Epic 4G FroYo leaks - Fascinate General

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/12/android-2-2-update-for-samsung-epic-4g-leaks-out/
Is this enough to get going on a FroYo port for the Fascinate? Admittedly I don't understand the whole kernel-ROM set upo and what it really means, but since this is same hardware (sort of), is this enough to begin the good development on our phones? Just curious.

Do yourself a favor and change user names because I'm sure you aren't going to like the response that is soon to come. This general question has been asked a few dozen times in different forms...always with the same result. Pissed off devs. It will be here when there is a post containing a download link.

Just as a precaution, this is a topic for the General Fascinate Sub-Forum, only development talk in this sub-forum. Anybody reading this thread, disregard and no flaming.
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Do you not get it? Everyone is tired of the random posts about other phones.
Really, no one cares about froyo for other phones or the release date. We'll get it when it's ready. Don't worry, and don't post more about it...

I dont understand what you people are talking about. The Epic 4G is the Galaxy S phone on Sprint. How is that not relevant????

we need a 2.2 kernel for OUR phone to make it work.the software for 2.2 isn't the problem its the kernel
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RayKinStL said:
I dont understand what you people are talking about. The Epic 4G is the Galaxy S phone on Sprint. How is that not relevant????
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Because the galaxy s variants in the us are all very different from one another. For example, the epic gas a front facing camera and a slide out keyboard compared to the fascinate. The only two which are practically identical are the mesmerize and the fascinateas far as I know.

Are there no "epic"/"vibrant" threads within the first page of this subforum??
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Why are people so freaggin' impatient? It's like the Simpsons ride. It's not that we don't care. It's been said time and time again to WAIT for it. So...WAIT FOR IT!!!!

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dj05? what is it? who made it? how does it affect us?

what exactly is dj05? who is releasing it? samsung? verizon?
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What is DJ05? That's a terrific question...
Dj05 is an update from Verizon. The official one is not released yet. It is a fix for some features. Like the soft key backlight now stays on with the screen. It has a GPS fix and numerous other ones. The one You hear about is just a non official one.
As for the who.... that's not of your concern
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DJ05 is a mystical update only spoken of in the depths of IRC, also known as infinite rainbow colors.
thanks whatsup.. good answer
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The update is all over the place right now. I dont know why people are having a hard time finding it. And it boggles me why its not being posted in these forums.
But if higher-ups dont want it posted here thats the way its gotta be.
Either way look at it like this....this update will be out before 2.2...........so 2.2 is far off for us!!!
One line of the channel log from Verizon says its a preperation update for "2.2 due next year"
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But if higher-ups dont want it posted here thats the way its gotta be.
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I read a post around the beginning of the DJ05 teases that amounted to, "if we released this on the forums, there would be an explosion of new 'My phone doesn't work!!' threads the next day". I believe it's not fully public here more for the protection of the end users and sanity of the devs than withholding goodies. The #Samsung-Fascinate channel of IRC is where the devs hang out to work out kinks, if you're interested in participating before broadcast release.
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The update is all over the place right now. I dont know why people are having a hard time finding it. And it boggles me why its not being posted in these forums.
But if higher-ups dont want it posted here thats the way its gotta be.
Either way look at it like this....this update will be out before 2.2...........so 2.2 is far off for us!!!
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The "higher-ups" don't want it posted here because the "higher-ups" are trying to protect the people who leaked the ROM in the first place. Test builds are often watermarked and traceable.
Thank you RTFM. I leaked DJ05. come get me Verizon!!!!!!
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me too i leaked it first ninja
Watch out everyone. Dj05 is insanely unstable, i just got fired from my job for leaking it. The sad thing is i dont work at verizon. Thats the kind of reach verizon has. Watch out. They just came and took my cat.
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I'd be surprised if verizon doesn't leak this stuff themselves. They can monitor the forums and chat rooms to see how well it works and they get free beta testers who can't complain to them if it breaks the phone.
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That would be awesome. Btw it works fine
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SupraLance said:
I'd be surprised if verizon doesn't leak this stuff themselves. They can monitor the forums and chat rooms to see how well it works and they get free beta testers who can't complain to them if it breaks the phone.
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Who says they already don't have such a system in place ????
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Who says they already don't have such a system in place ????
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Verizons not that smart.
What is interseting is Samsung Galaxy S version on Sprint (EPIC) came out with Android 2.2 and it isn't DJ05. It is something higher.
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What is interseting is Samsung Galaxy S version on Sprint (EPIC) came out with Android 2.2 and it isn't DJ05. It is something higher.
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2.1 was probably something higher than 1.5 too. Of course it's going to be higher. DJ05 isn't froyo, and froyo isn't DJ05.
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Who says they already don't have such a system in place ????
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Aha! So you admit it! You are a VZ employee! You and ksizzle!
Learn to read lol he said he didnt work there. lol
as for the update... friend of mine that has it and it helping to test it for VZW has told me it will be another month or 2 for official release still far to "buggy", 2.2 that is....
on a side note i saw the new VZW Galaxy S LTE phone this weekend... its a prototype but freaking awsome!!!
the screen is crisper, has front facing camera, its a bit wider than the SF, but still very light. Comes with android 2.2 out of the box. from what i hear the data rates can be as good as 25M down and 8M up.
I must say that i was quite impressed with it...
unfortunatly i could not get a picture of it, my friend has alot of integrity.... sometimes thats a bad thing

[Q] HTC Droid Incredible 2.3 ROM - Why not Fascinate??

HTC Droid Incredible this phone has 2.3 ROM
DROID Incredible Owners Receive One of the First Really Polished Gingerbread ROMs
This is a Verizon Phone correct? If so how can there be a 2.3 ROM for this phone so fast?
http://www.droid-life.com/
Good news for Droid Incredible owners, you may have the first-almost-fully functional Gingerbread ROM thanks to r2DoesInc over at XDA Forums. As of late last night, the newest build fixed almost everything that would cause you to not use it except for video recording and a working GPS. Other than that though, the browser now works fine, the camera snaps shots, and things like multi-touch have all been polished up.
Is someone working on a Fascinate Gingerbread ROM??
Man these threads make my head hurt...
onemotodroid said:
HTC Droid Incredible this phone has 2.3 ROM
DROID Incredible Owners Receive One of the First Really Polished Gingerbread ROMs
This is a Verizon Phone correct? If so how can there be a 2.3 ROM for this phone so fast?
http://www.droid-life.com/
Good news for Droid Incredible owners, you may have the first-almost-fully functional Gingerbread ROM thanks to r2DoesInc over at XDA Forums. As of late last night, the newest build fixed almost everything that would cause you to not use it except for video recording and a working GPS. Other than that though, the browser now works fine, the camera snaps shots, and things like multi-touch have all been polished up.
Is someone working on a Fascinate Gingerbread ROM??
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Another useless thread .... let's see. Maybe because Inc. devs have the correct code to work with (i.e RIL). Others have pointed this out in countless other 'Where's Froyo' threads. Be patient. You hold in your hand a much better phone than the Incredible, regardless of what software it's running.
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One day hopefully we will get 2.3, but the incredible having 2.3 doesn't really affect us. I had 2.2 on my eris for the past 3 months at least and the fascinate doesn't have it. Even without having froyo, I still like the fascinate 10x more than I ever liked my eris. When the update does come it will just make it even better.
When the update do come, we all probably already left the fascinate and unto the incredible hd. Sad but it' the truth. Too many disapointments and lack of urgency from samsung.
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adrynalyne said:
Man these threads make my head hurt...
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Oh, I know what you mean. No wonder the devs stopped coming here so much. The questions been answered. There's a search function for a reason-use it.
Actually I find the search function to be a little clunky. I always use it anyway, but often google works fastest. It is amazing how quickly this forum gets indexed.
However, the most obvious is the list of posts that come up when you try to start a topic. At minimum, one should look into those. There has been an excess of overlap this month.
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1st and LAST Samsung product I'll ever own.
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I said the same thing with the Samsung Moment..I was Awed by the AMOLED display, but Samsung's record of device support is in the ****ter. Then I bought a Fascinate because of the camera and the SAMOLED display.
I use this phone for what it is..a phone. Everything else is extra, and this phone has the BEST camera for any cell phone on the market currently. I'll stick with Samsung for now
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Man these threads make my head hurt...
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Ditto... although it could be because of the copious amounts of alcohol I consumed last night.
Alright, enoughs enough... Lets get a moderator to make a thread stating WHY we do not have froyo/GB so we don't have to read the same thing over and over again... Its simple... we DO NOT have the RIL source code and the one they even gave us is botched at best (from what I have read). So simply make a thread with that name then simply put we will not have a working gb/froyo ROM until we get the RIL source code from sammy (or a verizon one leaks out at which point, we will make a new thread in the developement section). This is the only options we have. There are no workarounds. STOP posting random meaningless threads about your idea because it won't work. If still think it will please head over to the IRC and talk to a dev about it but expect to get charred from the flaming if it is something dumb.
PS: you can never expect people to use the Search Button.... its sad but its the truth
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I said the same thing with the Samsung Moment..I was Awed by the AMOLED display, but Samsung's record of device support is in the ****ter. Then I bought a Fascinate because of the camera and the SAMOLED display.
I use this phone for what it is..a phone. Everything else is extra, and this phone has the BEST camera for any any cell phone on the market right now. I'll stick with Samsung for now
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This.
What is does right now, it does very, very well.
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This.
What is does right now, it does very, very well.
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Wow..re-reading what I wrote..I sound like a blooming retard.
Maybe, but what you wrote is truth. This phone is quite good at what it does as is; I hope they don't screw that up with an update. Given some of what I've read about Froyo on other sgs phones, I'd rather have what we have now.
The grass isn't always greener
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Why very little devs?

Im not complaining just wondering
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I imagine their al very tall.
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What makes you think there is a small #? I'm very pleased with the development teams we have. They have all done a lot of great work.
After 10 million sold I was wondering that also.
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After 10 million sold I was wondering that also.
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Out of ten million units how many are running stock? I bet you the majority.
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The endless cries for help from noobs and/or people lacking common sense drove them away?
Lack of 2.2 source.
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Out of ten million units how many are running stock? I bet you the majority.
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stop being a jerk.
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I imagine their al very tall.
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What makes you think there is a small #? I'm very pleased with the development teams we have. They have all done a lot of great work.
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Well, i'm currently good for this as well, but look at it, the only devs that people know for vibrants are: Eugene, Master, TW thats pretty much it i think?
TW is probably a bunch of people, master, he seems to be working alone currently, and Eugene is probably working with barak or something.
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Lack of 2.2 source.
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^ this
blame samsung
Yea since 2.1 is over with we just need 2.2 not the leaks
I love development as well im on axura I just noticed
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quadratic said:
Lack of 2.2 source.
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i dont understand because theres no 2.2 theres not even devs working for the vibrant?
Explain, and if your trying to make thsi thread into a I HATE SAMSUNG one, please gtfo.
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i dont understand because theres no 2.2 theres not even devs working for the vibrant?
Explain, and if your trying to make thsi thread into a I HATE SAMSUNG one, please gtfo.
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I wanna take that bet and when official froyo comes out there will be more I don't care anymore.
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And btw where is Eugene? He hasnt teleased anything in a while...
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If I'm not mistaken that 10 million number is the whole Galaxy S line. 3 of the phones in that line have had very little, if any, in the way of leaked software thereby putting the need for anything new at a stand still. The majority of the 10 million sold have been I9000 which has seen plenty of development. As for the Vibrant I count 4 active Dev teams that are major players here, Eugene, Team Whiskey, Master, Heathen. Then you have a couple others releasing random items. To my recollection there has been a new rom or update to existing roms every single week. I'm not sure what else you would want maybe a new rom to flash daily? One of those devs has stop posting here but those that like his work have given us all the updated info. All of the Devs with the exception of Heathen have slowed down a bit for various reason known only to them but I'd speculate 3 possible reasons. 1. Holidays man people want to relax a little. 2. Nothing new to work with in a few weeks and the last 3 or 4 leaks have just been tweaks to 2.2. And finally C. with 2.3 on the horizon I'm sure some of the devs are busy finding a way to bring us all a stable/working version.
Hope this clears everything up for you.
Alanrocks15 said:
I wanna take that bet and when official froyo comes out there will be more I don't care anymore.
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What "bet"?
Official froyo doesn't make people want to develop this phone.
When official froyo comes out, everyone will want gingerbread, when we get that official well want the next, and so on...
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What "bet"?
Official froyo doesn't make people want to develop this phone.
When official froyo comes out, everyone will want gingerbread, when we get that official well want the next, and so on...
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Not exactly true. I mean I understand the sentiment. But it only goes up to a point. I thoroughly expect either an official 2.3 release sometime this year, or at least a stable 2.3 port from the Nexus considering it's pretty much the same exact phone. But after that, I'm not expecting much considering the handset with be EOL by then.
I was a former G1 owner, and I think it was great that we were able to get an official build of 1.6, and even though CM worked pretty well on it (at least the Eclair versions), you can't really expect that it would run Froyo well.
Bottom line, I think if every handset was updated within the first 1.5 years of it's life, people would be satisfied and there would be a lot less frustration about lack of support with Android in general.

Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers

Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers
FYI #2, I figured some of ya might be very interested to hear this!
Got me interested!
I'll believe it when I see it.
I call bull ****
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Wow. Don't believe that. Were still trying to get another froyo coming on the 21st.
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Willieumm said:
I'll believe it when I see it.
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this
/10 char
I have trouble believing... but maybe someone in the Samsung front office actually got a clue...
Add in the "rumor" of a Samsung Nexus S 4G being announced by Sprint at CTIA....
Heck, would be nice to be ahead for a change....
But I'm not gonna hold my breath! ROFL!
More than one person here has said any official port of GB to the Epic would be far less work than Froyo has been for Sammy and Sprint. But I've always said that's being more hopeful than history warrants us to be. I'll be glad to just get a good Froyo on here without worries.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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While I have my doubts about Sprint/Samsung actually supporting our phones with OS updates past 2.2; the possibility of the Nexus coming to Sprint and the speed at which they have (supposedly) fixed bugs and moved to release another Froyo update to us has me optimistic this may have some truth to it.
Maybe samsung does care after all
Negativity in 3.....2......1............
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I call bull ****
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This belongs in the rumour thread...
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If this happens it could go a long way to make me rethink my never buying another samsung and going back to HTC. Samsung had great hardware. I love it, but I can't deal with this software delay again. If I see evidence I won't have to wait with samsung then I would be welling to give another shot. They need to prove it.
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I suspect much would be forgiven if Sammy actually accomplished this, it went relatively smoothly, defects were minimal, and the change persisted in the future.
I know I'd forgive and forget. As I posted in another thread awhile back, I'm not vindictive, and it makes no sense to hold a grudge against a company... I only punish myself, not them.
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I always have believed that if a couple of dev's on this site can pump out a stable rom in a short amount of time WHILE having other jobs and doing this in their free time, there is no reason for any company that PAYS people to do the same job to take as long as these companies do.
As neat as it sounds to have Sprint and Samsung push out the first 2.3 updates in the US, I will not be holding my breath what so ever. I'll stick with custom roms and just Odin back if I have any trouble.
With that said, it'll be nice to see Samsung release this, but then again I just don't care. I love my phone regardless
Jus be patient ppl...it will come when it comes....
IF it comes that is.
Ok... Flame me if you want to, but I believe it.
You: Omg! No! Sammy will nevurrrr do that!
Yes, they would. They dont want to lose customers and more importantly, if the nexus s 4g rumors are true, it will most likely have the same hardware as the epic because the epic 4g radios arent broken, so they dont need to fix them, and even if they are, samsumg used some of the horrible moment files for us. Anyways, with a nexus s 4g, samsung will have a 2.3.x device with epic hardware, and since they already have the drivers from it, the epic 4g will get 2.3 quick like how the i9000 has official 2.3, even if we dont get it quick, we (the xda community) can get the nexus s 4g software running on the epic really quick.
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The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
Top Nurse said:
This belongs in the rumour thread...
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Technically, this is a Gingerbread rumor. The other thread is for Froyo rumors.
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RSPC said:
The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
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Totally agree. Samsung is slow, sprint is just as slow if not worse. I started out with blackberry(bowing my head in shame) and they were horrible with them. Rim atleast understood that so they let out leaks on a fairly regular basis for the devs to play with. Now with android, first the moment and now with the epic, sprint is terrible again. And whats even worse with both of them, and where they can stop alot negativity from even starting is if they both just comminicate more with the users. I feel if we had more info, especially on promised updates, it is an easier pill to swallow then being left totally in the dark.
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Is it me or is Epic development almst dead?

Is it just me or is Epic development almost dead?
Two-three months ago there was CM6,MIUI,CM7 and more original roms in the works,what happened?
Yeah i know that for CM7 they are waiting for official GB to drop but what about CM6 that was 90 percent finished and MIUI that was almost finished?
I know that we still got roms but most of them with exception of ACS and few others are mostly remixes and tweaks of stock rom.
Our Epic is way behind Vibrant,Fascinate and Captivate.
It's just you. Don't knock what the amazing developers have done for us. We have plenty of roms and we will have plenty once gingerbread drops.
I agree. Feel free to learn how to dev, though. You won't sound like a detractor from the forum.
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Is it just me or is Epic development almost dead?
Two-three months ago there was CM6,MIUI,CM7 and more original roms in the works,what happened?
Yeah i know that for CM7 they are waiting for official GB to drop but what about CM6 that was 90 percent finished and MIUI that was almost finished?
I know that we still got roms but most of them with exception of ACS and few others are mostly remixes and tweaks of stock rom.
Our Epic is way behind Vibrant,Fascinate and Captivate.
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dont worry op. i feel for ya.
no disrespect, but what phones did you guys come from. i went through the mogul, the touch, touch pro and then tp2. i mean we had a **** ton of development. not all of it was quality, but i mean, real talk. epic dev just never got off the ground. im totally not ungrateful, and im still learning android and linux, and im going to kick a little ass one of these days. it just wont be with this phone.
like i said. im not a **** talker. look me up at ppcgeeks. ive got 3000 posts (6 thou if you count off topic) and a rep that doubles that.
I know the feeling I see so much stuff from may it makes it hard not to switch phones only thing keeping me around is hope at this point
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I know the feeling I see so much stuff from may it makes it hard not to switch phones only thing keeping me around is hope at this point
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the only thing keeping me around is sprint not dropping an evoesque phone with a keyboard. all my favorite devs went to the desire z and the evo.
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the only thing keeping me around is sprint not dropping an evoesque phone with a keyboard. all my favorite devs went to the desire z and the evo.
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Yep... that and unlimited data... wish htc made a qwerty slider for android.. ill never give up my full kb.
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dont worry op. i feel for ya.
no disrespect, but what phones did you guys come from. i went through the mogul, the touch, touch pro and then tp2. i mean we had a **** ton of development. not all of it was quality, but i mean, real talk. epic dev just never got off the ground. im totally not ungrateful, and im still learning android and linux, and im going to kick a little ass one of these days. it just wont be with this phone.
like i said. im not a **** talker. look me up at ppcgeeks. ive got 3000 posts (6 thou if you count off topic) and a rep that doubles that.
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Damn, I just hit 1,000 posts over there. Big part of it seeming smaller is that the only carrier with the Epic is sprint. Android roms aren't like winmo roms where all you had to do was provision a rom to a particular carrier.
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Yep... that and unlimited data... wish htc made a qwerty slider for android.. ill never give up my full kb.
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they do... its called the evo shift...
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they do... its called the evo shift...
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i know im picky, but i like 5 rows (dedicated number row)
i just dont want to leave sprint either. its not just the unlimited data, low prices and yearly upgrade. i just like them. i live in kc mo. right across the state line from sprint worl headquarters. we have a 18000 person arena in downtown called the sprint center. sprint logos are every where. we have the sprint cu at the kansas speedway. i mean it is my home town carrier.
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Big part of it seeming smaller is that the only carrier with the Epic is sprint. Android roms aren't like winmo roms where all you had to do was provision a rom to a particular carrier.
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good point
i got more thanks tomorrow.
This is my first experience with custom ROMs and I for one am very content with the amount of development for the Epic. I have looked at other forums and yes there may be a larger following, or more talk about development, but a lot of it seems to be garbage. I have flashed and used a few different ROMs now and they are all solid with few if any bugs. SRF is what I am running now and I have not found a single functionality issue. I also love that the Epic devs continue to improve their product instead of releasing some piece of crap ROM and never touching it again. Also the relatively smaller quantity of development makes things like qbking's videos possible and help all of us learn to better utilize the phones potential.
I say cheers to the devs for what they do and the time they put in! I could never accomplish even a portion of what they do. Thanks guys!
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This is my first experience with custom ROMs and I for one am very content with the amount of development for the Epic. I have looked at other forums and yes there may be a larger following, or more talk about development, but a lot of it seems to be garbage. I have flashed and used a few different ROMs now and they are all solid with few if any bugs. SRF is what I am running now and I have not found a single functionality issue. I also love that the Epic devs continue to improve their product instead of releasing some piece of crap ROM and never touching it again. Also the relatively smaller quantity of development makes things like qbking's videos possible and help all of us learn to better utilize the phones potential.
I say cheers to the devs for what they do and the time they put in! I could never accomplish even a portion of what they do. Thanks guys!
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This.
Quality over quantity anyday our devs cook up some amazing stuff for us.
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I love this phone. That is all.
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we have several quality ROMs and Themes to choose from
It should come as no surprise really. There are 3 main reasons why it may seem development is slow:
Small community. Meaning that our sample set in which developers are drawn is smaller. Thankfully, this phone was top notch in hardware when it came out, so it increased our chances of having very talented developers since it naturally drew people who seriously appreciated hardware. Hence, why we have a small number of developers but they're all very very good at what they do. It could have ended up with a small number AND not a lot of quality.
Touchwiz. What I mean by this is that we're still waiting on a fully functional AOSP based rom, with CM7 being the closest to completion. Without it, all there is to develop on is touchwiz, and we've pretty much exhausted what we can do with it (so far). Once there's one ROM on AOSP, that allows for more ROMs to be developed on AOSP. Plus, the completion of CM7 could very well attract developers who prefer to develop on AOSP to try a couple projects, and have simply been waiting for CM to be completed. This all ties in with reason number 3.
Froyo. Like touchwiz, we've pretty much done all we can do with it. With the release of gingerbread, it'll open up a whole new opportunity to develop. Remember, we went through the same thing towards the end of eclair's life. Not a whole lot of development, and everyone really just waiting for froyo. The difference was, however, that everyone was itching SO BAD for froyo that a lot of projects were done on DK28; we were truly behind the times then, and so even the developers were willing to play with a leak. Not so much now; we're not AS behind the curve considering there are still few phones (besides newly released ones) on gingerbread. This, too, is much like the anticipation of an AOSP precedent as mentioned previously: it's quite possible that there are potential developers who are simply waiting for gingerbread to be released before coming to this phone.
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can anyone explain to me how the mytouch slide 4g has cm7 and overclocked gingerbread kernels with out gb source?
austin420 said:
can anyone explain to me how the mytouch slide 4g has cm7 and overclocked gingerbread kernels with out gb source?
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I don't know, but the easiest explanations are:
More developers? Better chance to figure out the kernel drivers on their own.
It's made by HTC? It's pretty much a known that samsungs kernel drivers are always wacky, and in general, what one phone has doesn't neccessarily help with another. With HTC, their kernel drivers are a little more consistent across phones and it's easier to make things work by borrowing and tweaking.
Linux loaded modules? Don't know if it's relevant, but it's possible to use these to overclock a phone in a round-about way.
There's something that really needs to be laid to rest here regarding the arguement that everybody gives saying "we didn't get cm6 when froyo source was released, so how are we gonna get cm7 just because of gingerbread source?" Two reasons:
One: we only had one dev working on it, noobnl. Now we have a TEAM. And each on is just as if not more talented than him.
Two: we didn't have another device to kang any AOSP driver source from. With cm7, our team borrowed what they could from the nexus s 4g. And rest assured, they DID get a little use out of it.
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austin420 said:
can anyone explain to me how the mytouch slide 4g has cm7 and overclocked gingerbread kernels with out gb source?
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It's the same phone as every other HTC phone, once they get something working on one all the others get it pretty quickly.
063_XOBX said:
It's the same phone as every other HTC phone, once they get something working on one all the others get it pretty quickly.
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then by the same logic, since the i9000 has gb, we should too? the only difference in the mytouch4g and most other htc phones is a keyboard and 4g. sound familiar?

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