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I have a friend over on the east coast that isnt following direction as well as one would hope and is a little scared about rooting his phone and getting it to be as good as my X is. I finally got it rooted for him but he is freaking out about using a clean nandroid backup i sent him and dumping it in the correct directory for nandroid backup and restore giving him a clean image of my phone...
I had assumed that this would have been the easiest method but it got me thinking.
Could i rename my nandroid back up folder the ending tree folder that holds the .android_secure.img, cache.img, data.img, nandroid.md5 and system.img ... like clockworkmod/backup/2010-11-25.05.05.13 could i just pop all those files into a .zip named whatever and direct him to clockwork recovery and flash zip from sd card?
Or could someone point me into a direction on how to accomplish that? I think i would like to also do it for my self and upload it to my dropbox account for later access or to share with friends.
I noticed when i opened like the latest rubix rom that it didnt contain any files similar to that so im curious if its possible.
Also one last question, while i have your technicle mind at attention..
Could someone answer me, in Titanium backup it gives you the option to create a update.zip, then it gives you two radio buttons one says titanium backup will be installed as user application and then System application.
I know that the whole create update.zip thing is for flashing it to the rom from recovery. But what is the diffrence bewteen those two options. What is best and what is the diffrence..
Thanks for letting me pick your Brains!
One drawback of giving him your nandroid backup is that it contains YOUR gmail account with your contacts, facebook account (if applicable), among all other sorts of your personal stuff. In my past experience, you can ADD a gmail account to the phone, but you cannot get rid of the primary/original account so he will have both on there. Other than that, it actually does work though (at least it did on the Droid 1).
Wipe your data and make a nandroid before you reboot and sign in. that way your accounts won't be tied to it
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Your friend - with all due respect if he's having that much trouble with something this simple I really don't think he should be screwing around with root access in the first place. If he has that little understanding of administrator-level access, why on earth does he even want root? He won't even know what to do with it.
Not trying to be harsh, just trying to understand.
Flash Nandroid - NO, don't do it! I'm sure it can be done, but not in the way you described.
Titanium Backup - system apps reside in /system/app as opposed to /data/app. The only real difference is that system apps will still be there after you do a factory reset.
If your going to let your friend flash a nandroid, then you need to remove your gmail and social applications. If you wipe data as mentioned above you'll lose all non-system apps...basically everything you've installed and set up, which is most likely what you're trying to give him. The only way I can think to make this work is to first create a backup for your use, then remove everything that requires you to log in with adb, then replace all of the apps you removed (extract the rom your running and look in system/app for them - data/app apps can be installed from the market). Reboot the phone to verify that all of your accounts are gone, create the new backup and send it to him. Then flash the backup you made for your use.
The easiest way to give him "your set up" would probably be to make a full backup with titanium (not an update.zip). Backup all user apps and system data. Go into the titanium folder on your sd card and delete all files except the .apk files that have anything to do with gmail or social apps. Have him flash the same rom, copy your titanium file to his sd card, and restore all apps and system data to his phone.
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I used titanium backup to backup the new Swipe before removing it. I went to restore it and there is a checkbox next to the item, instead of the other logo. Basically the restore feature is grayed out for most items I backed up? I went to the directory the backup uses and there is a compressed file for swipe. If I open it, I see some data, but no apk file.
Question 1st is how do I find the apk to restore this?
Question 2 is why can't I restore all backed up files via titanium (paid version)? Scares me to think I was safe using this product.
Use astro and hit the search button. Type swype with no spaces and search. You might find the apk that way.
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Well I just discovered something strange with most Apps backed up with titanium. If I click on a file that I backed up (say swipe from last update) and uninstalled via titanium, and I get a message that data was backed up, and but no apk present. Sure enough, if I click on the archived swipe file, I see a data file and folder and no apk. Why would titanium backup some files completely and partially with others?
Also, without doing a nand restore, which I really don't want to start from square one, how can I get the swipe apk from the last OTA? SwiftKey has been unreliable since their past two updates?
Thanks
Pull the APK from a stock rooted ROM's zip file.
TB usually won't backup /system apps because, y'know, they're in the non-writable system partition. Normally, they're still there, and normally, you don't mess with stuff in /system, nor should you copy stuff over from one ROM to another if it's a system app.
i have a great idea for an app to scan your titanium backup folder, and create an update.zip to restore all apps and data after a rom flash.
i have all the details worked out!
i know how to convert the tibu backups to useable restoreable data!
though its not hard.
this could easily be done through a script on pc or possibly through an app.
but i am just not a programmer, in either regard.
need experience with:
creating cwm 2 and 3 flashable zips (edify and scriptify)
possibly other scripting for editing install directory
unpacking tar zip and gz files
creating UI would be nice as well for whichever platform it ends up on pc or app
PM me for more details.
this would be a great tool!
As far as I know, each Titanium backup has 3 files - one bzip2 for the APK, one for the data, and a "properties" file, which containt the market link, app install location, backup date etc...
I think it is possible to write an extention to ClockworkMod/Amon-Ra for restoring Titanium backups. Don't count on me to do it, I don't have any experience with the Linux kernel/Android custom recoveries.
As for a desktop/dalvik application, it should be very simple to pack the backup into a flashable .zip, I'll try to do such an app soon.
Nvm ignore me...
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May this help? I'd really like such an app!
http://www.apps-builder.com/en/home
The paid version of the app will do this for you. Also let's you decide whether the. Zip is signed or not. Hope this helps.
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i have the paid version and that zip file that it creates only reinstalls titanium backup not all your apps.
so no it doesnt help. i already have the paid version, and understand the features in full.
Thats what my nvm ignore me was about... i thought that update.zip did the apps as well.
Anyway this would be awesome for people who flash a lot of roms
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i have the paid version and that zip file that it creates only reinstalls titanium backup not all your apps.
so no it doesnt help. i already have the paid version, and understand the features in full.
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Kick me while I'm down, I thought the Pro Version did that as well. The file it makes certainly looks big enough. I haven't taken a look at it. But my question is how is the update.zip, which I can't get to install, different from just reinstalling the .apks, which is how I get it working in the first place?
TRusselo said:
i have a great idea for an app to scan your titanium backup folder, and create an update.zip to restore all apps and data after a rom flash.
i have all the details worked out!
i know how to convert the tibu backups to useable restoreable data!
though its not hard.
this could easily be done through a script on pc or possibly through an app.
but i am just not a programmer, in either regard.
need experience with:
creating cwm 2 and 3 flashable zips (edify and scriptify)
possibly other scripting for editing install directory
unpacking tar zip and gz files
creating UI would be nice as well for whichever platform it ends up on pc or app
PM me for more details.
this would be a great tool!
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Good idea but I think you will run into problems if you restore from recovery... I don't think app ID's (and therefore permissions) will be correct and I don't think the apps will re-link to the market (if the id's aren't correct).
Running the fix permissions script after the restore might solve this.
But, other than selective restore, what benefit would this method have over say simply restoring the /data partition part of your nandroid backup?
Nevertheless, if you need help with updater-scripts send me a PM. If my concerns are unfounded then this is a worthwhile idea.
Okay, this is the 2nd time this has happened.....my phone.apk has disappeared from my phone, EC09.
Last time I just blew everything up and started over. This time I refuse to do that. I'm using Dialer One, so at the moment, things are not urgent. But I do want my touchwiz dialer back.
I've backed up the app with Titanium Backup on a previous nandroid backup, and it will not restore the phone app on my current ROM. I've also tried using ADB and the install command, and I get a "install parse failed no certificates" error message.
Anyone have a way to solve this problem for me?
UPDATE: I found a valid backup from TiBu that worked for me and another user. Download this zip, unzip the files into your Titanium Backup folder on your SD card. Scroll through the apps/backups in TiBu until you find [Voicemail] Dialer 2.2.2, restore app+data. Should be good to go!
Download Dialer Tab Titanium Backup files
This seems to be a common thing happening on this phone. This also happened to me when i was running complete stock no root a while back and I had to do a hard reset to get it back. I don't know what the apks issue is but its happening to a lot of people and so far the only way to get it back that I know of is to do a hard reset.
I also lost dialer on EC09 awhile back, gave up trying to fix. Just have also just been using Dialer 1. Odd thing with it though is I had to dial 911 and it wouldn't let me, every time inputted numbers it would bring up my contacts and wouldn't let me dial it.
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Well I guess it's mildly comforting to know I'm not alone with this problem. I know there must be a way to get the dialer back without a hard reset. I just got tired/overwhelmed of researching exactly how Android handles apk's and how ADB works.
I have the apk. I just haven't been able to get it on my phone properly.
Well, the problem has been solved.
Apparently the backup I made of the phone app through Titanium Backup was corrupt. I had an entire backup of my SD card on my hard drive and I tried restoring the phone app from that. Titanium Backup restored it fine.
I couldn't understand why TiBu would be unable to restore an app IT backed up! Apparently it wasn't unable to!
If anyone wants the three files created by the backup, I can zip them up and post them.
spearoid said:
Well, the problem has been solved.
Apparently the backup I made of the phone app through Titanium Backup was corrupt. I had an entire backup of my SD card on my hard drive and I tried restoring the phone app from that. Titanium Backup restored it fine.
I couldn't understand why TiBu would be unable to restore an app IT backed up! Apparently it wasn't unable to!
If anyone wants the three files created by the backup, I can zip them up and post them.
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If not to much trouble I would like a copy of them, as my Tibu won't restore either and tried another method offered here somewhere without success and just gave up.
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If not to much trouble I would like a copy of them, as my Tibu won't restore either and tried another method offered here somewhere without success and just gave up.
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I'm pretty sure I should post this link elsewhere, but here you go!
Phone 2.2.2 backup up with TiBu
Nevermind I see it's resolved.
Okay since this is zip I believe it just gets installed through recovery, am I right. So when I try it just hangs at installing, had to pull battery to restart phone.
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I'm sorry for not explaining things with the link. That is the three files that Titanium Backup creates when backing up an app. I zipped them into one file. Unzip them into your Titanium Backup folder on your SD card, and restore the phone app through Titanium Backup.
Well I give up, just going to stick with Dialer 1. Took zip, extracted and moved to Tibu backup folder, went into Tibu, didn't show up in apps list went to batch and reinstalled from batch mode and still nada. Tibu shows as installed but not there. Under application settings it shows 0.00 for file size, that can't be right, so guessing did not install.
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fix!
No need for any flashing!!!
Just go into a file explorer (like root explorer) and go into system/app/ and look for the app the has disappeared and hold it down, a menu will pop up and go down to permissions.
there will be 3 columns. The first one should have all 3 boxes checked, the second column should only have the top box checked, and the last column should have all boxes UNCHECKED.
After you do that press ok and there should be a pop up saying that permissions were changed!
And that's it! Your app should be back! If not, try installing it after u change the permissions by pressing down on the app until u get a pop up and press open with, then pick apk handler, then just install, and it should work!
I'm new to the forums, so I hope this is helpful!
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No need for any flashing!!!
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No one has suggested or recommended flashing in this thread, to my knowledge.
Killyjoy's suggestion may very well work, but the file you downloaded from me might not have been the right one.
I have two trios of files that came from Titanium Backup when I was trying to restore the phone app. One trio has the word "phone" in it...and that's what you downloaded from me the first time, the other trio has the word "dialer" in it, and that is here
My initial instructions should still apply. Unzip these three files into your Titanium Backup folder of your SD card. Look in TiBu for "[Voicemail] Dialer"
You should see that there is a backup from 4/06/12. If the app shows as installed on your phone, I'd uninstall it (MAKE SURE you see that TiBu recognizes a backup exists first) and then restore the app+data from the backup.
That's how I got back up and running......if you want to give the TiBu method one more go.
spearoid said:
No one has suggested or recommended flashing in this thread, to my knowledge.
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Sorry, I just browsed thru the comments real quick and thought I saw the word flashing in there lol. But this way definitely works, I lost my phone apk. 2 times after installing tb101 mod and I got it back both times.
I figured I'd post some screencaps so you guys could maybe understand what I was saying a little bit better.
Hope they help!
killjoy1179 said:
No need for any flashing!!!
Just go into a file explorer (like root explorer) and go into system/app/ and look for the app the has disappeared and hold it down, a menu will pop up and go down to permissions.
there will be 3 columns. The first one should have all 3 boxes checked, the second column should only have the top box checked, and the last column should have all boxes UNCHECKED.
After you do that press ok and there should be a pop up saying that permissions were changed!
And that's it! Your app should be back! If not, try installing it after u change the permissions by pressing down on the app until u get a pop up and press open with, then pick apk handler, then just install, and it should work!
I'm new to the forums, so I hope this is helpful!
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Checked permissions they were right, used apk installer but get message saying not installed.
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spearoid said:
No one has suggested or recommended flashing in this thread, to my knowledge.
Killyjoy's suggestion may very well work, but the file you downloaded from me might not have been the right one.
I have two trios of files that came from Titanium Backup when I was trying to restore the phone app. One trio has the word "phone" in it...and that's what you downloaded from me the first time, the other trio has the word "dialer" in it, and that is here
My initial instructions should still apply. Unzip these three files into your Titanium Backup folder of your SD card. Look in TiBu for "[Voicemail] Dialer"
You should see that there is a backup from 4/06/12. If the app shows as installed on your phone, I'd uninstall it (MAKE SURE you see that TiBu recognizes a backup exists first) and then restore the app+data from the backup.
That's how I got back up and running......if you want to give the TiBu method one more go.
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This one worked, stock phone finally back, thanks for zips and help.
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Excellent! I'll update the OP
Weird...I've tried the whole process using root explorer and its not working for me either...I know it can be done, so I'm going to keep working on it.
killjoy1179 said:
Weird...I've tried the whole process using root explorer and its not working for me either...I know it can be done, so I'm going to keep working on it.
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If using Tibu to reinstall back up, I had to verify back up was there then uninstall in TiBu and then reinstall.
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Ok so I think I've got it figured out.
You delete the app that's missing out of the system
/app folder.
Copy and paste the new app into the system/app folder.
And then check the permissions and then reboot and it should be there.
Note: the app that your replacing needs to be from the Same ROM. So just download the rom your using and extract the app and go from there.
So next time your app goes missing, try this method and let me know if it works.
Hi everyone, I am trying to figure out how I can back up my titanium back up APK so that if I ever want to flash a rom and don't have access to my data connection (it happens alot...especially at work and where I live) I can just install the titanium backup apk and then pull my app backups from a previous backup...can someone help me with that? Thanks so much
Dirtylarry11 said:
Hi everyone, I am trying to figure out how I can back up my titanium back up APK so that if I ever want to flash a rom and don't have access to my data connection (it happens alot...especially at work and where I live) I can just install the titanium backup apk and then pull my app backups from a previous backup...can someone help me with that? Thanks so much
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On TB, Click menu button and there is backup option under the batch action. Just choose what you need.
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On TB, Click menu button and there is backup option under the batch action. Just choose what you need.
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ok, that I figured out, but lets say I install a new rom...where do I go to get the Titanium backup APK? so I can install it, and then restore my backups to the new rom? Thanks so much!!!
With a root explorer go to data/app and copy TB app somewhere on your phone, so next time you can just install it ?
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Dirtylarry11 said:
ok, that I figured out, but lets say I install a new rom...where do I go to get the Titanium backup APK? so I can install it, and then restore my backups to the new rom? Thanks so much!!!
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Use root browser. Go to data/app. Find the TB apk and copy it to external sd
Rosli59564 said:
Use root browser. Go to data/app. Find the TB apk and copy it to external sd
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I just changed my mind and told him the same.
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Dirtylarry11 said:
ok, that I figured out, but lets say I install a new rom...where do I go to get the Titanium backup APK? so I can install it, and then restore my backups to the new rom? Thanks so much!!!
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Yes just use dejan sathanas suggestion. Btw if you installed new rom with no wipe, your internal sd card will not be wiped. You can save TB backup apk and after you finished installing new rom you can install TB using samsung file manager.
To save TB backup apk. Go to ES filemanager, click menu and find App manager under tool. Find Titanium backup, long press and select backup button. The backup app should be in sdcard/backup directory.
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Thanks People...So easy...I just wasn't sure...that will save me tons of time as well for future rom installations.
I've always done it via TBU>main menu>special features >create update. zip
Flash with new ROM, job done