With Bootstrap for the X is there any reason to use Rom manager? I know bootstrap does backup/restore via the recovery menu. I wasn't for sure if there was any reason we would need to install Rom manager also? I have read of some people installing stuff through Rom manager is that the only reason? New to the X and wanting to figure out what I can.
You don't need rom manager. it is just a perk. I always do my installations through bootstrap recovery. I am just crazy like that.
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I have downloaded both of these? The only difference I see is rom manager allows you to download roms, backup, restore, etc, from within the android OS.
Is that the only difference and they are essentially the same thing?
You need the bootstrap recovery to boot into Koush's recovery on the DX. You can't get there from the Rom Manager alone. You may be able to boot into Koush's recovery from Rom Manager if you have the bootstrap recovery installed, but you definitely need the bootstrap recover installed.
akanealw said:
You need the bootstrap recovery to boot into Koush's recovery on the DX. You can't get there from the Rom Manager alone. You may be able to boot into Koush's recovery from Rom Manager if you have the bootstrap recovery installed, but you definitely need the bootstrap recover installed.
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Its this really true?? Cause i remember i use to have the rom manager only and i could install roms themes etc...i am saying i rememner cause right now i am using a droid 2 no rooted everyyhing stock i am waiting for mg replacement my dear droid x....
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denpad2010 said:
Its this really true?? Cause i remember i use to have the rom manager only and i could install roms themes etc...i am saying i rememner cause right now i am using a droid 2 no rooted everyyhing stock i am waiting for mg replacement my dear droid x....
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All I use is Koush's DroidX recovery NEVER had a issue.To me a ROM Manager is a duplication of efforts to a point.
Koush's tool is a must have ....
On my X, if I want to use Rom Manager to backup, restore, install a new Rom, I need to use the DroidX Bootstrap to apply the bootstrap, then Rom Manager can do it's thing
zanix said:
On my X, if I want to use Rom Manager to backup, restore, install a new Rom, I need to use the DroidX Bootstrap to apply the bootstrap, then Rom Manager can do it's thing
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Yes u right o need both i was wrong...
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I'm trying to make a nandroid backup so I can mess with my droid 2 but having issues...
The phone is rooted.
Have Installed: Rom Manager and Droid 2 Bootstrapper - both 'green' in superuser permissions.
When I try to boot into recovery mode using Rom Manager (trying to make a backup) or the D2 Bootstrapper the phone just boots up as it normally would. I can get into the default recovery mode by using the 'X' and 'PWR' key combo but that's not what I need.
Have tried renaming these files as suggested here in another thread and reflashing clockworkmod but that didn't work.
EDIT: can't link so these are the two files:
/system/etc/install-recovery.sh
/system/recovery-from-boot.p
Any ideas?
Meh... nvm - I figured it out.
Help!
Hey, my friend has the SAME EXACT issue. what did you do to fix it?
Everyone says to reinstall clockwork, but that doesn't fix it.
sonok said:
Hey, my friend has the SAME EXACT issue. what did you do to fix it?
Everyone says to reinstall clockwork, but that doesn't fix it.
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I've never used ROM manager because koush's D2 bootstrap does everything you need. But if you don't get clockwork from the application make sure you are properly rooted and you press "bootstrap recovery" and get the "success" box before you press "reboot recovery".
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I've never used ROM manager because koush's D2 bootstrap does everything you need. But if you don't get clockwork from the application make sure you are properly rooted and you press "bootstrap recovery" and get the "success" box before you press "reboot recovery".
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My friend is using Rom manager. He installed CWM via rom manager. Do you think it is safe for him to get "Koush's D2 bootstrap" and re-install CWM that way? Will that break anything?
PS: I use Amon_Ra's recovery on my nexus one. I do all my installations via ADB but he is not comfortable using ADB. I'm just trying to get him into a stable custom recovery because ever since he installed clockwork (which is not working) he says the phone is really slow.
sonok said:
My friend is using Rom manager. He installed CWM via rom manager. Do you think it is safe for him to get "Koush's D2 bootstrap" and re-install CWM that way? Will that break anything?
PS: I use Amon_Ra's recovery on my nexus one. I do all my installations via ADB but he is not comfortable using ADB. I'm just trying to get him into a stable custom recovery because ever since he installed clockwork (which is not working) he says the phone is really slow.
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I don't know installing koush's bootstrap will do but the D2 has to be bootstrapped because it's locked down and normal Clockwork Mod won't work because of it. If it doesn't work and his phone isn't working he can just SBF with the 2.3.2 version (he probably has the update already) he can do it in linux or windows (linux is easier) and it will put him back to stock so he can install koush's bootstrap from the market after re-rooting it.
If he want's he can back up his contacts and applications with google and data with titanium backup.
You can PM me if you have any questions about the process.
Here's my tool for flashing sbf's in linux on any computer. It's got a lot of useful info about flashing and problems at the bottom read it even if you flash in windows.
It seems I can't backup my ROM. When I click "Backup current ROM" my DX just reboots.
I had the same problem and how I fixed it was used koush bootrap and after that I was able to use ROM Manager. Thanks
Ok, so I got koush's bootstrapper, launched it and phone has reboooted and started to backup. I can't tell if it's using the clockwork or koush to backup though.
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Ok, so I got koush's bootstrapper, launched it and phone has reboooted and started to backup. I can't tell if it's using the clockwork or koush to backup though.
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It uses clockwork to backup and koush to hijack the boot init process
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To use the backup feature in ROM Manager: Go to koush's bootsrap 1st and bootstrap recovery, then go to ROM Manager and select "Backup Current ROM." It will then reboot in recovery and start the backup process.
Couple things. Koush = Koushik Dutta, Developer of Clockworkmod Recovery, Rom Manager, and DX/D2 BootStrapper.
If you try to only use Rom Manager it WILL ONLY REBOOT. That's because you have to use the BootStrapper to "hijack" the boot. It creates "/data/.recovery_mode" and prevents "/system" from mounting and running on reboot. Only then should it go into recovery when you reboot. After you are done, and are rebooted back in to the GUI, the BootStrapper app looks for "/data/.recovery_mode" and deletes it, if it exists. That way when you turn off or reboot the phone, you don't go back into recovery every time. This is also why you have to Bootstrap Recovery every time you want to do something with the Clockworkmod Recovery, e.i. nandroid, install new ROM, or restore a backup.
Will bootstrap work for Motorola Bravo?
Used Superoneclick to root the device and downloaded ClockworkMod...I get the reboot at Backup current rom, too. I see that I need to install Bootstrapper but wonder if it'll work for Bravo.
Koush might be great...
But theres something a little devious about the fact that i already paid for his ROM Manager which has an option to backup, but doesnt actually back anything up, until you pay more money for a bootstrap utility to accompany the cwm app you already paid for!!
that's a li'l shady in my opinion!
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But theres something a little devious about the fact that i already paid for his ROM Manager which has an option to backup, but doesnt actually back anything up, until you pay more money for a bootstrap utility to accompany the cwm app you already paid for!!
that's a li'l shady in my opinion!
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It's not shady, it's not the developers fault, the locked bootloader forces a hijack process hat the boostrap application puts in place. There's plenty of places that you can get the boostrap app for free; also, I believe that in the ROM Manager description it states that you must use one of the bootstrap applications.
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system version:2.3.340.mb810.verizon.en.us
android version:2.2.1
baseband:bp_c_01.09.07p
kernal:2.6.32.9-g55626e1
eri:5
prl:52105
I rooted my phone using z4root
My question is what do i do next? Ive been reading the wiki page and it says to deodex my phone. I also have a rooted evo and the roms i use on that phone are already deodexed and i use clock work recovery.
Does the clockwork recovery work with the X? I really just need to know what to do next and what rom is recommended.
Clockwork works with the X. You can get it here: http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010_08_01_archive.html the bootstrap comes with CWM.
I've been using fission rom for awhile now and I like it. I also used Apex and Rubix and didn't have any big complaints. Installing a rom will deodex for you.
thanks for the info.
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Clockwork works with the X. You can get it here: http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010_08_01_archive.html the bootstrap comes with CWM.
I've been using fission rom for awhile now and I like it. I also used Apex and Rubix and didn't have any big complaints. Installing a rom will deodex for you.
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ok just to double check this is what im gonna do.
1. download and apply the bootstrap that was provide with the link above.
2. download the fission rom manager and use that for rom and theme.
also does fission rom manager offer a nandroid backup or will i have to use clockworks rom manager for that?
The application "Rom manager" is just a way of managing clockworkmod. FRM also manages clockworkmod. Either way you can hold down the back button while booting and use clockworkmod manually. Both apps use clockworkmod to do nandroid backups, and install roms/themes/etc.
I'm running froyo rooted with Droid 2 Bootstrap and I have ROM Manager installed. Every time I install CM7 via RM it fails. When I install using recovery mode I get:
assert failed: run_program ("/tmp/check_kernel") == 0
Status 7
This question should be in the General section, not the Android Development section, as it is not a new ROM or other development (as in making or fixing android software/firmware) related topic, thanks.
That aside, How does it fail in Rom Manager? (i.e. Does it just not boot into Clockwork recovery?) What "recovery mode" are you using to install it if you can't get it to work via Rom Manager? (i.e. Koush's bootstrap? or Stock Moto Recovery?)
If Rom Manager doesn't work try using koush's bootstrapper. For me, Rom Manager wouldn't work so I flashed it via Koush's bootstrap and it installed fine and after the install Rom Manager worked fine.
So, if you can install it with Koush's Bootstrap recovery then, after the install DON'T use Koush's bootstrap and just use Rom Manager as it should work fine.
if youre not yet in cm7 then you have to use bootstrapper to install it, once cm7 is installed, you must not use bootstrapper.
Rom manager never works for me. I end up booting into cwm recovery with D2 recovery bootstrap...
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