Why doesn't nandroid back up kernels? - Vibrant General

Iirc it did on my old g1. Is it a clockwork limitation?
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I would like to know that too. More specifically though, why doesn't ROM manager have this *basic* functionality? OCLF does... Weird ...
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Ask Koush to support it?
@koush
He is an amazing developer!!

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Ask Koush to support it?
@koush
He is an amazing developer!!
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Agreed.
I have his Kernel on a plain Froyo and like it. A lot.
Your Bible is and has been a GREAT tool. (thats you right?)
I also would like to have a better understanding between kernels, ROMs, and versions, and how and what gets backed up with Rom Manager and clockwork.
What are the differences in all the versions and how and why some work together and some don't. Just basic understanding so I can select and build my components properly for my device. Can't help it, its fun to learn this stuff.

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Am I te only one still using rfs?

The only thing keeping me from flashing all these new roms is the ext4 requirement -_-
Why doesn't anyonebuild a rom with rfs? I can't wait for schizopunk to get EE updated to eb13. I think he's the only dev that still supports rfs. Luckily his roms are always stable
I wish I knew how to write/alter code
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I'm still using RFS.
Running Daemon's dodex, Stock EB13 ROM. Installed Genocide kernel 0.3a to fix the camera issues. Custom boot and custom battery icon.
If you cared to know what I had anyway. Personally, I prefer the piecemeal method of putting my phone together instead of simply installing a new ROM. I wish we had a kitchen like joeykrim created for the Moment.
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I'm still using RFS.
Running Daemon's dodex, Stock EB13 ROM. Installed Genocide kernel 0.3a to fix the camera issues. Custom boot and custom battery icon.
If you cared to know what I had anyway. Personally, I prefer the piecemeal method of putting my phone together instead of simply installing a new ROM. I wish we had a kitchen like joeykrim created for the Moment.
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Actually, that was the exact kindof respone I was looking for...lol
I like the piecemeal too, but there's only like 3 thins that I can flash. Everything else is cwm 3 :/
I'm running stock eb13 wih the odin flashable fix for the camera
How's genocide? I'm wary of dual-support kernals. I feel like...it won't be fully utilized or something lol
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why dont you want to use ext4?
Also running RFS. I'm running stock except for the camera fix kernel. Tried Genocide but didn't like it. Syndicaterom looks interesting but it's not clear whether it will run on RFS.
EXT 4 is sooo much faster. it adds 400+ in quadrant on top of any rom you are using. thats if you are a numbers guy. but you will feel how much faster ext 4 does everything. the frozen rom is AMAZING 2400+ quadrant. the phone is done booting before the boot ani is done thats how much faster this phone is with those mods.
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Actually, that was the exact kindof respone I was looking for...lol
I like the piecemeal too, but there's only like 3 thins that I can flash. Everything else is cwm 3 :/
I'm running stock eb13 wih the odin flashable fix for the camera
How's genocide? I'm wary of dual-support kernals. I feel like...it won't be fully utilized or something lol
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FYI: You can flash CW3 mods in CW2. Just not the other way around.
cesar424 said:
why dont you want to use ext4?
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I don't like the concept of changing the "native" filesystem...
When there's official support for ext4, then ima be flashin away, until then samsung won't have any bit of liability if I messed up something lol
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poit said:
Also running RFS. I'm running stock except for the camera fix kernel. Tried Genocide but didn't like it. Syndicaterom looks interesting but it's not clear whether it will run on RFS.
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Yeah syndicate rom caught m eye...until I saw "EXT 4 ONLY"
I didn't bother reading the thread
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FYI: You can flash CW3 mods in CW2. Just not the other way around.
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WAIT WUT. So edified scripts CAN be flashed?
So if there's a .zip for cwm3 for a hot fix, it'll work? Just nothing dealing with thekernal and important tings like that right?
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A_Flying_Fox said:
I don't like the concept of changing the "native" filesystem...
When there's official support for ext4, then ima be flashin away, until then samsung won't have any bit of liability if I messed up something lol
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but there's no official support for mods you'd be installing on RFS, so isnt that the same thing?
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EXT 4 is sooo much faster. it adds 400+ in quadrant on top of any rom you are using. thats if you are a numbers guy. but you will feel how much faster ext 4 does everything. the frozen rom is AMAZING 2400+ quadrant. the phone is done booting before the boot ani is done thats how much faster this phone is with those mods.
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I lost faith in numbrs when geniusdog showed how to inflate them
My friends g1 gets higher quadrant scores than me...because he put that kernal hack on it. I lol when we're waiting 5 seconds for the app drawer to open so we can get to quadrant inthe first place on his phone lol
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cesar424 said:
but there's no official support for mods you'd be installing on RFS, so isnt that the same thing?
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I feel like the filesystem is something that shouldn't be messed with unofficialy because somethings might work betterwhile others stop working alltogether...
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I hope you guys know I'm not knocking ext4
I just feel safer using the standard format lol
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i didnt think you were knockin it, i was just curious why you weren't using it
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I trust xda devs more then samsung. the fs isnt too much of a concern really with linux. as long as the drivers work fine. And they do work fine.
Theres always odin to stock of you need.
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ext 4 is what is supported by google. thats why the devs felt the need to change it. also the cm3 is the gingerbread recovery. so which also tells you that the newer phones have that file system. also if you did mess uo something then you just odin and it only flashes the stock file system. in my previous comment when i was saying quadrant numbers i said thats if your a numbers guy. but you will feel in actual use of how much faster ext 4 is. there is a reason that only ext 4 is being supported by the devs. and ee really that guy is gay. this frozen rom is AMAZING none the less. read the rom thread you will see why.
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ext 4 is what is supported by google. thats why the devs felt the need to change it. also the cm3 is the gingerbread recovery. so which also tells you that the newer phones have that file system. also if you did mess uo something then you just odin and it only flashes the stock file system. in my previous comment when i was saying quadrant numbers i said thats if your a numbers guy. but you will feel in actual use of how much faster ext 4 is. there is a reason that only ext 4 is being supported by the devs. and ee really that guy is gay. this frozen rom is AMAZING none the less. read the rom thread you will see why.
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Rofl "and ee...really man? That guys a effing fag" rofl that's how that was interpreted. Rofl omg
Anyways, theres no downside to ext4? Nothing gets broken? I can't see that bein the case converting a whole filesystem...
Are .mkv's still supported?
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EXT4 > RFS
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EXT4 > RFS
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LOL
Well...that gets to thepoint
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Help me keep my Epic!

I've had my Epic for about a few days now and I'm starting to feel like I made the wrong choice. I chose mostly on the hardware, than the software. The battery drains like the phone has a hole in it, the TW UI is just bad and I can't use the regular launcher. I'm sure this phone would be better with pure android. So what should I do? ROMs, Kernals, etc. Thanks in advance!
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If I were you I would install some kernals.
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Well hurry up and return it for a nexus... you only have 30 days.
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lazydazed said:
Well hurry up and return it for a nexus... you only have 30 days
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Why downgrade? Go with Colonel Twilight and the Frozen revolution! It's nearly pure android experience. Only catch is you have to give Mystery a kiss.
Mushmaster said:
If I were you I would install some kernals.
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What exactly do kernals do?
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Well hurry up and return it for a nexus... you only have 30 days
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I'm thinking about it.
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Seriously though, did you try launcher pro or adw or any other launcher yet? Get a task killer, estrongs is the one I use. Use it. Move all apps that don't have a widget to the sd card.. custom roms IMO are still too buggy..
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There's definitely a nice selection of Kernels and ROM's available, take a look at the development section, read through some of the features of the different ones available, and see if you find one you'd like to try.
In the end, whether you keep the phone or return it for a Nexus, is all up to you... none of us can really answer this for you, because we all have different wants and needs in our phones.
And fwiw, software side of this phone can be easily modified/customized, so if you're happy with the hardware, then perhaps you should look into the software customization.
xizzmatt said:
What exactly do kernals do?
I'm thinking about it.
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Well the kernel has tweaks in it that can save battery... I'd go with syndicate rom frozen with the genocide 1.1 kernel... pretty good combo for me, I can have my screen on for about 4hrs and I'm sure if you use the phone less you can get a few days out of it
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Custom roms are buggy? Lol what have you been trying?
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Seriously though, did you try launcher pro or adw or any other launcher yet? Get a task killer, estrongs is the one I use. Use it. Move all apps that don't have a widget to the sd card.. custom roms IMO are still too buggy..
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Is CyanogenMod out for the Epic? I had it on the Hero and never had a problem
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Custom roms are buggy? Lol what have you been trying?
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Yeah the only buggy rom's are some of the gingerbread roms and there LEAKS... if you want a stable rom syndicate 1.2 is the one to go with.
EDIT: cyanogen is out but not a daily driver yet ie: many things are broken and they are waiting for gingerbread source.
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Is CyanogenMod out for the Epic? I had it on the Hero and never had a problem
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No and probably won't be for some time.
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A good tip to remember...if you do go the custom ROM route, some have no journaling. If you choose one of those, make sure you power down phone completely and don't let battery die or you will get force closes out the arse. If this my be an issue for you, get a ROM with journal on or flash the journal on mod after flashing the ROM.
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Probably a dumb question, but can I root and install a rom w/o going on a computer?
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Syndicate Rom. It's absolutely awesome and very few bugs with almost all features working that I have noticed. Turns the Epic into the EPIC!!!!
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Go with SyndicateROM Frozen. The 1.1 version needs updating ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091680 ) on the ClockworkMod. The 1.2 version ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131544 ) requires the latest ClockworkMod ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115999 ). You need to flash modem to EC05 with Odin.
What I did was flashing modem to EC05, put the first CWM on the phone, then installed SynROM Frozen 1.1. After that, I updated the CWM, then updated to 1.2. I think the 1.2 is not full package (?) and upgrade from the 1.1 (?). Rodderik will update the 1.2 version with latest CWM. You can either wait for that update or continue with the steps that I did toward the 1.2 version.
Edit - SynROM Frozen 1.1 comes with ClockworkMod included. When you get it installed, just update the ClockworkMod (what I did was using the flash method with Odin) then upgrade to 1.2 version.
xizzmatt said:
I've had my Epic for about a few days now and I'm starting to feel like I made the wrong choice. I chose mostly on the hardware, than the software. The battery drains like the phone has a hole in it, the TW UI is just bad and I can't use the regular launcher. I'm sure this phone would be better with pure android. So what should I do? ROMs, Kernals, etc. Thanks in advance!
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Dump sprint altogether and get a htc sensation with tmo or if you really want to stick with sprint get the evo 3d.
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I chose mostly on the hardware, than the software.
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You had it partially right. Hardware is paramount simply because you can replace the software with better software but you can't replace what drives it. Root your phone with the new purple CWM and then give the Syndicate rom a try. What kernel you choose for it depends on your phone since they each take to certain kernels differently. I am personally using the second to last version of the Genocide kernel and voltage control with great results.
Think of the rom as a car's body that you can choose to option and the kernel as its engine.
I prefer Go Launcher over Launcher Pro and Handcent over all the others available.
If you want incredible battery life download an app called DataSwitch by TomatoX.
Make sure to enable journaling too.
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the TW UI is just bad and I can't use the regular launcher.
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I thought the same thing when I first started using tw... If your taking about the launcher I won't argue. But the rest of tw is pretty good. Built in task manager that clears ram, the dialer is dope. Contacts list is very functional, U can swype right on a name to call our left to txt. Also easy to navigate if u have alot of contacts. Hold your finger on the right in portrait mode to jump through letters, than if, lets say you know alot of T's when u get to T, slide your finger to the left and you can sort by the second letter (feel free to say thanks). If your in to facebook the buddies now and whatever other things are built in to the tw launcher (though if u change launchers you lose those widgets) activities in contacts links your fb friends, the... Does... And u can... With... And so on and so on and so on... theres alot to learn that u wrong in a few days... I've had mine since release day and I just found out... Yesterday... long story short, u only get one chance to trade ur phone in. Use the whole 30 days before u decide
P.s. u can change your screen brightness by long pressing the notification bar and sliding left to right. But u gotta have auto brightness turned off (thanks ↓)
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Thanks for the info lol. Think I'll just use a rom and kernal
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who can give us a great 2.3 kernel?

not CM7,NOT miui,i just need a great 2.3 kernel! Just use for JVS/JVT and so on!
the Talon kernel is good ,but not great ,its color is not good enough,even use by voodoo control,and the battery life is a lit short.
i dont care about the GPS,i just want a more smooth kernel.
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I can give you two kernels,you can try them.
Explain:
1.GalaxianEE_JVS.tar is i9000's kernel,but you can try it ,just no sound,the other function is ok(not conside GPS).
2.lidroid kernel 1.6 is vibrant's kernel,you can try it,it's a good kernel,but just have 329 RAM.
3. you can use oldin to manage these two kernel. they can be used by 2.34 JVQ/JVS/JVT, just try!
my english is bad, i wish all of you can understand what i said.sorry
I'll ask Mr.Walter the leprechaun to make it next week.
Its called Talon
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Its called Talon
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Its good not great. Once GPS is implemented I'd agree.
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xriderx66 said:
I'll ask Mr.Walter the leprechaun to make it next week.
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thank you
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JediDru said:
Its good not great. Once GPS is implemented I'd agree.
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Excuse my french but **** gps never ever used
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I m on Simply Stock XXJVT running on Lidriod 1.7 JVT Kernel. It works great, except GPS.
I do not understand why making a kernel is so difficult. Can some one explain this please?
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I do not understand why making a kernel is so difficult. Can some one explain this please?
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1. Its a kernel from a firmware and base that was not meant for our phones.
2. No kernel is perfect, even if it was made by Samsung themselves.
3. Android kernels are Linux kernels, can only be compiled in Linux and sometimes Mac, never in Windows.
4. Kernel deving can sometimes be hard and frustrating, especially if it was ported from another device. Sometimes the drivers and modules don't work right when they are compiled, causing less than great battery life and some errors. It happens. Its just another side effect when dealing with ports from other phones.
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Thanks for the info. I m very happy to own a Galaxy S as it keeps getting updates but sad to own a Vibrant as Samsung/T-Mobile just forgot this device.

Dads vibrant is slow

Ok so my dad has a vibrant and hes been saying its been slow and wants me to make it faster. What would be the easiest way to do that for him
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Should of posted this in the q&a section lol
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falcons2 said:
Ok so my dad has a vibrant and hes been saying its been slow and wants me to make it faster. What would be the easiest way to do that for him
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Please give us a little more information. What rom is on the phone? Original 2.1 JFD Eclair?, KB5 Froyo?, some custom Rom?
He's on original 2.1 I rooted it for him but never did anything to yet
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falcons2 said:
He's on original 2.1 I rooted it for him but never did anything to yet
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Hmmm... Does he have a lot of apps on his phone? Perhaps apps running in the background are bogging down his phone.
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Hmmm... Does he have a lot of apps on his phone? Perhaps apps running in the background are bogging down his phone.
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No not many and he's always killing the apps. His main complaint is that when he open up messaging it takes a while to open up
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I think he would back up his apps, and move to a stable ROM offered by one if the dev here
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xriderx66 said:
I think he would back up his apps, and move to a stable ROM offered by one if the dev here
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Which rom would you recommend? Because I don't know anything about vibrant roms as I'm from the gs4g
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falcons2 said:
Which rom would you recommend? Because I don't know anything about vibrant roms as I'm from the gs4g
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To keep things closer to your dad's experience there's FishmanMod which is an update to a very popular Bionix -v 1.3.1 Rom. It will fly compared to stock but everything works and it won't be totally unfamiliar to the dad.
Here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441976
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To keep things closer to your dad's experience there's FishmanMod which is an update to a very popular Bionix -v 1.3.1 Rom. It will fly compared to stock but everything works and it won't be totally unfamiliar to the dad.
Here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441976
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Thanks I'm gonna have to show it to him and see if he likes how it looks before I flash it for him
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Thanks I'm gonna have to show it to him and see if he likes how it looks before I flash it for him
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be careful, the GS4g and Vibrant may look the same, but their flashing procedures are a bit different. read up and then do it.
Adding on to xriderx66, use this guide if you need a reference when backing up & flashing a custom rom to your dads phone... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
Since he's already rooted start from: "OKAY, I HAVE ROOT - NOW WHAT? BACKUP!!!"
If your dad is happy with the stock ROM (with the exception of the speed) then I would definitely suggest going with something like the fishman mod that is based on the stock 2.2 ROM. That'll make sure he still has all the stock apps and such. I used Bionix for a LONG time and was always really happy with it.
I'm gonna show him bionix and see what he says
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I suggest showing him Fish's version of Bionix for the mere reason that Fishman is supporting it daily, while Team Whiskey is no longer.
Fish is good at what he does. My name is Woodrube and I endorse this message.
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I suggest showing him Fish's version of Bionix for the mere reason that Fishman is supporting it daily, while Team Whiskey is no longer.
Fish is good at what he does. My name is Woodrube and I endorse this message.
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That's what I'm planning on showing him.
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Lol its been like a month and i still haven't flashed it for him but anyway can i get cwm on his phone without using a computer
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Lol its been like a month and i still haven't flashed it for him but anyway can i get cwm on his phone without using a computer
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Dl from manager from market then use it to install cwm
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Drjjones426 said:
Dl from manager from market then use it to install cwm
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That's what I did and it would goto install it and it said error could not install
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go here:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/605-guide-root-odin-clean-metamorph-swype-tricks-ninja-apps-everything/
make sure you read

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My buddy wants me to root his Droid 2 and flash a custom ROM for him. I do not own this phone so I do not know how to do this on his phone.
Best place to find tutorials for root and clockwork? All the stickies seem to be outdated.
Thanks in advance.
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This is how to root it. http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/0...roidx2-droidx-and-droid3-running-gingerbread/
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This is how to root it. http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/0...roidx2-droidx-and-droid3-running-gingerbread/
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What about clockwork?
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you have to use an app called droid 2 bootstrap
Albinoman said:
you have to use an app called droid 2 bootstrap
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Is that the only way to get recovery? That app cost $2.99.
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If you're on stock gingerbread I think so.
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If you're on stock gingerbread I think so.
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well that seems pretty stupid. haha, but ok.
Ya but its worth it
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eyeisdasteve said:
My buddy wants me to root his Droid 2 and flash a custom ROM for him. I do not own this phone so I do not know how to do this on his phone.
Best place to find tutorials for root and clockwork? All the stickies seem to be outdated.
Thanks in advance.
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make sure you install the motorolla drivers, then enable usb debugging and put on charge only mode, use motorolla one click root and it should auto root for you and restart 3 times, then download droid 2 bootstrap best bet is to pay for it but i think its on koush's site for free, then install any rom you want i suggest my miui defx for d2 or a cm7 rom hope that helps
Or you could flash my new AOKP build 28.
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Or you could flash my new AOKP build 28.
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is it stable? for a daily driver as thats not his phone so hes gonna want to put something stable on
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is it stable? for a daily driver as thats not his phone so hes gonna want to put something stable on
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Yea I definitely want something completely stable. Everything to work and maybe a custom kernel so i can change it to fit his needs. He said his battery sucks. So maybe undervolt..? He doesn't play games heavily or anything like that so that would be a good option.
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Yea I definitely want something completely stable. Everything to work and maybe a custom kernel so i can change it to fit his needs. He said his battery sucks. So maybe undervolt..? He doesn't play games heavily or anything like that so that would be a good option.
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Oh then defiantly go with MIUI or cm7. My builds orientation doesn't work yet. Sadly it isn't possible to install custom kernals.
Honestly, Galnet MIUI 2.2.10 has absolutely the best battery life I've seen for the D2. I've heard that one other--the name of which escapes me at the moment--is comparable on that, but Galnet and other versions of MIUI that I've used beat out CM7 on the battery front. I usually have about 60-70% charge left at the end of every day.
As far as everything else, CM7 and MIUI are both great, very customizable, and none of the crap bloatware from VZ.
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Oh then defiantly go with MIUI or cm7. My builds orientation doesn't work yet. Sadly it isn't possible to install custom kernals.
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No one can install custom kernels?
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no, locked bootloader
and why bootstrap is needed for cwm

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