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Annoyance with WM5 behaviour related to number cut and paste

Thought I'd throw this one in incase I'd missed something.
There appears to be some basic failings in the ability to cut and paste phone numbers between various applications on the WM phone.
Take the example that I receive a SMS text message from someone not in my contacts database.
I know who the person is and I want to create a new contact entry using the received phone number.
There appears to be no way of cutting or copying the phone number from the messaging section and pasteing it into a new Contact.
Or it may be that I already have an entry for the person I just don't have their mobile number number in the contact record (or what ever new number is received).
Have I missed a trick here - or indeed is this a limitation that exists. If there is a work around I'd love to know. i just have such an appauling memory for numbers that I couldn't even remember between flicking between applications - let alone the scope for error.
Thanks

Re: Annoyance with WM5 behaviour related to number cut and p
Open the message (instead of just reading it from the list or notification window). You'll note that the From: field is already selected.
Press the Menu softkey, then Save to Contacts.
Simple as that

OK so that allows you to create a new contact. Once you have them in contacts you can do a copy of the number and paste it into an original record. Then delete the new contact just created. Ideally I'd like to miss out the intermediate step of creating another new contact - for those where I know I already have a contact entry, but just not with that particular number.

I agree with you.
There should be an extra choice after save to contact.
Like new contact/ add to contact.
The same with email. If i want to add an emailadres it makes a new contact.
An other problem i find is that copy/ paste is not always available when i select a text.
When I rename a file in file explorer I can't select the word and copy/paste by "tap and hold".
Now i use GSPocket Magic to copy/ paste

You would have thought that on the, what is it, 3rd iteration of WM they could have sorted this out.
It is behaviour like this that can make all the diference between something that is really user friendly and something which is torturous.
Hopefully there are some influential people who read this that can feed it back to the powers that be.

You can try PQz fot copy/Paste : http://www.nicque.com/PQz/
This there too : http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33343

open up the message, where is says the from tap and drag on the screen to highlight the number then tap and hold on the highlighted but then when the menu opens click copy

Caller name instead caller number in SMS

Hi folks,
TIM Brasil send me ans SMS with all calls I've lost. useful when I flying, at arrival I saw who call me.
The problem is the SMS contain the caller number, time and date, so I need to search at Contacts to discover the caller name.
Someone know a piece of software able to look at phone number inside of SMS and scan the Contact to match it, showing the name of the contact?
Best regards

Any ideas?

Here in Italy vodafone sends a similar SMS but sets the sender name to the one who attemped to phone you
In this way the phone shows automatically the name (if it has been stored in contacts)
To quickly discover who's the owner you can do two things:
1) if the message contains "This number +xxyyyyyy tried to call you..." press the down key (the number should be selected by a square box) click and your phone should start dialling that number (doing a lookup in contacts and showing the name)
2) you can remember the first numbers (excluding the international prefix) press "red phone", "green phone" (to quickly start the phone application) and use the hermes' smartdialer to quick find who's the owner.

Try using SPB Diary...

Make sure your numbers are in the international format.

LinoX said:
Here in Italy vodafone sends a similar SMS but sets the sender name to the one who attemped to phone you
In this way the phone shows automatically the name (if it has been stored in contacts)
To quickly discover who's the owner you can do two things:
1) if the message contains "This number +xxyyyyyy tried to call you..." press the down key (the number should be selected by a square box) click and your phone should start dialling that number (doing a lookup in contacts and showing the name)
2) you can remember the first numbers (excluding the international prefix) press "red phone", "green phone" (to quickly start the phone application) and use the hermes' smartdialer to quick find who's the owner.
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In fact this work, but is not exactly what I want, because after a airplane trip the SMS has 3 or 4 numbers. So I need to call/abort 3 for times... It's not elegant way.
thanks.

madhero said:
Try using SPB Diary...
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What is SPB Diary???

spb diary is a diary application in form of today plugin..
but as far as I know it can't do what you're looking for.

WM developer
Hi Guys,
I'm trying again... Is there a WM developer here who could develop a little plug in to do it?
I think is not complicated, but I don't know WM development to do it.
Of course this could sold to the community.

i had once a siemens sl45 and when i had a phone number in a sms it replaced it by the name in the phonebook... i so miss that feature..... i haven't seen it on other phones since then...

I'm not alone
Finally someone understood what I'm saying.
It's very useful this feature. I'm wondering if someone could develop this.
Anybody as a volunteer?

Maybe this is what you need?
http://www.saman-cz.com/ppc/index.html?drfovrw.html

Its work - It's great
Thanks Moe,
It's exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you.

Anyone else with caller ID problems?

Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone else might be having a similar problem with 'caller [or texter] ID'.
Most networks, as I understand it, use the international dialing code when sending out texts and calls, meaning this is usually the incoming number when you recieve a text or call.
I've obviously got people programmed into my contacts who text me but when they do, I don't get their name, I get their number - with the dialling code eg. +447750500500. When I tap to go into the threaded mode, I'll get all previous contact with this person but with them identified only as the number. However if I head to the People tab, then again to see the messages I've sent/recieved with that person, I get the same messages only under the banner of their name and not the number.
I believe calls work fine with the code programmed in on their contact profile.
Anyone know why this is being caused?

I have the same problem. Both calls and text messages.
I don't think it matters if the international code is there or not.
Really frustrating not knowing who calls.

I've had this problem first time the device was initialized (right after opening the box). It might be caused by the fact I didn't have any SIM in it at that time, I'm not sure.
After a hard reset with a SIM inserted, everything started working as it's supposed to.

Hmm, I've changed the SIM, but I can't remember if it worked wih the first SIM card.
But a hard reset deletes everything, right?

There are a few things you have to be sure of:
Do not have double contacts, if you have a number (with and without operator/country prefix) twice in your list it will not show any name.
I don't know if this applies if you have a contact on your phone memory and on your sim card. I am sure it does have this problem if you have two contacts with the same number on the memory phone.
For some reason this is logic: On an incoming call, the phones checks it's phonebook and retrieves two numbers and then it does not know what to display, is it contact one, or two?
I hope this helps you out. I did not experience any problems (yet).

AndrewCZ said:
I've had this problem first time the device was initialized (right after opening the box). It might be caused by the fact I didn't have any SIM in it at that time, I'm not sure.
After a hard reset with a SIM inserted, everything started working as it's supposed to.
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Try this....
1. Edit one "test number" in your contacts and remove international codes.
Just put that "test" tel number. without int. codes... And make sure that number is not stored nder another contact. (No duplicates.)
2. Then dial from that number and see if that tel# is identified. If you have just "0xx-123456" then go to #3.
3. Go to registry and change of the Caller ID match rule. (Minus one digit.)
Example: Caller ID rule:8 (Change from 8 to 7 or 6 to 5 .. trailing digits for Call ID match. )
* HKCU\Control Panel\Phone\CalIidMatch value:7
4. Restart and test again...
5. If its OK, than test with SMS.
6. If its OK again , put back your international codes and test again.
7. If not go to no.3
Hope this helps.
KraFT

samluke said:
Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone else might be having a similar problem with 'caller [or texter] ID'.
Most networks, as I understand it, use the international dialing code when sending out texts and calls, meaning this is usually the incoming number when you recieve a text or call.
I've obviously got people programmed into my contacts who text me but when they do, I don't get their name, I get their number - with the dialling code eg. +447750500500. When I tap to go into the threaded mode, I'll get all previous contact with this person but with them identified only as the number. However if I head to the People tab, then again to see the messages I've sent/recieved with that person, I get the same messages only under the banner of their name and not the number.
I believe calls work fine with the code programmed in on their contact profile.
Anyone know why this is being caused?
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Hi guys!! i had this problem too but i have fix the problem. what i do:
!) i store all my contacts in my sim card and delete the contacts in the phone.
2)do a hard reset
3)upon doing the hard reset, the phone will prompt you on importing sim contacts and finding your service provider. select both and and press ok
4)now try to call from your house to your phone to do a check.
5)my problem was solved after this
hope it helps!

KraFT_mk said:
Try this....
1. Edit one "test number" in your contacts and remove international codes.
Just put that "test" tel number. without int. codes... And make sure that number is not stored nder another contact. (No duplicates.)
2. Then dial from that number and see if that tel# is identified. If you have just "0xx-123456" then go to #3.
3. Go to registry and change of the Caller ID match rule. (Minus one digit.)
Example: Caller ID rule:8 (Change from 8 to 7 or 6 to 5 .. trailing digits for Call ID match. )
* HKCU\Control Panel\Phone\CalIidMatch value:7
4. Restart and test again...
5. If its OK, than test with SMS.
6. If its OK again , put back your international codes and test again.
7. If not go to no.3
Hope this helps.
KraFT
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What was happening to me before the reset was a bit different - the phone wasn't able to match anything at all - even a number called from the phonebook and stored in "recent calls" in EXACTLY the same way it's in contact, didn't match to the contact when redialed.
I think that something required for Caller ID to work gets done when the phone is first initialized, and that this step requires full access to the phone module (which the phone doesn't have without a SIM inserted and a proper PIN entered).

hi,
i encountered also that worry,
i set the HKCU\Control Panel\Phone\CalIidMatch value:9
my mobile phone number to test was stored as "06xxyyzzww"
and when i phone my diamond2 from that number
the caller id is recognized
(with showing as +336wwxxyyzz)
i tested from my home phone stored in contacts as 04wwxxyyzz
i rang my topaz its was identfied as my home,
(with showing as +334wwxxyyzz)
i am in france, + is for 00 ,our phone numbers are 10 digits long
(mobiles and "home") ,
to be joined from abroad, you have to dial +33+phone number WITHOUT the first digit "0")
so the "9" value i put in the registry
if it could help you
regards

Hi,
just stumbled over the same problem.
The old phone (HTC P330) resolved numbers from my used format 01234-56789.
Since my contacts are a mess, I have 01234-12345, +49-123456-456, +49 (0123)-456 and so on, it would be a great pain in my ass to switch every contact to +49123-456 (which the new phone resolved).
I compared the Registry-Entry from the P3300 with the TD2 and voila: TD2 was 12, P3300 had the value 8.
I changed the TD2 to value 8, reboot and now I'm happy again, the phone is getting used to my contact list
Regards
Heiko

Hi,
I'm experiencing the exactly same problem, that incomming calls or messages isn't shown by name, but only by number.
I'm all new to Windows mobile, but I tried downloading a regeditor, and experimented with different values in the CallIdMatch string. However, no succes.
I live in Denmark, where numbers look like +4512345678, where +45 is the international code. Can someone please tell me, what should be the correct value? The original values was 8.
I have further found that some contacts are recognized. What the difference is between the groups, are however unclear!

Caller ID problem, my solution
I had the same problem. But after a hard reset it seems to work just fine now. Remember to backup your downloaded programs etc before doing this.

Tyven said:
Hi,
I'm experiencing the exactly same problem, that incomming calls or messages isn't shown by name, but only by number.
I'm all new to Windows mobile, but I tried downloading a regeditor, and experimented with different values in the CallIdMatch string. However, no succes.
I live in Denmark, where numbers look like +4512345678, where +45 is the international code. Can someone please tell me, what should be the correct value? The original values was 8.
I have further found that some contacts are recognized. What the difference is between the groups, are however unclear!
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Hi,
"8" should be the good figure for you, as in France
we have phone numbers +33987654321
and "9" is the good value for me, in:
HKCU\Control Panel\Phone\CalIidMatch value:
Edit: i remove previous "edit"
in fact all my contacts had been erased" so it was normal to have no caller ID?
ps: is your carrier sendind all the figures when you're receiving calls, i mean +4512345678
so perhaps you're encountering a bug .
you should try to backup your device, with a soft like spritebackup(special price for htc owners on their webpage) and experiment an hardreset
and restore
regards

Hi ,
did you ever try to change the following:
RegistryEdit and Decreasing the CallIDMatch from 12 to 7 solved my Issue
See below
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Phone" name="CallIDMatch"
Greetings from Slovenia

Hello,
that is my first post so please do not be very critical to my english level and PPC skills .
now this is an old thread but for BULGARIA the correct registry value is "9". Here the mobil numbers are as follows "08xx 123456" (9 digits without the ZERO at the very beginning). that is why the usefull number is that (default for my TD2 was 8). Now after this fix the phone can correctly identify which number i want to dial when i am inserting it by digits, instead of selecting the exact person. i do not know am i explaining correctly but i will try to put some more detail on that. When i want to dial some particular number (for example "08xx 123456") the phone select me the correct contact no matter how i put this contact in memory. with "+3598xx 123456" or only with "08xx 123456". before that intervention the phone identifies me the correct contact only if i type the digits, exactly the same way that i have added it to the memory. So i think that this registry key does not have a universal resolution. the resolution depends on how many digits is using tha particular mobile operator.
i hope that will be helpful for someone who is happy to own an HTC and is happy with it ... like Me

cant call someone from the contacts list

this is probably easy to fix or just an error on my part.
I'm using the official rom with some theme mods.
So when i go to the contact list, click on a contact and then click the "call mobile phone" entry for that contact, the option gets activated/grey background, just to get deactivated half a second later and it never actually dials the number (same with people in the favorites list)
The contacts are stored on the phone and copied over from my blackstone, so I know the numbers are all valid.
Anyone got any ideas? Any help would be appreciated
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oh and i can dial just fine when i hiz phone on the today screen, go to the menu and choose "open contact"
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I just realized, when I'm on the contact page of a contact (where you see there phone numbers and so on), I can click Menu -> Show more information, which takes me to the "old" contact page (as it used to be in wm 6.1), where calling someone works as well.
So there are ways around this, it's just annoying having those 2 more presses just to call a number.

What's the best way to go about using SIP/Voip on my HD2?

Hi all,
So I'm picking my HD2 up for my birthday next week and have already done a ton of homework (aka reading of the Leo forums here at xda) on the device but have a question...
I have a voipcheap.com account to make free/cheap international phonecalls from my computer. I assume it's viable to use SIP/this service on my HD2 (I've tried on old handsets with varying results, which seem to come down to the hardware being rubbish)
What's everyone using to make calls via their internet calling accounts, and have you successfully used the 'audio routing' tweak to route calls to the normal ear speaker?
Thanks

Mr Baig
I think the best way to go about SIP is using softwares like Fring or Nimbuz

lowcaller
Hi!
VoIPcheap.com is just another phone service offered by Betamax. For a full list, see this page: http://backsla.sh/betamax
For all the Betamax brands, there's a great way of doing VoIP calls from a WinMo phone: go to http://www.lowcaller.com/en/index.php , choose your service (voipcheap.com in your case) and download the cab for your phone (yes, there IS a version for the HTC Leo). Once you download it, it will create an icon on the start menu. Select it, input your voipcheap id and password and your mobile number and UNCHECK the "auto lowcall" (or whatever it is called) option. Tap on "Save".
From this point on, you won't need the lowcaller icon anymore.
To make a call, go to your contact, tap on Menu=>See more information, then Menu => [scroll the menu down] and you will see the Lowcaller options.
I've been using lowcaller for a while now, and it works very well.
Hope this helps...
ccristal

ccristal said:
Hi!
VoIPcheap.com is just another phone service offered by Betamax. For a full list, see this page: http://backsla.sh/betamax
For all the Betamax brands, there's a great way of doing VoIP calls from a WinMo phone: go to http://www.lowcaller.com/en/index.php , choose your service (voipcheap.com in your case) and download the cab for your phone (yes, there IS a version for the HTC Leo). Once you download it, it will create an icon on the start menu. Select it, input your voipcheap id and password and your mobile number and UNCHECK the "auto lowcall" (or whatever it is called) option. Tap on "Save".
From this point on, you won't need the lowcaller icon anymore.
To make a call, go to your contact, tap on Menu=>See more information, then Menu => [scroll the menu down] and you will see the Lowcaller options.
I've been using lowcaller for a while now, and it works very well.
Hope this helps...
ccristal
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Fantastic - sounds like this would do the job!
1 week 'til I've got my HD2 and I'll post back here with my results.

Just reporting back to say that lowcall appears to do the job perfectly (just made the 1 call right now, in a dodgy 3g area!)
Many thanks to ccristal for the tip-off, more people need to know about this little cab for sure.
Now for another question (sorry!) - is there anything that exists which takes advantage of the SMS service in Betamax clients like Voipcheap.com? I use the text service occasionally to text internationally so it'd be great if I could access this on my phone.
Trust the xda-devs to be on the case!

Actually, you can send sms using lowcaller itself. If you select a contact from the WM contact list (not the Manila one) and you open the menu, you will find a menu item to send a sms to that contact using lowcaller.
cccristal

SMS92 said:
Just reporting back to say that lowcall appears to do the job perfectly (just made the 1 call right now, in a dodgy 3g area!)
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It's important to point out, however, that the call is not a full VoIP call. When you use lowcaller, you actually call an access number in London, and it's only from that point on that the call is forwarded using VoIP. Here's how I think it works under the cover:
there are 3 numbers in the game here: your number, your contact's number and the lowcaller access number.
you select a contact in your list and call it using lowcaller;
a data connection is opened, and your own number and your contact's number are sent to the lowcaller server;
the lowcaller server associates the two numbers with an access number taken from a pool, and it returns the access number to the lowcaller client running on your phone;
the lowcaller client dials the access number;
the software running on the server identifies your number and the access number you are calling and retrieves your contact's target number from the mapping established at step 3, after which connects the call.
This has an interesting side effect: after the first call to a given contact, you can associate the access number that lowcaller actually called with the contact as if it were your contact's own number. From that point on, every time you dial the same access number, you will actually call your contact, without a data connection being opened at all, since the mapping between your number and the contact's number is already stored in the table for that access number.
Not sure if I've been clear enough... but please do feel free to come back to me for any additional question you may have.
ccristal

ccristal said:
It's important to point out, however, that the call is not a full VoIP call. When you use lowcaller, you actually call an access number in London, and it's only from that point on that the call is forwarded using VoIP. Here's how I think it works under the cover:
there are 3 numbers in the game here: your number, your contact's number and the lowcaller access number.
you select a contact in your list and call it using lowcaller;
a data connection is opened, and your own number and your contact's number are sent to the lowcaller server;
the lowcaller server associates the two numbers with an access number taken from a pool, and it returns the access number to the lowcaller client running on your phone;
the lowcaller client dials the access number;
the software running on the server identifies your number and the access number you are calling and retrieves your contact's target number from the mapping established at step 3, after which connects the call.
This has an interesting side effect: after the first call to a given contact, you can associate the access number that lowcaller actually called with the contact as if it were your contact's own number. From that point on, every time you dial the same access number, you will actually call your contact, without a data connection being opened at all, since the mapping between your number and the contact's number is already stored in the table for that access number.
Not sure if I've been clear enough... but please do feel free to come back to me for any additional question you may have.
ccristal
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do you have to associate the access number that lowcaller called to your contact or is it an option?

Audio Oblivion said:
do you have to associate the access number that lowcaller called to your contact or is it an option?
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No, you don't have to. If you don't, every time you call the same contact a new data connection will be opened, and a different access number may potentially be chosen. However, if you do associate it, you won't need to go to the WM contact page to get to the lowcaller menu, since the number will be visible from Manila and can even be saved as a shortcut.
ccristal