Rooted Phone...but Superuser access is dennied - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

SO i rooted my mytouch 4g today. I was trying to install Cyogen mod7.
But i have a problem. I am Already rooted ( i know for sure) but when i go into termal emulator and type "Su" it keeps giving me permission denied. Now my question is can i continue to go into rom manager--> And flash CM7 from zip?
Will it work and would eerything work once om on Cm7?

Are you compleatly sure? Go to hboot and check that you have s=off just in-case. Sorry if im not much of a help, im not exactly a pro.

TallestSpoon said:
SO i rooted my mytouch 4g today. I was trying to install Cyogen mod7.
But i have a problem. I am Already rooted ( i know for sure) but when i go into termal emulator and type "Su" it keeps giving me permission denied. Now my question is can i continue to go into rom manager--> And flash CM7 from zip?
Will it work and would eerything work once om on Cm7?
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If terminal gives you that message then you are not fully rooted.

darksulfur5 said:
Are you compleatly sure? Go to recovery and check that you have s=off just in-case. Sorry if im not much of a help, im not exactly a pro.
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The recovery will not tell you if s= off. The engineering scree will however.
Tallestspoon how do you "know" you are rooted.
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neidlinger said:
The recovery will not tell you if s= off. The engineering scree will however.
Tallestspoon how do you "know" you are rooted.
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Sorry, I meant h boot. Edited and corrected.
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Look up MT4GROOT, and download it, it's the easiest way to root the MT4G

This is what I used and it was my first time ever doing anything on a smart phone. Plus it unlocks everything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
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Just getting s=off is not enough. S=off will allow you to full root by allowing non official recovery versions to be flashed. Basically s=off means you have disabled the security system that checks the software you are installing is official versions. It does not mean the ROM itself has root. There are specific files and functionality that must be installed to have root access. The SU app can be installed but not functional without these essential files and functions.
Basically there are two kinds of root. Root on a stock device, which inserts the SU functionality into the existing software, the other is root with custom software. The second option requires s=off. (or at least an exploit that gets around it) Temp root is a process in which the system files are copied into a temp location and the software is tricked into using the copied files instead of the real files. That means that rebooting erases the temp files and the software uses the originals again. This is useful in that with these files copied and root enabled through them, they can be used to trick the software to allow the real files to be altered.
After you do get s=off, you must run visionary to temp root again, and before you do, check the box to ensure that system is R/W after temp root completes. This is where you trick the software to allow you to change the real system files.
Remember, if you reboot at any time before perm root is achieved, you will loose root and SU functions.
After temp root you should run visionary again to perm root. I had issues with the app not wanting to start the process for perm root. I just ran the temp root with R/W enabled, downloaded ROM manager from the market, then used ROM manager to flash clockwork recovery. Then I put a ROM zip on my SD and rebooted into recovery and flashed the zip and BAM running on a rooted custom ROM.
Make sure you pick a clockwork version that will work for your intended ROM. You must pick the "all clockwork recoveries" option to select the correct version, as the default version installed is 3.0.0.5
If you want CM7 use 3.0.0.5 if you want any froyo based ROM get the one ending in .12 (as the version .14 never flashes properly, for me at least and that is on 3 different MT4G I have rooted) Now that you have a custom recovery, you can install any ROM you want. (keeping in mind the froyo/gingerbread recovery compatibility)
Remember that just installing a custom recovery is not root either, you must install a new ROM or use visionary to gain perm root.

I am rooted, and s-off. I actually have some restores/ and backups that will take my phone back to unrooted through ROM manager. I can always go back to another backup though, and I am rooted again. Strange but it works somehow. I am using Royal Ginger and love it now, but I could still go back to s-off, unrooted through Clockwork, so I don't understand that.

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[DISCUSSION] Visionary R14 "with r/w" is out

Paul released Visionary R14 "with r/w"
I used it on a fresh S-ON stock ROM and it roots OK, I tick "mount r/w" and seems OK
Then I boot to bootloader and I see "S-ON", BUT I CAN enter Clockwork and flash my nandroid back
Has somebody else tested it ??
With r/w achieved, seems S-OFF will not be necessary anymore ??
This will save many noobs from bricking their phones
OOpen for discussion
gtrab said:
Paul released Visionary R14 "with r/w"
I used it on a fresh S-ON stock ROM and it roots OK, I tick "mount r/w" and seems OK
Then I boot to bootloader and I see "S-ON", BUT I CAN enter Clockwork and flash my nandroid back
Has somebody else tested it ??
With r/w achieved, seems S-OFF will not be necessary anymore ??
This will save many noobs from bricking their phones
OOpen for discussion
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Weird.
I'd prefer S-OFF though. Dunno why, just an engineering hboot seems better to me. Like the splash screens. And stuff.
so I can use visionary now instead of S-OFF and install roms and all is that the case?
Problem is you need S-OFF to flash clockwork,
so as long as the ROM you flash doesn't contain a recovery...
That's why this thread is up for discussion, I'd like to hear comments and experiences.
I'd stick to S-OFF in the mean time.
gtrab said:
Problem is you need S-OFF to flash clockwork,
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...but when you first install the ENG HBOOT you flash it at this point (via dd) - so is the recovery partition not writable but the HBOOT is?
I just do not get the difference between temp root, and then enabling temproot on boot, and permanent root.
I mean if you temp root and then enable temproot on boot, the device will be root every time, so why should you perm root?
Can anyone answer me?
Thanks in advance
buzmay said:
I just do not get the difference between temp root, and then enabling temproot on boot, and permanent root.
I mean if you temp root and then enable temproot on boot, the device will be root every time, so why should you perm root?
Can anyone answer me?
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I'm sure someone else will have a better answer, but from my own point of view, with the temp root, you haven't properly rooted it really. The phone effectively hasn't been rooted, but you're rooting it specifically every time you boot up, because any writes to the system aren't being saved in permanent storage, only in cache memory (lost when shut down). What if something goes wrong with that process ?
Seems to me it's much better to have the rooting actually written to the phone's permanent storage (NAND).
steviewevie said:
I'm sure someone else will have a better answer, but from my own point of view, with the temp root, you haven't properly rooted it really. The phone effectively hasn't been rooted, but you're rooting it specifically every time you boot up, because any writes to the system aren't being saved in permanent storage, only in cache memory (lost when shut down). What if something goes wrong with that process ?
Seems to me it's much better to have the rooting actually written to the phone's permanent storage (NAND).
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Thanks for the answer, what if something goes wrong? isn't this method currently the safest?
I was just wonder, because I would like to root my desire z but seems to be quite unstable still with the methods availble, and until there is no ROM that supports A2SD then I do not see a reason for either perm root or S-Off.
So that is why I was wondering.
Gtrab, I've updated to version Visionary r14 and then enabled the new option for R/W, restarted and I still have S-OFF and the ClockWorkMod.
I use root explorer to make changes to the /system partition, it allows to mount it r/w so I think I'm going to disable this on boot option for security...
Have you flashed the stock hboot earlier or did some changes/testing prior the update of this program?
EDIT: here's the link of the Visionary app thread with the description, maybe it can answer some questions.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...m/322658/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
zuachs said:
Gtrab, I've updated to version Visionary r14 and then enabled the new option for R/W, restarted and I still have S-OFF and the ClockWorkMod.
I use root explorer to make changes to the /system partition, it allows to mount it r/w so I think I'm going to disable this on boot option for security...
Have you flashed the stock hboot earlier or did some changes/testing prior the update of this program?
EDIT: here's the link of the Visionary app thread with the description, maybe it can answer some questions.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...m/322658/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
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I've tested tons of combinations, but yes I did as you say:
Flahsed a fresh untouched ROM from my version's RUU, this turned S-ON and lost root.
Then used Visionary 14 to temp root-> perm root with r/w ticked.
After reboot, I had root and was able to mount r/w on demand, but was unable to install ClockworkMod (CWM) from the ROM Manager app because I was S-ON (obviously because visionary r14 doesn't have engineering hboot).
I think CWM is priceless, so I installed the eng hboot again to go S-OFF.
If you check koush's (ROM Manager) thread, he states CWM requires S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834731
gtrab said:
I've tested tons of combinations, but yes I did as you say:
Flahsed a fresh untouched ROM from my version's RUU, this turned S-ON and lost root.
Then used Visionary 14 to temp root-> perm root with r/w ticked.
After reboot, I had root and was able to mount r/w on demand, but was unable to install ClockworkMod (CWM) from the ROM Manager app because I was S-ON (obviously because visionary r14 doesn't have engineering hboot).
I think CWM is priceless, so I installed the eng hboot again to go S-OFF.
If you check koush's (ROM Manager) thread, he states CWM requires S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834731
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Yes it was the problem, I'm glad it's working for you! I agree with you regarding the CWM
gtrab said:
I've tested tons of combinations, but yes I did as you say:
Flahsed a fresh untouched ROM from my version's RUU, this turned S-ON and lost root.
Then used Visionary 14 to temp root-> perm root with r/w ticked.
After reboot, I had root and was able to mount r/w on demand, but was unable to install ClockworkMod (CWM) from the ROM Manager app because I was S-ON (obviously because visionary r14 doesn't have engineering hboot).
I think CWM is priceless, so I installed the eng hboot again to go S-OFF.
If you check koush's (ROM Manager) thread, he states CWM requires S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834731
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Since your guides are so amazing Do you think you can make a dummy one for how to loose root and S-Off, more specifically where to get the stock RUUs and how to flash them?
Do you get them from shipped-roms.com or where?
I just want to be sure in case of having to return back the device.
Thanks in advance
gtrab said:
If you check koush's (ROM Manager) thread, he states CWM requires S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834731
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I don't understand why though - if you can flash to the HBOOT partition why can't you flash to the recovery partition?
You can. You'd need to use the wpthis thing before using clockwork. Think I'd prefer S-OFF though.
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DanWilson said:
You can. You'd need to use the wpthis thing before using clockwork. Think I'd prefer S-OFF though.
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OK so Visionary will temproot and then insmod wpthis... So theoretically you could then (without rebooting) run Rom Manager and it could flash ClockworkRecovery, which itself has been modified to include wpthis so you wouldn't need to flash HBOOT?
I know some would prefer to have S-OFF in the HBOOT, but if you're not fussed or don't want to take the risk then the above could be an option... if my understanding's right!?
DanWilson said:
You can. You'd need to use the wpthis thing before using clockwork. Think I'd prefer S-OFF though.
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What is wpthis??
buzmay said:
What is wpthis??
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The module that turns off the write protection on the internal NAND storage. See the sticky threads on rooting for more details.
mamoulian666 said:
OK so Visionary will temproot and then insmod wpthis... So theoretically you could then (without rebooting) run Rom Manager and it could flash ClockworkRecovery, which itself has been modified to include wpthis so you wouldn't need to flash HBOOT?
I know some would prefer to have S-OFF in the HBOOT, but if you're not fussed or don't want to take the risk then the above could be an option... if my understanding's right!?
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the wpthis ("write protect this") effect is temporary since a reboot will delete it and restore stock values
theoretically speaking, you could insmod wpthis and then tell ROM Manager to install CWM
buzmay said:
Since your guides are so amazing Do you think you can make a dummy one for how to loose root and S-Off, more specifically where to get the stock RUUs and how to flash them?
Do you get them from shipped-roms.com or where?
I just want to be sure in case of having to return back the device.
Thanks in advance
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I've been updating the FAQs day after day,
I think all of your requirements are already there (flashing from RUU, getting the RUUs, how to go back from root and S-OFF, etc. It's all in the FAQ.
Where do I get 'em ?? The Desire Z Android Development forum has several RUUs listed, these are the only ones I am aware of.
A specific link to a specific RUU ?? Not a good idea:
I could link them on the tutorial, but newer ones will always pop up and links will get obsolete, people will get confused.
Thats why I btter state "check the forum for currnt / latest available RUUs".
gtrab said:
I've been updating the FAQs day after day,
I think all of your requirements are already there (flashing from RUU, getting the RUUs, how to go back from root and S-OFF, etc. It's all in the FAQ.
Where do I get 'em ?? The Desire Z Android Development forum has several RUUs listed, these are the only ones I am aware of.
A specific link to a specific RUU ?? Not a good idea:
I could link them on the tutorial, but newer ones will always pop up and links will get obsolete, people will get confused.
Thats why I btter state "check the forum for currnt / latest available RUUs".
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Could you having s-off and of course perm root, to come back to stock rom could you copy the PC10img to the root of the sdcard and enter into bootloader? will that work?
Thanks a lot in advance

[Q] S=off but can't root

Please help, I'm trying to root so I can run netflix on mt4g, almost there (i think)
Tysvm2: the folks that wrote: the true root article @
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I am trying to flash a custom recovery and rom (hoping to do: panache or CM7 and twrp recovery
(PG86IMG.zip) My end goal is to run netflix app on htc glacier)
I have succeeded in setting up ADB/SDK drivers, etc.
On hboot i see: S=off
I am having a PROBLEM with TRUE ROOT gfree method
At step 12. It says:
"If this is the first time you have rooted your device you will need to run visionary again (temproot w/set system r/w after root checked and then attempt permroot) to make root privileges permanent and then reboot again. Now "su" should work properly for you."
I've run into a problem :
I restarted in hboot and I see s=off but when I try to open terminal:
It reads:
$ export PATH=/data/local/bin:$PATH
$su
PERMISSION DENIED
I tried to run temproot and permroot on visionary + R14 to "seal the deal" & move onto install of the engineering bootloader
It appears I am stuck in between temproot and perm root won't stick for some reason ...
FYI: all sorts of apps force closed immediately after reboot after I ran the reboot it says s=off and has bootloader version 0.86.0000
I just did:
1. a factory reset from hboot
2. Reinstalled visionary + R14
3. And ... astro file manager, terminal emulator app and easy installer, etc
4. i have all the files that the TRUE ROOT thread reccomended but terminal emulator says permission denied when I type: su
PERMISSION DENIED
It looks to me like visionary Is not properly establishing temp root or perm root after s=off.
Suggestions please.
thank you,
CP
HTC GLACIER
s=off
bootloader version 0.86.0000
also: HTC DREAM aka Tmobile g1 rooted with cyanogen old school
Ps: I'm new to the forum culture and I want to be sure to be respectful and post properly; if this is not a proper place for this kind of question please redirect me patiently
Try the older verson of Visionary. R11 I believe. This has come up before and it has worked for other people.
If you have already received the OTA, use Gingerbreak or fre3vo method for temp root instead of Visionary.
I suggest to flash engineering bootloader ASAP, it'll save you the question next time, by allowing to flash custom recovery (thus enabling root by flashing any su.zip package) at any time, independent of the ROM.
I got a replacement phone, and this is what I had to do...
1. Install Visionary r14 and Terminal Emulator
2. Download gfree file and move to phone
3. Temproot (with r/w switched on), then su on TE, then run gfree*
4. Reboot and validate S=OFF
5. Temproot again (with r/w switched on), then click on Permroot
Hi Thank you for your reply, I tried visionary r11 but when I installed it would not run (perhaps i installed the wrong one) my easy install app read it as visionary 1.0 is that the same as R11?
Thank you for your reply but i tried this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030119
from Shaddy-Z.(10th April 2011, 01:35 PM) <- thank you Shaddy
"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=899
It's the last download link."
But my easy install app calls it visionary 1.0 (is that the same as R11?) And it did not work ... it won't even open up, can you tell me do you have any experience with:
Jack R_1's suggestion: "If you have already received the OTA, use Gingerbreak or fre3vo method for temp root instead of Visionary."
What are benefits of gingerbreak vs. fre3vo? I just want to be sure to be careful so as to not brick my baby.
If you already have Radio S-OFF, have you tried flashing custom recovery via fastboot flash recovery? Or does your bootloader version not allow that?
Also try this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15943010&postcount=6
I only know about gingerbreak not the other one, it will use a new exploit to gain perm root under gingerbread. But if you have the new OTA that's gingerbread 2.3.4 I think it won't work. Others have upgraded to the new OTA and can't root again, why? Since a new Radio and I think SPL are in this new OTA. And HTC has used a new security method to prevent such things as rooting.
Check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174344
Flash the .85 engineering bootloader with adb and then clockworkmod from fastboot. You then can use the rooted nandroid backup in rom Bible (if you want to stay stock). Once you do that happy flashing. If you need any help pm me
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mark manning said:
Flash the .85 engineering bootloader with adb and then clockworkmod from fastboot. You then can use the rooted nandroid backup in rom Bible (if you want to stay stock). Once you do that happy flashing. If you need any help pm me
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Are you sure this holds true for users with newest OTA?
Ace42 said:
Are you sure this holds true for users with newest OTA?
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As long as he has s-off it will.
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Ace42 said:
Are you sure this holds true for users with newest OTA?
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Wait, he can't gain even temp root huh. NM your sol until a dev figures out how to root the gingerbread rom.
Its kind of a long shot. Since you have s-off you can try using the PD15IMG.ZIP from hboot and root the froyo rom. Not sure if that will work or not
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mark manning said:
Wait, he can't gain even temp root huh. NM your sol until a dev figures out how to root the gingerbread rom.
Its kind of a long shot. Since you have s-off you can try using the PD15IMG.ZIP from hboot and root the froyo rom. Not sure if that will work or not
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I'm using MIUI, I was asking cause I have a friend who's stuck on the new OTA since they accidentally flashed the non-rooted version of the OTA, probably since all of them had the same title and he didn't read...
Okay let me ask this: What about packing an unsigned PD15IMG.zip with ENG HBOOT and/or ClockworkMod Recovery and nothing else inside it? If you have Radio S-OFF, this image should be accepted by the bootloader and give you a route back to root.
I don't know if such a .zip has been made yet for the MT4G but it's not impossible. It's been done for the S-OFF Sensation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
See "ENG Hboot" - there is a PG58IMG.zip file there, and there is another under "Here is the download link to recovery".
Again this thread has nothing to do with the MT4G but it's the same principle.
So... if there is anyone out there who knows how to pack a PD15IMG.zip for a Radio S-OFF device, please speak up and help out the OP!
Interesting, I think all you need to do is replace the file inside of zip but not totally sure.
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What I don't know is if the zip has to be constructed in some particular way to be accepted as valid, even with S-OFF. But yeah, there should be a way to flash CWM to the S-OFF bootloader.
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Thank you but I don't know what that is exactly.
Ru suggesting I restart holding down on volume and select recovery from hboot?
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crouchingpossum said:
Thank you but I don't know what that is exactly.
Ru suggesting I restart holding down on volume and select recovery from hboot?
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No not yet, gonna try to figure something out for you tomorrow. Be patient please
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Are you on 2.2.1 or are you on 2.3.?
Okay I'm just poking around blindly in the dark here... I'm not a developer, just a script tinkerer... but if you're brave enough...
I grabbed one of the PD15IMG.zip radio files from the Dev section just to obtain the proper android-info.txt file. Then I created a new zip containing only:
- android-info.txt
- CWM version 3.0.2.4 for Glacier, in .img format, renamed to recovery.img
I've attached it here. Rename it to PD15IMG.zip, put it on the root of your SD, and try booting into HBOOT and see if it prompts you to install the zip. If so, does it succeed?
If yes, then try booting into recovery. Do you get Clockwork?
If it does not succeed, please report any error messages.
I highly doubt this can damage your phone because your ROM is still bootable and your bootloader still works, so the worst you could get is a bad recovery that you have to fix up. But I hold no liability for anything that gets borked

Can I regain root access after using RUU

Hello all,
I just ran RUU 2.2 to my wildfire, and used some command prompt actions to flash a new 1.0.0001 hboot to regain S-on. (Used Instructions Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160251 )
Then I tried to run revolutianary tool to regain root access, but I only gain S-on and after the tool goes not responding (although i choose yes when it asks me to download clockwordrecovery and install it)..... tried to run unrevoked after that (since i goot s-off but no root) but no luck,it gives the too new firmware error..
So, since I couldn't root, I reused the command prompt to regain S-On... I did all that from the very beginning just to get root access but on stock froyo, coz I didn't like CM...
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There is a lot of confusion in your post.
Alyzembawy said:
Tried to run revolutianary tool to regain root access, but I only gain S-on
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Revolutionary doesnt give you S-ON. It gives S-OFF. It doesn't give you root access either. Superuser binary does, which has to be flashed after you get S-OFF and Clockworkmod
Alyzembawy said:
So, since I couldn't root, I reused the command prompt to regain S-On... I did all that from the very beginning just to get root access but on stock froyo, coz I didn't like CM...
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You never got S-OFF as per your post. How did you S-ON a S-ON phone?
Anyway, from what I get, you have Stock Froyo, and you have S-ON, and you simply want root access? In that case, there are 2 ways
1) Gain S-OFF again using Revolutionary . Then install Custom Recovery (Seperately, if Revolutionary is not working / giving you an error), and simply flash the Superuser Binary in Clockworkmod
Or
2) Gain S-OFF using Revolutionary, then gain S-ON again using the same command prompt tools. But, instead of flashing HBoot 1.01.0001, flash HBoot 0.80.x. This will allow you to root using Unrevoked, as was the case earlier
3xeno said:
There is a lot of confusion in your post.
Revolutionary doesnt give you S-ON. It gives S-OFF. It doesn't give you root access either. Superuser binary does, which has to be flashed after you get S-OFF and Clockworkmod
You never got S-OFF as per your post. How did you S-ON a S-ON phone?
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Yeah sorry i meant that i got s-off after running revolutionary tool
Alyzembawy said:
Yeah sorry i meant that i got s-off after running revolutionary tool
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I checked your Edited post. Well, just follow one of the 2 methods I listed below, either of them will work.
3xeno said:
Anyway, from what I get, you have Stock Froyo, and you have S-ON, and you simply want root access? In that case, there are 2 ways
1) Gain S-OFF again using Revolutionary . Then install Custom Recovery (Seperately, if Revolutionary is not working / giving you an error), and simply flash the Superuser Binary in Clockworkmod
Or
2) Gain S-OFF using Revolutionary, then gain S-ON again using the same command prompt tools. But, instead of flashing HBoot 1.01.0001, flash HBoot 0.80.x. This will allow you to root using Unrevoked, as was the case earlier
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Can you please link me instructions to do these two steps, and which do you think is safer and easier ?!
And thanks btw
Alyzembawy said:
Can you please link me instructions to do these two steps, and which do you think is safer and easier ?!
And thanks btw
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Depends, but the first should be easier, since you have already performed it yourself. The procedure remains exactly the same, just that you do not flash the CM7 ROM File, but simply flash the Superuser Binary file to gain root.
- Run Revolutionary
- Gain S-OFF
- When it asks to install a Custom Recovery, Select Y, and if it installs, well and good.
- If it doesn't, follow this guide to install Clockworkmod - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130044
- Once Clockworkmod is installed, download Superuser Binary here: http://bit.ly/su2361ef and place it on your SDCard
- Reboot into Clockworkmod Recovery and flash it. (Install Zip from SDCard > Select the zip file you just placed)
3xeno said:
Depends, but the first should be easier, since you have already performed it yourself. The procedure remains exactly the same, just that you do not flash the CM7 ROM File, but simply flash the Superuser Binary file to gain root.
- Run Revolutionary
- Gain S-OFF
- When it asks to install a Custom Recovery, Select Y, and if it installs, well and good.
- If it doesn't, follow this guide to install Clockworkmod - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130044
- Once Clockworkmod is installed, download Superuser Binary here: http://bit.ly/su2361ef and place it on your SDCard
- Reboot into Clockworkmod Recovery and flash it. (Install Zip from SDCard > Select the zip file you just placed)
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Well that's funny, this time revolutionary tool just worked, and it reported "SUCCESS" about flashing CWM... So now am I fully rooted, or I still have to flash the binary super user app ?!
Alyzembawy said:
Well that's funny, this time revolutionary tool just worked, and it reported "SUCCESS" about flashing CWM... So now am I fully rooted, or I still have to flash the binary super user app ?!
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You'll still have to flash Superuser to gain root access. The correct terminology is that it is a ROM which is rooted. A phone is never rooted.
Also, since you are keeping S-OFF, don't forget the Sense Fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156713
3xeno said:
You'll still have to flash Superuser to gain root access. The correct terminology is that it is a ROM which is rooted. A phone is never rooted.
Also, since you are keeping S-OFF, don't forget the Sense Fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156713
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Ok, so now I will flash superuser to gain root acces, then flash the Sense Fix... Do I have to hard reset after all this ?!
Alyzembawy said:
Ok, so now I will flash superuser to gain root acces, then flash the Sense Fix... Do I have to hard reset after all this ?!
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Not necessary, (Flashing both, Superuser and the sense fix doesn't touch your data) but, remember to take a Nandroid Backup though, in Clockworkmod, just in case.
3xeno said:
Not necessary, (Flashing both, Superuser and the sense fix doesn't touch your data) but, remember to take a Nandroid Backup though, in Clockworkmod, just in case.
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Uhm, When I go to CWM and select Installl ZIP from SD Card, it goes to a black screen with the logo "REVOLUTIONARY" on... and the nothing...
Edit. Ah sorry, I was using the power button to select
Nvm

Verified, ran August GB RUU and phone re-rooted

Okay I verified that if you have s-off you will be able to get root back on your phone if you run the RUU.
As expected the RUU did unroot my phone but it didn't touch s-off. So I downloaded CWM 3.0.0.8 from dougpiston.com and changed it to PB31IMG.zip (this has to be a flashable zip file to work) and it loaded from hboot no problem. I then downloaded the latest superuser app using ROM Manager, version 2.3.6.3 efgh, older versions will not work, and just flashed it through recovery. Superuser does not need to be renamed update.zip you can just leave the name as is and select let me choose zip from sdcard and it installs just fine.
Took a while for me to get superuser running again as I had an older version and I could only find the newest version in ROM Manager.
****YOU MUST HAVE S-OFF FOR THIS TO WORK*********************
kzoodroid said:
Okay I verified that if you have s-off you will be able to get root back on your phone if you run the RUU.
As expected the RUU did unroot my phone but it didn't touch s-off. So I downloaded CWM 3.0.0.8 from dougpiston.com and changed it to PB31IMG.zip (this has to be a flashable zip file to work) and it loaded from hboot no problem. I then downloaded the latest superuser app using ROM Manager, version 2.3.6.3 efgh, older versions will not work, and just flashed it through recovery. Superuser does not need to be renamed update.zip you can just leave the name as is and select let me choose zip from sdcard and it installs just fine.
Took a while for me to get superuser running again as I had an older version and I could only find the newest version in ROM Manager.
****YOU MUST HAVE S-OFF FOR THIS TO WORK*********************
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I can't seem to find a link to to superuser inside ROM Manager. Can you tell me where to locate it?
thanks,
John
under download rom > extras
kzoodroid said:
under download rom > extras
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You can also get it from here
Thanks to you both. I didn't even click on the Download ROM because it's premium and I'm still getting my feet wet with the whole root thing. I'm off to try the GB RUU w/radio and then re-root.
What if you have s-on?
You can only re-root if you have s-off. S-on blocks you from replacing the stock recovery with a custom recovery and blocks the installation of superuser into the system folder.
Eventually the Unrevoked team will come up with a new way to root phones but this most likely won't happen till the OTA actually starts to drop and people report how they lost root. And then who knows how long it will take them to do it. Could be a few days to a few months.
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You can only re-root if you have s-off. S-on blocks you from replacing the stock recovery with a custom recovery and blocks the installation of superuser into the system folder.
Eventually the Unrevoked team will come up with a new way to root phones but this most likely won't happen till the OTA actually starts to drop and people report how they lost root. And then who knows how long it will take them to do it. Could be a few days to a few months.
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Jeez, can't believe I screwed myself like that. I'm a regular root/flasher, and no idea how to get my fix now..
deadsoulboy said:
Jeez, can't believe I screwed myself like that. I'm a regular root/flasher, and no idea how to get my fix now..
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I ran the RUU with all expectations of not being able to re-root my phone just so I could test if the OTA would change the security settings on my phone. I also still wasn't sure if I could even get root back if it was still s-off so I was willing to experiment with knowing full well what could happen. From past experience with the Eris and losing root for about 3 months you have to flash these leaks with all expectations that it will break your phone and not sweat it too much if it does as eventually someone will find a fix.
kzoodroid said:
I ran the RUU with all expectations of not being able to re-root my phone just so I could test if the OTA would change the security settings on my phone. I also still wasn't sure if I could even get root back if it was still s-off so I was willing to experiment with knowing full well what could happen. From past experience with the Eris and losing root for about 3 months you have to flash these leaks with all expectations that it will break your phone and not sweat it too much if it does as eventually someone will find a fix.
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You're absolutely right. I have no doubt in my mind someone will come up with a way to root 2.3 on the INC
Alright, I've got s-off, downloaded the superuser 2.3.6.3 efgh app from the ROM manager butttt... now what? I've tried to boot into recovery but I just get an icon of a phone with an exclamation mark inside of a triangle, which I'm assuming isn't good.
Flash clockworkmod recovery first, then the superuser zip.
I tried that but it gives me an error saying: "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!".
If you flashed the GB RUU and lost root and/or s-off.
Someone correct me please if I'm wrong but couldn't you download the froyo RUU and load it then root and s-off?
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How are you trying to flash it? I'd recommend getting the 3.0.0.7 (AMOLED) or 3.0.0.8 (SLCD) recovery from www.dougpiston.com. Flash in hboot. Or is that how you're doing it?
deadsoulboy said:
You're absolutely right. I have no doubt in my mind someone will come up with a way to root 2.3 on the INC
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The Eris had a manual method (race method) for rooting the phone but I could never find one posted for the Inc. It involved having the phone connected to a pc with adb running and then taking out the sdcard and rebooting, at a certain point of the boot process you counted to 4 and then pushed the sdcard back in. If you did it correctly adb was able to connect to the phone and you could slip a custom recovery and su in. It was rather complicated and only a handful of people ever did it correctly myself included and it was eventually replaced by a one-click method. The one-click method still pretty much does the same thing you just don't have to manually remove the sdcard or have the phone connected to a pc. In some ways the Eris has a lot more support from its community than the Inc does probably because it was Verizons first android phone.
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How are you trying to flash it? I'd recommend getting the 3.0.0.7 (AMOLED) or 3.0.0.8 (SLCD) recovery from www.dougpiston.com. Flash in hboot. Or is that how you're doing it?
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I second this it has to be a flashable version (contains android-info text file + the recovery image) to work. I used the 3.0.0.8 file from doug pistons website which is already to go just needs to be renamed PB31IMG.zip and make sure it isn't being named PB31IMG.zip.zip as file extensions can be hidden especially if you are renaming it on a pc. I downloaded it directly to my phone and renamed it there so the extension wasn't hidden.
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Alright, I've got s-off, downloaded the superuser 2.3.6.3 efgh app from the ROM manager butttt... now what? I've tried to boot into recovery but I just get an icon of a phone with an exclamation mark inside of a triangle, which I'm assuming isn't good.
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I beleive that is becasue you stil have the stock recovery? Did you flash the clockwork recovery from dougpiston.com?
I flashed the clockwork mod recovery 3.0.0.7 from dougpiston via hboot.
I tried several different ways to boot into recovery to flash the superuser app but it isn't working. When I try to do it from the clockword mod app it says the same error: "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!".
I tried to manually download the superuser .zip and boot into recovery from the hboot menu, but it still gave me that same phone icon with the exclamation mark and triangle and then nothing.
swskeptic said:
I flashed the clockwork mod recovery 3.0.0.7 from dougpiston via hboot.
I tried several different ways to boot into recovery to flash the superuser app but it isn't working. When I try to do it from the clockword mod app it says the same error: "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!".
I tried to manually download the superuser .zip and boot into recovery from the hboot menu, but it still gave me that same phone icon with the exclamation mark and triangle and then nothing.
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First thing are you getting into recovery from the hboot menu? And you can't get into recovery from ROM Manager because you need superuser installed to do it that way. It still sounds to me like you don't have ClockworkMod Recovery installed. Maybe only version 3.0.0.8 works I'm not sure but that version is for both amoled and SLCD screens. So either try reflashing your copy of 3.0.0.7 or try flashing 3.0.0.8. I do think I had to flash the recovery a couple times to get it to stick.

[Q] Have root access but still S-ON !

I was on Unrooted Gingerbread & successfully downgrade to Froyo.After that I installed visionary14 & moved "root"folder to the correct path.Then I temp rooted & did terminal emulator commands to get s-off.I saw permision denieded lines on TE.(I've attach the screen shot).As it say,i power off my phone & boot into bootloader.It still show S-ON!Then I exit bootloader & power on phone.Open visionary & temprooted again & click ATTEMPT ROOT.Then device rebooted.I have SU permission but still S-ON!Whats wrong?Please help!Even I installed viaionary ,reboot phone still have root access but NOT S-OFF!Help me to get s-off.
TIA!
Type "su" before entering those commands and you should be good.
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Nicgraner said:
Type "su" before entering those commands and you should be good.
Sent from my Htcclay's SuperCM7 mt4g using xda premium
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Thank you for helping me!I typed as you said,now I can see differnet lines (see attachment) ,but still S-On!What is now?It show "No such file or directory" to "wpx.ko",no.Is this the problem?I mean it doesnt take wpx file?But it is in the "root" folder!
hmm trying rooting using the gfree method...
saranhai said:
hmm trying rooting using the gfree method...
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Yahooooooo!It worked!Gfree worked!My Glacier has 0.86.0000 bootloader!Thanks man!By the way,i have just 2 more question .Im gonna install rooted version of official GB.So
1 How I do that?Can I install it like when I upgrade froyo to unrooted gb before?I mean put PD15IMG.zip in the root of sd card>boot to bootloader>update?Is that way?
2.Can I uninstall Visionary now?
Can I intall any custom theme on this s-off froyo?
Thanks
crazykas said:
Yahooooooo!It worked!Gfree worked!My Glacier has 0.86.0000 bootloader!Thanks man!By the way,i have just 2 more question .Im gonna install rooted version of official GB.So
1 How I do that?Can I install it like when I upgrade froyo to unrooted gb before?I mean put PD15IMG.zip in the root of sd card>boot to bootloader>update?Is that way?
2.Can I uninstall Visionary now?
Can I intall any custom theme on this s-off froyo?
Thanks
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1. download the ROM you're going to flash, place it in the ROOT of your SDcard, not in any folders, then download ROM Manager (from market), flash clockworkmod recovery, then reboot into recovery, DO A NANDROID BACKUP!!, wipe data, cache, dalvik (under advanced menu), flash your ROM.
2. yes
no, the only theme available is Androidian on the market for "custom theme"...
that's why i don't really like the stock ROM...
but you can try my StockMOD ROM here:
StockMOD ROM v1.4
it includes ADW Launcher (not in the latest, try v1), so theming is easy
hope this helps...
I think you should try this good luck. Bro http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9551846
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