rSAP not working after Android 2.2 (Froyo) upgrade.? - Galaxy S I9000 General

I'm starting a new thread on this because I think it is important and to gather together findings on this.
From early reports it seems that rSAP is not working for some people after upgrading to Froyo.
rSAP is not part of any Android build but is built in to the Galaxy S by Samsung, which is why it is the only Android phone to support this.
Samsung seem to say it is still there but all the reports I have read suggest otherwise, although one member has posted on this forum saying it works for him. This leaves us with four possibilities:
Some Bluetooth settings have changed which disable rSAP (I can find none.)
Some network settings have changed which disable rSAP. As rSAP is a GSM only protocol, which is why it doesn't work on 3, this is a possibility. I see the network setting is now for Auto GSM/WCDMA mode, which did cause problems on a previous Nokia with rSAP. Possibly changing to GSM only could resolve this.
Various builds of Froyo do not include rSAP. It is possible, for example, that the 3 build does not and the upcoming O2 build may include it.
Samsung really have made a rick and left it out of the build.
Currently my Mercedes-Benz is in for a respray and I have no way of testing any of this.
I'd be interested in hearing others experiences. This is a serious issue for me as I purchased the Galaxy S precisely because it did support rSAP. If it is now removed then the reason I bought the phone is gone and Samsung owe me a refund under the sale of goods act.

Just had a reply from Samsung support who say that if rSAP isn't working it is a software issue and to take the phone to a Samsung service centre. Given that the rSAP profile is a Samsung thing and not an Android thing perhaps this means some Froyo installations fail to initialize the rSAP profile.

So, for the avoidance of doubt, has anyone actually confirmed they've got rSAP working when running Froyo?

Someone has... reply #7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824950

I can confirm that RSAP is working on my german I-9000. I am currently running Tayutamas Froyo (1.03) and using my phone with a VW PSFE. The issue that contacts are only imported from the sim card still remains.

So far all the reports of rSAP continuing to work after Froyo seem to be VW users. Mercedes-Benz, Audi and possibly Porsche seem to be the users reporting issues.

Just installed the VW 3C8035730A module to replace the rSap only 5N0035730C.
I have a HTC Touch HD that works as a rSap and a Iphone 4 that works as HF now. Android should should work i guess too.
You can read my post here: http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/182537-installed-rns510-module-3c8035730a-rsap-bluetooth/

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rSAP connectivity

Sadly enough I have noticed that the xperia X1 does not like my premium volkswagen carkit. As used in passat or audi or skoda superb, bmw, Mercedes, etc.
I have an RNS-510, but have also tried it with a RNS-310. Both having the premium carkit in it. Also called carkit III.
It uses rSAP to enable transfer of contacts and phone settings control.
I have tested with a nokia N95 and it works perfectly fine with that after you enable the remote sim access profile. Also known as SAP.
Sadly enough, the X1 refuses to connect. The carkit just says the phone is not compatible.
Anybody have any clue what to do?
Maybe a custom ROM which does have this functionality? Or a tool that can be added?
u r talking about remote sim access right?
my rom (cmex absolute touch) got an option to enable it under bluetooth setting (connections)
Yes or You use this little cab! Works perfectly with VW Golf VI PRemium Handsfreekit. I used the smaller file, but if it dont works try the bigger one!
In the bluetoothsettings you should find the sap profile after the installation, and in the programs a small utility to activate it. the Xperia himself has no SAP Profile!
wow!
I definately came to the right place! I will try this out tommorow first thing and let you know if it works!
Thnx's again. Also considering your rom now achmed20, because I believe this is quite basic functionality which should have been there in the first place!
As I said, I'll let you know if this worked!
not working yet
Well, that helped, a bit.
I get to the connection screen, have to enter the 16 digit pincode and after that the car just says connecting, and stays doing this for a minute or two and then just says failed or not compatible.
So I'm a lot further, but it isn't working yet! I'm thinking because of all the things I have tried, I might have broken it somewhere, but unsure how or what.
Thinking of maybe flashing it with a different (custom) rom, to see if that might fix the problem.
Anyone have any other advice?
no experience with the kind of trouble your having but if you want to try off on a fresh start, i would do a hard reset, then install the cab fix that was recommended.
still not working
I just installed the cmEX absolute TOUCH rom and did a hard reset after that.
Enabled rsap on the last tab of bluetooth and the car says its connecting and just does that for a long time (after entering pin code). Sadly enough, it just times out.
Anybody have any clue what could be the problem? I have the feeling we are allmost there, but there is just a little thing causing it to time out.
rsap even says it's connected to my skoda and everything.
From what I can gather, the cmEX absolute TOUCH rom is based on a touch HD.
more testing!
Okay, from what I have been able to gather, the following is going on.
The carkit is trying to log on in a frequency that it cannot handle.
I have been able to connect the carkit, download the address book and make calls with my Xperia now. No problems what so ever....except one. I was using a SIM from a collega whom has a different network!
I use t-mobile and my collegea has kpn/telfort. Doing more research, I have learned that kpn/telfort and vodaphone use the 1800 band frequency. And that t-mobile uses the 900 frequency.
I am not entirely certain at this point that this truly is the real problem, but, my phone works, my carkit and car works, so all the software bits are in sync, but only using a different sim. Rebooting the phone, changing nothing but the sim, makes it completely broken again!!
I'm using a RNS-510 with the Skoda/VW premium carkit. If anyone is able to shed some light on this and what possible fixes could be, I'd really like to hear!
I have been looking (and mailed) if a fiscon unit could potentionaly fix this problem. They also have units which intergrate with the system.
But I'd rather find a software solution, obviously. Sadly enough, manny cases can be found where people have problems, often, with no solution. This problems is *NOT* specefic to the Xperia, I do realize that now, since the new ROM, rSAP is working just fine.
more complex then ever....
Okay, things just more complex then ever before.
My x1 using a HTC touch HD rom base and rSAP from HTC (default in rom).
KPN sim = works and can call
Vodaphone sim = logs in but carkit crashes on trying to connect to cell towers. But car connection functions.
T-mobile sim = connection to carkit never gets finished.
I'm totally lost. Using a friends N95, all the sims work flawlessly.... which makes me even more clueless, because the carkit reads the sim data and then connects using it's own radio to the cell network.
Please, advice? How can this be fixed? Is there a different version of the HTC rSAP software available maybe?
The plot thickens again.
Using my sim card in my X1, not working. Original ROM, Original ROM + rSAP extensions, cooked rom from touch HD with native rSAP. Just non-functional.
Using the exact same phone, without the t-mobile sim but with the KPN sim, works perfectly, no problems what so ever.
Using an older Nokia E50, both sims work flawlessly, also my t-mobile sim.
This leads me to one conclusion and that is that the HTC rSAP implementation is seriously bugged.
Anyone have any idea on how to proceed? Somewhere I have read that the HTC's wouldn't handle 3G or UMTS sims and only use older ones. But, using the KPN sim I connect to 3G and it works. Also the nokia E50 of N95 can use any network and it just plain works. There for that statement is wrong in my opinion and it is caused by buggy software of HTC.
Anyone have a good idea on how to proceed? Lots of people having this problem and buying nokia's, but for no real reason other then buggy software it seems.
I really like my X1, and payed a lot of money for it, so I really need this to start working.... Please assist and help, also people with a diamond or other HTC, using the same software.
sadly enough, no progress
Did some tests again today, but sadly enough, no progress yet.
I'm going to try and get a hold of a Touch Diamond and a Touch HD and see how those preform with my sim. If my suspiciouns are correct, they will also fail, making this a combination of bad software with bugs with certain sim's.
That is the conclusion I am faced with right now... sadly enough, no idea how this can be remedied.
Are there developers whom might be able to write a reliable rsap implementation or will HTC ever come with a working version?
What do you guys think?
Sonyericsson will not provide SAP for the Xperia. Thats the point....
Been in contact with support
I have been in contact with Sony-Ericsson support and they tell me they cannot make the X1 compatible, because it is not just software.
Off course, to me this sound like total bull****, seeying I have allready had an raap connection with the X1. But this was either using HTC software add-on's or using a rom that was based on the htc touch HD.
Sadly enough, I cannot work without this functionality... and thus will be forced to sell my phone and buy... a nokia.... not bad, since I have had nokia's all my life. But I really really do not eNjoy beying forced to do so.
But everybody has known that the xperia has no SAP Profile... in every test, in every Datasheet you can see it! Why you buyed an xperia?
Wrong order
I orderd the x1 around the same time I orderd my new car (Skoda Superb II 2.0 TDI Ambition Business line ).
The car came with a carkit that can only do rSAP, but it is very very nicely intergrated with a external antenna, full adress book acces, etc. etc.
To my amazement, there was no rSAP on the phone, while all current high end models do carry support for it. Thus thought that a simple program or rom fix would provide it.... sadly enough, while some stuff works, it is very very flaky.
So it's a combination issue, off course I realize that. But I'd rather replace my phone and sell the x1, then having to change the carkit piece in my car (it is far more expensive). And still, I just cannot believe that such a basic function, is not in there.
Especially because it is made by HTC, which do carry this functionality!
So the problem was created by having both products in the same time frame. And my reluctance to believe such a high end phone would not carry this protocol.
From closer reading though. It seems that the x1 (with a custom rom) is not at fault here. If my speculations are right, any htc device with rsap from factory even has a big change that it is not going to function. Also reflected by my tests.
Using a HTC touch HD based rom on the X1, rsap is added and functions brilliantly using a KPN sim. Vodaphone works sometimes and crashes the carkit now and then and using a t-mobile sim, it does not work, at all. Since I have a t-mobile business account... it doesn't work at all for me.
I have not been able to get a hold of a Touch HD or Touch Pro to test if these problems also form on that phone, but will do so when I get the change.
So for now, even the HTC software seems to be bugged and thus I have formed my conclusion that my best option is to go back to nokia (which I have used for about 10 years now). The x1 is great, but not beying able to call in the car.... that just isn't going to work for me.
The new N97 looks pretty decent....
I have a jetta 06 tdi with mfd2(dvd version rev c) and skoda (kufatec) bluetooth modul installed by myself. I can do a Synchronisation of the Phonebook with Names and Numbers , dialed and missed calls , incomming calls with Names and i have a option to accept or decline a Call from the fis display , using my Multifunction Steering Wheel. Everything working perfect with my Xperia x1i.
Hmm
Most likely that module is a fiscon module or an older part of skoda. Am I correct?
The fiscon does not use rsap and older premium carkits from VW also did not. But their newest carkits included in the passat CC and skoda superb II are rsap only.
Quindor said:
Most likely that module is a fiscon module or an older part of skoda. Am I correct?
The fiscon does not use rsap and older premium carkits from VW also did not. But their newest carkits included in the passat CC and skoda superb II are rsap only.
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Im not sure we can post a direct link here to another website , but there is what im using in my Jetta : http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_....html/XTCsid/9f268df051bdc7806c7825cc426d606c
Old Version
Ah, yes. That is an orginal skoda part, but it is the older version from the Superb I and not the Superb II. That uses the other profiles and not rSAP.
touch HD behaves just the same
Hi everybody.
I had the chance to test both X1 (rSAP from cabs in post #3, thanks by the way) and HD (native rSAP implementation) on a VW touareg premium car kit and I must say they suffer from the same problems: most of the time the connection is established, but immediately drops and enters an endless loop of connection/disconnection, where everything can happen: car kit crashes, phone crashes, vodafone goes bankrupt, etc.
What hurts the most, though, is that very rarely and randomly, the connection with X1 is firmly established and everything, for unknown reasons, starts to work fine. This drives me crazy, for it would be a lot easier to cope if the feature wasn't available full stop.
Nonetheless, this makes me think a solution must exist somewhere, but I'm too much of a noob to find it...
Hope this helps, byebye.

What's the problem with Hero based ROM's and BlueTooth?

Hello.
Before you tell me... I already searched the forum and I can see many posts about the problems with BlueTooth in the Hero based ROM's, but none of these posts I read (I could have missed some, of course) say what the problems are exactly, so I don't know if it can be a problem for me or not.
The only things that I need from BT are connection to the Parrot CK3000 handsfree on my car, and to send/receive files over BT. Ocassionally I will use the Magic as a 3G modem, but I can do it through USB if not working through BT.
Are these BT features affected by these BT problems on Hero based ROM's?
Thanks in advance.
Not sure if this applies to all hero roms but in the 'jacxheroskiv' rom the problem is a missing shared object (just a missing file in the filesystem)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4479554&postcount=96
Hi There
At the moment Bluetooth is problematic on all hero roms for the sapphire or otherwise. Audio head sets (wireless headphones) seem to work ok but everything else doesn't. So unfortunately your car kit won't work. (I have the same one, it pairs but the audio is garbled) File sharing on the other hand is a problem for all the androids so far (There is an app on the market that provides the functionality but it's not as elegant as it could be) so don't expect that to work on hero roms. I haven't tried Bluetooth tethering because WiFi tether works so well. Perhaps someone else could comment.
Now for the difficult part...
So far as I can tell a willing developer, correct me if I'm wrong, could make the Bluetooth work if the source code for the hero was made available (should be available in a few months if the recent release of the sapphires source code is anything to go by) There seem to be quite a number of people who need this functionality so I'm sure one of the rom cookers will get to it but unfortunately there is no way to know exactly when. For this reason I've decided to stick to the ion roms for now. In any event, Touchflo/Sense UI will be made officially available for the magics in due course...for a price of course
On another note any support financial or otherwise is greatly appreciated by the developers so if you want to encourage a particular functionality a few bucks and a friendly message will go a long way. Please remember though that the developers do this kind of thing for the love of it and provide no explicit support for their roms. Any and all risk is taken upon yourself but in most cases caveats will have been picked up by someone before hand.
Sorry if I've mentioned some things you already knew but I thought to add some info applicable to other newcomers.
Enjoy hacking!!
Thanks both.
I guess I'll have to use a non-Hero ROM then. As for the BT file transfer, I've seen at least one Cupcake ROM with it enabled and available as an option in the BT menu. I don't know what ROM it was though, I think I saw it in a Youtube video.
P.S.: I noticed that this thread was moved to "Sapphire general", sorry for put it in "development", I did it for it was related to Hero ROM's. Thanks mods for move it.
A2DP works for my Sony Ericsson HBH-DS205 - music streams flawlessly.
However, the call feature does not work - is this another common bluetooth problem with the HEROs?

rSAP for Desire

Hello all
I have HTC Desire and a VW with BT Premium Kit, which only supports rSAP.
I have been looking into forums for an application which can enable rSAP on Desire, but I have been unsuccessful in my searches.
Some say that this is working for Android 2.1 Update 1, but I was not able to pair the devices.
Does anyone have this working?
Is there any Android Apps Developer who is willing to try to do this?
Thanks
my desire works well with my VW BT
i can dial and have my contacts available
the only thing which is not working is sms
rSAP
Can you please tell me how you did it?
My VW detects my phone, but says always "phone not compatible" or something like that.
Did you get it working on the first try? Do you have RNS510?
What SW do you have on your desire?
rSAP
Ragardin rSAP for VW i can say the following:
It's not working
If u have new VW (i have Golf mk6) with new RCD/NCD 510 multimedia and u have bluetooth kit for mobile phone, Desire will not be able to be found by your/mine media system, coz android haven't this stupid rSAP protocol. I can't explain how mad I'm now about this. It has more than 10 protocols for BT, but not rSAP.
So i bought Desire today and turned it back in store 30 mins ago. This is extremely good device, but without rSAP its useless for me...
I took HD2 and i will turn it back as well btw
I hope that some1 could tell us, is the rSAP support hardware option or software. If its hw option - than it sucks...
Dear friends, please, follow the link:
http :// code .google .com
and add stars to "Issue 4402: rSAP / Sim access bluetooth profile"
Hope this action could help us.
android rSAP
yes, I already starred this issue with rSAP. It is soooo frustrating - having 2 perfect devices, desire and passat with handsfree, and they cannot speak together - really frustrating. Old parrot handsfree had no problems!
If anyone has a solution, please let us know.
are there any news on rSAP development ?
I have hope that some smart developer will figure it out, how to add it to andorid....
Best regards!
maybe this could be helpful for a developer:
http://allforfreelancers.com/getafr...Android-iPhone-J2ME-Nokia-Symbian-726296.html
Regards!
I am wondering why there is absolutely no response on rSAP development discussions?
Is it because no developer has a clue what needs to be done and if there is (even a tiny) chance to develop rsap support for Desire or is it just the lack of any interest from the side of the developers?
I am sure a lot of people would actually buy the app or upgrade that would enable this feature, so interest should be there...
I guess the main reason why nobody has written an app so far is that the necessary funtions for accessing the SIM card are missing in the Android RIL interface. So it will never be possible to write a universal rSAP app for all Android mobiles. Apart from that basic problem there are some other smaller obstacles to master. And of course you will need root access, at least to install the necessary files.
I did some reengineering on the HTC RIL lib and found a way to access the SIM card on the HTC Magic and probably on the Desire. I guess the other HTC mobiles should work too.
Next I've written a test app running on my HTC Magic that implements the rSAP protocol. It was working with an old 2G SIM card before the card expired. I tested it with a Nokia 616 and with a VW Passat. But now I'm having problems with my 3G (UICC) card. Currently I'm still not sure if I get it running but I'll keep on trying.
thank you for your answer and efforts. at least there is some hope that this will work until I sell my car...
did you use some of the Galaxy S libs?
please, keep us informed on the development!
Best regards!
No, I don't have a Galaxy.
Of course I'll let you know when I have it running. But it will take a few weeks at least.
HI rsap.
That sounds like great job!
If it worked on Magic, it would probably work on Dream/G1 as well, am I right?
If it does, would you help me out with it?
Thanks a lot in advance
it would be amazing, if you'd be able to achieve this =)
and i'm sure, people will pay or at least donate for this app! (me included)
thanks in advance!
Another user posted in this forum "Samsing just made the sourcecode (search: Samsung releases Captivate source code) so there seems to also be a ZIP file for the GT-I9000 (European Samsung Galaxy S)."..maybe this could help you further.
Regards!
I will donate!!!
i want RSAP also , any body have the solution yet? i know it works on Samsung Galaxy S but know i have htc Desire HD it only works us hand free profile!!!!
Regards!!
RSAP where are you? Any news?
You should check again the compatibility, with audi a4 mine hasn't been working but with the 2.29.405.2 it's like charm. Sends pb, received dialled calls and everything. Excellent.
It's still not working but I don't give up hope...
I know enough about the RSAP protocol, the HTC RIL lib and SIM cards. If there is someone out there who knows something about the HTC radio software, especially the AT commands it would be helpful. I could not find anything useful in the net.
Works again on my Magic! I need some time to clean up the software port it to Desire (and other HTCs) and make it installable.
I'll let you know!
WOW! Well done!
Would it be portable to G1 (Dream)?
Please, let me know.
Thanks a lot

Bluetooth A2DP issues w/ 2.1

So, I have searched all over these forums, and cannot find a difinitive answer or solution. I have problems with A2DP when connecting w/ the BT in my car, since installing a 2.1 ROM (currently DC 2.09.01). When connected, the music plays about twice as fast as it should, then slows down, then speeds up again. Conversley, Android 1.5 worked fine. There has been a lot of talk of BT issues, but it doesn't appear there are any solutions. Am I correct, or has someone found a solution? THanks.
ZenEXP works if you dont mind switching.
I have had those problems occasionally with all 2.1 ROMs I have tried. Usually, if I pause and then unpause it solves the problem. Sometimes I have to do it more than once.
I'm currently running ZenEXP and I've had the problem a few times, but it has been significantly less than with other ROMs. However, AVRCP hasn't been working with ZenEXP, whereas it has worked on other 2.1 ROMs, such as DC.
So, with the unrooted stock Sprint 2.1 software, A2DP works?
The Darchdroid ROM actually fixes this problem! I had the exact same problem as you with playing audio in my 2010 Mazda 3 and Darchstar's ROM fixed it for me, it's the only ROM I have found so far that fixes the bluetooth
I have a problem with my bluetooth headset when I'm playing music, the music stutters alot, I almost have to hold my phone a certain way with very little movement in order for it to play decently. Any solutions on that problem?
I have a problem with my bluetooth headset when I'm playing music, the music stutters alot, I almost have to hold my phone a certain way with very little movement in order for it to play decently. Any solutions on that problem?
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Turn off/disconnect headset while playing music fixes studdering for me in settings under bluetooth for the connected device. Disconnect the ' phone' while playing. Haven't really tested this on anything but my kenwood head unit.
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here's a reply I received from HTC support:
Hello, I understand that you have had issues with your bluetooth since the update for your Hero. With the update, the entire bluetooth stack was updated, and thus some bluetooth devices that previously worked are unfortunately no longer compatible. While we have not heard any information about nor made announcements about any upcoming patches to address this, it is not at all out of the realm of possibility. Otherwise, you may want to try a different bluetooth headset. I do apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced. If you have any other questions, feel free to contact us again. You can find additional support at support forums at community.htc.com. There is also a customer satisfaction survey for you to take if you are interested. Philip HTC Technical Support www.htc.com www.twitter.com/htc
Bluetooth Stack?
So is it possible for one of the developers on this site to rewrite the bluetooth stack or copy the old one from 1.5 that worked?
I have a Panasonic TH12 bluetooth home phone that worked fine before 2.1. I recently bought an AT&T bluetooth phone and it does the same thing. Will pair but not connect.
aschlect said:
Hello, I understand that you have had issues with your bluetooth since the update for your Hero. With the update, the entire bluetooth stack was updated, and thus some bluetooth devices that previously worked are unfortunately no longer compatible. While we have not heard any information about nor made announcements about any upcoming patches to address this, it is not at all out of the realm of possibility. Otherwise, you may want to try a different bluetooth headset. I do apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced. If you have any other questions, feel free to contact us again. You can find additional support at support forums at community.htc.com. There is also a customer satisfaction survey for you to take if you are interested. Philip HTC Technical Support www.htc.com www.twitter.com/htc
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I have to call BS on this. (Not on the post, on the reply)
Why would any company not support legacy hardware as simple as Bluetooth. Especially since most devices aren't even Bluetooth v3/v4 standard yet. And Bluetooth 2.1 is 1. Not very old and 2. What 90% of Bluetooth device still manufactured are! and its been around since 2006!
I honestly can't believe a company is going to just say "Oh its to old" instead of fixing their crap. as far as I know v3/v4 is fully backwards compatible to 2.1 because they include "Classic Bluetooth" protocols!
Not to mention I doubt the hardware in our phone is even capable of v4 stuff. I'll have to do some more research on what BT chip is in the phone. Utter BS.
Either Phillip or HTC is a moron.
CDMA Hero Specs for BT:
Supported Profiles: HSP 1.1, HFP 1.5, A2DP, AVRC, (OPP, PBA)
version 2.0+EDR / possibly upgradeable to 2.1+EDR, plus OPP and PBA profiles
2.1 FULLY backwards compatible to v1. Meaning HTC built the crappiest BT Stack allowable by law to say it includes it. May as well have not bothered.
Someone could probably redo things with AOSP and a newer bluez stack.
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2.1 FULLY backwards compatible to v1. Meaning HTC built the crappiest BT Stack allowable by law to say it includes it. May as well have not bothered.
Someone could probably redo things with AOSP and a newer bluez stack.
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Yeah, I just bought a BT USB adapter so I could exchange files and synch and stuff. I got it to work ONE time and all it did was pass 200 of my contacts to my phone from my PC. Like it was just waiting to upchuck on me. After that, nothing.
There's three hours of my life and $8.99 I'll never get back.
Bluetooth is pretty much the #1 complaint that users have been posting on the Sprint Community Forums (here's the HTC Hero section). Nearly all of those complaints say that Bluetooth now doesn't work at all or just plain sucks on the stock 2.1 Sprint/HTC release. Which probably also means that any ROM here based on 2.1 stock will also suck it up bad with Bluetooth compatibility. Known problem, no one has done anything about it yet. It sounds like AOSP ROMs don't have this issue, so at least that's good.

HD2 NAND Android and SAP / RSAP?????

I have a HD2 Running stock build ROM but with CHT 2.0 and it's an awesome phone, love the fact that it is so customisable and despite WinMo 6.5 being discontinued it lives on with huge amounts of effort being poured into developing and porting....I am seriously considering flashing a NAND android ROM onto it instead of WinMo but have one BIG Problem!
Whilst trawling the threads ( and reading a million ' thanx' posts) well deserved I might add, I cannot find any comment or info anywhere as to whether flashing the HD2 to Android retains or removes the phones SAP/RSAP connectivity I have a 2010 VAG car and it uses the RSAP protocol and to be honest it is THE best handsfree in car solution I have ever used, ( and I have used most of them) very clear with great signal retention, as I use it for business I am loathe to lose it so you can all probably see my dilemma.....great OS or great handsfree.........anyone know the answer....it would be great if it does as R/SAP support is lacking on Android.......bar a website stating RSAP for android .....coming soon....HELP!!!!
daver38 said:
I have a HD2 Running stock build ROM but with CHT 2.0 and it's an awesome phone, love the fact that it is so customisable and despite WinMo 6.5 being discontinued it lives on with huge amounts of effort being poured into developing and porting....I am seriously considering flashing a NAND android ROM onto it instead of WinMo but have one BIG Problem!
Whilst trawling the threads ( and reading a million ' thanx' posts) well deserved I might add, I cannot find any comment or info anywhere as to whether flashing the HD2 to Android retains or removes the phones SAP/RSAP connectivity I have a 2010 VAG car and it uses the RSAP protocol and to be honest it is THE best handsfree in car solution I have ever used, ( and I have used most of them) very clear with great signal retention, as I use it for business I am loathe to lose it so you can all probably see my dilemma.....great OS or great handsfree.........anyone know the answer....it would be great if it does as R/SAP support is lacking on Android.......bar a website stating RSAP for android .....coming soon....HELP!!!!
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Im not too sure about the specific SAP/RSAP, but using my bt widget to my trucks bt stereo works great.
Thanks for your reply but BT is different than RSAP, its a specific VAG Group, BMW and Mercedes type of Hands free, works brilliantly but the compatibility of the latest phones is none existant other than Nokia.....that's not a direction I want to be going in as from my experience Nokias are shocking quality in the software department.
Can no one offer any advice on this, the rSAP problem with decent compatible phones is a HUGE problem across europe, covering VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat, BMW And Mercedes, there are loads of people looking for an answer to this?
Thanks in advance......
Cant think of a way of saying this without sounding like im being funny and i really dont mean to be but why dont you just flash a rom and try it and if it dont work flash back to winmo you can back up before you flash. Or try an SD version. (Dont mean to sound sarcastic)
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android-rsap[dot]com
I think someone is on it.
I hope..........
[Q] rSAP & Android @HD2
Hello @ all
Excuse my bad English.
can someone help me install these files/app in to a SD Build?
w w w . android-rsap.com/installation.html
--> Step 1: Installing System Files
Thanks in advance
-----> the solution!!!
- rename original /system/lib/libhtc_ril.so to /system/lib/libhtc_ril.orig.so
- extract libhtc_ril.new.so from rsap-install.zip and copy to /system/libhtc_ril.so
alltho this thread is already a little old I still wanted to state, that the rSAP server developed by android-rsap.com is now fully working on the HD2 with only a few devices acting weird.I had it running on a MIUI build.
my problem tho is, that after flashing back to WinMo (stock or Duttys, doesn't make a difference) the rSAP function doesn't work with the VAG Premium any longer-it never connects, or if it does with a trick, it fails soon after.sometimes it freezes the hd2, sometimes it even freezes the premium...
re-flashing, task 29, mtty all didn't help. be warned people.it can seriously mess with your phone.
Did you try to flash back to stock? I have the same problem
My RCD510 didn't find my HD2. All other bluetooth devices around my were found
As I said, I tried everything but the car never connected properly to the HD2 again ever since using this rsap app. It must have left some weird connection settings in the car unit. I wanted to do a reset on that unit to test but I never managed. Now the car is sold and this thread obsolete until someone else comes up with this. Subject finished.
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