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I'm totally lost on what is going on here...
I have 2 mt4g, I got mine about 3 weeks before my wife got hers. I was able to permaroot my device with no problems using visionary+.
Hers, permaroot won't stick. I can temproot just fine, but on reboot its lost.
I ran thru the instructions for turning s=off, however this returns an error when performing the insmod function.
* error is normal it appears. However hboot still shows s=on
Both phones are running 2.2.1. Unless there was a 2nd ota that blocked permaroot that i don't know of, i don't get where I'm going wrong... Halp!
Explain all steps to your procedure.
Some of these devices have a delay built into the cache driver. Run through the rooting steps and then wait to reboot for about 30 min to an hour. Then it should show s off.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
@grankin01, i'll give it a go and report back.
Fastboot=off
usb debugging=on
Steps Taken:
1) Download root.rar from link in s=off thread.
2) extract to sdcard
3) install visionary+ (r14)
4) Install a terminal emulator
5) Temp root (set /system r/w is checked)
a) Perm root using r14 on other device was successful first go without root.rar package
b) perm root fails on more recently updated device.
6) Temp root again after seeing visionary+ not rooting it
7) go to terminal emulator
8) su
9) cd /sdcard/root
10) sh root.sh
11) wait about 30 seconds
a) tried software reboot
b) ran process again, tried pulling battery
Result: s=on
nicholasb said:
@grankin01, i'll give it a go and report back.
Fastboot=off
usb debugging=on
Steps Taken:
1) Download root.rar from link in s=off thread.
2) extract to sdcard
3) install visionary+ (r14)
4) Install a terminal emulator
5) Temp root (set /system r/w is checked)
a) Perm root using r14 on other device was successful first go without root.rar package
b) perm root fails on more recently updated device.
6) Temp root again after seeing visionary+ not rooting it
7) go to terminal emulator
8) su
9) cd /sdcard/root
10) sh root.sh
11) wait about 30 seconds
a) tried software reboot
b) ran process again, tried pulling battery
Result: s=on
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Try doing a temp root FIRST, then go thru the terminal emulator process with the commands. Then try seeing if s-off. Off it iz off. Reboot then do a perm root with visionary
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I meant to say "if it iz off"
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hawaiian.monzta said:
Try doing a temp root FIRST, then go thru the terminal emulator process with the commands. Then try seeing if s-off. Off it iz off. Reboot then do a perm root with visionary
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I believe I have attempted exactly as you describe.
The difference being:
1) temp root
2) process shell script
When i boot, s=on.
grankin01 said:
Some of these devices have a delay built into the cache driver. Run through the rooting steps and then wait to reboot for about 30 min to an hour. Then it should show s off.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
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I waiting 1 hour after performing the temproot and shell commands.
Result: s=on
i used r11 for rooting not r14..it seems to work better for me
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what do i install from android sdk to pc? i click on the guide to setup adb on pc but it bring me to ota thread. someone please help me at this part!
download all the gfree root stuff the temp root and full root you must extract everything in both gfree's and put it in android/tools/ the just go ahead and run adb just like the wiki says i went through the cyanogen wiki
cudahy_boy said:
download all the gfree root stuff the temp root and full root you must extract everything in both gfree's and put it in android/tools/ the just go ahead and run adb just like the wiki says i went through the cyanogen wiki
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Thanks alot! cyanogen wiki was alot clearer! Wish me luck will be my first time rooting my g2!
kool let me no what happens i was scared also but it went fine just remember temp root first then perma root i didnt do the eng bootloader part
There's a comprehensive guide called "adb for noobs" in the dev forum.
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SO i rooted my mytouch 4g today. I was trying to install Cyogen mod7.
But i have a problem. I am Already rooted ( i know for sure) but when i go into termal emulator and type "Su" it keeps giving me permission denied. Now my question is can i continue to go into rom manager--> And flash CM7 from zip?
Will it work and would eerything work once om on Cm7?
Are you compleatly sure? Go to hboot and check that you have s=off just in-case. Sorry if im not much of a help, im not exactly a pro.
TallestSpoon said:
SO i rooted my mytouch 4g today. I was trying to install Cyogen mod7.
But i have a problem. I am Already rooted ( i know for sure) but when i go into termal emulator and type "Su" it keeps giving me permission denied. Now my question is can i continue to go into rom manager--> And flash CM7 from zip?
Will it work and would eerything work once om on Cm7?
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If terminal gives you that message then you are not fully rooted.
darksulfur5 said:
Are you compleatly sure? Go to recovery and check that you have s=off just in-case. Sorry if im not much of a help, im not exactly a pro.
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The recovery will not tell you if s= off. The engineering scree will however.
Tallestspoon how do you "know" you are rooted.
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neidlinger said:
The recovery will not tell you if s= off. The engineering scree will however.
Tallestspoon how do you "know" you are rooted.
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Sorry, I meant h boot. Edited and corrected.
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Look up MT4GROOT, and download it, it's the easiest way to root the MT4G
This is what I used and it was my first time ever doing anything on a smart phone. Plus it unlocks everything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
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Just getting s=off is not enough. S=off will allow you to full root by allowing non official recovery versions to be flashed. Basically s=off means you have disabled the security system that checks the software you are installing is official versions. It does not mean the ROM itself has root. There are specific files and functionality that must be installed to have root access. The SU app can be installed but not functional without these essential files and functions.
Basically there are two kinds of root. Root on a stock device, which inserts the SU functionality into the existing software, the other is root with custom software. The second option requires s=off. (or at least an exploit that gets around it) Temp root is a process in which the system files are copied into a temp location and the software is tricked into using the copied files instead of the real files. That means that rebooting erases the temp files and the software uses the originals again. This is useful in that with these files copied and root enabled through them, they can be used to trick the software to allow the real files to be altered.
After you do get s=off, you must run visionary to temp root again, and before you do, check the box to ensure that system is R/W after temp root completes. This is where you trick the software to allow you to change the real system files.
Remember, if you reboot at any time before perm root is achieved, you will loose root and SU functions.
After temp root you should run visionary again to perm root. I had issues with the app not wanting to start the process for perm root. I just ran the temp root with R/W enabled, downloaded ROM manager from the market, then used ROM manager to flash clockwork recovery. Then I put a ROM zip on my SD and rebooted into recovery and flashed the zip and BAM running on a rooted custom ROM.
Make sure you pick a clockwork version that will work for your intended ROM. You must pick the "all clockwork recoveries" option to select the correct version, as the default version installed is 3.0.0.5
If you want CM7 use 3.0.0.5 if you want any froyo based ROM get the one ending in .12 (as the version .14 never flashes properly, for me at least and that is on 3 different MT4G I have rooted) Now that you have a custom recovery, you can install any ROM you want. (keeping in mind the froyo/gingerbread recovery compatibility)
Remember that just installing a custom recovery is not root either, you must install a new ROM or use visionary to gain perm root.
I am rooted, and s-off. I actually have some restores/ and backups that will take my phone back to unrooted through ROM manager. I can always go back to another backup though, and I am rooted again. Strange but it works somehow. I am using Royal Ginger and love it now, but I could still go back to s-off, unrooted through Clockwork, so I don't understand that.
Please help, I'm trying to root so I can run netflix on mt4g, almost there (i think)
Tysvm2: the folks that wrote: the true root article @
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I am trying to flash a custom recovery and rom (hoping to do: panache or CM7 and twrp recovery
(PG86IMG.zip) My end goal is to run netflix app on htc glacier)
I have succeeded in setting up ADB/SDK drivers, etc.
On hboot i see: S=off
I am having a PROBLEM with TRUE ROOT gfree method
At step 12. It says:
"If this is the first time you have rooted your device you will need to run visionary again (temproot w/set system r/w after root checked and then attempt permroot) to make root privileges permanent and then reboot again. Now "su" should work properly for you."
I've run into a problem :
I restarted in hboot and I see s=off but when I try to open terminal:
It reads:
$ export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$su
PERMISSION DENIED
I tried to run temproot and permroot on visionary + R14 to "seal the deal" & move onto install of the engineering bootloader
It appears I am stuck in between temproot and perm root won't stick for some reason ...
FYI: all sorts of apps force closed immediately after reboot after I ran the reboot it says s=off and has bootloader version 0.86.0000
I just did:
1. a factory reset from hboot
2. Reinstalled visionary + R14
3. And ... astro file manager, terminal emulator app and easy installer, etc
4. i have all the files that the TRUE ROOT thread reccomended but terminal emulator says permission denied when I type: su
PERMISSION DENIED
It looks to me like visionary Is not properly establishing temp root or perm root after s=off.
Suggestions please.
thank you,
CP
HTC GLACIER
s=off
bootloader version 0.86.0000
also: HTC DREAM aka Tmobile g1 rooted with cyanogen old school
Ps: I'm new to the forum culture and I want to be sure to be respectful and post properly; if this is not a proper place for this kind of question please redirect me patiently
Try the older verson of Visionary. R11 I believe. This has come up before and it has worked for other people.
If you have already received the OTA, use Gingerbreak or fre3vo method for temp root instead of Visionary.
I suggest to flash engineering bootloader ASAP, it'll save you the question next time, by allowing to flash custom recovery (thus enabling root by flashing any su.zip package) at any time, independent of the ROM.
I got a replacement phone, and this is what I had to do...
1. Install Visionary r14 and Terminal Emulator
2. Download gfree file and move to phone
3. Temproot (with r/w switched on), then su on TE, then run gfree*
4. Reboot and validate S=OFF
5. Temproot again (with r/w switched on), then click on Permroot
Hi Thank you for your reply, I tried visionary r11 but when I installed it would not run (perhaps i installed the wrong one) my easy install app read it as visionary 1.0 is that the same as R11?
Thank you for your reply but i tried this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030119
from Shaddy-Z.(10th April 2011, 01:35 PM) <- thank you Shaddy
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=899
It's the last download link."
But my easy install app calls it visionary 1.0 (is that the same as R11?) And it did not work ... it won't even open up, can you tell me do you have any experience with:
Jack R_1's suggestion: "If you have already received the OTA, use Gingerbreak or fre3vo method for temp root instead of Visionary."
What are benefits of gingerbreak vs. fre3vo? I just want to be sure to be careful so as to not brick my baby.
If you already have Radio S-OFF, have you tried flashing custom recovery via fastboot flash recovery? Or does your bootloader version not allow that?
Also try this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15943010&postcount=6
I only know about gingerbreak not the other one, it will use a new exploit to gain perm root under gingerbread. But if you have the new OTA that's gingerbread 2.3.4 I think it won't work. Others have upgraded to the new OTA and can't root again, why? Since a new Radio and I think SPL are in this new OTA. And HTC has used a new security method to prevent such things as rooting.
Check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174344
Flash the .85 engineering bootloader with adb and then clockworkmod from fastboot. You then can use the rooted nandroid backup in rom Bible (if you want to stay stock). Once you do that happy flashing. If you need any help pm me
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mark manning said:
Flash the .85 engineering bootloader with adb and then clockworkmod from fastboot. You then can use the rooted nandroid backup in rom Bible (if you want to stay stock). Once you do that happy flashing. If you need any help pm me
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Are you sure this holds true for users with newest OTA?
Ace42 said:
Are you sure this holds true for users with newest OTA?
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As long as he has s-off it will.
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Ace42 said:
Are you sure this holds true for users with newest OTA?
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Wait, he can't gain even temp root huh. NM your sol until a dev figures out how to root the gingerbread rom.
Its kind of a long shot. Since you have s-off you can try using the PD15IMG.ZIP from hboot and root the froyo rom. Not sure if that will work or not
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mark manning said:
Wait, he can't gain even temp root huh. NM your sol until a dev figures out how to root the gingerbread rom.
Its kind of a long shot. Since you have s-off you can try using the PD15IMG.ZIP from hboot and root the froyo rom. Not sure if that will work or not
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I'm using MIUI, I was asking cause I have a friend who's stuck on the new OTA since they accidentally flashed the non-rooted version of the OTA, probably since all of them had the same title and he didn't read...
Okay let me ask this: What about packing an unsigned PD15IMG.zip with ENG HBOOT and/or ClockworkMod Recovery and nothing else inside it? If you have Radio S-OFF, this image should be accepted by the bootloader and give you a route back to root.
I don't know if such a .zip has been made yet for the MT4G but it's not impossible. It's been done for the S-OFF Sensation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
See "ENG Hboot" - there is a PG58IMG.zip file there, and there is another under "Here is the download link to recovery".
Again this thread has nothing to do with the MT4G but it's the same principle.
So... if there is anyone out there who knows how to pack a PD15IMG.zip for a Radio S-OFF device, please speak up and help out the OP!
Interesting, I think all you need to do is replace the file inside of zip but not totally sure.
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What I don't know is if the zip has to be constructed in some particular way to be accepted as valid, even with S-OFF. But yeah, there should be a way to flash CWM to the S-OFF bootloader.
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Thank you but I don't know what that is exactly.
Ru suggesting I restart holding down on volume and select recovery from hboot?
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crouchingpossum said:
Thank you but I don't know what that is exactly.
Ru suggesting I restart holding down on volume and select recovery from hboot?
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No not yet, gonna try to figure something out for you tomorrow. Be patient please
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Are you on 2.2.1 or are you on 2.3.?
Okay I'm just poking around blindly in the dark here... I'm not a developer, just a script tinkerer... but if you're brave enough...
I grabbed one of the PD15IMG.zip radio files from the Dev section just to obtain the proper android-info.txt file. Then I created a new zip containing only:
- android-info.txt
- CWM version 3.0.2.4 for Glacier, in .img format, renamed to recovery.img
I've attached it here. Rename it to PD15IMG.zip, put it on the root of your SD, and try booting into HBOOT and see if it prompts you to install the zip. If so, does it succeed?
If yes, then try booting into recovery. Do you get Clockwork?
If it does not succeed, please report any error messages.
I highly doubt this can damage your phone because your ROM is still bootable and your bootloader still works, so the worst you could get is a bad recovery that you have to fix up. But I hold no liability for anything that gets borked
I was on Unrooted Gingerbread & successfully downgrade to Froyo.After that I installed visionary14 & moved "root"folder to the correct path.Then I temp rooted & did terminal emulator commands to get s-off.I saw permision denieded lines on TE.(I've attach the screen shot).As it say,i power off my phone & boot into bootloader.It still show S-ON!Then I exit bootloader & power on phone.Open visionary & temprooted again & click ATTEMPT ROOT.Then device rebooted.I have SU permission but still S-ON!Whats wrong?Please help!Even I installed viaionary ,reboot phone still have root access but NOT S-OFF!Help me to get s-off.
TIA!
Type "su" before entering those commands and you should be good.
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Nicgraner said:
Type "su" before entering those commands and you should be good.
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Thank you for helping me!I typed as you said,now I can see differnet lines (see attachment) ,but still S-On!What is now?It show "No such file or directory" to "wpx.ko",no.Is this the problem?I mean it doesnt take wpx file?But it is in the "root" folder!
hmm trying rooting using the gfree method...
saranhai said:
hmm trying rooting using the gfree method...
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Yahooooooo!It worked!Gfree worked!My Glacier has 0.86.0000 bootloader!Thanks man!By the way,i have just 2 more question .Im gonna install rooted version of official GB.So
1 How I do that?Can I install it like when I upgrade froyo to unrooted gb before?I mean put PD15IMG.zip in the root of sd card>boot to bootloader>update?Is that way?
2.Can I uninstall Visionary now?
Can I intall any custom theme on this s-off froyo?
Thanks
crazykas said:
Yahooooooo!It worked!Gfree worked!My Glacier has 0.86.0000 bootloader!Thanks man!By the way,i have just 2 more question .Im gonna install rooted version of official GB.So
1 How I do that?Can I install it like when I upgrade froyo to unrooted gb before?I mean put PD15IMG.zip in the root of sd card>boot to bootloader>update?Is that way?
2.Can I uninstall Visionary now?
Can I intall any custom theme on this s-off froyo?
Thanks
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1. download the ROM you're going to flash, place it in the ROOT of your SDcard, not in any folders, then download ROM Manager (from market), flash clockworkmod recovery, then reboot into recovery, DO A NANDROID BACKUP!!, wipe data, cache, dalvik (under advanced menu), flash your ROM.
2. yes
no, the only theme available is Androidian on the market for "custom theme"...
that's why i don't really like the stock ROM...
but you can try my StockMOD ROM here:
StockMOD ROM v1.4
it includes ADW Launcher (not in the latest, try v1), so theming is easy
hope this helps...
I think you should try this good luck. Bro http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9551846
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