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Eris Recover Missing?

OK so I downloaded the original 2.1 leak.
It changed the boot loader (I believe that's the reason after the 2.1 update why people weren't able to rollback to 1.5, yes I know 2.1 rooted rom's can roll back now) and then installed 2.1 OTA "official"... guess it was the second attempt at 2.1 since VZW canned the first test ROM.
Anyway... so now I am running the latest OTA non-root ROM and if I hit power + volume up to enter recovery mode (or install other ROMs like EvilEris1.1.zip, Legend.zip) I get an Exclamation point.
Hitting Power and Volume down gets me into hboot where I could install the PB00IMG.zip (it checks for a few other names like this as well).
Is there anyway to restore that recovery functionality?
Also, which I am assuming because I'm running non-root ROM, when trying to use adb I cannot run "adb root", "adb mount", or "adb shell" and remount /system as rw. Complains can't do this because it's official rom?
Any help here getting me to the point that I can recover if necessary, install EvilEris, Legend, etc for testing purposes, even recover to rollback and start all over... would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Chris

nemish13 said:
OK so I downloaded the original 2.1 leak.
It changed the boot loader (I believe that's the reason after the 2.1 update why people weren't able to rollback to 1.5, yes I know 2.1 rooted rom's can roll back now) and then installed 2.1 OTA "official"... guess it was the second attempt at 2.1 since VZW canned the first test ROM.
Anyway... so now I am running the latest OTA non-root ROM and if I hit power + volume up to enter recovery mode (or install other ROMs like EvilEris1.1.zip, Legend.zip) I get an Exclamation point.
Hitting Power and Volume down gets me into hboot where I could install the PB00IMG.zip (it checks for a few other names like this as well).
Is there anyway to restore that recovery functionality?
Also, which I am assuming because I'm running non-root ROM, when trying to use adb I cannot run "adb root", "adb mount", or "adb shell" and remount /system as rw. Complains can't do this because it's official rom?
Any help here getting me to the point that I can recover if necessary, install EvilEris, Legend, etc for testing purposes, even recover to rollback and start all over... would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Chris
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it sounds like you installed an official non root image over root, replacing everything including the recovery img. We have no current way of rooting your phone.

Nope,
As I said I have downloaded and installed the following
Beginning of March --
HTC 2.1 Leak Rom
Verizon test rom, REJECTED. Do not Install if you want root.
Rom: http://www.sendspace.com/file/frqze0
March 30 Installed --
HTC 2.1 Release Candidate (AKA OTA) Leak Rom
Verizon test rom, possible OTA leak. Do not Install if you want root.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RHNAWUR0
Never downloaded or installed any other ROM. Never installed a root ROM.

nemish13 said:
Nope,
As I said I have downloaded and installed the following
Beginning of March --
HTC 2.1 Leak Rom
Verizon test rom, REJECTED. Do not Install if you want root.
Rom: http://www.sendspace.com/file/frqze0
March 30 Installed --
HTC 2.1 Release Candidate (AKA OTA) Leak Rom
Verizon test rom, possible OTA leak. Do not Install if you want root.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RHNAWUR0
Never downloaded or installed any other ROM. Never installed a root ROM.
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sorry dude

well, you are not going to be able to install other roms since you do not have root. i believe you should be able to get into recovery, but only able to do basic functions such as data/wipe. you wont be able to install new roms via recovery. the only real function you will have is to go into hboot and flash the current build version or a higher build version of the pb00img.zip file.
like jcase said, there is no way to root your phone, unless you have the official build version 1.5.

ECLIPS3 said:
well, you are not going to be able to install other roms since you do not have root. i believe you should be able to get into recovery, but only able to do basic functions such as data/wipe. you wont be able to install new roms via recovery. the only real function you will have is to go into hboot and flash the current build version or a higher build version of the pb00img.zip file.
like jcase said, there is no way to root your phone, unless you have the official build version 1.5.
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I can do hboot (Power + Volume Down) but I can't do recovery at all (Power + Volume Up). Just get Exclamation Point.
So one of these Verizon Test Roms erased the "stock" recovery mode as it is no longer there and there is no way I can figure out how to restore that, forget a modified recovery.

just a question , what if someone backed up the files off the card to their computer or somewhere? i was just wondering cuz a lot i have been readin , people have downloaded the wrong file and lost root .if they have it backed up ,couldnt they just replace the files on the card with the ones saved and be able to do a recovery? i dont know much about how this works so dont rip me to bad lol just asking

HTC?!?!?!?
So someone from HTC needs to post a signed "su enabled" ROM...
Hello? HTC employees... help here like you did for the 1.5 "su enabled" leak that got us root... PLEASE!!!

nemish13 said:
So someone from HTC needs to post a signed "su enabled" ROM...
Hello? HTC employees... help here like you did for the 1.5 "su enabled" leak that got us root... PLEASE!!!
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Doubtful it will happen for the eris again.

jcase said:
Doubtful it will happen for the eris again.
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yeah but we can hope here... someone working for HTC has to be nice enough to take the OTA, enable root, sign it (most important) and post it...
I can't think people at HTC wouldn't share if they had the ability to help the community out now... LOL

More than likely only a hand full of people have the ability to sign the roms. We didn't get a release rom with root, we got a engineering rom.
Odds are in the favor or a root exploit, go see what Paul O'Brian has done with the HTD Desire and Legend . Hopefully that can help us.

Main Version Is Older! Update Fail! Message

Hi,
Thanks in advance for anyone who tries to help me.
A few weeks ago I tried to gain root access to HTC Eris. I followed the prereq and part one of the guide but stopped there. Rebooted my phone, checked the version (2.1) and went about reinstalling apps and such.
Now I want to install a different ROM so I went back and tried to start from the beginning and put PB00IMG.zip on my phone, went to hboot, let run but then I get the message "Main Version is older! Update Fail! Do you want to reboot device?"
So when I move onto III in the walk through, I get an error on the command
adb push flash_image /system/bin
It would seem like I've lost root right? Is there anyway I can check to see if I accidentally installed the leak w/o root?
Thanks,
Nate

Easy way is to do
adb shell
if the prompt is
$
your likely on leak
if the prompt is
#
your on root.
Once your on root, flash recovery.

I am anticipating the next question, so here is your answer. If you did indeed root your phone, you should have loaded a recovery image as jcase mentioned.
First, load the new ROM onto the root of your sd card. Next, power off your phone. Then, hold down the vol up button and turn on your phone. It should boot into the recovery console. From here to load another ROM, you need to perform a wipe and then load your new ROM by flashing. You should see a Wipe and Flash from Zip menu option in recovery.
In the Wipe menu, choose the first two options in order (factory reset and cache). Wait for each to complete. Next, pressing vol down should get you back to the main menu. From here choose Flash from Zip and then select the ROM zip file you loaded onto your sd card and wait for the update to complete. Last, reboot your phone from the menu.

jcase said:
Easy way is to do
adb shell
if the prompt is
$
your likely on leak
if the prompt is
#
your on root.
Once your on root, flash recovery.
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$
When you say "likely" you pretty much mean "sorry but you're non-rooted and I don't want to be the one to tell you" ?

xnatex21 said:
$
When you say "likely" you pretty much mean "sorry but you're non-rooted and I don't want to be the one to tell you" ?
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You have 2.1 from the OTA, or on phone at purchase or from an image you flashed?

try su
xnatex21 said:
$
When you say "likely" you pretty much mean "sorry but you're non-rooted and I don't want to be the one to tell you" ?
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adb shell
$ su
If you still have a $ then you most "likely" loaded a leak rather then root. If you get a # then you are in luck.
I don't remember if the the leak that included su had adb set to root by default.
good luck.

jcase said:
You have 2.1 from the OTA, or on phone at purchase or from an image you flashed?
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I followed a guide a few weeks ago that must have been for the leaked version of 2.1.
thisismyanonymousaccount said:
adb shell
$ su
If you still have a $ then you most "likely" loaded a leak rather then root. If you get a # then you are in luck.
I don't remember if the the leak that included su had adb set to root by default.
good luck.
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I get
su: permission denied
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I guess that means my phone I'm stuck with it...FML!

xnatex21 said:
I guess that means my phone I'm stuck with it...FML!
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Yes, sadly you are now stuck with the Leak.
Stay tuned as the devs are still working on it.

g00gl3 said:
Yes, sadly you are now stuck with the Leak.
Stay tuned as the devs are still working on it.
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Does anyone know what HTC says about all of this? Can I send the phone back to them and have them "restore" the phone to factory settings?

xnatex21 said:
Does anyone know what HTC says about all of this? Can I send the phone back to them and have them "restore" the phone to factory settings?
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Technically, modifying your device would void warranties. Even if they could "restore" the device, it would still have the newer bootloader that is causing the rooting issue. Some people have "lost" or "broken" the device bad enough that they could get a replacement from Verizon. However, there is mixed results as to what bootloader the refurbished devices come back with.

I posted before about the safety of re-rooting my eris from 1.5 to a rooted 2.2 rom, and due to lack of responses on any forums over the web, I jumped the gun today. First off my Eris after un-rooting it, wouldn't take the OTA update for 2.1, it downloaded and verified that, but after it rebooted, it was still at 1.5 saying no new updates are available. I cannot download the eris 1 click root app as it's only for 2.1 I'm assuming because it says it's not compatible with 1.5 firmware when I download it. I tried to follow this guide [Walkthrough] From stock (1.5) to rooted 2.1 (update - new link) - xda-developers and when I installed the PB00IMG.zip it downloaded but failed to flash and the screen read "Main version is older". I tried this guide All-In-One Auto-Root Script - Page 4 - xda-developers and when it says it's flashing the root image, it goes straight to a screen with only two options "recovery" something and "fastboot". None of which are listed as options in the guides. I am just trying to root my 1.5 eris and flash the KaosFroyo V3 eris rom with Amon Ra's recovery image. Thanks if anyone can help my problem, or shed light on the situation! Sorry if there's been a fix to this problem already stated, I've desperately been browsing many forums and hundreds of replies to no avail. Thanks again.

It looks to me like you got a pretty reasonable answer to the same question over on Android Forums
bftb0

Um, I dont think the OTA affects root ability

well I did the OTA.... and ive rooted it following toasts tut... i got it to boot in recover mode... and im doing a NAND backup... oh just finished actually... i swear im not lying lol..
i finished the NAND backup and did a system reebot within the recovery... now let me get this straight tho... within the recovery is where I would flash a new rom yes? if I were to power off the Evo, root is gone right, this is only like a softspl ?
crap...EDIT:
um crap... nvm apparently i didnt update...
i swear I downloaded, installed, restarted the phone to allow install... but it shows software number 1.32.651.1.
maybe because I did a factory reset? then that would mean that this update is rather a patch (ie like a cab fix)??
or did the update not apply?

Ya, I had to download and install the update twice. There is no way root is worth the SD card bug, so until there is root for the patched ROM, no root for me.

The thing is right now we have ghetto root. The other devs have specifically said the update conflicted with root. Best not to install it if you care about it.

Aridon said:
The thing is right now we have ghetto root. The other devs have specifically said the update conflicted with root. Best not to install it if you care about it.
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I don't. Not gonna bother rooting until after the official 2.2 ROM releases in August or so.

new update can't root now.

i run unrevoked and nothing happens. this a new problem with the new update? this is my replacement phone anwaysy so.
anyone know anyways to root? i can't downgrade to old version. please help..

if you have s-off you just need to flash a custom recovery.
if you don't then i have no idea if the updated rom is rootable.
that would have been something to look for before upgrading
Good luck!

Having custom recovery is not the same as rooting (Superuser acess). Unfortunately, at the moment, Unrevoked won't work on the new OTA and if you install SU pack after the OTA it will just hang during boot up and you'll be in reboot hell. You can have Clockwork with the new OTA, just not root access.

downgrading to stock then s-off and upgrading work?
update. i tried downloading the super back to stock thread and the hboot says the file is older and i can't by pass it.. so hmm

I am in the same boat. Just got the phone and the f-ing salesman decided to install the OTA for me while he was setting it up. So do I return this thing in the hopes of getting one without the OTA or is it likely it will be rooted?

guessing no ones able to do anything with the new update to reroot yet huh... any manual way to actually do root or downgrade to where the hboot doesn't recognize it as a older version?

dadsterflip said:
guessing no ones able to do anything with the new update to reroot yet huh... any manual way to actually do root or downgrade to where the hboot doesn't recognize it as a older version?
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Nope, can't downgrade...I'm out of ideas. Pretty pissed off actually to the point where I'm ready to take it back and get one that doesn't have the god damn OTA applied. I HATE owning devices that I don't really own.

i rooted with unrevoked. it will stay waiting on root or something then you stop kill the program after phone is booted up.
imma be lazy and let you do the work but...
1. use unrevoked (not forever) http://downloads.unrevoked.com/recovery/3.21/reflash_package.exe
2. wait for it to say waiting for root and phone is restarted, then exit unrevoked.
3. place clockwork mod on sd card as pb31img.zip http://downloads.unrevoked.com/forever/recovery/clockworkmod/PB31IMG.ZIP
4. go into recovery(volume down + power button) and let it detect pb31img and let it install
5. then use clockwork mod to install superuser apk manually http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6408470/su-releases/su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip
and yes this works, because i done it to 3 phones already
and yes this isnt hard...think outside of the box

I seem to have a problem. I was following the Bob Denny procedure to apply the OTA. Everything was going good until I got to the second step of booting into HBoot and reapplying the Clockwork recovery again. I cannot get into the Recover option in HBoot, it gets me stuck with the triangle over the phone image. I can boot normally and the phone is working but no root. In addition if I plug the usb cable into the phone, it charges but will not allow me to connect the phone as a disk drive, as well as the USB Debugging option is not there. I went to settings and tried the Connect To PC option but it FCs on me. The OTA part of this was successful (if you want to call it that). Any ideas on how to get this rooted again? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Cary

caleris said:
I seem to have a problem. I was following the Bob Denny procedure to apply the OTA. Everything was going good until I got to the second step of booting into HBoot and reapplying the Clockwork recovery again. I cannot get into the Recover option in HBoot, it gets me stuck with the triangle over the phone image. I can boot normally and the phone is working but no root. In addition if I plug the usb cable into the phone, it charges but will not allow me to connect the phone as a disk drive, as well as the USB Debugging option is not there. I went to settings and tried the Connect To PC option but it FCs on me. The OTA part of this was successful (if you want to call it that). Any ideas on how to get this rooted again? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Cary
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press Volume Up + Power I think when you see the triangle

magneticzero said:
i rooted with unrevoked. it will stay waiting on root or something then you stop kill the program after phone is booted up.
imma be lazy and let you do the work but...
1. use unrevoked (not forever) http://downloads.unrevoked.com/recovery/3.21/reflash_package.exe
2. wait for it to say waiting for root and phone is restarted, then exit unrevoked.
3. place clockwork mod on sd card as pb31img.zip http://downloads.unrevoked.com/forever/recovery/clockworkmod/PB31IMG.ZIP
4. go into recovery(volume down + power button) and let it detect pb31img and let it install
5. then use clockwork mod to install superuser apk manually http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6408470/su-releases/su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip
and yes this works, because i done it to 3 phones already
and yes this isnt hard...think outside of the box
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But???????????? This will only work if you are already s-off, correct?

blackwolf77 said:
But???????????? This will only work if you are already s-off, correct?
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if you have clockwork mod installed with S-On and updated the ota already, you can flash unrevoked forever through clockwork recovery... that will take S-Off to off. I was messing around earlier and did that..

I am not sure how you got clockwork installed. Everytime I try it recognizes the PB31IMG and then just skips over it. It never asks about installing it.

The file name has to be PB31IMG.ZIP right? Also the LCD works different right?
SLCD PB31IMG.ZIP
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Would the old downgrade and root process work? I upgraded my stock INC to 2.2 before Unrevoked worked on it. I went through a fairly painless, albeit time-consuming, process of downgrading to 2.1, rooting, and then installing 2.2.
I would think the process could be utilized here, the only difference being specific files used. One may even be able to follow the process as is. The end result would be S-OFF, which would allow you to do whatever you wanted (upgrade to 2.2 + recent OTA, install custom ROM, etc)
If anyone gets this to work, please let everyone know.

Nitrogenus said:
Would the old downgrade and root process work? I upgraded my stock INC to 2.2 before Unrevoked worked on it. I went through a fairly painless, albeit time-consuming, process of downgrading to 2.1, rooting, and then installing 2.2.
I would think the process could be utilized here, the only difference being specific files used. One may even be able to follow the process as is. The end result would be S-OFF, which would allow you to do whatever you wanted (upgrade to 2.2 + recent OTA, install custom ROM, etc)
If anyone gets this to work, please let everyone know.
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in for answer

tried it out, didn't work. the su trick with rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin does not work.

how to see page 3

Standing by!!!!! Will it work with s-on?

It shouldn't matter s-on or off. I have the SLCD screen don't know if it will make a difference. Just FYI
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[info] new ota 6.2.2/6.3 update from amazon and how to prevent

hallo guys
just saw that amazon is pushing the next OTA - 6.2.2
this time i could again verify this method to prevent the OTA:
i deleted /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip - watched the update downloading to the cache folder but did not install - after a reboot the update file was disappeared from the cache folder - i was registered at amazon all the time - and i'm still on 6.2.1
this worked for me - no guarantee
update: worked with 6.3 again !

I assumed the file needs to be permanently removed based your post, but I renamed them to keep them around (I am glad I did)
I did what you recommended and then I rebooted (renamed instead). Once I rebooted though, GMail would crash everytime I tried to use it and the Market said it could not connect. Once I put those files back and reboooted they worked again. So any other ideas would be appreciated.

... but I renamed them to keep them around ...
Once I put those files back and reboooted they worked again
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yes - as i wrote - i deleted otacerts.zip (only this one) from /system/etc/security/ (renamed and moved to sdcard)
i'm using the android market without any problems
sorry had a typo with the filename !

I only see cacerts.bks and otacerts.zip. Which did you delete?

sorry it is a typo - thank you !!!
it is otacerts.zip !!!
will correct the post - again thanks !

Anyone have any details about the update? What's new?

i think it's too new for detailed information and don't know cause it did not install
but i'm shure detailed information will be availabe in the next days
as well as a pure update version as it was with 6.2.1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1407852

I can't delete the file. I have ES File explorer with su privileges... Voodoo is set so I am rooted... I have read/write checked in settings. Is there something I'm missing?
EDIT: Never mind, I just got it. Sorry! Hopefully this works. Has anybody done this and had it update on them?

DalekCaan said:
I can't delete the file. I have ES File explorer with su privileges... Voodoo is set so I am rooted... I have read/write checked in settings. Is there something I'm missing?
EDIT: Never mind, I just got it. Sorry! Hopefully this works. Has anybody done this and had it update on them?
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don't know - sorry - but for me it's the second update i survived

Tried this, will be cheering/complaining loudly, depending on how it goes
Probably a silly question, but I suppose if we get the OTA that knocks out recovery as well?
Edit: Perhaps a sillier question, but does having TWRP prevent the OTA anyway? Usually the OTA is flashed via stock recovery, no?

It should wipe everything.
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podspi said:
Tried this, will be cheering/complaining loudly, depending on how it goes
Probably a silly question, but I suppose if we get the OTA that knocks out recovery as well?
Edit: Perhaps a sillier question, but does having TWRP prevent the OTA anyway? Usually the OTA is flashed via stock recovery, no?
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The OTA updates thus far typically overwrite the filesystem, so yes it would knock out recovery. You can use a "patched" ROM that will not touch the partition the recovery data is on.
TWRP does not stop OTA amazon updates if you are running the stock amazon ROM, as it operates at a level outside of the operating system. However, you can use TWRP to load an alternate operating system aka ROM, such as CM7 which would not be subject to amazon's OTA updates.

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Anyone have any details about the update? What's new?
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One thing I've noticed is that it mounts a lot faster when attached to my PC via USB. On 6.2.1, it mounted in about 10 seconds. Now it does it in less than 2.

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TWRP does not stop OTA amazon updates if you are running the stock amazon ROM, as it operates at a level outside of the operating system. However, you can use TWRP to load an alternate operating system aka ROM, such as CM7 which would not be subject to amazon's OTA updates.
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Thanks for this. Exactly what I was looking for (I'm fairly new to rooting).
Sent from my Kindle Fire using xda premium

Just wanted to say that I tried this, and as far as I can tell it worked like a charm. I even tempted fate by hitting 'Sync', but my Kindle refused to update (it wouldn't even attempt to download the update from device settings).
I just flashed the pre-rooted 6.2.2 update and deleted otacerts.zip, so here is hoping they didn't change something to make this not work...

i'm glad that it is working for you too ...

I just wanted to add that I have been blocking the OTA update using Droid Wall. Still running very happy on 6.2.1.
The only down side to this method is having to set permissions initially then updating Droid Wall as I install apps.

Meh. I'm not sweating this update much.
I've still got the Market, still have Swype... Sooooo far as I can tell the only thing I lost is Google Currents, which I wasn't finding much useful since the KF doesn't seem to want to let it sync while I'm not around.
Sooooo sooner or later I'll get the Burrito running again, but I'm in no rush.

FIREMOD replaces BURRITOROOT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21595398&postcount=105

as i am fairly familiar with the rooting process I am okay with amazon pushing update OTA, but some of my friends are complaining and I have to help them root their devices again after OTA update. So if this OTACERTS.ZIP deletion actually works (without other consequences) then I will surely recommend this to my friends