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Hi,
I've been using my xda for about a month now and have noticed it hard to keep the screen clean, it seems to be very greasy etc... Has anyone invested in a screen protector for this problem or is it not really worth it?
Also cause i have only had mine a month with limited use, has anyone who has owed this phone longer noticed it gets scratched from the pen etc after longer periods of time...?
I know not important questions but just something i've been wondering none the less. Thanks
Got a brando one
I wanted to ditch the case (as it's pants) so I got a brando screen protector. It was a real faff to fit and I still haven't got it a) square or b) without loads of [email protected] under it, but it does its job, it seems to be sensitive enough and I (probably) am too ham-fisted to judge how difficult it is to fit the thing.
Hope that helps.
I've been told the Martin Whatsisname Screen Protectors are really good.
I'm thinking about getting one of these.
Do they leave any marks when you peel them off afterwards? From the glue and stuff?
Hi Tom
They don't use any glue, so you can just peel them off with no problem.
They cling to the screen like clingfilm.
nothing else than brando! have used it on all of my previous devices .. just no comparison to the cheap ones on ebay ...
I would say screen protector is a must for me...I'm too lazy to pull out the stylus every time....a screen protector will allow me to tap with my fingers, nails.....or even a pen....in fact, I put a protector on almost every mobile phones, my previous PPC....
Fair enough, but at £8.50+ its a rip off!!! for a bit of plastic that cost 0.05p to make, they're laughing all the way to the bank....
Supply & Demand
Maybe. It's a quality product and it's still a lot cheaper than a new screen...
You pays yer money.
Maybe but im just not convinced, how can you decribe a bit of platic as a "quality product"? I have heard they are extreemly hard to fit properly without getting finger prints on them etc and you get air bubbles and it is really annoying if you even leave a few specs of dust underneath it...?
No one round the office here seems to bother with them. I dont expect with any device for the screen to remain untouched forever, i think it just comes down to normal wear and tear, as with everything. Just my views anyway, need to hear more about these things before i had over best part of £10.
I have seen a Martin Fields one and someone on here said they were good. Is it easy to notice its there if you have one installed?
I have bought some via ebay from screenprotector24 at £1.99 for 6 plus P&P. There was also a buy 2 get 1 free offer on too. I have never been a fan of screen protectors but I agree that with the Mini-S it is verging on essential.
I am more than happy with the quality of the ones I received.
Hope that helps someone.
Regards,
White.
I've been looking for some on ebay, what did you type in to search and find those? can you link me?
Hi,
Sorry, I'm at work and barred from ebay. www.screenprotector24.de may well work if I recall correctly.
Regards,
White
Brando screen protectors
Just because something's made of plastic doesn't mean it isn't quality. After all look at Pamela Anderson! (Sorry).
The Brando one I got is doing its job. Before I had the screen protector dirt would pile up and I'd be cleaning it 3 or 4 times a day. Now I don't have to. I was worried the screen would get damaged. I don't have to worry what I use on the screen or shoving it in my pocket.
Yes, you can tell it's on if you look. It looks like you've left the manufacturers sheet on but without a tab to remove it if it catches the light. Straight on, you'd be hard pressed to know it's there - honest.
I haven't seen the cheapo ones myself, I went on recomendations on forums from people who had more experience.
Also, Brando service is outstanding in my experience.
Right ok, i am thinking of getting one just for peace of mind. All i can find is Martin Philips ones on UK sites... Where can i find a decent priced Brando one on a UK site for a 02 xdx mini s? Can someone name a shop or link me etc?
Thanks
Go straight to the source!
I bought mine direct from the Brando site in Hong Kong... http://shop.brando.com.hk/screenprotector.php. It arrived within 6 days
I had the antireflective one on my old XDA2, but these ultra glossy ones are MUCH better. It was a fiddle to fit, but I honestly can't that it's there other than by looking for the edge. I've tried this a few times and I find the following procedure works well.
First off, you need to find as dust free an environment as possible. Choose a room that doesn't have any carpet, or fabric in it if you can(cushions curtains etc). Boil a kettle, and make the room a bit steamy. When the steam clears, it should take some of the dust with it.
The trick to avoiding dust is to be prepared. Get a good lint free cloth (lens microfibre cloth worked well for me) and a blower brush - small rubber bulb with a nozzle. Also keep some masking tape ready. Finally you will need a bright light - ideally a spot light, or if you've got low fluorescent lights under over your kitchen work tops, they are ideal. Wear latex gloves if you have any (you can usually get packs of 20 from poundland)
Stick some masking tape to the your worksurface, folding it back on itself, so that the sticky side is facing up. Use several strips so that you have an area two or three times the size of your screen.
Spend a few minutes polishing with the lint free cloth, and then set the phone down, face up, well illuminated (from above) and switched off!. Blow off all the remaining dust with the blower - make sure that no dust is stuck (might require more polishing) at this stage you have two hands free - in a minute you won't! Dont worry if some dust starts to settle back on the screen at this stage - it will be loose, and you can blow it off in a minute.
Next step - take the screen protector, and peel off the backing two thirds of the way. Keep the 'sticky' side face down so dust doesn't settle on it. It's helpful if you can crease the backing slightly as it's quite springy and tends to get in the way a bit. Be careful not to touch the exposed side though. If you're right handed you'll want the screen protector in your right hand at this moment.
The next bit, you might need to repeat a few times until you get it right...
Blow the last bits of dust off the screen (do NOT use your mouth - you will spit all over the screen). Line up the most exposed end of the protector - its a very precise fit, the edges will touch both sides, and the end should be lined up exactly with the end of the screen. If you push the protector under the plastic above the screen it will be short at the other end. You might need to lift and reposition a few times to get this right. Once you have placed the exposed end, put a finger on top and check the alignment. Now check for any dust. You might be able to blow one or two bits off, but if there is more than that, you need to lift off the protector, press it down onto the upturned tape to get rid of any dust, blow the dust of the screen and try again. The dust sticks to the tape MUCH better than the screen, and will not leave any residue on the Brando protector, so you can do this quite a few times if necessary.
The important thing here is not to panic. You will get dust, and will need to go round the loop a few times, but as you'll be prepared, there will be no problem. Once the protector is lined up, the screen is (temporarily) dust free and there are no bubbles (phew!) carefully remove the last of the backing film and holding the edges very lightly between your fingers (gloves help here) lay the last bit removing any bubbles. Once down, it is hard to get the protector off without damaging the edge so only do the last bit once you're sure there is no dust/bubbles.
Remove the front sheet and polish. With any luck, you should hardly be able to tell that the screen protector is there!
Thanks for those really comprehensive instructions! I'm going to order one from the Brando site today and will pick up the blower and lint-free cloth etc from Jessops (camera shop) this weekend.
Martin Fields overlay plus Question
Nice one on such detailed instructions!
I order a Martin Fields over lay plus today, they seem to have good reviews everywhere i have looked. They are slightly adhesive though, but as this is a "gentle silicon based glue" (so i hear) i think that means it will be fine on the screen.
Has anyone had experience on using these and what the screen is like after you remove them, any residue etc left afterwards? How long will it last roughly?
Thanks for any help guys!
I haven't tried this, but you could probably save yourself the cost of a blower brush by using a bike pump or better still an airbed footpump (you can use that one handed).
tom99, if you get a Martin Fields protector (or any other sort that uses adhesive) I'm not sure that its safe to use masking tape to clean it. The Brando ones stick to the screen electostatically, so its safe to clean them with tape (the instructions that come with it recommend scotch tape). If the instructions you get with your Martin Fields protector don't mention cleaning with tape, then I would miss out that step. Can you add a comment to this thread when you get it (or anyone else that has used a MF protector)? It might help others decide which protector to go for.
Am i the only one who thinks all cases are rubbish, the device is perfect size wise but not safe to use everyday in its undressed condition as i dont want to damage the screen. Screen protectors i have tried are crap to fit and look awful on with air bubbles ever where. Cases make the device too bulky and hard to use, HP have the best solution with the plastic flip screen that goes over the top of the screen like the 6500 series so you dont get marks all over the screen when using the phone and it protects the unit when its in your pocket without taking up much space, why cant we have one of those on this device it would be the perfect solution
You can't have it all
The five hundred euro I paid for the Wizard does not come by easy and thats why I use the case to protect my investment.
manufacture one, or have one manufactured
There's a small indentation around the screen where a very thing plastic protector could fit. Or you could put it against the screen if you're careful enough not to let anything get inbetween :> Problem is, where would you make it hinge - and where would you attach/clip the hinge to the wizard? I'm not really spotting any convenient place to do so (forget about the antenna / anything at the back - remember that the screen slides out from the bottom area with the keyboard). Can't clip it over the top area, as you'll obscure the buttons, the speaker and the LEDs (though you could keep an eopening for the last two, you can't really have an opening for the keys as that would make the construction very fragile).
It always happened the same way: I drop a stylus and the tip breaks off.
Every single time.
Sometimes I can be a but clumbsy but I think it is rediculous that it cant handle the fall. Are there styli which arent so very breakable or do I have to make some construction with a line of rope connecting my stylus to the phone or something... doh... any ideas? Styli arent the cheapest things for what you get and I dropped my stylus 5 times now (yes that means I broke 5 of them). I dont want to spend a fortune on finger replacements...
Thanx for any replies
I also have some stylus problems...
my first kill: the big plastic part at the back broke clean off when i dropped it onto the street
I injured one, but it came back to life: the big plastic part at the back came out of the aluminium part of the stylus, i glued it back in and seems fine again.
Today i found bought a dead one...: i bought a set of replacements, and one of them is missing the tip of the stylus...
So i agree, they should have been built a bit better than this...
Hi,
I killed one Blueangel stylus.
The should make full metal ones, lol
Or full plastic ones...
I've never broken my HP H5550 stylus (which is ugly, but indescructible)
Hi to all who have dust between the touch screen digitizer and LCD.
I send my device 3 times to the authorised HTC service center because of this problem, they cleaned it (not perfectly) and the dust was back again after few days of use. This was really ennoying for me...
After several disassemblies, cleaning, research where dust comes in, then assembles I found the flaw.
The dust doesn’t come in via sealing foam between the touch screen digitizer and LCD.
There is a bump defect of phone housing around the volume keys. Inside of the plastic housing is a metal frame, where the touch screen digitizer is stacked on - that frame is a little bended and the touch screen doesn’t stick properly on it (around the volume keys only). When you look close on the phone you can see also a little wider gap between the touch screen top glass and silver plastic housing edge. (See picture)
WARNING
The following directions WILL VOID
your warranty - you are performing
this repair at your own risk.
So, now, what you have to do:
For those, who have already dust in, just simply disassembly your device (if you are brave enough, have all tools and precise hands - maybe some experience ) and remove PROPERLY all dirt with brush, compressed air and antistatic cloth, then assemble it back or send the device to the service center to clean it (wont void the warranty). Before sealing your TD2 (keep it in plastic bag away from dust) prepare a sharp wooden toothpick, neutral transparent or black silicone (you can purchase it from any building material shop) and cotton cloth.
Now you have to clean the gap between whole plastic silver housing frame and touch screen top glass with soft brush. Then use sharp wooden toothpick to impress the silicone into the gap (all gaps you can see, just in case) (silicone does not damage phone housing and TSCR surface and it’s easy to clean), then just gently and properly wipe off all the rest of silicone from phone surface. (be careful not to get silicone to the keys or phone receiver slot)
Leave the phone for several hours to get silicone dry.
Then you can use your TD2 in dusty environment and your display stays absolutely clean and dusty free. (TESTED on mine, for me perfect phone now and I am very happy with it...)
For those who have a little dust in and want to stop come more in and those who are planning to buy TD2 (dont wanna play the lottery faulty or not ), do the same procedure (silicone impress only) after unwrapping your device from plastic package.
GOOD LUCK!!! ENJOY YOUR ABSOLUTELY DUSTY FREE DEVICE!!!
Sorry for my English
I don't know about you guys, but I'm not crazy enough to void the warranty of my phone because of a minor thing like that. When mine gets dirty, I send it back and that's it.
If it gets dirty again, I send it back again...
But, it's a good tutorial for the "brave ones" anyway Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
HastaSSSS
I sent mine back over a week ago due to this dust problem (in fact I delivered it in person to HTC repair center in Milton Keynes) hoping for a quick turnaround.
I'm still waiting for it to come back and missing it terribly. I'm back to using my old Nokia E71 which is a great phone but I like my new one and want it back so I may go down the route of the OP just so I don't have to repeat the return each time I get a dust issue.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519463
i dont want to hijack this thread. if i am then i am sorry
but hopefully you can input your expertise into this thread or help form an opinion for a new thread
I just got a topaz and want to keep dust from getting in but I'm confused about the sillicon. Could you describe more clearly what it is and maybe post a picture so I have some idea what it should look like.
from the picture, for the second gap, apply the protective foil that comes with the phone. Should solve a bit the problem. Ber in mind that after apply, the touchscreen will not have the same sensitivity. You'll have to tap a little bit harder ...
i think you meant screen protector no?
anyway thx for the info,
if anyone knows how to disassemble this device pls help
yes, screen protector. Better not use the screwdriver ... remember warranty ...
I thought these dust under the screen issues had been fixed long ago, but now it seems the problem that affected my old c600 has come back to ruin my topaz after just 1 week.
Not impressed.
georgeono said:
from the picture, for the second gap, apply the protective foil that comes with the phone. Should solve a bit the problem. Ber in mind that after apply, the touchscreen will not have the same sensitivity. You'll have to tap a little bit harder ...
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I already use a screen protector. I'm more concerned about the first gap. I really don't want dust to happen since I bought my phone second hand and it doesn't have a warrenty.
you can always use a can of pressurized air to get the dust out. (same you use with PCs)
Wouldn't you need two holes that are connected if your blowing air into the device? One for the air to go in and one for the dust to go out? I don't have any dust under my screen currently and would like it to remain that way. The silicon method doesn't seem to difficult or dangerous which is why I'm interested in what silicon to use.
from what I understood (from the pictures in the 1st post), it's not actually a hole, but a free space = gap.
I opened the D2 (only the two upper screws - for lifting the inner part a bit) and did have a look for "gaps" somewhere around the volume controls - i did not really see a gap
But for getting out the dust: dont blow air into the D2 but get the air out - i actually used a vacuum-cleaner. If you remove the two screws it is possible to lift the LCD below the volume sliders *A LITTLE BIT* (=about 0,5 mm only!!!!!) with a small screw driver to create a gap. It worked quite well. (be aware of high air flow and possible static electricity)
But i really would like to know, where exactly to apply some supplementary sealing to get rid of the dust-problem. Any detailed pic would be appreciated.
axantas said:
But i really would like to know, where exactly to apply some supplementary sealing to get rid of the dust-problem. Any detailed pic would be appreciated.
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Yeah Me too!
OK, people, just put some neutral silicone between (in the gap) silver plastic frame and touch screen (there is just 0,2 -0,5 mm gap, almost invisible) and you wont get any dust under the touch screen. This is the best solution, you could do it from inside, but its much more complicated...
pedroo said:
OK, people, just put some neutral silicone between (in the gap) silver plastic frame and touch screen (there is just 0,2 -0,5 mm gap, almost invisible) and you wont get any dust under the touch screen. This is the best solution, you could do it from inside, but its much more complicated...
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What exactly is neutral silicone? Do you have a picture of it so I know what to buy?
I'm about to buy the TD2,
is it so big problem this dust under the screen?
Does it happen often?
luca T said:
I'm about to buy the TD2,
is it so big problem this dust under the screen?
Does it happen often?
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I've had it for about a week and the user I bought it from had it supposedly for about 3 weeks and so far no dust. I'm still terrified its going to happen though.
pedroo said:
OK, people, just put some neutral silicone between (in the gap) silver plastic frame and touch screen (there is just 0,2 -0,5 mm gap, almost invisible) and you wont get any dust under the touch screen. This is the best solution, you could do it from inside, but its much more complicated...
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Thanks for the pic, pedroo - so they simply should have glued the digitizer surface a bit more careful to the housing...
...thinking a bit about applying the radical solution - not sure yet
Hi Guys
Looking for a Stylus replacement for my tegra note after my little girl bit off the rubber on the end. Any suggestions??
If you find one let me know. I wanted to buy the pro stylus as I miss the thin end for writing but its kind of unicorn everybody talk about it but no stock available.
Have you tried contacting the store where you bought it from? They might be able to buy it for you directly from the manufacturer as a spare part.
Or you might have luck contacting the manufacturer directly, perhaps they have the possibility to sell spare parts directly to customers.
In Uk I have asked in PC World (as Advent is their sub-company) if they have them/will have/can order and the answer was "no". Also I have contacted EVGA EU (as their US store had them for a while but will not ship outside US) if they are going to have them the answer " no".
someone was selling them on ebay for about 15 quid IIRC
the homecare branded covers and styluses are available.
I don't think the rubber is that important but the funny core piece is so it might me feasible to make a replacement.
PC world must have spare stock instore to deal with people nicking the styluses off the display models I would have thought
doing a quick search and newegg have them but wont ship to the UK so you need a postal buddly
I am looking for one too. I have the pro stylus and while it is fine, the rubber tips wear out very quickly. And either I can not find them in stock anywhere, or they are like $35 (Insane) So I have been looking at the more main stream ones, like for the surface tablets, or similar to see if any work and have not had any luck so far.
So I am hoping someone out there can find a suitable replacement for our styluses?
Okay, I ordered this one from Ebay. It works okay, not perfect, but certainly good enough for what I need it for. It is a hard plastic tip, not a rubber one, so it does have a different feel. Since it is hard, occasionally the tablet will skip a beat sensing it. But again, for the price it does work to write notes on this tablet with. Be prepared for a 30 day wait on delivery though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-in-1-New-...462?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35e2f55486
Hey there
How about other styluses like adonit jot or anything else
Anybody ever tried? I find the supplied tip very soft
Used to use wacom hard tip
Does it response with those batteried active stylus (not asking about pressure sensitivity)
And.....a tip
You can get "pressure sensitivity" effect by those cheap blunt rubbery head styluses.
Just a reminder that any standard pencil (mechanical pencils usually won't work) will also work as a stylus, though without pressure sensitivity. They work beautifully, and they won't hurt or mark the screen at all. I never use the included stylus any more. If you want the best option, check the drafting section at your local office supply store for some solid graphite pencils; they work the best, plus they're just really cool.
This is where I got mine in the UK
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/331508450585?nav=SEARCH
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rchrdcrg said:
Just a reminder that any standard pencil (mechanical pencils usually won't work) will also work as a stylus, though without pressure sensitivity. They work beautifully, and they won't hurt or mark the screen at all. I never use the included stylus any more. If you want the best option, check the drafting section at your local office supply store for some solid graphite pencils; they work the best, plus they're just really cool.
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I'm using a graphite pencil now it works really well. Easier to hold than the stylus that came with my tegra. I've also put a screen protector on it so I'm not worried about marks on it.
gbsa850 said:
I'm using a graphite pencil now it works really well. Easier to hold than the stylus that came with my tegra. I've also put a screen protector on it so I'm not worried about marks on it.
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I just purchased a set of standard wooden pencils and a set of 3 solid graphite pencils (HB),
both sets work but is somewhat hit and miss whether they work or not. I also found that the tip of a screwdriver
works fine (but not suggesting that you use that permanently). Best item that I've found is the back-end of the
standard wooden pencils, works like a charm without any skipping. What I want now is one of those little diary
pencils that I can jam into the stylus slot.
EDIT: Painted rounded solid wooden pencil end, not eraser
StainlessS said:
I just purchased a set of standard wooden pencils and a set of 3 solid graphite pencils (HB),
both sets work but is somewhat hit and miss whether they work or not. I also found that the tip of a screwdriver
works fine (but not suggesting that you use that permanently). Best item that I've found is the back-end of the
standard wooden pencils, works like a charm without any skipping. What I want now is one of those little diary
pencils that I can jam into the stylus slot.
EDIT: Painted rounded solid wooden pencil end, not eraser
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You've probably already tried this, but make sure your screen is clean if you're using pencils. The tip is so small (that's what she said) that any oil or dirt on the screen can interfere with the touch sensor. You also have to dull the point a bit; I sharpen a pencil and then scribble all over a piece of paper to round the edge down, and then it works like a charm!
I had originally not taken the point down enough (too sharp) and that was the cause of skipping, with a rounded tip
the solid graphite pencil works just fine. I also chopped off about 1/3 of the back end and ground a fat chisel edge
somewhat similar to the back end of the Nvidia stylus. (I take it that some have yet to find that both ends of the stylus
work, and the fat end is great for use in the Tegra Draw app, took me about 3 months to find out the thick end also works).
I still kinda like the fat end of a rounded painted pencil, smoother than the solid graphite pencil and not as hard (less of a ding as you stab at the screen). Strangely, a straight cut pencil end does not seem to work at all, the only ones that did have been
rounded end and painted, think the paint must be relevant for some reason.
Is there a cheap stylus pen that can be found on ebay or dx.com that would work as the original pen? In case one needs a replacement other than the original pen.
Anyone ever tried this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834951002
At $35, it looks rather expensive.
You can buy them direct from Nvidia as "Shield Direct Stylus 2" and on Amazon as "NVIDIA SHIELD Tablet Stylus".