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Just picked up a Snap. (Euro model)
The top row keys (menu keys, home, back, etc..) make a funny sound when I click them. They feel very "wrong". It sounds like it makes a click before I actually push it all the way in. So there is a sorta plastic-y double-click sound.
I rushed back to the store and the guy opened another box to compare and that was making the same noise too. He suggested it's new and will break in with time. (The display model was good but it has been "broken in" by a lot of customers.)
(QWERTY part of keyboard is fine.)
I'm inclined to think BOTH phones had a problem and it makes me feel uncomfortable.
I had a similar experience with a laptop's touchpad button once and it got worse over time. So this is why I'm pessimistic.
Has anyone else had this problem/issue?
here i'm. same problem on my italian htc snap.
is there something that can we do to fix this problem?
Well it's good to know.... but also sad news because apparently HTC screwed up something.
After using mine for 24 hours the problem was worsening so I just returned it to the store.
I don't know how old is yours (and if it's getting better or worse), maybe you can also return it?
I didn't get another one because frankly I was not awed by the Snap.
Coming from an Excalibur (S620) and based on specs I was expecting to be blown away by the performance of Snap.
But with 3VOLUTION's latest 6.5 ROM on my trusty (and beaten) Excalibur I could not see any improvement. (minus, of course, 3G and GPS)
Maybe I will buy another Snap in the future but going to wait until this hardware issue gets acknowledged/fixed.
PS. It is important to point out, the phone they had on display -abused by a lot of people- was PERFECT. Strange.
@an.ghezzi - please let me know the age of your phone and how this issue develops over time.
i've bought the snap just a week ago and the problem is always here.
not worse, not better. let's wait, maybe someone can tell us what's wrong.
: )
PS. the "funny sound" came only from the "call" and "home" buttons. the others sounds ok...
Just an update.
I picked up a second Snap a couple of weeks ago. Tried the keys in the store and they were not perfect but almost.
Lately I'm getting pissed off with them again. They are just as bad as the first one was. And I know this is a minor problem - probably not even a problem for most people - but I get so frustrated by it. This damn thing feels so cheap. Cheap crap plastic. My Excalibur is 3 years old but still rocking stronger.
I'm not happy.
Same with me. I have a T-Mobile Dash 3G and was wondering why this was happening. It's happening on my left softkey button and home button. I'm gonna take it back to T-Mobile on Tuesday.
Yeah I'm very pissed about this. This new phone (second one, after returning first) is just sitting in my drawer and I'm back on my Excalibur. Squeaky cheap plastic is my pet peeve.
Unfortunately I'm through the 14 days return so I'm stuck with it.
I have one of the first HTC Dash 3G's, got it from Customer service before they were even available for sale online or stores, I have no problems with the buttons what-so-ever, no clicking, just smooth presses. I wonder if there was a shoddy batch that went through to some areas.
Try some rubbing alcohol
On my Ozone, I've noticed a bit of trouble with a few of the keys on the top row feeling spongy. I used a alcohol wipe to kind of loosen up the keys which worked great. I also had noticed the battery cover recently started creaking, so I tore a business card in half and placed it over the battery, which tightened that right up.
same problem here!
Now i know why there are less stocks of snap in asia! i have the same soft key problem, even after one to one exchange! am really disappointed with htc on this, not sure how many others have this problem and if there is anything we can do to fix this? maybe even take it apart??? arghhh...
I ended up selling my second Snap too.
Besides the sticky keys I just did not like it :-/
ookba's custom ROM made it a lot nicer but I just could not get used to the device. Yes the keyboard looks great but the overall design is odd (screen too small compared to the whole unit), it just did not feel balanced.
I have a bad feeling about the fate of the "standard" WinMo (non-touch) edition. The new professional devices are getting nicer. They need to get a new finger friendly OS and a proper capacitive touch screen - once they do that, non-touch will go extinct.
I guess it took me until now to see how Microsoft ignored mobile development for so long. What was killer technology in 2006 is just a mess by now.
I still love my Excalibur, I dare to say it was the best phone I ever had.
Here is how I imagine the perfect phone: Blackberry makes the hardware. Ookba joins Microsoft and they release WinMo 8, or so. XDA community builds GUI.
I really wonder how many people are facing this issue... sigh.
So far, it seems its happening all over the world. I have tested and changed 3units. The current one is a bit better ... at least the call button does not creaks as much. But I miss the e71 in terms of built quality. I was hoping there is some hack we can perform to fix this.
Hi guys
I bought my HTC Snap from Singapore. Experienced the same "weird" feeling, but only on the Call (Green) and End (Red) buttons.
Seems to be getting a tiny bit better after using it for a week (or maybe i've become accustomed haha)
Agree with you on the screen proportion thingy. I still love my old E61. Keyboard + Screen was spacious and lovely. Fast forward a few years and this is the best HTC could come up with?
Still scouring the forum for applications to customize my home screen (panels). WinMo 6.5. Any tips? Thanks in adv!
Hi All,
I know this is a HD2 forum, but I was just looking for some opinions on the new Dell Streak now on o2.
I am pleased with o2's phone releases since losing exclusivity on the iphone, and this recent release is quite impressive (and huge!).
Anyway, thoughts please...comparisons etc.
Thanks.
i was looking at that today..
i was considering getting rid of my hd2 for it..but then again..my pockets arent big enough for that phone lol..
so i decided to jsut stick with the hd2 untill they can port android on it or tmobile gets another android device with a 1ghz processor
too big , low quality plastic easily scratches, lower ram ,only landscape
Dell are calling this a tablet to be in the same class as the iPad. So considering the streaks screen is only .7 inches bigger than a hd2's what does that class our device as? A mobile phone, a PDA or a tablet? By Dells reconing it would be a tablet but the streak is really nothing more than a PDA with a phone module. If you look at it this way i'd rather keep my HD2.
I would like to have a play with one to see what its like, but according to the specs, its is huuuge! Would dwarf my HD2.
My feelings are I have had my HD2 for about 8 months now and it is still top end smartphone on the market. Not many other phones I have owned I can say that about. Roll on the next 8 months!
Thanks for the comments so far. I do not think that the Streak's screen size is big enough to warrant calling it a tablet, also, the casing around the device just makes it bigger than it needs to be IMO.
IMHO, I feel that the HD2 is still the best device on the market simply because no two look alike once XDA possesses your soul, and I am still interested in it 8 months on.
Come on competitors, what else can you throw at us? Try harder!
This is exactly the sort of device that I'd replace my HD2 with IMO. Rather than trade down for something with a smaller screen, because lets face it, I don't think any HD2 owners would ever consider doing this after experiencing such ease and clarity with a bigger screen, so the only option is to upgrade in size, and this device certainly ticks the boxes for me.
I love my HD2 and everything that I've been able to do with it since reading & putting into practice all the tweaks that I've learnt of this site, but I'm now feeling like enough is enough as miss the android feeling as it's more 'with the times' than WM. Android itself is growing at an alarming rate and will no doubt be the number 1 mobile OS in a very short time, and the dell streak is the perfect device to complement it.
On a slightly lesser note, it's a shame the device didn't ship with 2.1 or 2.2 but I guess at the time of production, 1.6 was version on offer. I also think the price is good, so selling the HD2 and putting a few quid in seems well worth it.
Too big.
The step from HD2 with 4.3" and thin frame to 5" and thick border is the one that kills convenience and portability for not much. The HD2 is very comfortable yet just fits well in the pocket, but nothing bigger would, and on the other hand 0.7" don't change much in usability.
Android might be the (only?) interesting point.
Just played with 1 in store today for about 10'
It's really huge, not fit in pocket absolutely.
But the screen and colors somehow amazing. With TFT screen, the screen is like a bigger one of HD2.
At 1st, I like the way Dell skin the homescreen, smooth and fast. We can choose how many homescreen, and manage the background apps (somehow).
No double tap, just pinch to zoom when browsing, got flash too.
5mp camera seem not so good.
Looks good apart from it being landscape only. I prefer to hold devices in portrait unless viewing photos/movies, so this alone rules it out for me
Just done some more research and it appears that the Dell does have an accelerometer so should work in both landscape and portrait, can anyone confirm this? Can you type etc in portrait?
didnt know it was landscape only, I am sure this will change with an update though. I have to say I was tempted but I think android has a way to go yet, it hasnt even got a decent video player yet - coreplayer may change that soon though... (dont hold your breath though)
I want one. Hoped I could purchase one from the UK but I would have to move there to do so. Got to wait a month. I hate waiting for anything.
Diane
I'm really tempted by the Streak now. I love huge screen and rarely make phone calls, but I love Winmo too. It's hard to say goodbye with my HD2
I like big screens but the dell has a little too much unused extra dimension for me. I'll wait for the Sony Ericsson 5.5 inch android phone
Actually probably not, HTC will probably have a 5.5 inch out first with minimal bezel like the hd2, and I'd want to get that one.
I have been trying to replace my iphone for about one year. I haven't found anything where the plastic is as nice and I like the way everything looks on the the iphone screen. Tried a few WinMo phones, but everything always looked so TEENY on the screen. A few weeks ago I bought the Nexus One. For a day or two I considered selling it and moving on to the next device, but little by little I am liking it. [I wish the screen was bigger.] I was considering the Dell. I like the Android o/s - **LOVE** Swype. I am getting very good at it now. I had a tough time typing on the Nexus, but with Swype my 'Swypos' are minimal !!
I have Tmobile. Not sure what other phones I could use. Want to stick with Android though.
The only thing that impresses me about the Dell streak is the Gorilla Glass
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/29/dell-streaks-gorilla-glass-screen-torture-tested-for-your-amus/
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The only thing that impresses me about the Dell streak is the Gorilla Glass
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/29/dell-streaks-gorilla-glass-screen-torture-tested-for-your-amus/
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And to think that I was thinking of getting a screen protector for this bad boy.
I took my friend to go get one yesterday, well what a joke, the guys in O2 aren't allowed to sell it sim free (in my town anyway), they didn't have one on show and we wanted to see it and have a play we both had to put our HD2's behind the counter so they would let us play with it for 5 whole mins (WOW).
So car-phone whorehouse we went 6 of the guys in their didn't even no what it was, even though there was a big poster on the wall, the one guy in there that could help, said yes we sell it sim free £429 i thought thats not bad considering, so he go's in the back to get one, comes out all red faced I'm so sorry guys we haven't even got it in stock yet, were not getting it till next week when the Dell rep comes, (What a joke surely you should no if you have that brand new device in the store yet), so as we walked out laughing we though Phones4U, hahahahaha never had such fun in my life spoke to a girl in there she just look puzzled, then the manager came over, he asked what we wanted explained what it was showed him the leaflet and he said were not getting that phone mate tbh were a sh%t store and just laughed. So he didn't get one went home and ordered one on-line, morale of the story don't go shopping in a poxy town like mine.
After playing with the device got to say it is fun, but
Too Big to use as a phone
landscape only sucks edit(turns out Paul confirmed its not)
you're gonna have to use a headset of some form to take calls
screen is tuff as boots.
I'll stick to the HD2 thanks
The HD 2 was and IS the best Smartphone on the market TODAY, until the HD3 comes
HTC has the most experience in building WM-devices and Android ones and - except obviously raped and misprogrammed Network-Provider-ROMS such as O2, Vodafone, T-mobile - has the most stable performance. I bought mine with HTC-stock-rom, and since ROM 1.48 (and the great mods from the geniouses here at XDA) no freeze occured ever. It is serving me without any flaw all over the world, and this is exactly the same experience that I always had with my Touch HD.
@hoss_n2
You know what you really do post a lot of rubbish on this forum and seem to be seriously misinformed to so I'll answer you points.
too big,
Maybe for you it is but that's just your personal opinion after all for many others it's a great or even perfect size.
low quality plastic easily scratches
Really and you know this how? I played with one today and it's a great quality plastic and feels really good and it's to early to say if it scratches easily or not as no one has owned one long enough. If you mean the screen as well that's also wrong as that's made of Gorilla Glass and their was a video of someone attacking it with a ball point pen and no damage was done check YouTube or Engadget to see it.
Oh and that's not just MO either but that of others that have already got their Streak which includes Paul from MoDoCo. I'm still waiting for mine to arrive.
lower ram
Really as Paul has just been running some tests on it seeing as he has already Rooted it yup in under 1 day it's Rooted and it's showing 408mb of free Ram so where do you get this low Ram idea from then.
only landscape
LMAO just wrong nothing more needs to said here it works in landscape and Portrait modes don't believe me read this post by Paul on MoDoCo where he confirms for some one that the seesmic app goes full screen both in portrait and landscape ?
In fact read the whole thread for his first thoughts on the Streak.
http://android.modaco.com/content/d...-streak-thoughts-dump-got-questions-ask-here/
Having now seen one hands on as opposed to just pictures or videos it is not as big as i thought it was going to be, now if it's to big for you only you can decide but it has to be bigger then an HD2 to fit in a 5" screen.
Marc
Hi guys,
Do to some over zealous clicking, I've managed to order both the Omnia 7 and Trophy phones. I'm going to send one of them back (unopened, so I can get my money back!), but the question is, which?
I know its a loaded question on this forum, but I'd be grateful for any advice.
My potential issues with the Omnia are:
1. There seems to be many more reports of faulty Omnia units than Trophy ones. It that your experience?
2. Samsung have a bad rep when it comes to updates, and the latest debacle with NoDo doesn't ease my mind. In your estimation, once they sort themselves out, does you see the upgrade to Mango going smoothly? (or even happening at all?)
3. Does the unit scratch easily? I have a Desire at the moment, and that has completely resisted all the abuse I've subjected it to and looks as good as new.
4. Is the power button placement really annoying?
By way of background, I've arrived at WP7 after long experience with iOS and Android, and I've fully researched WP7 - so I know that I will be happy with current functionality, though of course, I'm looking forward to future Mango goodness
Thanks for any help making my decision.
Cheers,
Ian
ianjohndawson said:
1. There seems to be many more reports of faulty Omnia units than Trophy ones. It that your experience?
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Not really, I've heard of a lot of Trophys that froze or restart themselves but that should be gone with the firmware updates I think.
With the Omnia 7 I have just heard some reports of dead pixels but mine has been fine and is running without problems for months now.
2. Samsung have a bad rep when it comes to updates, and the latest debacle with NoDo doesn't ease my mind. In your estimation, once they sort themselves out, does you see the upgrade to Mango going smoothly? (or even happening at all?)
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Nobody knows what the future brings, but I'm confident that the problems they had are now sorted out and will not affect the Mango-update. BTW I didn't have any problems updating either.
3. Does the unit scratch easily? I have a Desire at the moment, and that has completely resisted all the abuse I've subjected it to and looks as good as new.
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I always take care of my phones...my Omnia7 is looking like a new one after 6 months, as did the HD2 and the Xperia X1 before.
If you aren't careful, the camera lens might get scratched on a rough surface because it's very even with the housing.
4. Is the power button placement really annoying?
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A clear NO!
The power button placement is absolutely the best position one can have for it.
All my previous phones did switch on and unlock themselves when I placed the phone in my pocket (because then the phone is upside down and through gravity the button is pressed when moving). With the Omnia7 position this is no issue anymore. The button is easy to reach but there are no unwanted button presses anymore. I'm very glad the button is where it is and I doubt I would buy a phone with the power button on top anytime again.
You can't compare these two phones.
The trophy is a mid range device while the Omnia 7 is the best WP7 phone.
1. There seems to be many more reports of faulty Omnia units than Trophy ones. It that your experience?
From personal experience i seem to see most problems have been reported here on HD7s / DVPs
2. Samsung have a bad rep when it comes to updates, and the latest debacle with NoDo doesn't ease my mind. In your estimation, once they sort themselves out, does you see the upgrade to Mango going smoothly? (or even happening at all?)
The first ones were a bit of a **** up however by sticking to the carrier approval i don't really see much cause for concern. My updates went flawlessly on my Omnia 7. I can only see the process getting smoother
3. Does the unit scratch easily? I have a Desire at the moment, and that has completely resisted all the abuse I've subjected it to and looks as good as new.
Supposedly the Omnia 7 has Gorilla Glass so should be resistant. There is a thread on here about Gorilla Glass on the Omnia 7 and the absue people have subjected thier phones to. Check it out it should help ease your mind!
4. Is the power button placement really annoying?
I read about this in reviews and it is completely unfounded. It is not annoying and i have never accidently hit it during a call. If anything it is nice and easy to use as it is a natural place my thumb falls when i pick up the phone.
The Omnia 7 is a really nice unit. It's solidly built and the screen is gorgeous. I would definitely buy it again given the choice of any current WP7 handset.
1. There seems to be many more reports of faulty Omnia units than Trophy ones. It that your experience?
Not sure about the Trophy, but I have never had any problems with my Omnia 7. I have been using it pretty much since it came out in the UK
2. Samsung have a bad rep when it comes to updates, and the latest debacle with NoDo doesn't ease my mind. In your estimation, once they sort themselves out, does you see the upgrade to Mango going smoothly? (or even happening at all?)
Again, haven't had any problems with the NoDo update. I reckon Mango will be fine. Sorta related to updates, I think HTC will always be quicker to resolve any problems with firmware etc. Also they have better device specific apps. Samsung apps are useless on the whole and haven't been updated for a while now.
3. Does the unit scratch easily? I have a Desire at the moment, and that has completely resisted all the abuse I've subjected it to and looks as good as new.
I've got one little nick on the plastic bit around the phone and 2 very fine scratches on the screen after about 5 months of abuse. I tend to drop my phones a lot.. certainly looks better than my Desire did after 5 months
4. Is the power button placement really annoying?
I reckon some reviewers just got lazy and copied each other regarding this point. If they bothered to use the phone, they would find that there is no problem at all with the button placement! I've never accidentally switched off the phone during a phone call or while i've been using the phone.. I think it was just a theoretical issue from lazy reviewers! As others have been saying, the button location is actually pretty handy for when you want to lock your phone etc.
I don't really have any regrets about the handset itself. It seems to perform as expected... I'd only say that the storage space may not be enough for some people and also the Samsung apps are pretty pants compared to HTC and LG.. and I don't see them improving!
Thanks guys, that was really really helpful - decision made! (on the side of the Omnia, obviously)
Hopefully it'll be with me by the end of the week in time to distract me from the Royal Wedding, and see me through to the explosion of new WP7 phones in 2012
I could not agree more. I bought Omnia 7 three times. Each almost every month I have been replacing with a brand new one and it just delights me to look at when it looks me back with those colours.
Well, I like my Omnia and will keep it probably. But in my opinion the screen has its flaws. The color and the blacks are gorgeous but the resolution is not. You could see that especially with smaller fonts. Not a big deal for me but it's a fact. If you hold the phone normally you wouldn't even recognise.
Well it arrived yesterday with an unexpected bonus - it's the 16gb version! Unbranded other than a T-mobile splash screen. I've resisted flashing it, will wait to see what happens with updates over the next month.
Everything everyone said about the screen is true, was surprised how great it was, and how well it works in daylight. Button placement is great, it really
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Gonna join the chorus and quote each question and answer immediately after. Hope my answers can lend some insight!
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1. There seems to be many more reports of faulty Omnia units than Trophy ones. It that your experience?
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I've had some minor dramas with my Omnia 7. A few months ago in January when it was raining constantly for like 3 weeks and the air was thick with moisture, the phone kept constantly beeping as though it was being plugged in to charge, even when it wasn't. It stopped doing this after the weather fined up and hasn't done it since. I'm going to assume it was moisture related. Another problem I've had is the audio sometimes doesn't record in video recorder mode. See the thread in this forum for my experiences with this issue (which seems to have gone away since I installed NoDo via Chevron updater).
2. Samsung have a bad rep when it comes to updates, and the latest debacle with NoDo doesn't ease my mind. In your estimation, once they sort themselves out, does you see the upgrade to Mango going smoothly? (or even happening at all?)
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This one comes down to the carriers in my opinion. I'm in Australia, and they're only just now rolling out the NoDo update. Meanwhile it's been officially available in other territories. So your mileage will vary.
Honestly though, if the hacking community keeps it up, and I can get Mango via Chevron updater or some other method, I really couldn't care how long Optus takes.
3. Does the unit scratch easily? I have a Desire at the moment, and that has completely resisted all the abuse I've subjected it to and looks as good as new.
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I really hate to admit it, as I'm typically quite precious with my gadgets, but I've drunkenly dropped my phone several times. Once it hit concrete, landing on the corner which resulted in it being sort of flattened, which was purely cosmetic and I managed to fix on my own anyway.
Another time I dropped it and it went screen first straight flat onto concrete and not a thing happened. Other than that I've kept it in pockets without other items, so there hasn't been any chance for the screen to scratch, really. But I've noticed no structural damage beyond the corner I mentioned. It seems to be quite a resilient screen. Really, it's going strong considering the regrettable abuse.
4. Is the power button placement really annoying?
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NO! I absolutely LOVE where it's placed. I was a little concerned when I read reviewers talking about accidentally turning off the phone while talking on it... but now I don't even know what they were talking about!
I typically hold my phone in my left hand so I can swipe with my right index finger, and the lock key ends up right under where my index finger rests, so I can lock and unlock it without having to move my finger positions so (excluding drunken negligence), I don't have to worry about dropping the phone while fumbling to re-lock it. It really is ideal, and I'm glad the Galaxy S II (which I am pushing my sister to buy) has the same placement. Samsung is really onto something, I think
Edit: Poop. Didn't notice you already made your mind. Whoops!
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Yes it is!! When I got mine I bought a an advanced flexishield skin porduct code 26589 from Mobilefun. Its great and I recomnmend something like this to avoid dropping it. The Omnia 7 is a fantastic WP7 and I am loving it!!
Hi everyone!
I was just wondering how everyone's Optimus 7 is holding up! Searching in Google I did not find that many problems... but I've been through hell with it!
First there were some fixed color vertical lines in the display... this was around 9 months after purchase. I did get bothered, but since they require 1 month (!!!) to send the repaired phone back to you here in Italy, I didn't send it.
Then it started rebooting a lot... gave some memory errors... and then finally would lock at the LG logo after rebooting a few times. Obviously at this point I sent it to repair... Ah, and the touchscreen was also not responsive at times.
I got it back, and the service center said that they made "electronic repairs". Fair enough, but... the touchscreen was still not responsive at times (the other problems were fixed)!
Then I send it again... got it back, now they said the exchanged the full motherboard. Should be fixed now, right? WRONG!!! Still the same problem!
Today I just sent it ONE MORE TIME to the repair center... I've been now almost two months without my phone, and I bought it only 13 months ago.
I've really lost faith in LG by now... So, what's YOUR experience with the phone? Am I unlucky or are these problems really common?
I've had no issues, and I can't really return mine as I live in the US and am using an unsupported phone.
The gorilla glass was a big seller for me because I hate screen protectors and even when they are on I still manage to scrath the glass. Aside from a minor scrath on the one side, the phone has taken my abuse with flying colors.
Was able to update and unlock my phone and runs quite well on AT&T's network.
Though there have been other reports of the issues you have had, I guess I'm just lucky.
not lucky too, my phone is now in service after a month use, i had problems with touchscreen
u talked about "not responsive at times", mine was working for itself - running application, scrolling on it's own, etc., once i look at the screen and had about 200 appointments
and as i red somewhere here, it was worse when i connected the phone to a charger, the difference was that i used original charger
My family use two E900 and two E906. No problems so far with the phones after a couple of months
Hardware wise it's fine and i am still pleased with it, it does not get recognized anymore by Zune though so probably i will be left behind when the new update comes up lol.
I have 2 of them and both of them randomly restart... I cannot use them anymore! LG Service in my country is unreliable and I'm saving money to buy 2 other models... LG devices are crap and I wouldn't say that if they were trying to support their customers with firmware updates or even some official announcements...they have left us eating their s%^& instead...
I bought one last October and it works fine till now (i receive all the updates)
It is vodafone branded and never flash it .
Well, mine (vodafone de) got a problem with the battery (poor) and video recording. It just freezes the camera app after I click cam button to end the recording.
Since I'm in russia and the service is in deutschland... it's dumb to send it back and then here again) It's easier to buy $300 lumia 710 here / $150 focus on ebay. Since I don't really use recording, i don't mind, I'll wait for wp8 devices.
As for the updates - flawless! I got them almost instantly, loving vodafone and LG support for the platform.
After 8 months mine started randomly reboot on its own, and as LG Support is not working across Europe I am now fighting seller (Amazon) to repair it. If not, I try to sell or repair and sell it.
And as I was never happy with WinPhone I hope I will get my money back and go for Android or iPhone afterall. Use to have WinMobile-system phones since 2004 but new Windows Phone is just a great mistake of Microsoft - greed is not always good advisor.
Hi All,
My Optimus is holding up quite well. I did have issues with the intermittent shutdown / reboot. This has disappeared since 8107 (maybe simply some luck?). I flashed my phone with a firmware from the forum here (thanks Nasirahmed), since then I have a dutch ROM and tethering. Then I updated with the force method to 8107 (I have little patience ).
Hardwarewise my Optimus has been topnotch. I dropped it from considerable heigth a few times and after reassembly of the battery and batterydoor it still works very well and there is no visible damage. Quite different from my former HTC diamond 2 and Xperia. The Xperia disintegrated spontaneous, got repaired and continued disintegrating. The Diamond 2 fell three times (from less heigth) every time there was visible damage and eventually the screen got broken (and repaired I must say). So I think the Optimus is a quite sturdy device.
Windows phone 7 is nice and fast, has considerable limitations (compared to for example Android and WM6.5) and I doubt it if I would buy a WP7 again.
My two cents.
Ronald
My phone came up today from the third visit to the repair center... let's see if it is finally OK!
About the Gorilla glass, something weird happened to me: after I dropped a few water drops on the screen back in December, some "air bubbles" appeared on the screen... When I first took the phone to assistance, the guy just said that it was the screen protector (???) and just removed it (in front of me), so indeed there is a screen protector... I neved noticed it before the bubbles appeared.
Anyway, if the glass of the screen is Gorilla Glass, why does it comes from the factory with a screen protector? Do I need to buy a new one (he said this wasn't covered in the warranty...)?
I removed my screenprotector also. It annoyed me, and the device has Gorilla glass, so what can happen??
No issues here. In fact, its been an incredibly stable & sturdy phone for me.
Ive dropped it more times than I care to admit to & it has very little to show for it.
The screen has only one tiny scratch, no idea how it happened considering I have been at it with a chisel, screwdriver, keys, drill & craft knife since to see if they do any damage. That screen is near indestructible.
I love how well built it feels. I pulled off the charger cover a few months after buying it (which was as soon as it was available in the uk)
Software wise, Ive not had many problems either. Used to have the odd random restart here & there, but that was fixed when mango appeared.
So yeah, still a happy chappy
Sincerely? Like s**t.
It's the worst phone I have ever had. WP7 is great, no complains here. But considering how tight the OEM specs for WP7 is, LG screwed in everything they could.
The screen is just average at best;
The camera is probably the worst in 1st gen Windows Phone;
The physical buttons are a good idea, but they are too big and the plastic is too cheap. Specially the Windows button;
The battery-life is short, really short. Before and after Mango;
And the random resets, at least once a day, sometimes in the middle of a conversation.
My next phone will be another Windows Phone, but I will never buy anything from LG again, not only phones...
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Sincerely? Like s**t.
It's the worst phone I have ever had. WP7 is great, no complains here. But considering how tight the OEM specs for WP7 is, LG screwed in everything they could.
The screen is just average at best;
The camera is probably the worst in 1st gen Windows Phone;
The physical buttons are a good idea, but they are too big and the plastic is too cheap. Specially the Windows button;
The battery-life is short, really short. Before and after Mango;
And the random resets, at least once a day, sometimes in the middle of a conversation.
My next phone will be another Windows Phone, but I will never buy anything from LG again, not only phones...
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I don't agree with all your complaints, even though I will also not go to LG again due to my own problems. Anyway, before all the hardware faults I had, my main complaints were:
1) VERY, VERY bad auto white balance in the camera. When the flash was on, 70% of the times I got completely blueish images.
2) I like the idea of actual physical buttons... but not this noisy! When in bed these buttons can actually wake my girlfriend (yes, she is a light sleeper).
I have no problems at all; only the battery is draining too fast even with all battery saving options turned on and also in airplane mode But the hardware buttons are great! It´s great that you never can hit them accidentally And I love the aluminium backcover, it looks so good! The display is also good, but in daylight its sometime hard to read... Now I´m only missing a custom rom and some apps or games like Tap Tap Revenge
Apparently battery life is a common problem among optimus 7 users. I haven't had any problem with mine (I've had mine for 6 months) except for a terrible battery life while HDSPA connection is on.
mine is rebooting like crazy now. I'll bring it today to my dealer, for repair. but I think LG will screw me, because mine is vodafone-rebranded, and originally it was OPN. Although the issue has nothing to do with the flash, and they certainly know that, because it seems that sooner or later, al Optimus 7 will start rebooting and fail the SD
My Optimus 7 started rebooting randomly, and also the battery wasn't lasting as long.
Buying a new (real LG) replacement battery seems to have cured both problems
Time to say something positive about the E900
It is the best mobile in terms of reception that I ever had. 2G, 2.5G, 3G (HSDPA) are stable and fast (T-Mobile in Germany). Compared to my former devices (HTC Legend and Samsung Galaxy S) this is excellent.
The Wifi reception is even better than my laptop's Wifi (Dell Latitude E5410) and definetly best among my three mobile phones.
Wifi tethering works absolutely flawless, no need for cables anymore.
I received updates always with one of the first waves (besides tethering which arrived first on Vodafone branded devices). For the old HTC Legend as well as the Samsung Galaxy S there are no more firmware updates expected. But LG and Microsoft still deliver updates for the first generation LG E900. That's what I call a good service.
Sure, there are some points the E900 is not rocking. The display is very bright at night (you can light up a whole cinema ) and doesn't have the colors of the AMOLED displays but we knew that before buying it. But the TFT doesn't have the gaps between the pixels like AMOLED displays.
And the camera is no DSLR. With good light conditions it is ok for snapshots. But for real photos I would never use the optics of a mobile phone. And I don't want LG to integrate a fullsize DSLR chip and lenses. That won't fit in my pocket
Ah, yeah, the random reboots. Had that issue on my device as well. But it occurs less often than my Samsung Galaxy S is hanging completely.
Summarizing I am happy with the E900 and I will continue to use it as long as LG and Microsoft provide support for it. It was a great deal to buy it a year ago for just 190 EUR.
While the M8 looks amazing, I have concerns about the build quality.
I own the last few HTC flagships, so a bit of background.
Desire HD - amazing phone. Absolutely sold me on Android. The wife still uses it.
One X - I rushed out to buy this as the DHD was that good. I had to exchange this phone 4 times due to QC issues - all documented (flex, bleed, dead pixels, etc). The good phone I eventually got now has a bad strip on the digitizer. The bottom row of the keyboard / just above the unlock ring is dead. Out of warranty and unlocked so no chance with HTC. DOA - no new phone for the wife (see above).
One (M7) - amazing phone again, ran out and bought it at launch. It wasn't until I got it home that I noticed a dead pixel and a hair just under the screen. Maddening! Had to return that one as well. Took a month for my carrier to get more back in stock to replace it. In the end, this phone is close to perfect.
One (M8) - ?
Not trying to start any kind of flamewar, but my faith in HTC is waning. Are they the new Microsoft, only release anything good every other?
Just looking for feedback on the build quality on the M8.
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I thought HTC has had a pretty good reputation for build quality with the One X being the exception, not the norm for HTC. And that bad pixel on the M7, that's just bad luck that could happen on any phone.
So far, sounds like the build quality on the M8 is really good. I have less concerns about HTC's build quality than I do about some other phone manufactures (I'll avoid the flame war by not mentioning names, haha).
I have two M8's here, one has a screen that is darker and yellower than the other. Not happy, it will be going back tomorrow.
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I have two M8's here, one has a screen that is darker and yellower than the other. Not happy, it will be going back tomorrow.
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Had that issue on the m7 as well. A speaker blew (4 out of 5 HTC phones I've owned had blown speakers) so I filed a claim. I think it took 4 or 5 tries before I got an acceptable replacement. It was still darker and yellower than my original tho
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I've had pretty good luck with my HTC phones. I'm still rocking the launch day m7.
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That should be called the trolls thread!
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That should be called the trolls thread!
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Not sure how you see this as a "Troll thread"? - OP is asking for feedback and if anyone else has or had concerns regarding build quality issues.
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My HTC One (Red) was pretty solid, however I feel any issues that the One may of had were probably Ironed out by the time the red was released into the wild. - Hopefully HTC will come back with a big bang, like Nokia they've been around a long time.. Just wondering now when the Samsung buzz will wear off and people start to choose stylish, good looking, feature orientated devices over a plastic device. (Not flaming Samsung, as I've had an S3 and an N3)
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Not sure how you see this as a "Troll thread"? - OP is asking for feedback and if anyone else has or had concerns regarding build quality issues.
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My HTC One (Red) was pretty solid, however I feel any issues that the One may of had were probably Ironed out by the time the red was released into the wild. - Hopefully HTC will come back with a big bang, like Nokia they've been around a long time.. Just wondering now when the Samsung buzz will wear off and people start to choose stylish, good looking, feature orientated devices over a plastic device. (Not flaming Samsung, as I've had an S3 and an N3)
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And everyone knows these types of threads draw out every single device basher which gives a false representation of the actual prevalence of build quality issues.
That said, name just one device that didn't have any.
As for my HTC experience, the One has been a dream... The rest of them all had a lot of issues. If the M8 follows the M7, there won't be any issues. The ONLY complaint I had about my M7 is the camera tint when not in good lighting that came up and got worse the longer I had the phone.
Speakers? Perfect
Gap? None
Display? Perfect
Durability? Incredible.
If you look in my signature, I've had a ton of HTC devices. Among them, there were some really bad ones. The Sensation? Damn thing got so hot that it would reboot if I used the GPS which made it useless for navigating anywhere. MyTouch 4G? Every time I would restart the device, it would lose its internal storage and act like I factory reset it - it was doing that out of the box. PPC-6800? I lost track of the issues between the screen, overheating, freezing, cracked camera - I replaced it through Sprint 5 times before they gave me a Touch Pro in exchange for it. The original Touch? The screen stopped responding. The Hero? The display cracked even though there was no damage to the glass - the whole thing randomly shattered internally one day.
After the Sensation, I vowed never to go HTC again. Then I got the S4 and my roommate got the One. He couldn't get used to the One coming from the S3 so he wanted to trade me, I did it and I never looked back.
If you found issue in all the HTC phones you bought till now, I'm pretty sure you will have some issue with this as well.
I'm seeing a trend, are you not seeing it?
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If you found issue in all the HTC phones you bought till now, I'm pretty sure you will have some issue with this as well.
I'm seeing a trend, are you not seeing it?
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That's my point though - the camera issue with the M7 was likely something HTC couldn't predict until it happened since it was heat specific. Before that, my M7 the first flawless build quality device I have had since the BlackBerry Curve.
You have a Nexus and you're worried about HTC build quality?
Case in point: all mass-produced computers, tablets, and phones have isolated build quality issues. It happens. There's no sense in worrying about what may or may not happen with a device - if I was going on my track record with previous HTC devices, I would have expected to replace my One at least 2 times by now. But that didn't happen.
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That's my point though - the camera issue with the M7 was likely something HTC couldn't predict until it happened since it was heat specific. Before that, my M7 the first flawless build quality device I have had since the BlackBerry Curve.
You have a Nexus and you're worried about HTC build quality?
Case in point: all mass-produced computers, tablets, and phones have isolated build quality issues. It happens. There's no sense in worrying about what may or may not happen with a device - if I was going on my track record with previous HTC devices, I would have expected to replace my One at least 2 times by now. But that didn't happen.
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I buy almost all phones and sell my old ones.. So I never cared about build quality since I don't keep phones for long. The point I'm trying to make is every phone will have something, even if they make a perfect phone some user will nitpick some thing.
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While the M8 looks amazing, I have concerns about the build quality.
I own the last few HTC flagships, so a bit of background.
Desire HD - amazing phone. Absolutely sold me on Android. The wife still uses it.
One X - I rushed out to buy this as the DHD was that good. I had to exchange this phone 4 times due to QC issues - all documented (flex, bleed, dead pixels, etc). The good phone I eventually got now has a bad strip on the digitizer. The bottom row of the keyboard / just above the unlock ring is dead. Out of warranty and unlocked so no chance with HTC. DOA - no new phone for the wife (see above).
One (M7) - amazing phone again, ran out and bought it at launch. It wasn't until I got it home that I noticed a dead pixel and a hair just under the screen. Maddening! Had to return that one as well. Took a month for my carrier to get more back in stock to replace it. In the end, this phone is close to perfect.
One (M8) - ?
Not trying to start any kind of flamewar, but my faith in HTC is waning. Are they the new Microsoft, only release anything good every other?
Just looking for feedback on the build quality on the M8.
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I kinda feel your pain...
1. One X, Launch day, before the embargo... Still have it. No issues at all.
2. One (m7), Launch day... Glass was crooked. MEaning it dipped in at the bottom and stuck out at the top. Took it back got another, dead pixel... Finally got a third that was decent.
3. One Max (m6) - Used... Perfect, no complaints.
3. One M8 - Perfect. No complaints...
We all know the One (m7) had some issues... It was luck of the draw.
I have no hesitations except screen size. Coming from N3 and One Max... Its hard to go back to 5"
And fwiw sometimes these threads cause people to look at their device so closely and see they have the same thing and then it bothers them. Had they never come across a thread like this they probably wouldn't have noticed (the small imperfections not big defects)
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I know this type of thread will always bring out trolls / fanboys of other manufacturers, but that's not my intention.
I don't think I'm being too picky when I shell out 600 bucks for a phone and expect it to be nearly perfect. I understand there are always flaws in any mass produced electronic device, but to me a dead pixel is unacceptable - once you see it, it can't be unseen. My phone has the purple tint issue with the camera, but I don't care about that. Some may say I'm being nitpicky about a pixel, but I could say the same about others who complain about the camera. To each their own I guess.
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If you found issue in all the HTC phones you bought till now, I'm pretty sure you will have some issue with this as well.
I'm seeing a trend, are you not seeing it?
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I'm not exactly sure what your point is. Yes, I'm seeing a trend, hence me creating this thread to see if others are experiencing issues with the M8. So I'm expected to just suck it up and deal with it if I'm not happy? I continue to buy HTC as I like the design, non-OLED screen, Sense and the community here on XDA.
I really am just looking for others experience with the build quality of the M8.
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I kinda feel your pain...
1. One X, Launch day, before the embargo... Still have it. No issues at all.
2. One (m7), Launch day... Glass was crooked. MEaning it dipped in at the bottom and stuck out at the top. Took it back got another, dead pixel... Finally got a third that was decent.
3. One Max (m6) - Used... Perfect, no complaints.
3. One M8 - Perfect. No complaints...
We all know the One (m7) had some issues... It was luck of the draw.
I have no hesitations except screen size. Coming from N3 and One Max... Its hard to go back to 5"
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I'm actually struggling a little with the phone being to big haha. Its pretty cool though. No actual real complaints yet.
I've had a new htc every year for the past 10 or so.
I have not had to return one of them.
The last time I had to bring a HTC phone back was in the touch pro 2 days lol. I guess I'm lucky
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I have a HTC One X and I haven't had any issues with it except for band compatibility. Also, the M8 looks nice but I wonder will the metal on it scratch easily?
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I bought the M8 from Verizon yesterday and I have zero issues. Screen is gorgeous, no yellowing. There are no gap issues like the M7. Screen is flush with the boom sound speakers. The build quality is outstanding. I had three M7s and each one had issues. One with gaps but a flush screen. One with no gaps but the screen was not flush. And one had gaps and the screen was off.
This phone is easily the highest build quality phone I've ever had. And I have been through many phones.
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I really really can speak out of experience, having owned many HTC devices!
HTC Desire - Fantastic phone, no issues, camera lens was very easy to scratch though and after two years the backplate of the phone became loose.
HTC Desire HD - Fantastic phone, no issues there either. I think my only gripe was the AWFUL side cover for the battery and the bottom plastic part of the phone. If I ran my finger over the bottom of the phone there was a difference in levels between the sim-card cover and the body of the phone. No big issue though, and not really a build quality issue either, more of a design flaw.
HTC Mozart - Terrible phone. Lovely design but the phone got dust underneath the screen after having it for just two months. Luckily it was only a temporary phone though. I smashed my Desire HD and picked up a Mozart new in a sale. I got the Sensation three months later.
HTC Sensation & Sensation XE - This phone had a somewhat strange design. The entire back of the phone would come off and it wrapped around the front slightly. After removing the cover two or three times it didn't fit as snugly as it once did and every time you pressed a capacitive button it would result in the phone creaking against the back of the body of the phone. Hard to explain, once again more of a design flaw.
HTC One X - By far the worst HTC phone, but down to design flaws once again. Wi-Fi antenna was stuck to the body of the phone, not the internal of the phone, Tegra 3 chipset would heat up a LOT resulting in the polycarbonate expanding and you being left with no Wi-Fi signal or a very weak one indeed. In terms of other things, such as dead pixels I never experienced this. All in all I had about 6 HTC One Xs in a short space of time due to the Wi-Fi issue, and the Wi-Fi issue was the only problem I had with them. I switched to a GS3 due to this.
HTC One (M7) - I have had about 10 HTC One's in the past year, I got one on release day though and it had the infamous gap issue. This is somewhat a design issue, once again, but could also be a build quality issue as they shouldn't have been let out of QC like that. Due to the complex design of the phone, the edges are prone to sticking out and being "un-even" with the metal housing on the speakers. At the top and bottom of the phones there is often a hairline gap between the polycarbonate and the speaker frame too. On the sides of the phone, the black plastic strips are prone to being uneven, the volume rocker can become loose sometimes. The white polycarbonate was prone to staining and getting dirty, but this isn't really an issue it's to be expected. It's important to note that though annoying, none of these issues rendered the phone unusable. Maybe just unacceptable in some people preferences (mine, I'm a perfectionist and dropping £479 on a phone is a lot)
I will be getting the M8, and I will be an early adopter. I love HTC phones, they are the best regardless.