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Got the MY3G, did all the good stuff (rooted, CyanogenMod v4.0.4, Apps2SD, etc.,). However, after I configured Apps2Sd and the SD card with the partitions I could have swore I had 289MB (or something close to that) of free internal storage. I have installed numerous apps and it went down to 278. I know the Apps2SD worked, however what is taking up those 10 megs??? After I noticed this I began rebooting the phone after app installs to see if maybe the apps need to be pushed to the SD card during reboot. No luck. If anyone can throw me some advice or point me in the right direction that would be badass.
Thanks.
You do know cache does take up room? Also if you installed apps thats why it went down. its normal
your_helpfull_hand: This is my first Android based phone so thanks for taking it easy on me. Ok, I forgot about the cache....So, if I understand this correctly the apps will install on the SD card but the internal memory will still slowly decrease but not all crazy as if I was installing straight to the phone??
One more thing, after configuring Apps2SD how much internal storage should be left with (the phone being clean after loading Cyanogen)? As I mentioned I was originally left with 288MB or close to that. Is that about right? Should it more or less?
you should install the cache2sd app that's in the market since you have root. search "root" or "cache" to find it.
I used that app, stopped using it because when i went from browser back to gtalk had issues. Also to the OP it just matters how much you formatted for your ext3. I did a gig so I really don't care how manny apps i have. Also as of now i'm using 7mb of 89mb on internal so don't have any issues. Don't worry you have Apps2Sd don't worry unless you formated your ext3 for only about 150mb.
Today it opened my phone and it shows my sd card as damaged and all the apps are crashing all over the place, so i reverted to a backup and same deal, i installed the stock htc hero rom and it worked fine, i did a wipe and installed modacos 3.1 again and it finished but all the apps started crashing again and it had all the apps that i had installed previously, how do i restore my phone to a clean stock version of modaco 3.1 without keeping all my apps installed!?
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Today it opened my phone and it shows my sd card as damaged and all the apps are crashing all over the place, so i reverted to a backup and same deal, i installed the stock htc hero rom and it worked fine, i did a wipe and installed modacos 3.1 again and it finished but all the apps started crashing again and it had all the apps that i had installed previously, how do i restore my phone to a clean stock version of modaco 3.1 without keeping all my apps installed!?
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Sounded weird, can agree with that. Are you using apps2sd? Try do a backup of your sd-card, format it, wipe and install ROM. Dont restore a backup or something.
Now copy ur files back to the sd-card and see if it makes any difference
Yeah, it sounds like your ext2 (or ext3/ext4) partition for apps2sd is corrupt. It may even be an issue with your SD card. SD cards are not optimized for ext2/3/4 partitions, and as I learned through running android on my Vogue, it's rare, but your SD card can become permanently damaged by using this filesystem on it.
If formatting your SD card like sinnadyr suggested doesn't work, I would re-partition the entire card, making your FAT32 partition smaller by maybe 512MB and have everything else the same size. This will obviously result in 512MB less usable space on the card, but at that point I don't think you'd have another option anyway.
(I may be off about the size of 512MB... I'm tired and drunk and can't be bothered to look up the actual size of the swap/ext2 partitions.)
If all else fails, try a new SD card.
Your Hero can be saved
Ok... I've had this... and this is how I solved it:
-save what you have to from sd to pc
-format sd
-partition from scratch
-reboot
-put what you saved previously back on
-done
sounds easy, but it actually took me AGES in between finding out and doing it.
In my case it was due to a combination of using a program to move the cache to SD AND mounting the SD card WHILE some app was doing something (APP2SD was enabled). All I know is I never used the cache to SD program again and 3.1 is now running smooth on my hero.
Good luck
Ciao
p.s. If the steps above do not seem to work just do all the Wipes, load another rom, play with it for 2 mins, then re-do all the wipes and start off. I know I'm being a bit confusing but trust me, problem will be solved eventually. Just make sure u have plenty of time when u start the whole process
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There's a guide somewhere how to repartition your SD card through ADB, this is what I did when the same thing happened to me and the partitions were corrupted.
Why do I still see stuff in /sdcard after wiping and ODIN-ing JFD and re-wiping? How do I really turn my phone back to factory?
I'm having some flakiness with some of the new ROMS, and I am pretty sure it has nothing to do with the ROMs. Specifically, I have a problem where my phone will wake up after receiving a text message and never go back to sleep. Also, several times my phone will boot into a situation where it cannot see any towers (almost like airplane mode). Just general flakiness. So, I want to put my phone back in its newborn, fresh out of the box state and start over. However, I still see all of the files and directories in /sdcard that were in there before I wiped (from recovery). Strange.
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I actually did this earlier today because of a major problem with the music player. I transfered all my backups to my computer then went to Settings>SD Card and Phone Storage then scrolled down to Phone Storage and selected Format SD Card. After I formated the card, I installed JFD with Re-Partition checked. After Odin did its thing, I let the phone reboot and copied a rom to my internal card and the Clockwork update.zip. Installed the update zip through stock recovery and the rom through Clockwork.
Hmm, that didn't work for me. Sure, my external sd card is clean now, but /sdcard still has all the same files in it. Is it safe to just rm -rf * in the /sdcard directory?
For instance, I just odin-ed (with repartition checked) and I still have external_sd showing (a leftover from Obsidian 4.2). I also see busybox, TitaniumBackup and several other folders. I'd like it all to be gone so I can be sure of my re-installation process.
Don't format the SD card, format the phone storage.
Yeah, you formatted the wrong one. Were you on Axura 2.0.5? I had that issue also for some reason... might have something to do with BlackFroyo on top of it?
Just went to Axura Final and am not noticing it...
If you want to wipe the whole phone including the internal memory card. Go to the market and download SGStools. Once installed go to secret codes and find Hard Reset. Just make sure to a make back up of both internal and external cards, cuz one never knows.
@s15274n, no I was not using Axura.
I did see that I formatted the wrong one the first time. Np, I had backed everything up to my computer. Anyway, I formatted both internal and external storage, re-Odin-ed, and then flashed Obsidian 4.2. I have already seen when I miss a call, my phone display does not go back to sleep, even with the new ROM. I guess I will Odin again and this time just stay on stock, or maybe just stick with the Bionix ROMs. If my phone can't play nicely with these new ROMs when flashing on top of a fresh Odin JFD, then I guess it just wasn't meant to be.
I not sure if this is the right area, if not, i apologize, feel free to move and/or flame. lol
Anyway, I'm running fr008 liberated froyo and all of a sudden my apps stopped showing up in the app drawer. the ones i had an icon for on the home screen would show up, but be the default little gear icon thing, on click, nothing would happen (market also because that icon and wouldnt work). I tried wiping dalvik cache, cache, and finally ended up just trying to restore nandroid. Wellll.... Now the market is gone totally, but the strange thing, is that the apps show up under settings->applications, but not in the drawer at all.
I searched on this site, but honestly...I'm not even sure what words to use, everytnhing just wasnt relevant to my search. I'll be happy to continue searching (and i'm still browsing through pages), but maybe someone has had this issue and can either help me out, or point me in the right direction. Thanks.
Try a different home app. LauncherPro is the best so far in my opinion.
Well, Ideally I would like to keep sense. that's why i had chosen the rom that i did instead of CM. I just don't understand why they were there working just fine, then all of a sudden they werent. Worse comes to worse I just flash cm7 and start over, i'm just giving it a couple days before i do that.
Astro also didn't show up, and i tried doing the .zip update method through clockwork, but i move the files over, then reset the phone, and they don't show up on the sdcard...So i reboot and check for the gapp.zip on the sdcard, and its no longer there. Wtf is going on?
**edit: for some reason the phone reset and the market showed up again. Obviously my apps are in my market account, but they still show up under settings->application. I still don't know *WHY* this happened, and i dont want to reload everything on it and lose the info i had, especially if its going to be a recurring thing.
Psionfenix said:
Well, Ideally I would like to keep sense. that's why i had chosen the rom that i did instead of CM. I just don't understand why they were there working just fine, then all of a sudden they werent. Worse comes to worse I just flash cm7 and start over, i'm just giving it a couple days before i do that.
Astro also didn't show up, and i tried doing the .zip update method through clockwork, but i move the files over, then reset the phone, and they don't show up on the sdcard...So i reboot and check for the gapp.zip on the sdcard, and its no longer there. Wtf is going on?
**edit: for some reason the phone reset and the market showed up again. Obviously my apps are in my market account, but they still show up under settings->application. I still don't know *WHY* this happened, and i dont want to reload everything on it and lose the info i had, especially if its going to be a recurring thing.
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This is a total WTF! Since you are running FR008, are you using DT A2Sd to store your apps on the SD card? If not, you may want to look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790786
Once you enable A2SD by creating a EXT partition on your SD card, you can use A2SD to check the apps that are installed.
Yeah, my sd card has the ext partition from when i had the stock rom (trying to use dt's a2sd with that, got fed up and flashed fr008, haha).
But I only had a couple apps on the SD card, and strangely enough, those were the only ones showing in my app drawer. (now they aren't...)
But I'll check that link and see whats going on with it, i'm just lost. haha.
Psionfenix said:
Yeah, my sd card has the ext partition from when i had the stock rom (trying to use dt's a2sd with that, got fed up and flashed fr008, haha).
But I only had a couple apps on the SD card, and strangely enough, those were the only ones showing in my app drawer. (now they aren't...)
But I'll check that link and see whats going on with it, i'm just lost. haha.
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If you had an EXT partition on the SD card when you flashed FR008 (which has DT A2SD built-in) will use it. Sounds like you may want to run the "a2sd check" command in the terminal emulator to see what's going on?
Hmm. I ran a2sd check:
it says "ext partition found, but not mounted, your rom may not be steup to run apps2sd. xxxxx
your partition may be ext4 but rom may not support ext4"
also, my apps are no longer showing up in market...i'm cursed. lol
a little update.
It seems my sd card was screwy. I swapped it for another one temporarily (copy/pasted the contents though, that didnt work, so i formatted it). The phone seems to work fine, but for some reason, my apps still show up in settings > applications. But no where else. I can't use astro to back them up, and I'm not sure what else i can possibly try (aside from wiping everything and installing a new rom, any suggestions on what rom, i'm thinking cm7, but i want sense ui still).
I'm just worried that its something *I* did and i dont want to do it again.
I had a similar issue before...and what I would do is:
1. Factory Wipe, Wipe Caches and Format both system and SDCard with an ext partition
2. Flash the ROM of your choice, then GAPPS
3. Start the process of setting everything up again.
It's the nature of the beast when using DT A2SD...when the card goes, so does everything on it, including your apps. It would be a great idea to back up everything on your phone (nandroid) then copy the nandroid backup (in the Clockworks folder on your SDCard) to a safe place (not on the SDCard) so that when this happens again you have a backup of your phone that doesn't die with the card. Don't worry this doesn't happen often, but a you see, it can happen.
Yeah, i sort of guessed it had to do with the sd card (had a small glitch about 3 days prior to this, with a program that was on the sd card). I just don't know why the apps that werent on the sd card went with the sd card, but showed up in settings -> applications still (though i could do nothing with them, and if i tried to "clear data" on them, it would fail). I flashed CM7 last night and started setting everything up again. I'm going to do the whole nandroid backup, and manual backup where i can pull the apks out of the backup, so i can have a script to reinstall everything quickly when I inevitably change roms again. lol (as you can see, i've been a member for some years now, started back with the titan/ppc6800)
anyway, if you didnt read all that above, i'll summarize:
THANKS.
i had the a similar problem my apps werent showing in my drawer and my widgets on my home screens kept saying problem loading widget so i wiped everything reinstalled my rom switched to adw ex and everything has been fine since
Well this is an odd one..... I used gingerbrake and it duely wiped the internal memory, fine I was warned and had backed up, then every 2nd or 3rd time I reboot the phone the Internal Memory has again been wiped.
So I installed the OTA update (pre GB I assume) and internal memory was all still there after it's reboot, I DID NOT then re-do gingerbrake and restart the phone a couple of times as it got stuck picking a cell tower to hang on to (odd radio area). After the 3rd or 4th restart the internal memory had been wiped again....WFT?!
Has anyone any idea what is going on and how to stop it from happening, become a pain in the ass to have 10gb of internal memory which is basically not useable on the grounds it may, at random, wipe it self on restarting the phone.
deech said:
Well this is an odd one..... I used gingerbrake and it duely wiped the internal memory, fine I was warned and had backed up, then every 2nd or 3rd time I reboot the phone the Internal Memory has again been wiped.
So I installed the OTA update (pre GB I assume) and internal memory was all still there after it's reboot, I DID NOT then re-do gingerbrake and restart the phone a couple of times as it got stuck picking a cell tower to hang on to (odd radio area). After the 3rd or 4th restart the internal memory had been wiped again....WFT?!
Has anyone any idea what is going on and how to stop it from happening, become a pain in the ass to have 10gb of internal memory which is basically not useable on the grounds it may, at random, wipe it self on restarting the phone.
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i have no idea, this problem is gone after unlocking the bootloader
Hi,
Had the same problem with gingerbreak before learning to unmount the memory before using it. Best to format it from windows, both internal and sdcard. That should do the trick.
If you don't have a pc, try busybox mkdosfs on the phone.
Cheers!
The thing is I havent used gingerbreak since I ran the OTA upgrade (think it's the pre Gingerbread thingy) but after running the OTA upgrade I have lost root. It still wipes the memory at random on reboot.....a bit anoying to put it mildly, will remove gingerbrake from teh phone and format the internal memory and see if I can sort it, and leave it rooted just for now.
Hi,
If you've used gingerbreak without unmounting first then until you format using a pc it will be unstable, flashing a sbf will not fix this.
Cheers!
Ah right I get you, sorry if I came across a bit thick
So instal gingerbrake app, then EITHER:
A) run it let it wipe the internal memory THEN format the internal memory using a PC
B) unmount the internal memory run gingerbrake remount internal memory
Either one of these methods should prevent this instability (with luck)
Cheer aye!