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Ok so I would like to get a vibrant soon but there are a few things that bother me that I would like to get resolved.
#1 how are the custom ROMS? Can i use Galaxy S and Captivate ROMS or is it specific to the vibrant only?
#2 I really dont like the UI they put on there. I like the stock android OR sense UI. I know sense will probably never make it to the vibrant but how about the stock android? Are there any ROMS right now that offer that? I know how to theme but that would be a lot of changing.
#3 development... I feel like since the Galaxy S will be across the world and many carriers development would be fairly good right? How is it now? What do you think it will be like in the future?
Hey NC!
#1 how are the custom ROMS? Can i use Galaxy S and Captivate ROMS or is it specific to the vibrant only?
There are no ROMs right now. CM6 has two developers working on porting to the Galaxy though.
#2 I really dont like the UI they put on there. I like the stock android OR sense UI. I know sense will probably never make it to the vibrant but how about the stock android? Are there any ROMS right now that offer that? I know how to theme but that would be a lot of changing.
Use ADW or LauncherPro (amazing on this phone)
#3 development... I feel like since the Galaxy S will be across the world and many carriers development would be fairly good right? How is it now? What do you think it will be like in the future?
It will eventually be very good. With the volume sold and ability of this phone, it will eventually have great development. Right now, a lot of developers, especially on here are used to HTC and getting used to Samsung and the differences.
You have to remember, This phone Just came out and the other 2 still haven't.
Plus, this is not an HTC phone.
That being said, development is going strong.
Expect the Flood gates to open soon.
FYI: I use both ADW launcher and Launcher Pro (bothe give me the the stock android experience you seek.
i think the custom roms will start flowing.
about touchwiz, I thought that would be the first thing i removed, but i have actually liked some things about it, but like has already been mentioned, use ADW or whatever launcher you prefer.
I think development witll really start to take off in time.
Thanks for the quick replies. Great answers
I use:
Touch Calendar
ADW launcher
aContacts
stock News & Weather
Klaxon
cubed.
That pretty much gets me around the Yucky TouchFlow. I also rooted and installed Root Explorer to get rid of the bloatware easily.
I was really hesitant, and except for having to tap ever so accurately when correcting text because there's no dpad (I've put a request in to a dev that I like for a soft dpad), I'm very happy.
If you get too much lag because of the slow storage memory, there's a hack for that. I haven't use it yet.
Just took a chance and bought it. Loving the phone but just as I expected, touchwiz is quite annoying. Cant wait to see a 2.2 cyannogen rom
I did my homework, and have come up mostly empty. Read what I could find on the CM site; wikipedia; blogs; newsgroups; and a lot more. Probably at least 2 hours trying to get a comparative handle on CM vs. stock release derived ROMs.
After all that, I'm only a tiny bit closer to understanding what I gain, and what I give up, going to CM.
If there if a good, detailed articulation of this somewhere, please help us CM noobs with a pointer; Otherwise, I'd like to start a thread to capture as much detailed information about comparing CM to stock-based ROMs so people can make informed choices.
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http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=What_is_CyanogenMod
Thanks, that's a start, but in truth it's information like that that prompted my starting this thread.
That's generic information. Only moderately helpful in judging specifically for the Epic whether I should go CM, or with another custom ROM.
For example, info like this: CM does not include the accelerated Samsung video player, and doesn't handle many video formats and codings well in comparison. So, if playing h264 coded video in mkv containers is important to you, CM will be a challenge, where Bonsai, ACS, Midnight, etc. will be a much simpler choice to meet your needs.
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Think about it like this. If you buy a PC from a big company (HP, Dell, etc) it comes with a fully functional install of software. Windows + drivers + all other crap they decide you should have. That is equivalent to the Samsung ROM that comes stock on Epic.
What if you build your own PC from components? You will install Windows, then you will dig up the drivers you need separately, and then load your own applications.
Android AOSP in this comparison is the "base" install of Windows. Nothing else added in.
The drivers and other changes required to make the base Android work with your hardware is CyanogenMod.
So basically, Samsung based roms will have all the functioning drivers and everything else in them. Dev's tear them apart and remove/change what they don't want, but don't have to worry much about hardware cause the drivers are straight from Samsung.
AOSP based roms (CyanogenMod) will be utterly broken and have no hardware support at first. Developers have to write real lines of code into the software to make it support the Epic or any other phone. The are built from the ground up. That is why it is so amazing what Team CM7 has already got working in so little time!
Again, thanks for the sincere attempts to answer this qualitatively. However, that's not the issue. See my example above.
What you describe above with the custom PC example, while true, isn't informative enough for most people to make an informed decision.
Knowing that CM is free of carrier bloatware doesn't help me understand in any way that the video player with CM had some important limitations when compared to the optimized video player Samsung includes. For some people, this may be a critical issue in making a decision.
It is those sort of specific differences that I thought would be helpful to enumerate and capture. Of course anyone can simply install the ROM and discover for themselves... Judging by my own struggle to find enough information to make an informed choice myself, I thought others might benefit from nailing this stuff down.
So far, it looks like I may have been mistaken?
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Again, thanks for the sincere attempts to answer this qualitatively. However, that's not the issue. See my example above.
What you describe above with the custom PC example, while true, isn't informative enough for most people to make an informed decision.
Knowing that CM is free of carrier bloatware doesn't help me understand in any way that the video player with CM had some important limitations when compared to the optimized video player Samsung includes. For some people, this may be a critical issue in making a decision.
It is those sort of specific differences that I thought would be helpful to enumerate and capture. Of course anyone can simply install the ROM and discover for themselves... Judging by my own struggle to find enough information to make an informed choice myself, I thought others might benefit from nailing this stuff down.
So far, it looks like I may have been mistaken?
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So, you're looking for a more hand held description of what CM7 doesn't have?
....
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I can give you the best piece of advice....
This is a development site, not a front end rom publishing site..
If there's not already documentation, test the differences yourself, and report the findings for the next gentleman who comes along with your same questions...
Then before too long you're not a "noob" anymore..
But to answer your question, cyanogen is a more bare bones android experience.. it is built off of the AOSP (ANDROID OPEN SOURCE PROJECT).. It is stripped of any carrier or manufacturer additions (like HTC Sense or Touchwiz).. and is usually a cleaner and less buggy experience... Then the cyanogen team customizes and polishes features... (like menu infused theming instead of flashable zips..)
If you're too scared of bricking during experimental build testing, etc, this isn't the place for you...
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Will Cm7 on the epic have no CIQ?
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Sorry for the double post, the xda app submitted when open the physical keyboard. I too have been wondering what the big deal is with cm.. I can't find any concrete info that tells me what is so great about it. I'm on acs now and love it.
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Will Cm7 on the epic have no CIQ?
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It will not have CIQ. That is from Sprint, and this will have no traces of sprint whatsoever.
CM is completely customizable, it comes with all kinds of tweaks to make the phone a whole lot smoother, it gets updated constantly, and since its based on AOSP you can really do what ever you want with it. Whereas a stock samsung ROM you have to be careful what you do cause so many things rely on frame work and what not. The CM team is absolutely amazing the wrote code completely from scratch for $g and full HDMI mirroring to work on the evo. Also the size of the rom, CM is around 80 mb where most stock roms are 200, so you will have that much more space on the phone.
To set the record straight, I am hardly a "noob" in the sense that some here seem to think. I'm building kernels for my own use, and am working on a rewrite of the keyboard driver to more completely fix the problem so skillfully determined and patched by mkasick.
What I'm "noob" at is understanding in detail what I gain, and give up, by installing CM over the other custom ROMs based on stock releases. I have the broad strokes -- I need more specifics to decide if it's worth the hassle to give it a try.
We now have two new pieces of valuable information not obvious in any of the general info out there: Compromised video support (negative), no CIQ (positive). So, a little progress.
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i doubt anyone actually knows what you're asking....
Cyanogenmod is just pure android no bloatware from sprint/sammy
the way android was meant to be.
Pretty simple: If it is software that is added by a carrier or a manufacture (Sprint ID, touchWhiz, Samsungs Video Codecs) It will not be there. What it does have:
CM UI Tweaks, CM Hardware Tweaks, CM Performance enhancement options (adjustable heapsize) Default install location, Screen On Animation, Surface Dithering, Locking the Homescreen App in memory (so it doesn't rebuild it self when you press home), locking the messaging app in memory, DSP Audio Manager for Custom EQ setups over BT, Speaker, and head phones, Lock screen gestures, Lock screen music controls....
This is all of the top of my head.
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Pretty simple: If it is software that is added by a carrier or a manufacture (Sprint ID, touchWhiz, Samsungs Video Codecs) It will not be there. What it does have:
CM UI Tweaks, CM Hardware Tweaks, CM Performance enhancement options (adjustable heapsize) Default install location, Screen On Animation, Surface Dithering, Locking the Homescreen App in memory (so it doesn't rebuild it self when you press home), locking the messaging app in memory, DSP Audio Manager for Custom EQ setups over BT, Speaker, and head phones, Lock screen gestures, Lock screen music controls....
This is all of the top of my head.
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O O Don't forget the BJ's Feature
i even dumped my GF
There's a lot of misinformed posting going on in here.
First of all, CyanogenMod is NOT AOSP. It is, however, more AOSP than Samsung's or HTC's stock ROMs. It is based on AOSP and built from the ground-up, but AOSP it is not.
AOSP is the bones on which everything you see on Android is built. Some phones have true, pure AOSP builds, but we do not. The CyanogenMod project, once completely, will allow a build of AOSP to run on the Epic since they share all the same drivers, but, once again, that doesn't make CyanogenMod completely AOSP, as people so willingly say.
Now, what IS CyanogenMod?
The goal is quite simple: It aims to achieve a single user-experience across multiple platforms through the use of open-source software and alternatives. One thing you can expect from the base CyanogenMod experience is that if you are running CyanogenMod7-RC2 on your MyTouch 3G Slide, you can talk to you friend who is using CyanogenMod7-RC2 on his HTC Evo 4G and be able to completely understand everything each other's phone can provide (sans hardware differences, such as CPU speeds and front-facing camera).
It is also meant to open new doors for developers to completely customize their user experience. Every last part of the CyanogenMod experience is open source. That's how new features are almost constantly being added.
Another goal is to keep every phone up-to-date with the newest version of Android as it is rolled out. Providing a basic starting ground for every phone means that patching the Android system to the latest version is considerably easier. That's why, several times, I've mentioned that the work done by noobnl on CyanogenMod6 has helped us getting where we are with CyanogenMod7. While we are not using it verbatim, the work points us in the right direction and shows us how to easily fix what is broken.
People are asking questions like "Will program X be left in" or "Does this add X". The answers are a lot more complicated than just yes or no. The fact of the matter is that, for the most part, NOTHING from the stock Samsung software is included. Apps may resemble what was in your stock experience, but that's only because Samsung based their own software after their AOSP counterparts. With that said, none of Sprint's bloatware is on CyanogenMod. I'm not even sure the most of them would even work. Things like Nascar, Sprint TV, and the like just are not there because the system is not built around them, plain and simple.
Because of this lack of bloat, you are gaining much in the way of speed, performance, and usability. Carrier IQ isn't there to bog your phone down. Useless DRM services aren't running in the background, eating your battery. The Sprint Apps aren't taking up valuable space in your phone's memory. It's clean.
Another thing CyanogenMod will provide to the community is a basis to provide some real meaty ROMs. Right now, for the most part, the ROMs are reskins and rehashes of other ROMs, save two or three. Fight as you might, but that's the truth. CyanogenMod is completely different and will allow developers more control over what they are doing. A lot of cool features can be made, such as autoupdaters and random system tweaks, and they can all be built in. For example, if you look at CyanogenMod now, you'll notice that ADW is the default launcher, and its settings are integrated into the phone's settings instead of being a standalone.
And the beauty of it all is that everything can be made to work how you please. For those worried about the video codec problem, it's a problem that can be solved simply by making those codecs work on CyanogenMod, which shouldn't involve too much trickery.
I hope this answers your question.
I concur. You are really thinking too far into things. There are very few limitations that cm7 will bring. For all of these, there are other apps that rectify it.
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Thanks Devin for a great response. Why is it we needed development to come give a nice answer... and the rest of the users just wanted to be know it all jerks?
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Thanks Devin for a great response.
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agreed, thanks
Why is it we needed development to come give a nice answer... and the rest of the users just wanted to be know it all jerks?
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aww man, don't do that.. it doesn't really help anything, it just invites people to get all butt hurt about your being butt hurt about whatever the ****.. Just let it go.
My only question about CM is the obvious one.. "Is it done yet? (for my phone obviously)"
in this thread i want to read your views and suggestions about the best rom wich is for our beloved atrix.
waiting...?
I've just been using the stock AT&T Gingerbread Rom with LauncherPro installed. It makes navigating the homescreens and app drawer a much better (and smoother) experience. I'd like to try CM7 sometime but won't bother until its out of beta and Webtop is supported.
To answer your question, I've heard both Alien and Aura are good, but I haven't tried them personally.
It's better that using roms originated from stock if you are not friendly with custom roms.
CM7 is light & fast but it makes problem sometimes.
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in this thread i want to read your views and suggestions about the best rom wich is for our beloved atrix.
waiting...?
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try them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! see what one is best for you
Best Gingerbread ROMs: Darkside and Aura (not updated as much as Darkside)
Don't use Alien anymore.
RedPill is my favorite ROM though. If you don't need webtop then use RedPill. It's much better than CM7. Smoother, ICS transitions, certain tweaks that just make it plain better.
kshiuan said:
Best Gingerbread ROMs: Darkside and Aura (not updated as much as Darkside)
Don't use Alien anymore.
RedPill is my favorite ROM though. If you don't need webtop then use RedPill. It's much better than CM7. Smoother, ICS transitions, certain tweaks that just make it plain better.
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Not sure why you'd tell people not to use Alien...its one of the best ROMS available for our device. Is it older than a lot of the newer roms? Yes. But I've tried every rom available for this device, and keep going back to Alien. Why? Cause its still fast, does exactly what I need it to do, and the most important factor? Its STABLE. It just plain works. Until ICS or MIUI are ported over this will remain one or the best roms out there.
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Not to hijack this thread, but I am also looking for a better-than-stock ROM that still supports webtop and the other docking modes...The OP didn't say whether or not he wanted/needed that.
I've been looking through the descriptions of the various ROMs, and nothing has grabbed my attenion, except maybe CherryPi.
i am using an international Atrix and tried all of them (except ninja) and i have to say that my favourite is Homebase with honeyatrix theme. Its the fastest rom on my phone propably faster than cm7 and supports both fingerprint scanner and webtop.
it was a simle question just to see your opinions and to find out wich is the most popular rom for the atrix
Some one opened a thread like this before and it was closed down by Ken saying XDA doesn't allow "what's best" threads I would check the rules carefully and if you want to compare ROM just read the OP of each ROM and do the comparing yourself. Im Not trying to be rude or mean just trying to look out for our community. And im sure the way I put it was alot nicer than some of the people on here would of(The stuff I read on this forum wow...)
CM7 Newest Weekly faux123 1.45ghz, thanks AtriXDA Developers!!
^^Agreed^^ What is best for one is not best for all, threads like this have been closed in the past. If you want opinions on ROMS try maybe reading their threads.
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^^Agreed^^ What is best for one is not best for all, threads like this have been closed in the past. If you want opinions on ROMS try maybe reading their threads.
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+ 1 every forum I've been in "best rom" threads are not allowed!
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cjrhoades said:
I've just been using the stock AT&T Gingerbread Rom with LauncherPro installed. It makes navigating the homescreens and app drawer a much better (and smoother) experience. I'd like to try CM7 sometime but won't bother until its out of beta and Webtop is supported.
To answer your question, I've heard both Alien and Aura are good, but I haven't tried them personally.
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CM7 has been out of beta for quite some time now....
As for the OPs original question... the 'best' ROM is whatever you like the most... everyone has their own favorites. No single ROM can be labelled as the 'best'. They all have their own pros and cons, your best bet is to just unlock your bootloader, root, and experiment for yourself.
kshiuan said:
Best Gingerbread ROMs: Darkside and Aura (not updated as much as Darkside)
Don't use Alien anymore.
RedPill is my favorite ROM though. If you don't need webtop then use RedPill. It's much better than CM7. Smoother, ICS transitions, certain tweaks that just make it plain better.
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just fyi, I know you're new around here, but Darkside IS Aura rom. If development on Aura has slowed so has Darkside. The only difference is theme updates. Please check the changelogs before guessing in the future.
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just fyi, I know you're new around here, but Darkside IS Aura rom. If development on Aura has slowed so has Darkside. The only difference is theme updates. Please check the changelogs before guessing in the future.
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3rd post, WINNING.
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3rd post, WINNING.
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unless you disagree prove me wrong. changelogs are posted for a reason. CM7 is a completely different rom, so are ASOP roms, but ALIEN, AURA, DARKSIDE, are all form the motoblur series, with the difference in DARKSIDE, starting directly off of AURA's shoulders.
v2.1
Fixed: Account FCs
Fixed: Talk on 3G (I think)
Updated: Aura 1.2.1.3 Scripts
Updated: hosts (Ad-Blocking)
Updated: Gmail, Market, SuperUser
Added/Restored: DLNA, Blur Account Authenticators, Task Manager, Files, BlurSetup, Music 4.0.1, Videos, News & Weather
Themed: BlurCamera, Settings
Updated: Camera thumbnail now calls 3D Gallery (Thanks to bullghost)
Removed: HDMI from Settings until a fix is found
Tweaked: SystemUI, LatinIME, Others
v2.0
EXT4 Formatting
Re-based on Aura 1.2.1.1 By Diviance.
App Install Location Option Added
Theme Tweaks
Many Useless Apps Removed
Updated to Faux123 v2.0 Kernel (1.3Ghz)
Other Things I Forgot
*****TRIMMED
edit: compare AURA's full feature list to DARKSIDE's. CM7 on the other hand is actually a completely separate rom.
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unless you disagree prove me wrong.
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^^thats^^ all I read out of your post. I have no desire to start splitting hairs over ROMs. I dont think its a stretch to say for that NetTheter's third post he is on point. Just saying.
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^^thats^^ all I read out of your post. I have no desire to start splitting hairs over ROMs. I dont think its a stretch to say for that NetTheter's third post he is on point. Just saying.
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haha thanks, I just wanted to remove FUD that's thrown around in the forums here. It seems our general audience here requires the color red on a theme to start calling the entire rom fantastic and pushing other roms below.
I am not here for the pissing match.
ALL Android Roms are based on AOSP.
AOSP is the source that all Android Roms are built from.
CM7 is based on AOSP.
CM7 = AOSP + CM7 parts and tweaks minus the manufacturer and carrier bloat.
Motorolas 4.591 blur roms are also based on AOSP
Alien\Darkside\etc = alot of work
All of the Blur Roms are built on Moto ATT 4.5.91 with blur.
These dev's have tweaked 4.5.91 removing blur and adding aosp apk's and framework hacks to deblur the blur roms. also alot of other tweaks.
All of the BLUR/AOSP/CM7 Rom devs in the Atrix Dev Threads deserve a lot of big thanks on their threads. They have listened to all of the requests and demands and built just want you wanted. I do not know how many hours I have spent in logcat
Please read each of the Rom features and Donate to the Atrix Rom Dev's that provided "the rom you like the most" ..... please buy them a few beers.
joe ferreira said:
I am not here for the pissing match.
ALL Android Roms are based on AOSP.
AOSP is the source that all Android Roms are built from.
CM7 is based on AOSP.
CM7 = AOSP + CM7 parts and tweaks minus the manufacturer and carrier bloat.
Motorolas 4.591 blur roms are also based on AOSP
Alien\Darkside\etc = alot of work
All of the Blur Roms are built on Moto ATT 4.5.91 with blur.
These dev's have tweaked 4.5.91 removing blur and adding aosp apk's and framework hacks to deblur the blur roms. also alot of other tweaks.
All of the BLUR/AOSP/CM7 Rom devs in the Atrix Dev Threads deserve a lot of big thanks on their threads. They have listened to all of the requests and demands and built just want you wanted. I do not know how many hours I have spent in logcat
Please read each of the Rom features and Donate to the Atrix Rom Dev's that provided "the rom you like the most" ..... please buy them a few beers.
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try not to take things so literaly. You'll get further in life. AOSP as in pure.
OFC ALL ROMS ARE BASED ON AOSP. however blurred/sensed/wized roms are the vanilla rom with malware, garbage running on top. Bull**** that you can live out and honestly your phone performance just suffers from the "extra's".
However other than some minor tweaks in AURA/ALIEN they are AOSP + BLUR + MODS.
Oh and DARKSIDE is AKA AURA + RED THEME, plus anything else he can scrape from the forums. As I read in other threads, he's not a developer but a "blender". Dev's are one that bring innovation to the scene and not simply copying and pasting mods all into one clay ball.
This is a poll thread where you can freely state your facts and opinions on your favorite type of ROM (Sammy-based ROM, MIUI or CM)
This is also a thread for the people who want to know what kinds of ROMs are being used worldwide.
IF you want, you can even comment down below and say why you like them
I use MIUI myself, but I did come from a Sammy-based ROM and even tried CM for a few weeks.
Voice your opinions, and let us know why!
**Sammy-based ROM = stock as well
If you happen to want to try the ROM type which you are not using, click on the links below.
Sammy-based ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204
MIUI-based ROMs:
http://www.miuiandroid.com/
http://www.miui.us/
http://www.miui.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455731
CyanogenMod:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366341
This thread is NOT a question, just a poll. I don't want to post a favorite ROM post because new ROMs get released by the day and its hard to keep up ^_^
I haven't tried MIUI yet, so I won't vote. But I've been playing with the stable version of Cyanogen Mod for a week now and like it. It's heads and shoulders better than the stock ROM.
CM-based ROMS are nice, but video hardware decoding support is spotty. I use my phone to play 1080p/720p videos quite often, which are often unwatchable using software decoders. So I have no choice but to stick with Samsung-based ROMs for now...
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CM-based ROMS are nice, but video hardware decoding support is spotty. I use my phone to play 1080p/720p videos quite often, which are often unwatchable using software decoders. So I have no choice but to stick with Samsung-based ROMs for now...
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Incorrect, try Dice Player. It's fantastic and by far superior then Sammy stock.
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what is this MIU thingy
Woohoo! Another thread where I can freely state my opinion. Jolly good!
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Woohoo! Another thread where I can freely state my opinion. Jolly good!
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Lol agree with u fella. To @OP
I like roms that are already in the android development.
But on a serious note if we all voted on a best rom everyone would be using that. You are only going to get different opinions. But good luck anyway.
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I never tried MIUI because it looks to me like a clone of iPhone, when I want iPhone I buy iPhone...
I used CM7 because of its configuration options and theme chooser, hope CM9 will get them too...
I've tried all of them.
I prefer Samsung based ROMs at this time. They just seem to be the smoothest, most reliable ROMs which is not a surprise really. I did go through a phase where almost everything was stock but I've gone back to Go Launcher and Go SMS as I found the Samsung launcher too limiting (even though it is smooth, though Go Launcher isn't far behind) and the same can be said for the Sammy SMS app, also I find it a little slower than Go SMS in terms of responsiveness.
Cyanogen ROMs I feel do not run as fluidly as Samsung ROMs, and generally contain more bugs. As another poster said, they lack some of the codec support of the Samsung ROMs. Also, and I realise you can change this with themes etc, but the AOSP Android is a bit bland, at least in pre-ICS form. And CM9 simply isn't ready yet as a daily driver IMO. I look forward to revisiting CM9 when it is more polished.
MIUI ROMs I really like in terms of features. Everything you need is there out of the box, however, I find them resource hogs, and go a step further again than Cyanogen in not running as fluidly. You can see this when jumping from screen to screen or navigating menus, it feels like I am running an old Nexus One again in terms of speed. It just isn't fluid. This was a while ago so maybe things have changed. If they sorted these issues out, it could be the most fantastic ROM.
So Samsung ROM for me at the moment.
Suarez7 said:
Lol agree with u fella. To @OP
I like roms that are already in the android development.
But on a serious note if we all voted on a best rom everyone would be using that. You are only going to get different opinions.
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Well, I dont see how this post is the same as those noob questions on whats the best rom you see, if i posted one of those questions, it would be all those "there is no such thing as a best rom, only what fits you" kind of answers all over the place. This is only trying to get people to know what kind of ROMs we are all running, and also its the kind of stats that gets people knowing how many people are using what kind of rom.
hehehe and also you wrote android development, meaning you like Sammy-based ROMs, should have just entered it in the poll.
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Woohoo! Another thread where I can freely state my opinion. Jolly good!
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As stated, you don't have to write why you like it, just click on what you use in the poll, and people who are actually interested would actually care about the stats. No ROM discussion is required if the repliers don't want to reply. Just a poll.
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Aosp every time.
Cheers
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Well, I dont see how this post is the same as those noob questions on whats the best rom you see, if i posted one of those questions, it would be all those "there is no such thing as a best rom, only what fits you" kind of answers all over the place. This is only trying to get people to know what kind of ROMs we are all running, and also its the kind of stats that gets people knowing how many people are using what kind of rom.
hehehe and also you wrote android development, meaning you like Sammy-based ROMs, should have just entered it in the poll.
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true Sir i did not see the poll you already had above as i was on the phone. but anyhow android development is not just sammy based roms you have MIUI in there plus CM7 like builds and ICS but personally for me..I like so far yes you got it right Sammy based roms....But as soon source code gets released and Siyah is out for CM9 and they get it more stable i am making the leap straight away....
Cheers...Still find this pointless thread but anywhoo
I also prefer stock ROM's.
Not to ditch efforts of all custom ROM makers, but two reasons my stock preference. I really don't trust enough to 3rd party applications much. That's even true for my desktop computer.
Second of all, I'm a bit lazy to deal with any problems, bugs or other stuff that may occur and obviously more chance of bricking phone with 3rd parties.
Third reason unlike most, I really like TouchWiz and additions that Samsung did over standard Android. I have two other Android based devices, one of them is default, other is HTC. I know they lack a lot of free utilities and touch & feel, (and no Sense does not cut it)
alsgrigorjevs said:
Incorrect, try Dice Player. It's fantastic and by far superior then Sammy stock.
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I should have mentioned that I used MX Video Player, which falls back to SW Codecs 70% of the time. Gonna do a quick install of CM7 and see what you say about Dice Player is true.
Logi_Ca1 said:
I should have mentioned that I used MX Video Player, which falls back to SW Codecs 70% of the time. Gonna do a quick install of CM7 and see what you say about Dice Player is true.
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Does MX video player rely on samsung codecs? because I use it with my stock rom and the latest versions play almost everything in Hw decoders.
Older versions used to play some video files in sw decoders , but now everything is hardware accelerated and I even use it instead of the default player.
So my understanding is that if an update made the app support more video formats in Hw decoding mode ,then it should be indpendent of the rom we're using ,right?
Anorexic stock for me. Never liked MIUI, and appreciate the stability/100% functionality of stock over CM every time.
Used the ROM kitchen on my SGS1, got used to having no bloat, and haven't looked back since.
The ROM in my sig ticks all my boxes.
I like Samsung Roms firstly for the Email app for my Company's exchange account. Also for the Enchansed camera app, for the BEST stability and Siyah Kernel for Speed and Battery life!
I voted for cyanogen, but honestly the best ROM is always the one I just flashed :laugh:
160dpi stock Sammy rom for me
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Official ROMs
Am I totally missing something with these 2 roms? They seemed to be all the rage and everyone's is so happy we have them, but I don't see what's so great. Both threads for these list numerous bugs and issues. The CM7 has a nightly update for god's sake! If it needs nightly updates it sounds like it doesn't work all that great. And MIUI looks like an iphone.
I'm not trying to start a riot in here either lol. I just don't see what the hype is for.
I would suggest trying them for yourself before knocking them To answer your question in a short manner. The answer is options. You have numerous options and tweaks on both roms that you won't find anywhere else. CM blazes through everything for the most part. MIUI, I hear that iphone excuse all the time. With all the mtz files there are you can make it look like anything you want to. Mix n match like no other rom. Look at the threads started by me and you will see one called "One Stop Shop" with some good info on MIUI.
---Jay---
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Am I totally missing something with these 2 roms? They seemed to be all the rage and everyone's is so happy we have them, but I don't see what's so great. Both threads for these list numerous bugs and issues. The CM7 has a nightly update for god's sake! If it needs nightly updates it sounds like it doesn't work all that great. And MIUI looks like an iphone.
I'm not trying to start a riot in here either lol. I just don't see what the hype is for.
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Whoops. You got a free thanks
Anyways, if u want a shorter answer instead of reading thru these 2 paragraphs, either read Jay's response above, and/or drop to the last paragraph in my response.
Now, let's begin with CM7. We are an officially supported CM7 device, but we still do not have a close to 100% RC yet. There are still some very small quirks that need work, hence, nightlies. All nightlies are, are EXPERIMENTAL builds that contain the most recent advancements. They may or may not be as stable as an RC, which means they can both include fixes, and bugs. The reason for the hype if because its an AOSP ROM. Some ppl aren't very fond of Samsung's TW UI and would rather run on AOSP. The other side to that is updates. We were "lucky" to receive official GB, but we probably won't be "lucky" with ICS, which its safe to say, we will eventually be receiving thanks to CM and our CM Team.
As for MIUI, its based off of CM. This ROM is better known for a greater "customizable" experience. With MIUI you get a similar AOSP experience except with more themes. With MIUI you are able to choose a specific theme for SMS, another theme for the dialer, and another for contacts, etc. So you can basically mix n match themes here n there. The things with MIUI is that it kinda "piggybacks" on CM's proggress, so updates will come a bit after our CM ROMs/Kernels are updated.
****Bottom line: CM7 & MIUI offer a minimilistic AOSP experience, including support, which may or may not include updates that could extend your phones lifespan****
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The nightly updates are feature updates.
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Ceelos09 said:
****Bottom line: CM7 & MIUI offer a minimilistic AOSP experience, including support, which may or may not include updates that could extend your phones lifespan****
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You just earned a thanks
---Jay---
I wasn't knocking them, just didn't see the overwhelming hype. Thanks for the info though. I do love an AOSP rom and use them often. at the moment I am running the clean GB which is sort of aosp. I didn't know about the MIUI themes, that might be interesting if i can get away from the iphone feel.
I am looking forward to the CM9 ICS rom.. now THAT i will be excited about lol.
thanks for the info everyone.
goblue30093 said:
Am I totally missing something with these 2 roms? They seemed to be all the rage and everyone's is so happy we have them, but I don't see what's so great. Both threads for these list numerous bugs and issues. The CM7 has a nightly update for god's sake! If it needs nightly updates it sounds like it doesn't work all that great. And MIUI looks like an iphone.
I'm not trying to start a riot in here either lol. I just don't see what the hype is for.
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The nightly updates are a feature, not a bug, CyanogenMod is supported by at least 20 different devices, with heavy development on just the base code too, when something for our device, or something in the base code is updated, it is immediately released every night so that everyone is completely current with the latest features and bugfixes
My personal favorite enhancements that were brought with CM7 are Themes that change immediately (No restarts needed, or a visit to clockwork), hundreds of themes available at a moments download from the market (or xda and other places), DSP sound enhancement, moving the status bar to the bottom of the screen (really handy, right by the buttons), performance-wise it is top notch (besides a few bugs that don't really effect me), gestures on the lockscreen (write a G and BAM gmail), Swipe to remove notifications, and I could go on...
Point is, Touchwiz can lick my ***, it offers nothing to me that isn't done better in CM7...
Never used MIUI before, so I dunno about that one...
goblue30093 said:
I wasn't knocking them, just didn't see the overwhelming hype. Thanks for the info though. I do love an AOSP rom and use them often. at the moment I am running the clean GB which is sort of aosp. I didn't know about the MIUI themes, that might be interesting if i can get away from the iphone feel.
I am looking forward to the CM9 ICS rom.. now THAT i will be excited about lol.
thanks for the info everyone.
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I'm looking forward to MIUI4 You can always run adw, go, etc., over miui if you want. There is also an app called "altdrawer" that I have linked, if you want to keep all the miui mtz icons and launcher.
---Jay---
I wouldn't use MIUI for the Epic4g (Even though MIUI itself is great) due to bugs.
However, CM7 and eventually CM9 are something I'd highly recommend on any device supported.
Do some research, use Google. Cyanogen Mod has a website itself full of information.
Both represent things that Samsung and Sprint consider not possible with this device.
CM giving you the pure Google experience minus all the Touch Wiz/carrier/Sammy bloat.
MIUI which was/is a very popular ROM across quite a few platforms showing yet another stripped down, minimal experience.
As far as nightlies go... That is progress in the works. Things get implemented, tested by users and then tweaked/fixed/eliminated as the product progresses forward.
I think the best thing ever is CM9 coming to the Epic 4g. This shows that Sammy and Sprint are full of it when it comes to ICS-Android 4.0 on this device. CM team deserves a huge pat on the back for making this happen.
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As for MIUI, its based off of CM. This ROM is better known for a greater "customizable" experience. With MIUI you get a similar AOSP experience except with more themes. With MIUI you are able to choose a specific theme for SMS, another theme for the dialer, and another for contacts, etc. So you can basically mix n match themes here n there. The things with MIUI is that it kinda "piggybacks" on CM's proggress, so updates will come a bit after our CM ROMs/Kernels are updated.
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Thanks for that write up. I got CM, but didnt get MIUI. I was thinking it was a CM clone that lagged behind CM in updates, and was made to look like an iPhone.
Your explanation clears up my confusion rather nicely!
I have ran the last 15 cm7 nightlies and they are pretty solid other than a few volume issues I haven't had problems. I am currently trying out miui and it's nice. Packed full of options and everything is working well for me. Miui can be made to look any way u want. I have a gs2 lock screen, some ics theming, s2 boot animation. GPS got a 2 meter lock first try...no complaints
The reason for all of the bug reports is because they're in development threads - we'd be preaching to the choir if we always reported on the benefits (the developers know those things, that's why they took up the porting project). It doesn't mean that the rom sucks, not by any means
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Definitely doesn't suck. To the op...make a backup and try out some stuff. Clean gb is not aosp some tw still there. I oddly like tw bit having variety has brought life back into the epic. I was sure it would be a dead phone until recently when I found out cm and miui became available. Whether people like it or not...once these developers came aboard it helps the entire development process.
Best argument for CM7, as someone already mentioned, is the nightly updates. Remember how long it took to get Froyo? It was due to Sprint/Samsung adding their bloat. Cyanogenmod eliminates those 2 middle men. Thank you devs.
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I was exactlyyyyyyy like youuu
Until I flashed cm7 and seen how amazing it really is
I still do think about other tw roms tho cuz every rom is unique and amazing in its own way
But cm7 it really great you could literally do anything u want there's settings for everythingg and themes in the market is amazing
And I never tried miui but as soon as it gets 4g ill b one of the first ppl to flash it lol
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I wont whore up this thread but my gripe w cm7 currently is the camera and the volume bug. Its tolerable but damn the camera takes a while to open compared to tw and the volume bug, since I use speaker phone a lot is rather annoying. Still fantastic work. Almost there and its so close. It weird how the volume bug only attacks calls. Media volume control is perfect. But whatever, they will get it. Had this phone since launch day and been Modding it since then lol. This is the best time for the epic now that so many options are available
As a couple others have stated, my only gripe with CM7 is the volume issue on phone calls. If that ever gets squashed, it's damn near perfect for me. My phone runs so much smoother and faster on CM, and the amount of options available to customize your phone (profiles, themes, quiet hours, interface tweaks, etc) makes it even more worth it. I was a CleanGB user for a long time until recently as it is my favorite TW based ROM out there until it ceased being so "clean" with all the continued added stuff so I made the jump to at least try CM (especially since Toad made an MTD version of CleanGB to ease flashing back and forth) and haven't looked back.
goblue30093 said:
Am I totally missing something with these 2 roms? They seemed to be all the rage and everyone's is so happy we have them, but I don't see what's so great. Both threads for these list numerous bugs and issues. The CM7 has a nightly update for god's sake! If it needs nightly updates it sounds like it doesn't work all that great. And MIUI looks like an iphone.
I'm not trying to start a riot in here either lol. I just don't see what the hype is for.
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There's so many nightlies because of new features being added, new improvements if you want something stable but miss all the goodies then stick with a stock rom. Simple as that man. MIUI I do agree is iPhonish but does have android implemented but I don't care for it good to those who have it but that's my opinion. And CM7 is a great AOSP rom no will ever be able to beat it
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Cm7 is great with all the added features and the fact that installing a new theme is one market search away, but its not the end all be all of all roms imo! I do like it but I like all of the ei22 tw roms also... my favorite is the viper rom (for now) and imo it is better than cm7... great battery life and super snappy... I haven't tried cm7 since the rc0 w/ wimax hit so I am probably missing out though.. I know a lot has been fixed since then but I just can't bring myself to flash it yet... cm9 will be the end all be all for me! Looks amazing in the videos, can't wait!!!
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