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Android comes with a seriously awesome web browser. It can easily browse regular desktop versions of web pages even over EDGE with no major problems. I'm so glad to leave crippled mobile versions of web pages behind me forever.
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Google, of all places, seems to have some kind of lock preventing the Android browser from gaining access to the desktop versions of their websites. They come up with the mobile versions by default, and even if you click the button to switch it to the desktop version, it doesn't. It takes you to yet another mobile version that is just styled a little closer to the desktop version, but it's by no means identical.
Google built this browser, they know that it can handle desktop webpages, why won't they let us do that with their own sites? I find it really annoying to deal with crippled versions of Google's web pages. In Gmail I can't edit my contacts, in YouTube... I don't know what the hell's going on... all I see is large ugly text, in Google Search I don't have the convenient switch to image search while viewing web results. It's FRUSTRATING.
chefgon said:
Android comes with a seriously awesome web browser. It can easily browse regular desktop versions of web pages even over EDGE with no major problems. I'm so glad to leave crippled mobile versions of web pages behind me forever.
EXCEPT
Google, of all places, seems to have some kind of lock preventing the Android browser from gaining access to the desktop versions of their websites. They come up with the mobile versions by default, and even if you click the button to switch it to the desktop version, it doesn't. It takes you to yet another mobile version that is just styled a little closer to the desktop version, but it's by no means identical.
Google built this browser, they know that it can handle desktop webpages, why won't they let us do that with their own sites? I find it really annoying to deal with crippled versions of Google's web pages. In Gmail I can't edit my contacts, in YouTube... I don't know what the hell's going on... all I see is large ugly text, in Google Search I don't have the convenient switch to image search while viewing web results. It's FRUSTRATING.
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I really dont know why your browser does that, but I have access to the regular google.com classic view page. I can pic between web, images, local, news.. etc.. I can also log to igoogle.com
I can aswell
Most mobile sites have a link to view the regular site. Google has this.
go to www.google.com then you see on the bottom Mobile is default choice, click on CLASSIC to view the regular website version
Anyone else having an issue with the browser where after a while it no longer renders the pages?
It shows the progress bar filling up and done, but just a blank page.
quedijo said:
Anyone else having an issue with the browser where after a while it no longer renders the pages?
It shows the progress bar filling up and done, but just a blank page.
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Yes I've had that problem as well as not being able to get into market have no clue why. Frustrating!!!
I keep having this problem too. The only thing that seems to solve the problem is a restart. I dont know if it has anything to do with me clearing the cache but it IS verry annoying.
Yeah, even killing the browser process doesn't do it either.
quedijo said:
Anyone else having an issue with the browser where after a while it no longer renders the pages?
It shows the progress bar filling up and done, but just a blank page.
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thats network issues with thew the 3g when i disable 3g it worked but sometimes it wont
i think it has to do with your cache i wish they come out with a new firmware that lets you save programs to sdcard or cache to sd card
I'm having the same issues. It was working when I first got the phone, but now it only gives me the option for mobile view.
I found a solution to the most annoying, biggest mistake from Google. For those who loved iGoogle and cant find it, here it is:
www.google.com/ig/i?source=mofe
And here is an alternate BETA site from Yahoo as backup:
http://beta.m.yahoo.com/
brooklynite said:
I found a solution to the most annoying, biggest mistake from Google. For those who loved iGoogle and cant find it, here it is:
www.google.com/ig/i?source=mofe
And here is an alternate BETA site from Yahoo as backup:
http://beta.m.yahoo.com/
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I guess Google found out the shut down the site.
Yahoo's Beta sucks.
I can't figure out a way to get to MySpace.com via the phone's browser. Any attempt to visit the URL just gives me an ad for the Android app (which I hate). There are links to the (worthless) mobile site and the desktop version of the site, but the link they provide to the desktop version just gets intercepted by their stupid advertisement again, making it inaccessable. Does anybody know a workaround for this problem?
I really wish there was a browser setting to tell the browser to just identify itself as a desktop browser instead of a mobile one, I can't stand it when I get automatically redirected to a mobile version of a site every time I visit it.
Welcome to the world without Microsoft where everything is called "OPEN" but your every move is limited and controlled.
I have noticed many other "controls" in the browser which I hate. None of that stuff ever happens on MICROSOFT products, everything is REALLY open, not "open source dictatorship", Google style.
yea that myspace desktop version being unavailable is really annoying being that the desktop version works better and faster than the myspace app itself....i dnt even understand how it is blocked and y!!!!
brooklynite said:
Welcome to the world without Microsoft where everything is called "OPEN" but your every move is limited and controlled.
I have noticed many other "controls" in the browser which I hate. None of that stuff ever happens on MICROSOFT products, everything is REALLY open, not "open source dictatorship", Google style.
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This has nothing to do with the phone. This has to do with the website itself. You never have these issues on MS products because MS products don't let the webserver know if it is a mobile browser.
I like your misguided conspiracy theory thou... keep it up.
surely you can change how the client identifies itself, im sure this is in IE settings, or was that opera, or a reg setting, ho hum ...
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I can't figure out a way to get to MySpace.com via the phone's browser. Any attempt to visit the URL just gives me an ad for the Android app (which I hate). There are links to the (worthless) mobile site and the desktop version of the site, but the link they provide to the desktop version just gets intercepted by their stupid advertisement again, making it inaccessable. Does anybody know a workaround for this problem?
I really wish there was a browser setting to tell the browser to just identify itself as a desktop browser instead of a mobile one, I can't stand it when I get automatically redirected to a mobile version of a site every time I visit it.
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Just go to home.myspace.com and you will be taken directly to the desktop version
Solution...
just type in us.myspace.com and the desktop version will come up...
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I believe that windows mobile phones do allow website to know that it is running a mobile version. Thats why when you go to so many websites via a WM phone it takes you automatically to the mobile version.
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It doesn't work correctly half the time. I am a web developer and have had more issues with the wings browser than the G1's.. There is a reg setting but I can't change other peoples reg settings.
And before you know it we will have the same settings on the G1 to do similar things.
hello all.
i would like your thoughts and tips on running on your xperia. more than %90 of my desktop webbrowsing is from reader. i read and skim through over 1200 items daily with 60 feeds
unfortunatly i havent managed to use the reader effectivly on my mobile device. i use opera mobile(wifi) + ucweb (bandwidth friendly). here are some of the problems that prevent me from using the reader
-using the mobile page www.google.com/reader/m is only good for toy phones and lacks too many features
-using rss hub is too bandwdth hungry and wastful (i read the contents of about %40 only)and does not sync with google reader which is too important
-using the iphone page www.google.com/reader/i on opera mobile is not nearly as good as the desktop experiance + bandwidth hungry with all the big pictures if you open the stories+ buggy when opening the stories
-using the iphone page on ucweb or operamini is too buggy cant even go to next page and cand even open items
anybody can help by providing me with your experiance and tips on what works best for you
it seems the only real way is for google to realease a dedicated app (bandwidth and finger friendly).
I'm actually working on a windows mobile google reader application/panel......
...you are right though, the mobile webpage does lack features and functionality of the desktop version.
Forgive me if I am mistaken but you are looking for an rss reader correct? (If not then please disregard all that follows)...
I use Newsbreak and its pretty decent... there are a couple of threads about (perhaps more on the wider board rather than just the x1 part) rss readers and so forth, they have a list of some pretty decent ones and it even lists their abilities and pros and cons etc... If I can find it I will post it... but that probably wont be till friday as I dont have a lot of time to search at the moment...
Shadowdh, google reader is RSS but i cant Sync with another client with it so i can pickup where i left from the desktop
emuneee, that is so cool. if possible, can you address my concerns especially the low bandwdith part (maybe just disable all pics and flash will be good enough) and an option to download all unread stories locally to the machine.
please keep us posted
Maybe you should try pRSS Reader. I think it syncs with Google Reader, you can view the posts offline with pictures, it can even download the full article (the link) if you specify it.
http://code.google.com/p/prssr/
Too bad it's discontinued.
darthmelk said:
Maybe you should try pRSS Reader. I think it syncs with Google Reader, you can view the posts offline with pictures, it can even download the full article (the link) if you specify it.
http://code.google.com/p/prssr/
Too bad it's discontinued.
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Thanks for this recommendation, using it now and does sync with my google reader account.
It is a shame that it's been discontinued, but it does seem to have as many features as other RSS readers out there.
Update on pRSSreader data usage
Just thought i'd give a warning to those wanting to use pRSSreader to sync with their Google Reader service.
This program uses a LOT of data!
I'm using SPB Wireless Monitor to watch how much data each program uses since i'm on a limited data plan. In about 8 hours of usage, the program used 9.4Mb of data.
This bad part was that this was without downloading the pics or whole articles for offline use. The program itself is great, but I would recommend scheduling it to update through WIFI and not automatically using GPRS.
i too am suffering greatly from out-of-the-plan accedantal extra data usage
is there a way to prevent certain app like prssreader to even use the GPRS/3G connection. there must be some kind of trick to do this
i just want to allaw ucweb(or opera mini) and activesync to have access to the 3g/edge cell data connection since they are effecient in data usage. other "wastful and expensive" apps like opera mobile , prss, should only be restricted to wifi
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i too am suffering greatly from out-of-the-plan accedantal extra data usage
is there a way to prevent certain app like prssreader to even use the GPRS/3G connection.
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You can disable auto updates in the program and only do manual updates when you have your wifi on. Wifi takes preference over an active 3G connection anyway.
You can also set it to auto update when docked to your pc so it uses your pc's internet connection, or set it to update at a certain time. This way if you have a profiles program (like GProfile), you can set the Wifi to turn on at a certain time to match this.
fxcoupeman83, what you are saying is exactly what i am doing but accedental mistakes happen (a lot in my case)
preventing apps from using the cell connection is the only clean way of solve the problem properly
There's a program called 'NoData' which you should get. It stops programs from accessing data connections. http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata
crabby
that thing blocks everything
i dont want to block email or ucweb
hi
i've just found this wonderful piece of software i was looking for a long long time, prssreader. it does exactly what i want : sync my google reader on mobile... what a pity that it is discontinued........
the data consumption is not really a problem for me as i've an unlimited 3g data plan, but it's sure less data would be better
what i'm looking for in a windows mobile rss reader is :
-bidirectionnal google reader sync (with read/unread/starred states)
-ability to download ALL the feed for offline reading
-ability to send feed via email (with internal mailer if possible)
-quick reading of feed header and quick toogle of read/unread state for articles you don't want to read
-send feed to social networks (twitter, facebook, etc...)
thanks for the future devs
ps: it seems pRSSreader is already doing most of my requests, except the last two ones though
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what i'm looking for in a windows mobile rss reader is :
-bidirectionnal google reader sync (with read/unread/starred states)
-ability to download ALL the feed for offline reading
-ability to send feed via email (with internal mailer if possible)
-quick reading of feed header and quick toogle of read/unread state for articles you don't want to read
-send feed to social networks (twitter, facebook, etc...)
thanks for the future devs
ps: it seems pRSSreader is already doing most of my requests, except the last two ones though
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I will take all of that into consideration...as well as the feature about only using Wifi to sync during development.
emuneee
when do we expect a beta version of your reader?
THE GRIZZ said:
emuneee
when do we expect a beta version of your reader?
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I'm shooting for the second half of April. I'm making good progress now.
thanks for the update. really looking forward for this. to me having a proper reader is more important than even a general browser
two questions:
-is it going to be finger friendly? especially for go ing to next item, starring and marking as unread
-can you view youtube videos though flash player?
I used to use Monilink a lot on my old Nokia. It is a Java app which you use to manage your bank account, it comes direct from your bank.
Anyone managed to use it under Android? I can't even get the wap push message to arrive when I register. I think it is arriving but the phone is ignoring it because when I put my sim in a different phone the message arrives every time!
doesn't work.
use the text message service from your bank.
There's a new version of the software coming out 1st weekend of December which will work with newer touchscreen phones, but still nothing for android or windows mobile yet.
the download link is just wap.monilink.co.uk/download.wml
i'd stick with the text alerts.
ballandbiscuit said:
I used to use Monilink a lot on my old Nokia. It is a Java app which you use to manage your bank account, it comes direct from your bank.
Anyone managed to use it under Android? I can't even get the wap push message to arrive when I register. I think it is arriving but the phone is ignoring it because when I put my sim in a different phone the message arrives every time!
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Wow, I didn't think anyone used MoniLink anymore! I was on the testing team for the bank when it was first launched, it never seemed to take off.
rhedgehog is right, looks like it will be coming out shotly, its just in testing, but this is not for Android / WM, they are not looking at this yet.
I used to find it quite good for quickly checking balances etc. Have to investigate the sms option to see if you can just send a text and they reply with balance etc. Perhaps before long the banks will make a version of internet banking with formatting for iphone/android etc as the full blown sites are rather clunky and slow when on the mobile.
Yes, you can. Each bank has a slightly different number, but in general you text BAL or MINI to that nuimber and it sends you back your balance or a mini statement.
ballandbiscuit said:
I used to find it quite good for quickly checking balances etc. Have to investigate the sms option to see if you can just send a text and they reply with balance etc. Perhaps before long the banks will make a version of internet banking with formatting for iphone/android etc as the full blown sites are rather clunky and slow when on the mobile.
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Don't think you'll really ever get that from mainstream banks, especially the one I work out. It seems their attitute to mobile banking is that the industry changes too much and they can't afford resources to suit every mobile phone.
With computers, you have the main browsers like IE, FireFox, Safari, so they make it work for those, but others are a bonus. There are so many platforms and browsers for mobile, they just won't do it.
The bank I work for made me laugh when the iPhone came out and they advertised that their internet banking was made iPhone friendly like they made it like that, truth is, they just got lucky!
sad thing is, monilink are just releasing a version for the iphone. They are then updating for the other mainstream touchscreen phones (nokias and samsungs etc) in december...but nothing for us.
Sucks really.
Java
I would also like to get this running,
I am getting the message through with a link to download the app, I then paste this link into my java Midlet Manager, IE opens and and says it cant find the link, I f I was able to get this downloaded i dont see why it wouldnt run in the Midlet Manager ?
Any halp will be much appreciated.
Merry Christmas
I find using NatWest online banking on Hero quite ok. I used to use monilink on my windows mobile phones as the opera browser seemed incompatible. But all the browsers I tried on Android work without any problems.
I set up my fourth. yes fourth, V20 last week (the perils of buying used phones on ebay!) and all seems good. But I noticed a couple of days ago that whenever I try to download the page I'm viewing on chrome, it begins to download but then I get the message,
Download unsuccessful
Download is canceled The content is not valid to download
The pages get the tick in the notification bar and show up in the downloaded section, but when I click on them, there's nothing!
I've tried switching to data and have never had any issues with other phones doing this. I'm still on the stock ROM and not rooted. I'm in the UK and viewing UK sites, this is really odd. Does anyone have any suggestions as I caouldn't find anything when I searched online
This obviously isn't the place to ask for help with a Google app. Contact Google through email about their Chome app.
Would anyone have any (useful) suggestions regarding this? It's highly unlikely to be a chrome issue as I've never had problems on any other phones in similar situations (obviously I tried to contact them and went on their forums but I couldn't find anyone who'd experienced the same issue). I can't get the full UK keyboard due to some random geo lock on the H910, that's why I was wondering if anyone had any V20 specific suggestions?
I'd have happily moved to a Chromium based third party browser but I need the sync capability so that the bookmarks are also available on my desktop, so it's Chrome or Firefox as things stand (not really a fan of Opera).
As an aside - I've not found a solution to this and it's NOT limited to Chrome, it is the same when I run Brave, a Chromium browser. So the issue isn't purely Chrome.
It's a sizable pain in the posterior when travelling - it's great to be able to download a selection of web pages before setting off into areas with very patchy signal. I used to use Pocket, but I'd much rather know why I can't use the native function.