Is it possible to re root the incredible after you apply the OTA or is it still broken?
if you have s-off, its just update, place the recovery image on the sd card, reboot into into hboot, and hit yes to upgrade and then itll flash the custom recovery and all is good
I am curious of this too. As mine is s-on and now I can't reroot. It gets to the part where it says it is "waiting for root" and never goes any further.
as of right now unrevoked will not work after the latest update is applied.
Do NOT update if you want to keep root....
If your running a rom built with the latest version this update won't come to you anyway.
If you see the update then you are using a rom that is built with old code.... tell the rom developer to update his shiat! If HTC can come out with updates faster then your rom developer can.... should you be using his rom?
And I assume there is no other way to root other than unrevoked?????? Surely the developers of unrevoked are working on finding the loop hole? I hope anyway. I miss my root apps that I had on my droid!
You can root without unrevockeds method. I can't remeber the exact procedure as i dont even know what i did wholly. But it involved unrooting but leaving the app and su. Upgrading to the proper baseband. Receiving the ota then pushing su again. I did this a few months ago though right after the 2.2 ota update. Took me like 3 hours to achieve root. If your interested i can try to repeat my method tomorrow and report back.
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or just downgrade.. reroot, have s-off, then update, then reroot
I like the downgrade idea. But I come from the motorola droid so I know the procedures are a lot different. I am not a noob by any means on rooting but I am to this phone. Could you please walk me through it and point me in the direction of the files??
Man I wish I read this thread before doing the OTA manually. I upgraded the OTA last night and my phone had S-on. Everything was ok, until I tried to install the payload zip and Superuser zip from Clockwork afterward. Before I did that, I was able to boot in the phone after the OTA even with Clockwork but after applying those 2 zip files, my phone will go in a loop after the droid animation and back to the HTC screen and forever stuck in reboot. I was so freaked out but with clockwork I just flashed wipe everything and installed Virtuous 3.1. Everything is working fine now, but if you do the OTA, do not install SU and payload in Clockwork
So you can do the OTA on a rooted phone running a custom rom?
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So you can do the OTA on a rooted phone running a custom rom?
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Not sure if the 10/13 build of Virtuous 3.1 already have the OTA or not. At this point, I kind of don't really care, just glad I have my phone up and running again. Plus unless you really want Bloatware, most of the changes don't seem to be that signficiant. Here's the change log
* Updated Flash Player with security enhancements
* Visual Voice Mail Wifi improvements and removal of incorrect service messages and post-call notifications
* Better support for Yahoo IMAP e-mail
* Update to Slacker Radio app
* You can attach files larger than 5MB
* Updated Cox POP3 e-mail settings
* Updated Comcast POP3 e-mail settings
* Play YouTube videos in the YouTube app (that's new?)
* Seamlessly switch between portrait/landscape in Google Maps
* Search key and other buttons displayed in the correct order (what's the wrong order?)
* VCAST app lets you bill apps to your Verizon account
Yeah. Lots of Bloatware. I just flashed the 10/13 "almost"stock ROM over my previous ROM and everything works fine. Battery life is great with the new stock kernel. I'm not using setcpu. Quadrant speed is lower but the phone is very fast. BT connects much better although I find BT volume to be low. 3G is very stable. I had to go back into ADB and remove VCast, VVM etc but that's not too big a deal.
ok so i have s-off and cant reroot using the unrevoked3. it hangs at the waiting for root screen. can i just apply the clockworkmod update zip and call it a day to get root again
I can't seem to get a clear answer on this: Do I need to have the stock recovery to successfully install this OTA? I have S-OFF and Clockworkmod, and so far I haven't figured out for sure if I should accept the OTA through the dialog, or if I can apply it through ROM Manager, or if I can apply it through Clockworkmod. Can anyone clear this up for me?
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I can't seem to get a clear answer on this: Do I need to have the stock recovery to successfully install this OTA? I have S-OFF and Clockworkmod, and so far I haven't figured out for sure if I should accept the OTA through the dialog, or if I can apply it through ROM Manager, or if I can apply it through Clockworkmod. Can anyone clear this up for me?
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The update will go through HBOOT, you can update with clockwork and s-off. though it seems from what i've read in this thread if you do you will no longer be rooted.
I remeber what i did for the 2.2 update. What i did was restore the stock recovery but leave su and superuser. This makes the phone look stock without root. Then take the ota. Reflash clockworkmod. Su and superuser apk should still be there. Then use a super usr app. Im pretty sure thats what i did to reroot
Edit. This process assumes that su and superuser.apk are on the phone and not removed.
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I have s-off but not Su or root. How do I reroot
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If anybody wants the stock recovery ill find and post it.
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The update will go through HBOOT, you can update with clockwork and s-off. though it seems from what i've read in this thread if you do you will no longer be rooted.
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So then do I need to reinstall the bloat apps that it will look for? And can't I just use unrevoked to re-root?
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If anybody wants the stock recovery ill find and post it.
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If you could that would be great. Thanks.
Cary
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So I have Unrevoked3, and want to update OTA, I don't need root anymore.
However, when I update it goes to start the update, then I get a yellow triangle with an exclamation point and an android, it just sits there til I pull the battery.
I want to be sure this is just an issue with needing to unroot, and not something else.
If its just an unrooting issue, how do I unroot from Unrevoked3? All the unrooting topics I've found were for toast or simpleroot.
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Btw, the RA is Clockwork recovery.
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Pretty sure all you need to do is put the update on your SD card, flash it, and then you're done. You'll lose root, but it should work that way. YMMV and all that.
I'll try it when I get home, hopefully it'll work.
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any word? I too am having the yellow triangle displayed on my screen when trying to install the OTA after doing Unrevoked 3
Nevermind, Im downloading now.
Im also downloading the 1.47 RUU incase I need to start from scratch, which Ive heard works with revoke.. Im just not sure how to reflash the stock recovery image and get rid of Clockwork Mod and Unrevoked.
I ran flash sdcard:update.zip and so far its updating with no issues, will wait for boot up to see if it took.
I think using the ruu is the only way to reset the recovery, anyway thats what I did and d/ling the OTA now.
Worked fine. Booted up took a bit, but Im used to that with all updates, Im now running Android 2.2
As a side, is the FroYo update supposed to wipe apps/settings? Mine werent.
well mine seemed to work, I didn't care about reseting so my process went like this..
completely stock+unrevoked3 root+clockworkmod
RUU_Supersonic_1.47.651.1_Radio_2.05.00.06.10_release_CL195459.exe
OTA d/l and installed over 1.47
ota installed successfully
factory defaulted with 2.2 in place
Im running 2.2, but none of my settings were reset and all my apps are still there.
Does running this : RUU_Supersonic_1.47.651.1_Radio_2.05.00.06.10_rele ase_CL195459.exe erase all of the phone's previous memory?
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Does running this : RUU_Supersonic_1.47.651.1_Radio_2.05.00.06.10_rele ase_CL195459.exe erase all of the phone's previous memory?
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Yes.
It does not erase your sd card tho.
So unrevoked 3 users can't use the Froyo OTA update?
Ok, i just heard of the one click root app now out for the nexus one.. I always wanted to root, but every time I did, i was never able to get it. So anyways back to my questions...
*[1] I have stock froyo frf91.. I manually updated all the versions leading up to frf91 not once did I receive an ota update... Once I root, will that cancel my ota's? (even tho I manually update them) will I still get an ota update to gingerbread if I root?
*[2] Once I do this root thing, i want the best rom that includes a fast, clean, eye candy, all black theme. (Including the notification bar) after I find this, how do I go about and apply it? How do I install it?.. Isn't there an app in the market where I can look at the newest roms and themes and just apply them from there?
Sorry for the noob questions guys, i just want to witness what all of you have.. I want to unleash the potential of my nexus one! Lol.
** On a side note, i also heard that once you get a cyanogen rom, it is a must that you download the titanium back up app.. is that right?.. because that rom deletes everything...?
Thanks guys, very much!
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Never heard bout the Backup thing issue,
But No, once rooted you dont get OTA's (due the fact you change recovery image and rom)
I believe if you still keep things stock like Recovery, and Official ROM you do! (but unsure of this)
Also there is a adb way to root which is simple and thats how i rooted my phone!
you can give that a try instead of one click!
there are no roms in market..
Also try to look through the Dev section, to even apple Dev roms you need to flash custom recovery then do a nandroid back up, then from ther you use the apple from sd!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736271
this is the method i followed
-note if this is gonna be your first time rooting, i suggest you read all info possible bout it, then read it again.. the think on how your going to do it , then reread the info then apply.. while applying stil read the info
woah there. He'll still get the OTA notification and can even download it. You just can't apply the OTA updates. You have to use a rooted one, generally available here before you'll ever even see the OTA notification on your phone.
if you are rooting for the first time do it the loop adb way. Its a bit more involved but once you do it you will learn a bit about adb and other methods that you will need in the future.
One-Click root is going to make the more fun parts of modding harder in the future. The guide in the stickies is very easy to follow and it will pay off in the long run.
Or fastboot oem unlock it and have the badge of honor
That's the thing, i've tried doin it the adb way.. it just never worked for me..
And I also don't want to unlock the bootloader
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this way should work like perfect, the other way with pulling sdard way seems kinda over that top for me..
Yea.. so if I use this one click method, i can use custom roms and themes?
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Yea.. so if I use this one click method, i can use custom roms and themes?
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Yup, I did that yesturday, there are a few more steps after rooting to get custom roms to work but you can do it.
On another note, cant you just flash back to stock, then using rom manager get rid of the custom recovery, then unroot using the 1click root? Wont that put you back to stock? cant you use the ota's then?
The AndRoot app is awesome. U can turn root ON or OFF anytime (even for ota).
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Or fastboot oem unlock it and have the badge of honor
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and wear it proudly! fastboot is a cinch and pretty hard to ef up. the worst part is the syntax (especially if you dont have the recovery image in the right directory). i found this link to be helpful in learning how to use fastboot.
i used fastboot to unlock and to flash amon ra. then, running amon ra, i flashed whatever ROM i wanted. later, just for s and giggles i used rom manager to install the clockwork mod recovery.
if you dont like the outcome, you can always flash back to stock which will redo the stock recovery too... but the unlock badge will remain proudly displayed.
I have my rooted transformer and am trying to update but stow a quarter way throught the install and gives me an android Guy with a triangle with a "!" Sign in it... stock everything just rooted please help
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Fixed!!!!! I used Brks Asus transformer rootkit script to root which installs an insecure bootimage to work and this is what caused the problem, I just plugged my trandormer in and restored my original files then the update went on fine first try!!!! Thanks for the help!!!!
Did you install Clemsyn/Blades OC kernel? More than likely this is causing your problem.......
I'm getting the same error. Running 3.2 stock but rooted, no modified kernel. Only thing I modified was the Netflix patch which doesn't seem like it's needed now. Is there a flash able zip for this new update?
You can't update the normal way after rooting.
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You can't update the normal way after rooting.
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Actually, thats not true. I was running on stock 8.6.5.6 rooted, and was able to update sucessfully. I verified the update in the settings. I have also verified with root checker that i am no longer rooted, as i was before the update. I bought my transformer only a few weeks ago. It came with 3.1 and i updated to 3.2 before rooting. Wonder if that or the rooting method has something to do with why i was able to update while rooted.
I rooted using the method in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125714
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I have my rooted transformer and am trying to update but stow a quarter way throught the install and gives me an android Guy with a triangle with a "!" Sign in it... stock everything just rooted please help
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Same happened to me. As I understand it just rooting doesn't prevent future OTA updates, hence why I was prompted to download this latest, but why it now after failing it tells me there is no longer an update available is beyond me. I can only think ASUS has pulled it for some reason.
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Taomyn said:
Same happened to me. As I understand it just rooting doesn't prevent future OTA updates, hence why I was prompted to download this latest, but why it now after failing it tells me there is no longer an update available is beyond me. I can only think ASUS has pulled it for some reason.
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You only get it offered the once. Your device is then marked as updated at Asus end. If it didn't work because you were rooted, then tough...
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Actually, thats not true. I was running on stock 8.6.5.6 rooted, and was able to update sucessfully. I verified the update in the settings. I have also verified with root checker that i am no longer rooted, as i was before the update. I bought my transformer only a few weeks ago. It came with 3.1 and i updated to 3.2 before rooting. Wonder if that or the rooting method has something to do with why i was able to update while rooted.
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Hmm interesting.
Which method did you use to root it?
Maybe we can pin point why the updates are failing for some people after rooting. I would like to root mine if it was 100% that the OTA updates would still work, even if I had to root it again after each one.
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Hmm interesting.
Which method did you use to root it?
Maybe we can pin point why the updates are failing for some people after rooting. I would like to root mine if it was 100% that the OTA updates would still work, even if I had to root it again after each one.
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I'm having problems with OTA updates and have used Brk's ASUS Transformer HC3.2 RootKit Script to root my device.
I probably did something very stupid...in which I factory reset the device, but noticed that "superuser" is still installed in the apps list. I'm wondering now if i have to re root the device to uninstall superuser and then do another factory reset and then see if the OTA update works? suggestions appreciated
I always look at the updater script in the package before I update. This script contains a bunch of asserts that check the integrity of certain files before it will apply the update. If you can get the update package just open " \META-INF\com\google\android\updater-script" with notepad and that will show everything that's happening when the update occurs including the file asserts it makes. If you've modified these files then it will not update. 8.6.5.6 initially didn't work for me but by checking the script I found the problem was my srs_processing.cfg file because I tried to fix my speaker balance and this was a file that the script asserted. After restoring the original file I was able to update with stock recovery even though I had modified other system files. As long as the specific files the update checks are ok the update will proceed.
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I'm having problems with OTA updates and have used Brk's ASUS Transformer HC3.2 RootKit Script to root my device.
I probably did something very stupid...in which I factory reset the device, but noticed that "superuser" is still installed in the apps list. I'm wondering now if i have to re root the device to uninstall superuser and then do another factory reset and then see if the OTA update works? suggestions appreciated
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You need to UnRoot it, I don't think factory reset makes any difference to rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198303
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Hmm interesting.
Which method did you use to root it?
Maybe we can pin point why the updates are failing for some people after rooting. I would like to root mine if it was 100% that the OTA updates would still work, even if I had to root it again after each one.
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The above post about altering certain files appears it might have something to do with it. I rooted using this method... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198303
But it was V2 when i used it. It is now currently V4.
You can re-download the update if you clear your DMClient cache.
Follow the instructions in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1106054.html
I had the error with the Android + exclamation mark so I unrooted (reflashed both the stock ROM AND the stock recovery - to get rid of clockworkmod) then cleared the DMClient cache and was I able to update OTA.
As far as I am aware the OTA will not install if you have clockwork Mod flashed for recovery. But if you have rooted without flashing over stock recovery ie clockwork mod not installed the OTA should work but you will lose root by updating.
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As far as I am aware the OTA will not install if you have clockwork Mod flashed for recovery. But if you have rooted without flashing over stock recovery ie clockwork mod not installed the OTA should work but you will lose root by updating.
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Good point. I did not have clockwork mod recovery installed. Had stock recovery, stock ROM rooted.
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I used brk's rootkit script and just restored the original bootimage and it installed perfect let me know if it worked for you guys as well
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I tried flashing back original boot and recovery image, update still failed, and now it fota won't come back. Cleared DMClient cache and hard reset. Guess I'm out of luck until someone releases a flashable version of the update?
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I tried flashing back original boot and recovery image, update still failed, and now it fota won't come back. Cleared DMClient cache and hard reset. Guess I'm out of luck until someone releases a flashable version of the update?
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Same thing happened to me. Tried all the above, and can't get the update to come back.
Have any of you changed original system files whilst rooted? That's why it was failing for me. I managed to get the update again but it failed. I got it once more after it rebooted but took a copy first, unrooting made no difference. Unlike the downloadable firmwares from the ftp site which I checked out, the update script checks the integrity of a ton of files mainly the system apps that cannot be changed without root. If any have changed the script aborts.
Unfortunately even though I had backed up all of them with Titanium Backup, it wouldn't restore them and TB just hung. I tried all its options but nothing helped - a little worrying.
In the end I copied off the TB backup directory to a USB stick and used the NVflash recovery to restore back to factory. I then performed the upgrade again to both the tablet and dock without issues. Four hours later I have it almost back to where I want it.
Hope this helps some of you, even though it's not the best process, but the update imho is worth it
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OK I did not find this easily here, so am posting as a new thread - mods please delete if appropriate.
I had a rooted Atrix running 4.5.91 for ages, no issues. In looking for how to upgrade I came across a thread with the usual complicated series of steps and a side-note about OTA RootKeeper (find in Market).
So backed up (TBPro). Installed OTA RootKeeper. Unrooted. Verifyied it had. Re-rooted, to make sure it worked!
Then Unrooted and accepted the OTA upgrade.
Updated with no issues.
Restored root with no issues. All previously superusered apps still working fine, etc.
I did not find anything describing this very simple process anywhere, so thought I'd post.
(Only casualty of the upgrade is WeatherBug Elite which seems to be unable to connect - off to investigate now as mail, internet and everything else working fine).
Doesnt work
It's rootkeer doesn't keeps rot for atrix
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It's rootkeer doesn't keeps rot for atrix
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That is not true.
I actually posted that it worked for me in one of the other rooting threads. I did a little different than OP. I didn't unroot for the update. The OTA broke my root and I restored it using the app.
Installed Voodoo. Chose to backup (protect or whatever the option was) the root. Installed OTA. Went into Voodoo and restored root. It worked without any problems. Works as long as you have root before doing the update so I'm not sure what you mean that it doesn't keep the root because it worked for me and OP. I have the ATT version in case it matters.
Worked like a charm for my phone. If you google, you can find specific instructions on the web about the process of how to do it (since the app itself gives no instructions).
Are you guys using the stock recovery with this or have an alternative flashed? I have cwm flashed on mine so I don't think the ota will work. Am I correct?
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i have bootloader unlocked, rooted and CWM flashed.i installed voodoo OTA keeper , saved the all the root stuff with that app then did temp un-root and installed OTA, when it finished installing i just went to the app and hit re-root and it worked.. checked it with root checker
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Are you guys using the stock recovery with this or have an alternative flashed? I have cwm flashed on mine so I don't think the ota will work. Am I correct?
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Should work the recovery is its on part of the flash storage on the phone so i don't believe it matters much to the phone once you get cwm on there when updating through OTAs.
broke wifi
I was rooted. Hid the root, uninstalled superuser. Did OTA. Unhid root and reinstalled superuser.
Now my wifi disconnects about every 20 minutes for a few seconds then reconnects.
Can't find a fix.
Atrix 4G Unrootable after OTA Rootkeeper
OK, technicially it is still rooted, but it loses Shell Root. OTA Keeper. After I re-root or restore root with OTA Rootkeeper, all the check marks are checked off in the Status of Voodoo OTA RootKeer EXCEPT Root permission granted. Superuser app installed, Device roote, Filesyste supports root protection and Protecte su copy available are all checked, but the device does not allow permission to important apps I need and are the main reasons I root my phone. I couldn't care less about ROMs and fancy cosmetics. I need functionaity that this OTA Rootkeeper has cost me. I have tried reflashing, restoring to factory settings everything, and I still can't fully root my phone. superoneclick hangs at step #7, manual root gets an error message "device full" all because this OTA rootkeeper app has completely locked out other root methods and has an incomplete re-root method.
and that is the truth.
My Atrix was rooted using SuperOneClick. I have system version 4.5.91, Android version 2.3.4. Bootloader not unlocked. No CWM or any special ROMS installed.
I've been getting the constant nagging of the 2.3.6 update, but I don't want to lose root. I have ota rootkeeper app, and it looks like the instructions from the OP are simple enough.
My question is, is my situation similar enough to the OP's so I can go ahead with the update? I rooted my phone mainly to use Barnacle Wifi Tether, so definitely want to keep using that after the update.
I apologize in advance if this has been answered or if I have inadvertently offended. I did watch the video and have developed OSes for 30 years. I also have searched all over this site and the web for resolution and am making no progress, so I'm asking the 'oracle'
Got an ATT S4 (I337) a week ago - it was running UCUAMDL. I rooted it using Motochopper and was happily using Titanium Pro etc. I get notified of OTA update. OTA update downloads (357MB) yet fails during install at 30% consistsently.
I figure it is unhappy with my root - I unrooted and cannot remember which way I did it - I seem to recall SuperSU I was using did not have the built-in 'unroot' support so I grabbed the stock image and used ODIN to flash it.I also may have manually uninstalled the 'normal' way the SU app - I suspect this may be my real problem.
After flashing stock ROM for UCUAMDL phone was no longer rooted, did not say custom etc, and took the OTA upgrade just fine. This was for UCUAMF3 which did add App 2 SD support - BTW this update used another 1G of storage compared to UCUAMDL, and I could not recover the 1G by moving apps either, making it virtually worthless as far as adding support for apps in SD, lol.
The problem is now I cannot seem to get the device rooted again. Motochopper fails when installing su.apk. I suspect I have screwed the pooch - what do I need to do to get this thing rooted again?
Is it typical for an OTA update to fail 'because' the device is rooted?
Any advice is much appreciated.
You can't root mf3. You never should have taken the update if you want to be rooted. Cross your fingers that someone finds a way to root the update but I'm not sure you should hold your breath.
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So is doing a stockrom restore back to MDL an option? Then just root that with Motochopper? And disable OTA updates till its figured out?
The real joke here is that to get their built in app-to-sd functionality they give you an update that hogs up another 1GB!
Nope. Can't go back. Just gotta wait it out. Cheers
Just curious if you don't mind - WHY can't you go back? (Ready for the explanation based on perms and su etc, lol) Or flash stock ROM and factory reset etc?
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Just curious if you don't mind - WHY can't you go back? (Ready for the explanation based on perms and su etc, lol) Or flash stock ROM and factory reset etc?
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A qfuse is blown when you take the update. It won't let you odin or anything else to go back to an earlier firmware.
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