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Just saw the videos from the htc desire Z and wow. The main thing I want is that htc fast boot. It literally took the phone 4 seconds to boot up. You think we will ever see the light of day on that for our Evos?
Is that an Evo in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
Link to vid?
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Yea its the second video they have posted.
Www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htc-desire-z-hands-on/
Is that an Evo in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
mmanjj said:
Yea its the second video they have posted.
Www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htc-desire-z-hands-on/
Is that an Evo in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
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damn - that is fast. But my takeaway from that vid is the fact that lansdcape sense should now be doable.
Yea. If they can do it for sliders it shouldn't be too hard to do it officially for our phones. Love that boot up speed...
Is that an Evo in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
I was more excited about landscape sense. The fastboot is defiantly cool but a feature that isn't too useful since my phone is pretty much always on.
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I was sort of hoping maybe Sprint & HTC would do an update for the EVO . Since we have a kickstand and all.
zone23 said:
I was sort of hoping maybe Sprint & HTC would do an update for the EVO . Since we have a kickstand and all.
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Exactly - Although at this point I'm too attached to launcherpro to go back to sense, the fact that I couldn't use sense in landscape with the kickstand is what pushed me to launcherpro in the first place.
Yeah that fast boot was pretty impressive.
All sorts of HTC love going on today. Wild.
landscape sense ftw
here's hoping they update us (wont be holding my breath)
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Yeah that fast boot was pretty impressive.
All sorts of HTC love going on today. Wild.
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I don't have the audio so please correct me if I'm wrong; but to me it looked like they demonstrated the startup time for Sense, not the whole phone. i.e. Android will still take its usual time to start up, it's just the Sense portion of it (the very last part before you see the unlock screen) will be faster. If that's true, overall it will be a marginal improvement.
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I don't have the audio so please correct me if I'm wrong; but to me it looked like they demonstrated the startup time for Sense, not the whole phone. i.e. Android will still take its usual time to start up, it's just the Sense portion of it (the very last part before you see the unlock screen) will be faster. If that's true, overall it will be a marginal improvement.
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HTC GUY: And that's the boot, its ready to use.
Camera Guy: Was that the whole boot
HTC GUY: Yes, we've done a lot to improve boot time etc.
So I'm guessing it is the boot time.
I want landscape sense!!!!!! Now!!!!! Lol... When can I haves it?
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While some have noticed that the "fastboot" was incredibly fast another video showed the phone booting up and taking longer.
Read somewhere, was a couple hours ago, that a reboot was the speedier of the two, not necessarily powering up a cold phone. Is that the case? Maybe I misread, but I forgot where I saw it so I can't really go back and read again ... maybe I missed something. And I probably did, have been drinking.
Pretty impressive I hope this comes to the EVO.
why do you guys want landscape sense? don't see a use for it. But I do like the new status bar and the customization as well.
I would like landscape sense because, if I were to be using a sense ROM, I constantly hold the phone in landscape. So when I go from here to homescreen I have to turn the phone, which is incredibly taxing for me rolleyes and this would solve the issue.
As it stands, have used CM6 damn near the whole time it's been out, but I understand why people want it. A buddy got his new Evo and this was something I noticed. He'd go from portrait to landscape to portrait to landscape and he was like, dude, this is getting old. I had to agree with him. I know the widget solution ... yeah, sure, but it looks awkward.
Ah hope this is released for evo.. looks great.
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This has to be released for the Evo, its HTC sense.. so it should arrive on the incredible too.. if they only choose 1ghz devices. What I'm wondering is how and when will this be implemented.
They're launching htcsense.com next month, maybe this will include updates for in use devices.
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Chyeahhhhhh boy!!!! I definitely cannot wait for this!!!
So my evo is starting to act up, wondering if the epic would be a viable replacement?
Anyone done this or have any input on it?
Mostly use my phones for the tether, texting and killing time at work.
Thanks for any help!
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Not much of an upgrade unless you want the keyboard or a slightly better screen if you ask me. If your phone is acting up it may be software related? Try flashing a different ROM or something
Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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The Epic is better then an EVO overall..but it boils down to is it worth for you to spend money buying a new one...
your usage is mostly fairly simple, I guess you'd have better time texting if you use the physical kb I guess...or if by killing time you mean running high end games..then Epic would definitely be an improvement..
I mean what do you mean by "acting up" and "killing time"..be a bit specific?
I'll tell you this though Epic runs really awesome stock with little to no issues...
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Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Let us answer that question after official froyo is released and/or Cyanogen mod is fully ported.
I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
Thanks everyone
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I just recently got the epic over the evo, due to the beautiful screen and so far I'm thrilled. The Evo is a very nice phone and I'd say on par with the epic but the epic has the keyboard along with a super amoled screen. Some say the 8MP camera is a plus for the evo but personally I'd rather have a samsung 5mp than a htc 8mp, just due to their reputation. But both take beautiful pics, so it really comes down to is the keyboard and amoled with gorilla glass worth it for you? I rarely use the slide out, mostly swype, but for long emails, texts, etc the slide out is extremely useful!
So evaluate the pros / cons and see if its worth it for you! I'm more than happy I went with the epic!
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D3luSi0n4L
I agree with D3luSi0n4L, you just need to evaluate the pros/cons as they pertain to you. I'm overall pleased with my Epic because IMO the screen quality is superior and I like to have a physical keyboard (especially when traveling, Emulators play nicely with keyboards ) The only hangup with the Epic is the lackluster support from Samsung. If you really like playing with new ROMs and constantly tweaking your phone, then the EVO will be better for you. Lets face it, HTC phones just have more support behind them. Hell, even the Hero is still getting updates...
Like i said, figure out what's most important to you and go from there.
The epic is a viable replacement. Its noticeably smaller though, even if its only .3 inches. That might make a difference. Other than that its basically the same+keyboard. And froyo isn't out officially yet. and there's a considerable difference in development for the epic and evo...so you might wanna take that into account too, although stock dk28 froyo is good enough. I've been running it since it firs got leaked and my gps is perfect and everythin else works. Even the browser. Wen froyo is officially released, this phone will easily beat evo
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Oh and swype is preinstalled lol
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Evo has Swype since last week's update.
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Basically the phones are very similar. You should try to see about that warranty before you drop a load of cash on a phone that isn't all that different. Are you out of warrantee/due for an upgrade? T-Mobile Nexus S looks yummy
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Will have to agree with this statement. But again, this is MY OWN personal thoughts on it. I have both phones as well and I find myself using my EVO a lot more than my Epic. Not saying that the Epic is not a good phone because it is a good phone.
At the end of the day though, its all in what YOU want and what works best for YOU. Thats something no one can speak on. Either way, your in a win-win! GOOD LUCK!
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I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
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I remember hearing someone say they had this issue on multiple EVOs..not sure if its true or not but this is not an issue on the Epic.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
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Well both phones can do what you want...things come to mind is our Inferstructure tethering is right now 2.1 only, hopefully will be fixed soon..if ad hoc or wire tethering is what you need 2.2 works...as for mp3, we got 5.1 surround sound option if you have headsets that support it..
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
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Boils down to your financials..I say go play with an Epic at the store to get a feel for it before deciding though...you can load up 2.2 on their demo phones while they arent looking too lol
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
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A lot of people use swype..most ppl use kb for long messages and gaming...in my case I need kb for remote desktop programming in emergencies...I use on screen kb by default...but I do enjoy using the physical kb for when surfing the net..I so hate using the onscreen kb when surfing webpages on all phones in general..mostly since..
1) web is ment to be surfed vertical resolution anyways
2) the onscreen kb popping up is a mess that blocks my screen :/
hence the physical KB makes surfing the net more enjoyable for me at least..
If you would like to know what we got going over the EVO its:
1) Better processor
2) 3x better GPU
3) 6 axis accelometer
4) super amoled
5) keyboard
6) Better camera
7) Better Audio
8) Gorilla Glass
9) Built in video drivers such as xvid/divx/mkv etc
10) and more...
and probably a few other things I'm missing...I'm not saying the Epic has no flaws..but its definitely a step up hardware spec wise..
Can anybody see the distortion in Sense 3.0? I can see it a lot, especially with analog clocks and text.
pianoplayer said:
Can anybody see the distortion in Sense 3.0? I can see it a lot, especially with analog clocks and text.
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give it time, they just came out.. were you around when 2.2 first was leaked.. the bugs will be ironed out. we have good devs here
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Can anybody see the distortion in Sense 3.0? I can see it a lot, especially with analog clocks and text.
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i have no idea what you mean lol im trying to see how this m10 decoder works...can you be more specific with disortion?
I think he's talking about how everything looks squished down and stretched a little. I think it's due to the difference in Screen Size, since most of the ROMs started out as ports to the EVO or EVO Shift.
Uber Kingdom
I'm about to download Uber Kingdom which is running Sense 3.0
I'll take a look but I have heard people say that widgets do look distorted.
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i have no idea what you mean lol im trying to see how this m10 decoder works...can you be more specific with disortion?
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AgalychnisCallidryas said:
I think he's talking about how everything looks squished down and stretched a little. I think it's due to the difference in Screen Size, since most of the ROMs started out as ports to the EVO or EVO Shift.
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I'll give you a visual example - the extensions in my Chrome.
Originally, they look like this:
http://j.mp/jTAwv6
But after distortion, they look like this:
http://j.mp/jYbL0t
The distortion is off by about 7 percent, so it is a lot less than what is shown, but in real life and a larger image size, 7 percent is a lot too.
ACD168 said:
give it time, they just came out.. were you around when 2.2 first was leaked.. the bugs will be ironed out. we have good devs here
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Yeah, I've been here since November, so I have no idea how a new leak works. Sorry if I'm being too impatient.
I kinda like the distortion (well don't mind for now). The icons seem a little smaller and yes i can tell they are "squished" but doesn't bother me too badly, other than my girlfriend doesn't like her pictures now because they make her look slightly short and wide....
Hello all, I am using Evil D's Sense 3.0 rom and so far it is perfect, but my only issue thus far is the blurry pics that show on the contacts/mms apps, i was wondering if anyone has been able to find a fix for that, as i havent had this problem on any other sense ROM...thanks in advance!
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Hello all, I am using Evil D's Sense 3.0 rom and so far it is perfect, but my only issue thus far is the blurry pics that show on the contacts/mms apps, i was wondering if anyone has been able to find a fix for that, as i havent had this problem on any other sense ROM...thanks in advance!
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Sense 3.0 was developed for at least qHD phones. Since our phone isn't qHD, the ratios are going to be off. Putting things out of place and making some pictures blurry. Nothing can really be done about it.
neidlinger said:
Sense 3.0 was developed for at least qHD phones. Since our phone isn't qHD, the ratios are going to be off. Putting things out of place and making some pictures blurry. Nothing can really be done about it.
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ah ok, im willing to live with it , thanks for the response
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ah ok, im willing to live with it , thanks for the response
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I'm sure the developer is working on, trying to resize thing. But stuff takes time. So just hang it there. I
lol yea im definitely going to hang in there, i wanted the sensation, until i saw that it can run on other devices fairly well, so im glad i dont have to drop an insane amount of money for yet another headset lol i hate the 6-month phone's shelf life
Well guys, I don't honestly know what to think about the new OTA. I tried it but wasn't overly impressed with it. However the speed and battery life is kinda nice. I still feel like it is lacking some features that a GB update should have had and I also feel VZW and HTC rushed this one. What do yall think?
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I suspect that the OTA will be a good base for future mods. I like it, but some of the features that I take for granted after using CM7 are missing.
I ran the leak for a while, I really liked it because of speed, but I can't believe they took mobile network, airplane and silent mode out of the power menu.
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I suspect that the OTA will be a good base for future mods. I like it, but some of the features that I take for granted after using CM7 are missing.
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Thats a good point. I love CM myself, been a long time fan.
I've been using the rooted leak version for about 24 hours now, moving from an EVO based mod. The new one is definitely zippier, even on scrolling, etc. I'll keep using it, but looking forward to new custom builds once the source is out and modders get their hands on this kernel.
Well, this wasn't supposed to be as big a thing compared to when FroYo was released. Expectations of that magnitude for this release were not realistic.
Differences aren't visual per se, rather just a few functional ones.
All in all, gingerbread, meh.....
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For me, it's a few things.
Feels unfinished. What I mean is some things are not what i expected. For example, i use google talk alot and with Froyo, the icon in the bar was a Sense based one. Now it's just Google Talk. This is fine, but i have to ask - was this on purpose? or a slip up?
next, I don't like NOT being able to disable ALL animations. In froyo, i could turn off the clock animations, weather ones and even the OS ones. I like that. In this one, I can't... only OS.
I have a had a few FC's with google voice setup (cleared up once configured) and Scrabble rarely notifies me of a move, but those could be app related.
battery life remains to be seen since I need to charge my phone all the way up while powered off.
it's definitely quick, but it took like 5 minutes before I started missing Synergy. Looking forward to seeing what can be done with the update.
It's a nice temporary fix for my ocd rom flashing but i think devs and most others are waiting for the final ota with some bug fixes. Isn't this lacking the new radio as well? Otherwise I am really happy it looks like they fixed the low space /data/data notification.
If we are lucky the devs will pump out some amazing roms for us that are stable and fast. Just gimme pulldown widgets, 5-row apps, recent apps in notification, and remapped rosie buttons and i'm set!
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snip Isn't this lacking the new radio as well?
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The ones posted in this forum are missing the radio but that is because the source that gave it to our devs asked that they not include the radio when they compiled and uploaded the rom. For what reason? Who knows....
I think the update should've added sense 2.1..
I miss power toggle pull downs and right rosie, but other than that, everything for me just works and works fast. If someone can add some 2.1 features, that would be nice. Been on this since it came out, zero issues, zero lag. I use my phone for business with some music, dont install more than zbout 4 apps. Everything flies. Look at it this way, if no other roms could ever have been ported over, is this a good update from when you first got your dinc? I say hell yes. The ports are great, im not baggin cause ive flashed every rom here, but this was made for our phone. Could it have had 2.1, sure, would it have worked as good, i doubt it. All ports have some issues, all be it very minor, but they also develop lag and more issues the longer you use them. Im willin to wait a week and see what happens, im sure we will see a different ota eventally, fat lady aint singin yet.
curious about battery life
I've been using miui and have been getting good battery life. I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the new ginger
All I could think about was how ridiculously fast Sense 1.0 would be on any Gingerbread ROM.
If i were a dev I would definitely be cooking up a clean, streamlined, unbelievably fast Sense 1.0 ROM for users who don't need what 2.0, 2.1 and 3.0 have to offer.
That being said, as far as the OTA goes... We'll see?
I like the speed of this OTA, too. It's very snappy. But I'm having a problem with voice input recognizing speech. Is this a problem for anyone else?
I was using bluetooth and I said open calender and it would randomly pick a number to call from my contacts.
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It's a problem with GB in general. Try using voice search while driving and you can scream in the mic until you're blue in the face. It won't recognize anything you say.
Is that just for GB Sense based roms? I have never had a problem with voice input on CM7.
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Is that just for GB Sense based roms? I have never had a problem with voice input on CM7.
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It might be a combo of things. All I know is it worked perfectly for me on Froyo.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=4399393a95831baa&hl=en
It was fun to try it out and it's fast, but I went back to Community RC5. I won't be looking back, im sure OVO will rip whatever is good and stick it in community.