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[Q] Voodoo lag fix - Still lagging/hanging?

Just wondering how many people are still seeing significant lag or freezing even with Voodoo installed? Mine was was hanging and lagging pretty bad over time and uninstalling apps, doing battery pulls was not helping for long. Didn't seem specific to any particular thing either.

Datalux said:
Just wondering how many people are still seeing significant lag or freezing even with Voodoo installed? Mine was was hanging and lagging pretty bad over time and uninstalling apps, doing battery pulls was not helping for long. Didn't seem specific to any particular thing either.
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Application lag is pretty normal. /data != /system

namebrandon said:
Application lag is pretty normal. /data != /system
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Yes but there is no writing to system so lag there should be minimal. I was having issues too, until I figured out it was the ram tweaking app doing it.
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This phone sucks I miss my nexus one
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Feel free not to share if thats all you can contribute.

adrynalyne said:
Yes but there is no writing to system so lag there should be minimal.
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Datalux said:
Mine was was hanging and lagging pretty bad over time and uninstalling apps, doing battery pulls was not helping for long. Didn't seem specific to any particular thing either.
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Valid point.. I was thrown off by the OP's grammar. My initial understanding was that lag was experienced during the uninstall of apps. I see, now, that he meant that uninstalling the apps didn't help with his lag.

My culprit was http://www.appbrain.com/app/autokiller-memory-optimizer/com.rs.autokiller
Which makes me sad because I made a sizeable donation to the dev.

iifuzz said:
This phone sucks I miss my nexus one
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I miss my Nexus as well, but am happy with my fascinate. It's a superior device, just needs some froyo pushed so the dev magic can begin in earnest.
Honestly, if they rolled out an N1 on verizon, I wouldn't change, I just wish Samsung would get off their asses with the update already.
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adrynalyne said:
My culprit was http://www.appbrain.com/app/autokiller-memory-optimizer/com.rs.autokiller
Which makes me sad because I made a sizeable donation to the dev.
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What exactly is auto killer doing? I've been running it as well as auto start killer since day 1 on mine without a problem.
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namebrandon said:
Valid point.. I was thrown off by the OP's grammar. My initial understanding was that lag was experienced during the uninstall of apps. I see, now, that he meant that uninstalling the apps didn't help with his lag.
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Sorry for the poor wording - I was having issues just unlocking the screen if the browser or another app had been left on screen/running when it turned off. Sometime moving from one app to another then to another would do it and sometimes just opening something like Tweetdeck or Tapatalk from the home screen with nothing else running would do it. I was getting complete hangs lasting 30-40 sec. I don't use any task killers and had pared apps down to about 6 or 7 and was still getting unbearable lag - much worse than I ever had without Voodoo.
Just my experience so YMMV - just thought we could consolidate the issue with a poll since I was seeing similar comments in various threads but no real consensus on the issue.

Daswolven said:
What exactly is auto killer doing? I've been running it as well as auto start killer since day 1 on mine without a problem.
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Causes periodic hangs/lags for lengths of 5-6 seconds.

adrynalyne said:
Causes periodic hangs/lags for lengths of 5-6 seconds.
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After you took that off did it clear up the lag issues? Because I put that on the same night you did in IRC. Might have to put voodoo back on if autokiller is what was causing it all along. Just seemed to get slower day by day without a restart but I would love it if the app was the issue
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Curious about the autokiller settings you were using. I leave it on default with aggressive as secondary when my screen sleeps. Haven't had any lag whatsoever with anything. I know sometimes things are device specific, but was just curious how you nailed this as the culprit.
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Daswolven said:
Curious about the autokiller settings you were using. I leave it on default with aggressive as secondary when my screen sleeps. Haven't had any lag whatsoever with anything. I know sometimes things are device specific, but was just curious how you nailed this as the culprit.
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I was using the settings that curio put on his twitter. I know that wasn't towards me but I think Adrynalyne was using these too. But I could be wrong.
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I tried Curio's settings, as well as aggressive, and one other....
I nailed it down because I froze it with Titanium, which stopped it on startup and my phone started working 10000% better. I was this || close to uninstalling voodoo as the problem.

Did you try the "optimal" setting?

The settings arent the problem. The app is.

I'm not even sure why people think they need these task killers. This phone runs like lightning with just Voodoo.
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s44 said:
I'm not even sure why people think they need these task killers. This phone runs like lightning with just Voodoo.
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Knee jerk reactions suck, dude.
Read up on what the app is...

adrynalyne said:
My culprit was http://www.appbrain.com/app/autokiller-memory-optimizer/com.rs.autokiller
Which makes me sad because I made a sizeable donation to the dev.
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Wow thank you sooooo much. I've been using this since day one and thought all my phone issues were Samsung-related.
I just removed it and for the past couple hours I've experienced some of the best performance ever. I'm sad it took this long to get to this point, but oh well, time to enjoy...

slow downs

hey so my gf has a desire z mostly because I convinced her android is the way to go, and she loves it, but recently she has been frustrated because every once in a while, usually when she uses the default messaging app or widget, it will slow way down and/or freeze, and take a few minutes to sort itself out, I suggested try handcent cause it may clean that up, but since then it has continued to happen, any suggestions? thanks!
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carmanj16 said:
hey so my gf has a desire z mostly because I convinced her android is the way to go, and she loves it, but recently she has been frustrated because every once in a while, usually when she uses the default messaging app or widget, it will slow way down and/or freeze, and take a few minutes to sort itself out, I suggested try handcent cause it may clean that up, but since then it has continued to happen, any suggestions? thanks!
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Rooted? Over clocked? What rom?

carmanj16 said:
hey so my gf has a desire z mostly because I convinced her android is the way to go, and she loves it, but recently she has been frustrated because every once in a while, usually when she uses the default messaging app or widget, it will slow way down and/or freeze, and take a few minutes to sort itself out, I suggested try handcent cause it may clean that up, but since then it has continued to happen, any suggestions? thanks!
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Reboot with pulling the battery out? Many apps on it?

If you're unsure whats causing the slowdown, I'd download Watchdog Lite and see what apps are taking up the most CPU/RAM and see if removing or fixing issues with these apps will change anything.

I haven't done anything extra for her to it, no rooting, all she has done is the ovta 2.2.1 update and download apps, just simple ones like backgrounds, schedules/notes, and games, and okay thanks I'll try downloading that app to see
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When having that version of Android I had some slow downs when using animated wallpapers, they clogged the memory also until it froze. Using normal, steady backgrounds took care of it.
I also have advanced task manager installed (free from market), it has a widget, clicking on it frees memory and speeds up the phone.
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I like the wallpaper idea but I have heard from many places that task killers use more battery cause most apps will just start up again, but if it stops the freezing maybe it's a necessary trade off
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Yeah, Froyo is supposed to be much better with ram management so task managers are not required. Its very likely to be a misbehaving app in the background.
Failing that, factory reset to rule out an failed ota.
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How many text messages does she have on the phone? I think this is a known issue, for people with a ridiculous mount of SMS messages.

carmanj16 said:
I like the wallpaper idea but I have heard from many places that task killers use more battery cause most apps will just start up again, but if it stops the freezing maybe it's a necessary trade off
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Don't use task managers. They're unnecessary and like you said can hurt more than they help more often than not.
Check out an app like Watchdog, that doesn't kill anything it'll just show you if something is eating too much CPU, so you can remove or change it. Also, lots of messages or long long threads can slow it down too.

so I got her to use watch dog and she just texted me saying that it popped up and messaging was over the cs threshold, and I do think she has a ton of messages, I'll tell her that deleting them could fix it, thanks!
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carmanj16 said:
so I got her to use watch dog and she just texted me saying that it popped up and messaging was over the cs threshold, and I do think she has a ton of messages, I'll tell her that deleting them could fix it, thanks!
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You can customize what the threshold is. I think its like 20% or 30% by default. Kinda surprising that very rarely happens. If she deletes all messages and it still happens I'm really not sure.

She has a desire z. Its sense slowing it down. Not android. I remember this happening to me when i use to have it. Root that badboy and slap cyanogen mod on it. I can guarantee you it'll be waaay faster, not to mention the battery life will be better.
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Alex530 said:
She has a desire z. Its sense slowing it down. Not android. I remember this happening to me when i use to have it. Root that badboy and slap cyanogen mod on it. I can guarantee you it'll be waaay faster, not to mention the battery life will be better.
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While the Sense launcher is a bit laggy and resource hungry, it sounds like the OP has something going on far beyond just Sense. Sense itself does not cause the Messaging app to lockup for minutes, and it seems to be a problem that has developed over time.

My personal preference is "System Monitor". It doesn't kill anything and does everything watchdog and a little more. It costs tho

redpoint73 said:
While the Sense launcher is a bit laggy and resource hungry, it sounds like the OP has something going on far beyond just Sense. Sense itself does not cause the Messaging app to lockup for minutes, and it seems to be a problem that has developed over time.
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Trust me i know what im talking about. Its happened to me before. I've seen it happen when my friend lend me his evo. The messaging app is garbage on sense.
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just talked to her so she can delete her 5000 built up messages, she says she likes sense though...i am not a fan but what ever lol
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carmanj16 said:
just talked to her so she can delete her 5000 built up messages, she says she likes sense though...i am not a fan but what ever lol
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5000? holy ****...

Alex530 said:
Trust me i know what im talking about. Its happened to me before. I've seen it happen when my friend lend me his evo. The messaging app is garbage on sense.
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You were previously talking about flashing CM7. If the HTC SMS app is indeed the problem, you don't need to flash a new ROM to get away from it. Yes, the HTC SMS app is not great, but neither is the stock AOSP one. I've been using the stock Sense ROM for the most part since December, with Chomp SMS and see absolutely no slow down. Plus, I've tried CM7 and other ROMs, and there is no significant affect on battery life. If the OP's GF wants to stay on Sense, its really overkill to recommend ROM flashing. Its pretty apparent from the most recent posts deleting some messages will likely fix the problem.

carmanj16 said:
just talked to her so she can delete her 5000 built up messages, she says she likes sense though...i am not a fan but what ever lol
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5000 is a bit much. If its just a case of not being bothered to delete old messages (I have the same problem, but delete in the hundreds still) I could recommend the "Delete old messages" function which will automatically keep the thread down to size.
Craig

Spd shell 3d

Anybody using spd shell 3d? And if so, what are your thoughts on it?
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I hate it. I think it's ugly and pretty much useless.

Really, I love it. So much better than the stock UI.
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i would love it if it wasnt so freaking expensive for a home replacement. -_- nonsense. i just use ADW EX, its pretty amzing

stratax said:
i would love it if it wasnt so freaking expensive for a home replacement. -_- nonsense. i just use ADW EX, its pretty amzing
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I'm with you. I really like it but hate that the contacts only show all cool and stuff with your gmail account, that I don't have pics etc in...
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I use it... very responsive and the best looking Home replacement if you ask me. I don't have any problems with it and it seems super fast on my phone.
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I've never used it on the Atrix. Bought it when it came out. but it just drained my Desire!
Plus i have always prefered a more stock look. But no denying its really smooth and has fantastic looks.

I use it as well, i like the look of it, it really has some cool eye candy. I haven't noticed too much of a battery drain, wish it had some more widgets though

I have been using it March. I have no complaints. I switch launchers from time to time to try something else but I always come back to sod shell 3d. Espierlauncher is the only other launcher I like on the atrix and I use that to make my wife and friends mad since they all have iPhones. I am running. CM7 and I don't see any extra battery drain with this launcher. Assonance as they make it available for tablets my eeepad will be running it
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Today's updated added support for tablets! Looks and runs great on my GTab 10.1

I have it and like it but not as much as the cheaper launchers
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It sucks. It randomly closes and then when hitting home button has to reload. Too bad because everything else works top notch and its amazing looking.
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Phalanx7621 said:
It sucks. It randomly closes and then when hitting home button has to reload. Too bad because everything else works top notch and its amazing looking.
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I don't remember it ever closing on me but it's been some time since I've ran it. I've been sticking with adwex
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I used it way back when I had Windows Mobile and I loved it, but for some reason I don't feel it's the same on Android.
Don't get me wrong, it runs good on the Atrix, but it feels like overkill for a launcher.
Maybe if it had more useful widgets I would give it another try.
I always come back to Launcher Pro.
PS. Btw, it's real name is SPB Mobile Shell 3D ;-)
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I've been using it on nd off cause it have to freeze my market to use it, its OK but does need more of its own customization and that price is not gettin paid by me lol got the Google search discount
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So you promote warez?
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Lol not wise to advertise "google search discount"
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Oh well I did. I'm not paying 15$ for a launcher regardless specially this one its got a few nice Widgets yea true but wat is so special that makes it cost 3-4x as much as others ?
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I'd like to try it, but I could never justify $15.00 for a home replacement launcher or almost anything in the app market.

It is a nice launcher, but how customizable it isn't keeps me from using it regularly. Not to mention it frequently crashes with no error, just a black screen then says 'SPB shell is loading...' Navigation and transitions are generic and redundant in some cases. Most of the SPB widgets look nice, but leave a lot to be desired. Updates are infrequent and all the major problems have yet to be resolved.
Its a nice product to demonstrate a futuristic-looking phone but in terms of functionality, it's like putting the steering wheel in the glovebox of a car.
If you haven't checked out Go Launcher recently, I highly encourage it. 100% free, developers update the app at a feverish pace, and it is amazingly customizable.

An interesting development on the laggy app drawer issue

I know I'm not the only one with the problem of the laggy app drawer. When you first open it, it's perfectly smooth. Then, if you leave it alone for a second and use it again, it's extremely slow. It happens on any Acer-based rom, including unrooted stock.
Well, here's an interesting fact: This only happens with a static wallpaper. The issue goes away with a live wallpaper.
Why is this happening? Is it a problem with the launcher or the rom?
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Electrodeath0 said:
I know I'm not the only one with the problem of the laggy app drawer. When you first open it, it's perfectly smooth. Then, if you leave it alone for a second and use it again, it's extremely slow. It happens on any Acer-based rom, including unrooted stock.
Well, here's an interesting fact: This only happens with a static wallpaper. The issue goes away with a live wallpaper.
Why is this happening? Is it a problem with the launcher or the rom?
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Wow, that is interesting.
I have noticed that some people experience this issue, and some of them don't. My app drawer does get slow and laggy, but its more just a bit choppy than anything else. It doesn't really bother me so I never worried about it too much.

To be honest, I hadn't noticed that either. However, based on your description, it sounds like the live wallpaper prevents the cpu governor from underclocking (by virtue of the fact that it's more cpu-intensive, thus requiring the cpu to operate at a higher clock), thus preventing initial lag. Just hazarding a guess, though.

finally a thread about this. Here's what I know. I don't think its the CPU scaling because I've tried to fix this. It still happens even when I force it to 1.4 ghz+ the only rom without this problem is virtuous xoom. And it doenst seem to be the launcher. I've tried swapping them around

stock rooted 3.2 and cant make it happan, using reg walpapper. Did not see on previous versions.

I have seen this on other 3.2 tablets... I assume its a gpu thing or just a bug in 3.2
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Sounds like the problem is on Acer's end. Email time!
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looks like it is hc 3.2 issue - i wasn't experiencing this on hc 3.1 roms
i was trying as well find out the reason...
only thing what i found out - when the lag is there - killing any of running apss will kill the lag for some seconds as well and the app drawer become smooth again.
tested with quick system info pro.

Its the otherway round for me.......the app drawer lags a lot when i use live wallpaper and lags a little less when i use a static wallpaper....i think it depends on the kind of (live or static) wallpaper used on the device.....
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It just always lags for me, but as I said earlier, it isn't enough to piss me off or anything. It's only a slight lag.

Everytime I see lag I just tell myself ics will be open source and one of our fine devs will make this awesome
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Curious
I dont have a app drawer that lags but out of curiosity would someone with a laggy app drawer plug in a mouse to their unit and scroll the app drawer using that mouse. See if it makes a difference.

app draw lag
Could you explain app draw lag for me please?

Here are a few helpful hints to minimize lag

1. Disable animations
Sure, you might miss some of the fancy animations and stuff, but it really does help out in the end to make lag go away
2. Install nova launcher
This is important! Nova launcher is quite excellent on this device from my experience. Absolutely zero lag, 60fps buttery smoothness! Plus customization

So Nova helps a lot?

100% helps

It may or may not help, but before I make Nova my default launcher, I remove all the widgets from the stock launcher.
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Just freeze your default launcher with titanium. That way nova is the only launcher.
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No Lag
I have no lag at all, it's fast and beautiful

Personally I haven't really experienced a need to speed up the device. Some of the apps are kind of slow, but I've ditched s notes and lecture notes seems to be just fine.
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Actually I have noticed that copying a stuff to your clipboard as being slower than it was on the 2012 model.

alex94kumar said:
100% helps
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alex94kumar said:
1. Disable animations
Sure, you might miss some of the fancy animations and stuff, but it really does help out in the end to make lag go away
2. Install nova launcher
This is important! Nova launcher is quite excellent on this device from my experience. Absolutely zero lag, 60fps buttery smoothness! Plus customization
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Alex... I have one question, one comment and one request...
Question: Are you suggesting that we disable ALL animations...? or a specific one...? I recall doing this on my Note 2 and it made a difference
Comment: I see that you took some time to configure you signature, so I thought that I would let you know that you need to correct the word (Device) in your signature file
Request: Please hit the "Thank you" button for my above comment... LOL...!!
Enjoy the new toy...!!

N_otori0us_ said:
Just freeze your default launcher with titanium. That way nova is the only launcher.
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We don't have root yet

Rickgsx said:
Alex... I have one question, one comment and one request...
Question: Are you suggesting that we disable ALL animations...? or a specific one...? I recall doing this on my Note 2 and it made a difference
Comment: I see that you took some time to configure you signature, so I thought that I would let you know that you need to correct the word (Device) in your signature file
Request: Please hit the "Thank you" button for my above comment... LOL...!!
Enjoy the new toy...!!
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Yeah I just got rid of all of them, sped things up so much
And I'll be sure to fix my signature lol

Don't forget to disable the water effect at the unlock screen. I remember that taking up a bit of ram in itself.

Also you can turn off programs that you won't use (if allowed) in settings/general/application manager/all
So far I have:
Business week+
NY Times
Trip Advisor
Twitter
Yahoo Finance
These were running apps that i'll never use.

SlimJ87D said:
Don't forget to disable the water effect at the unlock screen. I remember that taking up a bit of ram in itself.
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I've had mine for about 8 hours and am not noticing much lag at all. I never set up the My Magazine app...I wonder if that has anything to do with it

lag? What lag?
not sure what people are expecting but I have no lag whatsoever this thing flies I hesitated because I love my original note 10.1 so much and use it daily but have no regrets 5 hours in?
In Addition Bench Marks Are Off The Charts

Sorry to rant on this but what's the point if spending $550 on a high end tablet if we have to do little tweaks like this. It's Samsung's job to make sure the processor can handle the experience of this wonderful tablet
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I think the first run may lag, but after recharge it for second run. This awesome device run like a beast
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There's just a lot of things installed, much like any laptop you purchased. Why do the companies have all this stuff? Money.
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N_otori0us_ said:
Just freeze your default launcher with titanium. That way nova is the only launcher.
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Is root already available on the note 10.1 2014? Because if my memory serves me you need root for that.

Maybe. Try going into settings apps and fins the launcher
Then press disable, Im not sure about it though
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