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The Dilemma: 32GB vs 16GB

I just got my second 32GB TF (first one stopped responding to touch, even after hard reset) and this one has dust under the screen and light bleed...(I was a naysayer..but the problems are REAL and not just some over exaggeration).
Anyway...I'm going to return the 32GB to BHPhoto...and managed to order a 16GB from Amazon today.
I still have some time to cancel and was debating...is the 16GB the right call? I've had the 32GB until now (since it was easier to get) and it was kind of nice knowing I had that space if I ever needed it...but do I NEED it? I realize the 16GB is expandable due to MicroSD, but onboard is always better.
How do you guys feel about the storage space?

I honestly think 16gb is a better choice as you're very unlikely to install so many apps to eat up that much space.. and you can the $100 ultra to get a decent 32gb micro sd card!

I do wish you would make up your mind with your 'stories', because over on another thread you had already bought a tab 10'1 in NY and there's no mention of also ordering another AT from Amazon.
I wish people would just piss-off and stop blatantly inventing ways to post BS stories on this forum about this freaking awesome device

checkbox111 said:
I do wish you would make up your mind with your 'stories', because over on another thread you had already bought a tab 10'1 in NY and there's no mention of also ordering another AT from Amazon.
I wish people would just piss-off and stop blatantly inventing ways to post BS stories on this forum about this freaking awesome device
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Please provide a link to where I said I bought a tab 10.1. Also, please make sure you get your facts right before you attack someone.
I might have commented on that thread, but I did NOT say I purchased one.
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edit: FYI here's what I said in that post
I can totally see the appeal.
However, I want that keyboard with the extended battery and I also want an SD card slot. Say what you want, but having the option to expand memory is pretty awesome.
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now don't you feel silly?....

newtybar said:
I realize the 16GB is expandable due to MicroSD, but onboard is always better.
How do you guys feel about the storage space?
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That's not true.
If you ever want to move files from device to device all you have to do is pop out the card on one device and into another.
I would hate to wait for 16GB worth of data to be moved through USB.
The biggest files are media files so if you plan on keeping a lot of movies on your tablet at one time, then the bigger storage is probably best.
Though, the way we are headed, everything will be streamed/downloaded through cloud anyway.

magicpork said:
I honestly think 16gb is a better choice as you're very unlikely to install so many apps to eat up that much space.. and you can the $100 ultra to get a decent 32gb micro sd card!
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Exactly my way of thinking as well. Go for the lower end and make it even BETTER than the higher ended one by getting a 32GB CLASS 6 MSD Card.

newtybar said:
I just got my second 32GB TF (first one stopped responding to touch, even after hard reset) and this one has dust under the screen and light bleed...(I was a naysayer..but the problems are REAL and not just some over exaggeration).
Anyway...I'm going to return the 32GB to BHPhoto...and managed to order a 16GB from Amazon today.
I still have some time to cancel and was debating...is the 16GB the right call? I've had the 32GB until now (since it was easier to get) and it was kind of nice knowing I had that space if I ever needed it...but do I NEED it? I realize the 16GB is expandable due to MicroSD, but onboard is always better.
How do you guys feel about the storage space?
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I personally bought the 16 GB because the 32 GB was sold out @ BB. I figured that I could always expand my memory via micro SD.

to me it doesn't make a ton of sense to add more onboard memory when expansion is possible, cheaper and more convenient

16GB unless you really have tons of music/movies that you want to carry with you all the time. I already have a 32gb iPhone4 so I have no reason to store my music on the tablet. 16GB more than enough.

I personally went for the 32. Unlike a phone, the microSD and SD cards are accessible. I plan to use those like floppy drives of today. It's much faster to copy media directly to the cards from a computer and stick them into the pad than to try to sync or copy them via the pad. At one point, I was thinking that I can just upgrade. However, there will always be some apps that cannot be moved to the microSD.
Also, Amazon currently has the 32 for $499 and 16 for $449. $50 difference for onboard 16 is a no brainer.

I just bought a 16gb with the same mentality as some of the previous replies. I went with the cheaper alternative knowing that I could easily upgrade the storage with a Micro SD card if I started running out of space.

Digiguest said:
Exactly my way of thinking as well. Go for the lower end and make it even BETTER than the higher ended one by getting a 32GB CLASS 6 MSD Card.
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Does not follow that it is better. 48 may be more then 32 but it is less then 64. You don't think that people that buy the 32 gb model are then going to say "Aw I don't need a 32 gb Micro SD card, I have more then enough internal already". No they are going to say "I wish they had 64gb Micro SD card I can put in this thing".

newtybar said:
Please provide a link to where I said I bought a tab 10.1. Also, please make sure you get your facts right before you attack someone.
I might have commented on that thread, but I did NOT say I purchased one.
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edit: FYI here's what I said in that post
now don't you feel silly?....
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I see you've edited your post how errrrr predictable! but then i see you edit a lot of your posts

Given Google music, and rentable movies that either stream or delete themselves after you watch them, I think Steve Jobs is on the right track. I have WiFi 95% of the places I go. 100% of the time on work days. With the Google music beta I have no music ON my tablet, but access to my entire collection with a network connection. The 16gb tablet has room for several movies, but once netflix and android market movies are fully functional I don't see the point of even bothering to rip a DVD into a format that will play. My conclusion? 16gb saved me $50 or more over the 32gb version. That pays for netflix for 6 months or so.

Got the 16gb, and got a 32GB microsd at 90$ (patriot 32gb class 10) looks great

If you really (x10) need memory, go for the 32GB model, otherwise, the 16GB model will do just fine.

boogiemaan said:
I plan to use those like floppy drives of today.
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Ha, what?! Are you from the past?

checkbox111 said:
I see you've edited your post how errrrr predictable! but then i see you edit a lot of your posts
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I edited it to include the link to what was referred to, to make it easier for you.
I even included the reason I edited it. If you look at the post I linked to...it was NOT edited.
Let's think about what you accused me of (starting a post about getting a tab 10.1). Was that me? No.

I decided to keep the 16gb from Amazon. External storage is all I need. Do any of the current folio cases have pockets to hold micro SD cards?

Problem with going low and using cards is it's a pain to maintain a desktop like atmosphere if I have some on board and some on a card and swap cards for something else and need access to what was on the other card. I have a mydocs folder under mysugarsync folder and sync it with my home computer. Considering a majority of my files are media/Office based, and mt TF replaced my laptop, I have a more complete setup without having to swap cards. I also had a bunch of gift cards and paid about $300 for the 32gb after returning the 16gb one so it wasn't a tough choice. I like card access, but swapping cards more often is not really my idea of efficient. Plus the slots are always open for use. Still wish the tablet had full size SD. Hate the trend towards micro on devices that have no justification for it. Considering the TF is wider than any other 10.1 with nothing else really under the hood in comparison, a full size SD should have been a no brainer.
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I want the SGS3 64GB for AWS 1700!

So we got official confirmation there will be a AWS 1700 version of the SGS3
however, no one ever reported when we'll ever see the 64GB version.
16GB is like nothing now in days, yet that's the version that most phone carriers are carrying as it's the cheapest one to get.
Since they are opening Samsung retail stores here in Canada shortly, I'm really looking to purchasing a SGS3 directly from Samsung with 64GB and for AWS 1700, or whatever the biggest size they can make for the AWS band.
like Verizion were the only ones that carried the 32GB version of the Galaxy Nexus

agree, now with the quadcore, 4.8 inch display i'm planning on lots of music (maybe even .flac songs) and TV shows that i can't watch at home because i don't have time, a great alternative.
looking also for the 64GB version.

AllGamer said:
however, no one ever reported when we'll ever see the 64GB version.
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You're given an sdcard slot, use it, no need to pay a premium for a more memory built in when the memory card costs a fraction of the price.

I'd rather make use of the SD card slot, in case I ever need to transfer between devices

Doesn't the expandable micro sd slot support much faster media? I'm gonna slam a 64gb card in there and be done with it. There's no way I'm going to fill 80 gb...

NAND memory inside of phone is the same as SSD disks have, it is faster than SD cards

Will the speed of sd make much of a difference though day to day? You could use the 16GB for your system and apps then use sd for data storage e.g. audio and video. That's what I plan to do, I already have a 64gb sd so there's no point in spending the extra cash on the phone.

I also want the 64gb model. Fed up fannying about with slow external medias and seperate partitions.
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hefonthefjords said:
I also want the 64gb model. Fed up fannying about with slow external medias and seperate partitions.
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I dunno about you guys,but my Samsung 32gb class 10 micro-sd which I use with my GS2(~45gb total ) is faster than just fast enough.And write speeds are in general better than the internal storage.So a 64gb one would make do I guess.

I have HTC Sensation (1 GB internal memory + Class 10 Lexar 32 GB SD) and SGS2 (16 GB internal memory)
HTC is much slower than SGS2 because of NAND internal memory, it takes forever to install games that take like 30-40 MB on it, while SGS2 does that pretty quick

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NAND memory inside of phone is the same as SSD disks have, it is faster than SD cards
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exactly

already using it
peachpuff said:
You're given an sdcard slot, use it, no need to pay a premium for a more memory built in when the memory card costs a fraction of the price.
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I already have, and it's running out of space
seen my HOWTO guides?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343164
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343187
got loads of Apps/Games, Music & Videos on my entertainment Galaxy phones

Does anyone know how many gigs will be allocated for installation of apps i really don#t care for memory.. You just stick in a 32 or 64gb card and your sorted.. Speed doesn't matter to me as long as i can watch a full length monies on a train or coach ride to meet my gf lol..

Meemo23 said:
Does anyone know how many gigs will be allocated for installation of apps i really don#t care for memory.. You just stick in a 32 or 64gb card and your sorted.. Speed doesn't matter to me as long as i can watch a full length monies on a train or coach ride to meet my gf lol..
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i certainly hope they don't do the same crap they did with the Galaxy Nexus to have everything in 1 single partition just to show people the full size of the internal memory as 1 usable chunk, instead of sectioned like all previous build of Galaxy phones.
i certainly DO NOT want to use MTS to transfer my files, that'll be the worst way possible to handle huge movie files (8+ GB sizes), the bigger the file the slower the copy, the easier it breaks and you have to start all over again

Returning to Android. Getting S4, are there still apps that's cant go to Sdcard?

I want the 32gb s4. Or should I get a 16gb s4 and get a 32gb sd card? Unless there are still certain apps that can't go on Sdcard. I haven't used android in a long time. I'm asking because im going to download a lot of games on this phone. Thanks

Most games go to internal memory and with the size of HD games it runs out fast
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augoza said:
I want the 32gb s4. Or should I get a 16gb s4 and get a 32gb sd card? Unless there are still certain apps that can't go on Sdcard. I haven't used android in a long time. I'm asking because im going to download a lot of games on this phone. Thanks
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Since Ice Cream Sandwich, apps can no longer be conventionally moved to the SD card. I have heard there are some ways around this once you root the device, but I have never tried it. So if your a novice, move to the SD card won't be readily available.

augoza said:
I want the 32gb s4. Or should I get a 16gb s4 and get a 32gb sd card? Unless there are still certain apps that can't go on Sdcard. I haven't used android in a long time. I'm asking because im going to download a lot of games on this phone. Thanks
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It depends:
Gameloft's Asphalt 7 store the data on internal memory but EA's Need For Speed can store the data (2Gb) on the external SD card.
With root access and an app like RomToolBox, you can choose where you install the softwares but I dont think it makes a difference with Gameloft games.

Bagbug said:
It depends:
Gameloft's Asphalt 7 store the data on internal memory but EA's Need For Speed can store the data (2Gb) on the external SD card.
With root access and an app like RomToolBox, you can choose where you install the softwares but I dont think it makes a difference with Gameloft games.
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Thanks you guys for replying. You've instilled the patience for me to wait for the 64gb GS4. I just got off the phone with a corporate AT&T store here in Ohio. He was sure he could sign me up as a new customer, could order the 32gb one and have it shipped to me in a few days. He put me on hold to make sure he could ship the 64gb one like the 32gb one. Unfortunately he came back to confirm he actually cannot order the 32gb one or the 64gb one. He said the US hasn't gotten the 32 or 64gb S4 at all and no clue when. But it could be in a few days. What if it's weeks though. Damn. just thought I'd share.

Once someone makes a custom ROM/kernel you can change the way your device thinks .. You can make your 64gb SD card your internal storage allowing everything to be Installed there
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this has come a long way from my epic 4g which has less than 500MB for apps and constantly ran out. SDCard app installation was a painful, process, and very slow. Nice to have all 16GB of space wide open. I'm gonna definitely need to get an SD card though for movies. Hehe

augoza said:
Thanks you guys for replying. You've instilled the patience for me to wait for the 64gb GS4. I just got off the phone with a corporate AT&T store here in Ohio. He was sure he could sign me up as a new customer, could order the 32gb one and have it shipped to me in a few days. He put me on hold to make sure he could ship the 64gb one like the 32gb one. Unfortunately he came back to confirm he actually cannot order the 32gb one or the 64gb one. He said the US hasn't gotten the 32 or 64gb S4 at all and no clue when. But it could be in a few days. What if it's weeks though. Damn. just thought I'd share.
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I am right there with you, waiting on the 32GB. I have heard May or June, also heard this week, to in a few weeks. Going on vacation next week so fortunately I will be gone for a spell and won't be thinking about it. But it does suck they couldn't offer up the 32GB at the same time, that woul have given them a true sense of popularity.
You simply cannot move apps to the SD card with the Apps2SD apps, and unless you root and change the directory binds to make the ext. SD the internal storage which can be an issue for some. This is the reason I sold my GN2, just would NOT live with 10.8GB of space. I am not going to sacrifice storage on device for cloud storage that costs you money to d/l every time.

RaptorMD said:
I am right there with you, waiting on the 32GB. I have heard May or June, also heard this week, to in a few weeks. Going on vacation next week so fortunately I will be gone for a spell and won't be thinking about it. But it does suck they couldn't offer up the 32GB at the same time, that woul have given them a true sense of popularity.
You simply cannot move apps to the SD card with the Apps2SD apps, and unless you root and change the directory binds to make the ext. SD the internal storage which can be an issue for some. This is the reason I sold my GN2, just would NOT live with 10.8GB of space. I am not going to sacrifice storage on device for cloud storage that costs you money to d/l every time.
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For sure. Att called me today. There was a Samsung rep at that att store apparently. He told me that the rep said the 32 and 64gb S4 will be available in about a week. So I'm thinking Saturday. Hope it's true

augoza said:
For sure. Att called me today. There was a Samsung rep at that att store apparently. He told me that the rep said the 32 and 64gb S4 will be available in about a week. So I'm thinking Saturday. Hope it's true
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I hope so too, I really need a phone and my fear is it could be months. I wonder IF we will see a 64GB version, that would be awesome,but I would happily take 32GB version.

Oh yeah, I'd take the 32gb one if the 64 is over $400. Dang I hope it's not months, but if it is at least there will probably be newer phones released. So I might not even get the s4

32gb or 64gb won't make it to US. Samsung pulls this crap all the time and give us crappy useless 16gb. HTC one is looking better and better. I know on the note 2 you can run a script if you were rooted to make your SD card become your internal storage hopefully same process works on sgs4
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[Q] Says 16GB on the Box, but on the system it says 8Gb?

I wonder if there is an error here, because I was expecting a 16Gb device but what I got has only 8Gb? Where did the other 8Gb go? :crying:

Well...Just contact service support of samsung

Its gone no where, samsung has filled it with their own flavor known as bloat.
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the internal memory is also used for all the apps that come pre-installed, not to mention the OS as well. its 16gb on the phone, but a lot of it is used up already thanks to Samsung and T-Mobile

Midnight_Rider said:
the internal memory is also used for all the apps that come pre-installed, not to mention the OS as well. its 16gb on the phone, but a lot of it is used up already thanks to Samsung and T-Mobile
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sohebq said:
Its gone no where, samsung has filled it with their own flavor known as bloat.
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Maybe but I came from S3, but isn't 8Gb too much for just bloatware? On my previous S3, the total available internal memory was 11.25gb. I would understand the 4.75Gb reduction because of the OS (I already have removed some bloatware) But 8Gb?

Why manufacturers even makes phones these days with 16gb internal memory is beyond me.
Some games these days are 4gb each! that gives you enough space for 2 top of the line games on your phone, ridiculous!
I can understand back in the day of the Galaxy S and S2 having 16gb but not these days. Also Samsung really shouldn't claim 16gb when half of it used up already!! It's very misleading. We do not have 16gb available at all.
It was understandable when the OS and system apps only used to take up around 2gb, but saying the device has 16gb storage when 8gb is already taken doesn't seem right to me.

Obagleyfreer said:
Why manufacturers even makes phones these days with 16gb internal memory is beyond me.
Some games these days are 4gb each! that gives you enough space for 2 top of the line games on your phone, ridiculous!
I can understand back in the day of the Galaxy S and S2 having 16gb but not these days. Also Samsung really shouldn't claim 16gb when half of it used up already!! It's very misleading. We do not have 16gb available at all.
It was understandable when the OS and system apps only used to take up around 2gb, but come on saying the device has 16gb when 8gb is already taken doesn't seem right to me.
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You mean you also got the same issue as mine?

Paolonicus said:
You mean you also got the same issue as mine?
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Every S4 is the same mate.
It's not an "issue" as such, it's just the way it is.

Paolonicus said:
I wonder if there is an error here, because I was expecting a 16Gb device but what I got has only 8Gb? Where did the other 8Gb go? :crying:
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This is why I Bought a 16GB extSD Card

Obagleyfreer said:
Every S4 is the same mate.
It's not an "issue" as such, it's just the way it is.
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Lol, ehat if I tell you that my xperia arc has only 420 mb of internal storage, the os takes 200 mb, but I have 359 mb FREE, I don't know how

Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.

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Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
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well true, but it has always been this way. not sure of any phone with internal memory that wasn't partially used by the phones OS, even non-android phones are like this, even iOS

Same issue with windows and Mac computers lol. But yes, I agree that 32 Gb should be new min standard because of app size increases as the years go by.
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Partially used is ok. Not 50% used. Big difference. And there needs to be a warning apps/games cannot be saved on the sd card - forget tweaks that's for tech geeks not the average person.

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Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
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Well they neber stated 16gbs free or 16gb useable...so what woupd report them for? You expecting more?
Every device is like this...some more than others. But even blank hardrives/flash drives don't have as much as they claim...buy a terabyte blank hard drive and your actually only getting 9XXgb hard drive
And you cant really base it off the s3 as every year the system partition gets larger taking up more space...due to more features/bloat being added. The worst part is not even debloating will increase your free memory as the whole system partition needs to be changed if you want more user space
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So now we are justifying why it is ok for companies to do this? surely not. So if the S5 is 16gb with 4gb free that will be ok then?

no, its not ok, but you can try emailing samsung instead of beating a dead horse here
but here's the thing. hard drive manufacturers have been doing this for decades. when they say 16gb they dont mean gigabyte, they mean 16 billion bytes. there is a difference.
hard drive makers use base 10 in computing hard drive sizes, so when you see 16gb it really means 16 billion bytes which is less than what you think you are getting. those who understand binary know the difference. in base 2, if i say kilobyte, that means 1024 bytes, but on a hard drive, it means 1000 bytes. see the difference?
on my wife's Tmo S4 she has 9.62gb free from her 16gb internal memory, a lot yes, but not half

I have been in touch with Samsung. They blame Google. I've responded and awaiting a further response.
The available memory varies dependant on carrier. 9.62gb is the UK average I believe.
The other issue is Samsung doesn't sell the phone. It gets orders from carriers and wholesalers. The carriers and wholesalers all chose 16gb since they all thought the memory was expandable with sd card along with apps and games being able to be saved on the sd card.
Maybe a few months down the line we will see 32gb versions being available. I am hopeful.

[Q] Anyone know when the 32Gig units will arrive?

TIA

IMO, you probably won't see it for a while. There's no announcement on when they will release it. However, to be fair the device has expendable memory. In all likelihood you would be able to add a UHS1 (if speed is a concern) 32GB micro SD for less than paying the extra for a 32GB unit.

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IMO, you probably won't see it for a while. There's no announcement on when they will release it. However, to be fair the device has expendable memory. In all likelihood you would be able to add a UHS1 (if speed is a concern) 32GB micro SD for less than paying the extra for a 32GB unit.
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The card could be so fast it creates black hole, but still will not let you put apps on it. I doubt Verizon will add a 32gb version. Especially with the camera failures. Verizon is probably mentally reaming Samsung behind the scenes. Not a good scenario for adding another model anytime soon if ever.

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The card could be so fast it creates black hole, but still will not let you put apps on it.
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While that's true you still have access to 9GB of the built in storage. It's hard to imagine anyone loading 9GB worth of apps on their device. Not to mention generally speaking storage space is taken up by media (photo, music, videos, etc) which removable storage is perfect for.

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While that's true you still have access to 9GB of the built in storage. It's hard to imagine anyone loading 9GB worth of apps on their device. Not to mention generally speaking storage space is taken up by media (photo, music, videos, etc) which removable storage is perfect for.
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Imagination is relative to device use. I have a 32gb S4 and have 7gb free. Also have a 128gb card with 30gb free. MP3, video and game roms fill that up.
Factor in sd cards are now limited in function with 3rd party apps, the internal storage becomes more relevant in need.

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Imagination is relative to device use. I have a 32gb S4 and have 7gb free. Also have a 128gb card with 30gb free. MP3, video and game roms fill that up.
Factor in sd cards are now limited in function with 3rd party apps, the internal storage becomes more relevant in need.
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Well said, and one persons acceptable internal storage is anthers unacceptable internal storage. You get 10.7 GB of storage and you know what its not enough for me. I had a GN3 32GB until I returned it today. Comes with 25GB of usable space, I load apps and I am down to 22.8GB of usable space. So you are thinking he only uses 2.2GB of apps, and you know what that is correct . . . for today. I could d/l a ton of larger apps, like Dead Trigger 2, MC4, NOVA3, etc, etc and quickly eat up space. I should not be required to accept a lesser storage option because an OEM and/or carrier is lazy, greedy and inefficient in managing their inventory.
AT&T will very likley offer it, and very likely well before Verizon does and if they do I am on them like stink on a skunk.

rushless said:
The card could be so fast it creates black hole, but still will not let you put apps on it. I doubt Verizon will add a 32gb version. Especially with the camera failures. Verizon is probably mentally reaming Samsung behind the scenes. Not a good scenario for adding another model anytime soon if ever.
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Since Verizon is the only one with the camera failure I would suspect Verizons bloatware is the cause so samsung may ne mentally reaming verizon.

Lodaserves said:
I hope they will release 32gb with a low price.LOL
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Expect the 32GB to cost at least $50 more than the 16GB which is why they should just do away with the 16GB in the US, EU, Asian markets and keep the 16GB for the markets where price is a major issue.

I apologize if this seems like a noob question, so we can't move apps to the SD card?
I haven't really checked but all the games and apps I've downloaded I thought I was moving to the SD card to save space. They say they're on the SD card. I was just wondering if there were any shenanigans going on. It's my old sd card from my other phone until I upgrade to a faster one.
I really had no idea you couldn't do that anymore. Makes me want root even more now.

Not sure we will see a 32GB version. Last year around now (in relation to launch date of S4) I was told a 32GB was coming via our corporate rep (person is also a regional trainer), but this time zero information. The camera issue though has VZW spooked, so this make the rep think that issue alone could result in no new models.
I am one of the more vocal fans for 32GB and always look at the Dumb & Dumber million to one chance. Not looking as good this time around compared to the S4. Maybe when they figure out the camera issue and sales start slowing on the 16GB version they will add one. That is 110% conjecture.

Sneakytiki said:
I apologize if this seems like a noob question, so we can't move apps to the SD card?
I haven't really checked but all the games and apps I've downloaded I thought I was moving to the SD card to save space. They say they're on the SD card. I was just wondering if there were any shenanigans going on. It's my old sd card from my other phone until I upgrade to a faster one.
I really had no idea you couldn't do that anymore. Makes me want root even more now.
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Nevermind, it just creates new folders with nothing in them. Only thing sd card is good for is pictures, roms, and music. I didn't even notice at first.....

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In all likelihood you would be able to add a UHS1 (if speed is a concern) 32GB micro SD for less than paying the extra for a 32GB unit.
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How does the that help with apps? People that want the 32gb have more apps than will fit on the 10gb free on the 16gb model. With root looking dubious or at least a real pain to achieve, the only stable solution for apps and Kitkat is to be installed in the internal storage.
If you do not have many apps, no harm no foul and enjoy the model with about 15gb less app storage. Some will not since have more than 10gb of apps that fit on the 16gb model.

Still not a peep from Verizon corporate reps, but last year we knew already by this time in the launch window. Perhaps not happening, but based on the lack of interest here, perhaps no harm no foul for folks here.