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Disable GPRS? Save Money?

Ok so I just got a bill for using GPRS on my cell while away on work and recieved a lovely surprise - $NZ68 ($US41) for [email protected][email protected]?!?!?! Wow, talk about getting ripped off - thanks Vodafone.
Anyway thanks to the wonders of this new, inclined to get online, Jamin, I'm wondering if theres anyway to disable GPRS from being the default connection and even disabling/breaking it completely? Even when I'm at work, plugged in to my PC via USB, with wifi abound it still insists on dialing up on GPRS everytime - something that if I can't control will no doubt end up costing me a fortune.
Any ideas?
Also is it just me or is WM5 designed by idiots with little too no interface design experience? Wheres the pick which wifi network to attempt to log onto setting?

I'm wondering if theres anyway to disable GPRS from being the default connection and even disabling/breaking it completely?
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This will work for shure: Start/settings/connections/click on connections icon in advance tab select internet connection, edit and delete setting for internet connection.Be carefull not to delete any other connection.
Better before deleting write down all settings for that connection on piece of paper so you will be able to reestablish that connection any time in the future with no much hassle.

In answer to your second question - YES it was designed by idiots.
But seriously when WiFi is on go to:
Settings->Connections->Network cards.
You will see a list of all WiFi networks your device encountered (even those that aren't actually near you). Tap and hold on a network will give you the option to connect to it, or delete it's settings.

Thanks for that. Will get on to breakin GPRS temporarily.
Meanwhile - will the next WM OS actually be good? The more I use the Jamin the more I wonder if Microsoft has any idea of what the consumer wants? 'Keep it Simple , stupid' Should be their rule.
NOT - get crappy and outdated operating system, copy most of its flaws and then sell it as the next generation of portable OS's. For everything thats great and what I want in a phone OS, theres 3 things that make me annoyed. Lets see how it goes - I wonder if WM6 will be like vista - 3 years late, need a whole new phone (obviously) and then have few new features but transparent windows and security that should have been included in the first place.....
Oh well, rant over.

will the next WM OS actually be good?
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Yes it will,once when majority of users shifts to linux :lol:

TyTN II keyboard buttons for Tilt?

When I get my Tilt I'll wanna purchase the TyTN II's buttons, I just dont know where to get any. someone have an idea?

mikeeey said:
When I get my Tilt I'll wanna purchase the TyTN II's buttons, I just dont know where to get any. someone have an idea?
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Can't help you out on where to acquire the keypad. However, like most, I saw pictures of the Tilt and thought the keyboard was quite ugly. But now that it's in front of me, I like it a lot. It makes it much easier to make a quick dash to those number keys.

TaurusBullba said:
Can't help you out on where to acquire the keypad. However, like most, I saw pictures of the Tilt and thought the keyboard was quite ugly. But now that it's in front of me, I like it a lot. It makes it much easier to make a quick dash to those number keys.
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really? well that's good to know, yea i guess i will just have to see.
when did you get your Tilt? and what state are you from? im still waiting here in washington for a shipment to arive. it sucks having to wait knowing it's in other states.

TaurusBullba said:
Can't help you out on where to acquire the keypad. However, like most, I saw pictures of the Tilt and thought the keyboard was quite ugly. But now that it's in front of me, I like it a lot. It makes it much easier to make a quick dash to those number keys.
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I have to agree. When I saw pictures, I thought it was horrible. But then I thought about it... it will be much easier to see the number keys if they stand out so much.

For AT&T Tilt /Kaiser/TyTN II Owners like me....
Well, it was hard for me to get the AT&T Tilt! They advertised (on internet/newspaper articles) that they'd have the phone by Oct. 5th, but I called a gazillion AT&T stores in the Wash. DC area and NONE of them had the phone. The following day, I tried a store in Springfield, VA (1 out of about 15 stores that I called!) and they had the phone! I purchased the phone and I must say that I am happy with it. However, the battery life is not too long (using MSN Messenger, 3G, and Wi-Fi) as the phone must be recharged every 6-8 hours (without talking on the phone!) after using it. It also gets slightly hot/warm!
Now, here are my questions:
- Where in the world is the theme being used on here: http://www.htc.com/support/support_htctytnII.htm My phone only has 4 themes and none of them is the one shown on the page above.
- Where is the "Internet Sharing" program for 3G broadband connectivity (to the laptop)? I think AT&T only included a way of using the phone as a dial-up modem, but NOT as a broadband/3G modem! In the official HTC TyTN II site, they mention a way to connect (via broadband?) to the 3G network by using a program called "3gnetopt.exe" on our laptops and by using a "Internet Sharing" program found on the phone! I could not fine any of these on the CDs that came with my phone! I downloaded the 3gnetopt.exe from this site (xda-developers is the best!), but I do not have the "Internet Sharing" program on my phone. What can I do? Any ideas?
Thank you!!!!

mrneras2 said:
Well, it was hard for me to get the AT&T Tilt! They advertised (on internet/newspaper articles) that they'd have the phone by Oct. 5th, but I called a gazillion AT&T stores in the Wash. DC area and NONE of them had the phone. The following day, I tried a store in Springfield, VA (1 out of about 15 stores that I called!) and they had the phone! I purchased the phone and I must say that I am happy with it. However, the battery life is not too long (using MSN Messenger, 3G, and Wi-Fi) as the phone must be recharged every 6-8 hours (without talking on the phone!) after using it. It also gets slightly hot/warm!
Now, here are my questions:
- Where in the world is the theme being used on here: http://www.htc.com/support/support_htctytnII.htm My phone only has 4 themes and none of them is the one shown on the page above.
That theme is for the TyTn II, not the Tilt. If you want that home screen, read this thread.
- Where is the "Internet Sharing" program for 3G broadband connectivity (to the laptop)? I think AT&T only included a way of using the phone as a dial-up modem, but NOT as a broadband/3G modem! In the official HTC TyTN II site, they mention a way to connect (via broadband?) to the 3G network by using a program called "3gnetopt.exe" on our laptops and by using a "Internet Sharing" program found on the phone! I could not fine any of these on the CDs that came with my phone! I downloaded the 3gnetopt.exe from this site (xda-developers is the best!), but I do not have the "Internet Sharing" program on my phone. What can I do? Any ideas?
You won't need to install anything extra onto your desktop to run Internet Sharing. The program is on the Tilt, but ATT just removed the shortcut to it. Check out the \Windows dir on the phone. You'll find the .exe there for it. Just connect your phone to your desktop via USB or BT and start up Internet Sharing. The drivers should automatically install on the computer and you'll be good to go.
Thank you!!!!
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So, that should do it. Have fun (and be sure to search the site before asking a question).

mikeeey said:
When I get my Tilt I'll wanna purchase the TyTN II's buttons, I just dont know where to get any. someone have an idea?
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www.cnn.cn has they TyTN II Keypad. (click on HTC and then TyTN II) They sell it for 9.99. I have purchased blackberry housings from them before without a hitch.
Edit: Here is a link to the keypad http://cnn.cn/shop/tytn-iitilt-inner-keyboard-p-2058.html

csurfr, this is a great link!
Thank you.
It's especially useful for foreign-language users, who want to engrave their language on the keypad, and the engraving doesn't succeed for some reason.

G1 802.1x Support

Hey guys i'm thinking about getting this phone or the tilt. Main reason is i know WM6 supports 802.1x wifi security modes, which my school uses EAP-PEAP. i dont know whether or not the g1 supports it. Does it? i've been googling for a bit and nothing comes up. Thanks in advance.

shaokang said:
Hey guys i'm thinking about getting this phone or the tilt. Main reason is i know WM6 supports 802.1x wifi security modes, which my school uses EAP-PEAP. i dont know whether or not the g1 supports it. Does it? i've been googling for a bit and nothing comes up. Thanks in advance.
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All I can see is WPA and WPA2 it doesn't let me configure it further. So I am going to guess no... I don't have any EAP or RADIUS routers to check.
But even if it doesn't have it... it can always come out later cause it is just software.

damn how long will it take........honestly i believe they released a half baked product anyway hopefully they'll do it in time before i get my tilt.

shaokang said:
damn how long will it take........honestly i believe they released a half baked product anyway hopefully they'll do it in time before i get my tilt.
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You have to remember this product has only been out a week and a half and already they sent out a firmware update. Most other HTC devices don't get updates unless its from WM 6 to 6.1
Google likes to release things that are just bare minimum and use your feedback to build the rest. You will probably see quite a few firmwares being released. Remember this is all to benefit you. While it may be "half baked" to you right now... in the future it will include all the things you need... but not all those things you hated about other OS's

oh they already have firmware updates out? thats cool. Thanks

PEAP and 802.1x
Developers! I wish that i could contribute but i'm not a programmer. I am however leading a group of students on my campus to use the G1 to it's fullest potential. Everything from Gapp's to media sharing. The issue now is that there is no support/options for PEAP authentication on our campus environment. We have some of the best wifi coverage of most campus's i've been to but it defeats the $200 bill of the G1 if i have to rely on the edge network.
Is there any developers I can test configs for? I'll be a tester and can usually report back quickly.
needed configs for campus:
-WPA
-TKIP
-802.1 and PEAP
-AD username and Pswd
Thanks!
Jolopicus

It should work fine if you have root and set up the wifi connection manually with a custom wpa_supplicant.conf, the iptables thread in the development section would be a good start for reading what ya need to do. the default wpa_supplicant.conf on the device has all the settings possible in the comments.

Hi all,
I bumped this topic instead of creating a new one. So i hope this the right way. If i should make a new topic please say so. But this was the closes and only thing i could find about the topic.
Is there any information about getting RADIUS or 802.1x working on the G1. (My campus has this and i like to have internet access on my phone there as i do not have a data abbo).
I read that rooting your phone is a option, but i am not sure what image i should use and how to install it so i hope there is a way to do it on 1.6.
Looking forward to your replays.
Pimmetje

I have connection now with a WPA-PEAP network. That one is working but the raduis (8.02.1X) still shows up as web

Can I use X1 as a wireless bridge?

My home wireless router and my PC are just close enough to connect, but the signal is a bit poor. Sure I could fix this in a whole number of ways, but I was wondering (as you do) could I use my X1 as an network extender? Essentially using it as a bridge between my PC and router to get a better signal?
Anyone know if any software of this nature has been developed?

yes and also as oven and fridge
i don't think is possible but anyway im not sure

thanks for the (not very) helpful reply. i know you can get software to turn the x1 into an access point (using the mobile connection for internet access) so im guessing its only one stage on from there to make the x1 perform the same functinality but connected to a wireless AP instead of the mobile networ kand thus acting as a bridge.

Why don't you buy an network bridge instead of using your phone as one. A cheaper one is no more than a SD card.
I don't know, but it's kinda dumb task to do for a phone... even if the phone is able to complete the task.

Why don't you buy an network bridge instead of using your phone as one. A cheaper one is no more than a SD card.
I don't know, but it's kinda dumb task to do for a phone... even if the phone is able to complete the task.
Because, as I said in my first post, there are loads of ways of solving this problem but I was wondering if it is possible and if anyone has done it.
Sure I could go out and do the boring thing and buy a bridge but then I would never gain any knowledge about the subject and engage in discussions with other people that think the same way.
You go ahead and solve your problems the easy way - by purchasing a mass made box. Me - I want to find out more about how things work and what is and isn't possible, not because it's the easiest or best solution, but because I like to learn.

Hi
I guess it could be possible theorically
im not in knowledge of any sw to do that
But anyway i think even if there is a sw the thing is that if you want it
just for fun is ok but using it as a real bridge it can drain the battery of X1 in few hours and the phone could get very hot ...
So maybe for practical use the box should be better
good luck

wmwifirouter could help?!
regards

wmwifirouter
yeah i think wmwifirouter is the right thing for you.

enom said:
yeah i think wmwifirouter is the right thing for you.
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I use it on my skool.
Everything is blocked and I am the only one with high H. So I share my H trough WIFI using wmwifirouter. Been doing that since my Kaiser Hate my skool.
Only problem is. Apple users.. Iphone/Ipod Touch. Can't always connect.
But other phones with wireless, laptop etc. Can connect.

[Q] Any way to boost wifi reception?

Hey guys,
I've just switched to the HTC Legend and I absolutely love it so far. Great device and I'm very happy I changed to Android from my brother's old iPhone 3G.
One thing I've noticed, though (like a lot of the phone's reviewers) is the crappy WiFi reception. I expected it to be bad... but not this bad. I have to be either in the next room to the router or upstairs directly above it to get signal above 1 bar, and if i move 10 feet away it cuts out entirely.
Contrast this with the iPhone 3G or even the HTC Touch2 I had last year, which were both able to pick up WiFi from my backyard or the street out front (both 15 meters away from the router). I'm not expecting the power of my laptop's wifi radio, but is there any way to boost the reception on this thing? It's not the end of the world cause I have a fair bit of data included in my plan, but it's nice to do some guilt free youtube surfing around the house without worrying which room I'm in.
Cheers,
Jennan

Simple. Either update your phone's radio firmware or buy a range extender for your router.

Ah, thanks for that. I'm fairly new to smartphones, how would I go about updating my radio firmware?
Cheers

Can anybody help me out? Cheers

jennan88 said:
Can anybody help me out? Cheers
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What's your phone's software version number?

I checked the HTC website today and followed the step by step guide to finding out what my software version number. Unfortunately for me, it was up to date, so it looks like this is as good as I'll get Wifi radio wise.
Thanks for your help though

I find the WiFi reception reasonably good. Remember where the WiFi transceiver is positioned (to the left of the camera) and make sure you don't obscure it with your hands. Also, check that your router is not on the same WiFi channel as your neighbours (and ideally about 3 channels clear either side). You can use WiFi analyser from the market to survey your WiFi.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

Just to clarify - that's the left of the camera as viewed from the front of the phone.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

Get high gain atenna(s) for your router?

boost wifi ?
I have same problem. My previous HTC diamond had much better WIFI reception.
I found here a more recent rom from the one I have and all instructions needed
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706435
mind the **
keep in mind that in order to upgrade radio you need to root the phone and doing so you'll invalidate warranty.
That's why I am waiting for Froyo update and then I'll decide if to root or not

A less practical, but theoretically valid solution, would be to take apart your Legend, and add a bigger wifi antenna. Just replace the black bit surrounding the camera, and bolt on a small satellite dish. Point it at the router, you'll be fine.

If you were to use a ROM that let you hold the phone at upside down, and still see the screen "the right way up", that may improve the Wifi reception, it worked with the Network.
I'm using SuperFroyo