in one of these screen shots, that was pretty easy huh.