Hey everyone,
I wanted to taket the time and say a quick thank you to everyone that has taken time out of thier schedules to try cook roms, tweak registries, and build cabs to share with the community. Being a college student I can tell you that there are numerous times that I wanted to throw my device out of the window due to issues that I did not understand. I have always been fairly tech savy but I am new to the PPC WM world. I have always been able to visit this site for help, and to find whatever else I needed to unlock the full potential of my device. Even though I cannot donate to everone, I just wanted to let you know that your hours of hardword and frustration are very much appreciated by myself, all of the other members, and the thousands of un-named that visit the site on a day to day visit. Just remember this when you feel that you are not getting the recognization that you deserve. There are thousands of people out there that you help on a day to day basis. Keep up the good work and always remember that you are appreciated.
P.S. I was not sure wher eto post this but feel free to move it to whatever forum you feel would best suite it's needs.
I wish to do the same, just can't find enough word to show my appreciation. That is why I'm going to say one simple and huge: THANK YOU!
I too would like to thank all of the developers here. I can tell you I was about to buy a new phone when I happened across this site and brought my Blue angel into 2008 with all the wonderful ROMs and software found here. Thank you all no matter how big or small your contribution has been it has been appreciated. As I am not a coder all I can offer is support, which I try to do as regularly as possible here. To everyone keep up the great work.
I too would have to add to this. If it wasn't for this site and its hard working developers I wouldn't realize the full potential of my cell-y.
The only way I can contribute to this site is by donating to these talented and hard working developers so that they may continue to create some of the most usable/innovative programs only to ask for donations in return.
Much Appreciated to all....
Huge THANK YOU to all the cookers and developers indeed!
Without this site and all the people here my life would be shallow and meaningless misery...Well, not exactly, but thank you anyway!
Thank you!
Dear Eris Users who Are Waiting for Root,
I'd like to start by addressing all of you as a large audience. I may ask certain groups to leave. I hope they will respect that wish and then come back and join the larger group when I am done with each piece.
We all got the Droid Eris from Verizon. We all got it for different reasons. A lot of you, if not all of you, are here because you wanted an HTC phone that was rooted. You wanted the custom roms, the themes, the su privileges. This shining aura that was "root" was so appealing, that you took a plunge and bought the device before any work was really done on that. Now, some of you feel that you should receive, neigh, deserve root. I am so saddened by what this community, Eris users, not XDA, has turned into. The disbelievers, the demanders; what are you still doing here, complaining? Just leave if you have something mean to say.
To everyone: I'm a firm believer in the idea that if you don't have something important, information wise/helpful, to say on the forum, then don't post at all. I try to keep my fingers off the keyboard, and I have for a long time, but I cannot hold my silence. I used to post every day. I used to be excited to get onto XDA and see if something new had happened while I was away. When we got our own section of the forum, I was overjoyed! (Not really, but we needed a section) We had a pristine new subforum to play around in, and we trashed it. Our original root thread had to be closed because of how off topic and ridiculous it was. Our new thread has gone to crap and turned more into a flame war, than a place where we are looking for exploits and posting findings. Sadly, I wouldn't blame XDA for shutting that one down too. We, as a whole, have alienated developers and are now in danger of not getting root for a number of reasons.
No one deserves root, just like no one deserves $20 from a random stranger. Sure, it'd be nice to get it, but no one deserves it. We should all be thankful for the man hours that people have put in, for no money, to try and give us $20 a piece... I mean root this thing. Seriously, it's a community, not a business. Also, those who feel like it's not worth it to wait around, just leave. Don't make an exit if you're sitting around and not helping but you feel the need to announce that you are fed up, or tired of it. Root will come eventually. There has yet to be an android phone that hasn't been hacked, and we will not be the first one.
Lastly, I'm tired of the "HTC NEEDS to release the source code because it's our right to have it" argument. Sure, the source would help, but the iPhone has been hacked again and again and again with no source code. It comes down to good developers, and a thankful community. So, please stop riding that bandwagon. The source code will get here eventually, but you have to be patient.
To those of you who have been helpful: Thank you. To anyone who tried an exploit and posted findings, thank you. To anyone who compiled an exploit, who dumped their phone, who offered help, incite, or even a "keep it up", thank you. That's what a good hacking community does.
To Jmanly, Binny, Zifnab, rigamrts and others: Thank you for everything you've done to help us out. You are all a tribute to being a good forum member. We would not even be a fraction of where we are without Jmanly's guidance and it was sad to see him leave.
Where to go from here: I think we need to restart. Create a new thread where no negative talk will occur, people will only post things that help move us forward and people post their thanks to those who are doing all of us a favor. None of us deserve root. It's not owed to us because we got the phone. We should all be thankful for what some people with the know-how are doing for us. That should be all I have to say. I hope we can change a little bit for the better and maybe we can get back to trying to root.
-Video
Well said!
This is well put.
I can never quite understand the flaming or negative stuff.
I learned when I started out in WinMo Xperia Threads that people hassling or acting "Entitled" while you are working hard on a Mod or Rom or anything can be quite disheartening.
If it can be agreed upon, I would like to open a new thread, for root status and updates. (hopefully for the last time)
Or I can just add it to the bounty thread that is already open (I know and understand that most of us do this for the love of hacking and modding and out of a sense of community, but it is also a nice gesture and could really help someone that devotes time and effort to this)???
I would monitor it constantly and report any flaming and abuse to one of our great moderators immediatley.
What do you think?
here's how i felt when i first got my eris.
i was like great now i can see what's up and possibly help get root for the new addopters cause i did not get my g1 durring the first run. i missed out on the fun times of all the posts of people trying to hack the phone.
so when i first landed in the eris waters it was great the late night whiteboard sessions were fun throwing any idea no matter how idiotic it sounded and going to town. then we had our first 2 casualties jman and me cause some one took it apon himself to attack a guy who didn't even have our phone and was willing to help.
then we had today where that same person took it on himself to flame another dev the same way. now the 7 day ban might calm him down or send the message not to come back. but i thought it sould have been a perma-ban cause of past actions plus the disrespecting of a mod which is a no no. that mod i respect cause he acted profesionally and gave the community hope that this type of behavior will not be tollorated.
hopefully if things keep going in a positive direction i might jump back into fold but feel very heartbroken cause of the few bad apples.
Awesome post
as acid said, very well put.
i too never understood why not just in the "eris" section but yet in any section people have demanded such items to be released.
I agree with rigamrts, I have watched this board with aw in some of the things people have said to one another. If I had root to this phone I would P.M. the members I wanted to have it just to keep out the ones that act childish. But then wouldn't I be just as childish? So I would just stop, Do my own thing, and wait as a few of the people here have done. People with no interest in this device have nothing to lose by leaving besides maybe hearing their friend saying "come on man, come back. We won't let that happen again." Its a shame this happened in our community but as with the physical community I live in there are jerks. People that you wish would leave on their own accord but stick around with T.P. stuck to their shoes looking like idiots. Anyways, thanks for the help, keep working, and feel free to leave if things get retarded again. I would do the same.
I think it would be cool if everyone who was interested in CONTRIBUTING to the root, whether that be via coding, finding exploits, packing these things/making user friendly tutorials, could form, basically, a Dev team. They/we could have a blog, a place where they/we can get together and chat amongst ourselves about ideas and whatever. Hopefully, then, we could have a more concrete group of people WORKING TOGETHER to achieve this one goal.
If any of the people working on root are down for it, let's make it happen. Cool? Cool. Cool? Cool.
Videofolife13 said:
I think it would be cool if everyone who was interested in CONTRIBUTING to the root, whether that be via coding, finding exploits, packing these things/making user friendly tutorials, could form, basically, a Dev team. They/we could have a blog, a place where they/we can get together and chat amongst ourselves about ideas and whatever. Hopefully, then, we could have a more concrete group of people WORKING TOGETHER to achieve this one goal.
If any of the people working on root are down for it, let's make it happen. Cool? Cool. Cool? Cool.
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i could create a bolg on one of my unused email account
I think that moving the thread to the new one should work..
We have a couple of moderators all over this now..
And I can update everyday
I need you guys to update me on what to put im the 1st post so that we can get back on track
I think the blog is a great idea but the thing is we also need to keep the discussion here at XDA, the place that originally got us together. If we don't keep the support here we won't have a well known place to meet new Eris users that could potentially help. We can't do that because of one bad apple, this Is our meeting place and we need to show XDA the respect by continuing to trust their mods to do their jobs. Ya that guy should have been permanently banned but he wasn't so let's not punish XDA for that decision. My two pennies.
I agree that we need to hang out at XDA, but I also feel that we could move to somewhere where we can bounce around ideas without people hijacking threads or starting flame wars. I'm not trying to keep people in the dark, I just want to try a different place. Oh, and I'd like some people who know what they're doing to sign on. I'm just a visionary, I can't code. Haha
Ok guys here is the deal after what happend today I am a little upset I spend hours each day searching the web for exploits, why... to help. Here is what I may do, I might buy some webspace and set up a area for us to work together on. I am going to see if Jman will will join us, this is just a idea for right now. I will let you guys know when I clear my head.
Aren't there free blogs? Let's not throw money at this quite yet.
Oh, and I'm sorry you got upset with some people and also that I haven't been here in, well, a month or more. I thought the community was going stagnate. I'm here to stay and, like you, I'll be scrounging for exploits and doing my best to help those with the know-how by doing the leg work if they do the real work.
Free yes but I would like some were were we can upload files to and what not. Just a idea for right now.
Clear ur head man...take care
When ya come back.head over to the new no flaming thread
Videofolife13 said:
Aren't there free blogs? Let's not throw money at this quite yet.
Oh, and I'm sorry you got upset with some people and also that I haven't been here in, well, a month or more. I thought the community was going stagnate. I'm here to stay and, like you, I'll be scrounging for exploits and doing my best to help those with the know-how by doing the leg work if they do the real work.
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rigamrts.blogspot.com
just set up one for us.
Videofolife13 said:
I think it would be cool if everyone who was interested in CONTRIBUTING to the root, whether that be via coding, finding exploits, packing these things/making user friendly tutorials, could form, basically, a Dev team. They/we could have a blog, a place where they/we can get together and chat amongst ourselves about ideas and whatever. Hopefully, then, we could have a more concrete group of people WORKING TOGETHER to achieve this one goal.
If any of the people working on root are down for it, let's make it happen. Cool? Cool. Cool? Cool.
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Well I have the pro programs for Mac and Windows to make killer video tuts, so once we have this thing rooted, I can get that out of the way.
Oh and I can host web space for you too on my server, I just don't have any domains to run the site on. You could use your ways to get a domain. (Try shorturl.com that's what I use for most of my websites.)
Questions to [email protected].
CPCookieMan said:
Well I have the pro programs for Mac and Windows to make killer video tuts, so once we have this thing rooted, I can get that out of the way.
Oh and I can host web space for you too on my server, I just don't have any domains to run the site on. You could use your ways to get a domain. (Try shorturl.com that's what I use for most of my websites.)
Questions to [email protected].
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Good Stuff Cookie...
Come over to the new thread an help us out
Its in my sig...
No one deserves root, just like no one deserves $20 from a random stranger. Sure, it'd be nice to get it, but no one deserves it. We should all be thankful for the man hours that people have put in, for no money, to try and give us $20 a piece... I mean root this thing. Seriously, it's a community, not a business.
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Video I can agree where you are comming from, it does suck the fun out of the puzzle of rooting the device with all the flaming and demanding. But on the other side where I am, I am not a programmer or a linux genius. So we almost feel like leechers taking your work with out compensation for it. So the Pool for the dev that roots the Eris is our attempt to do our part in the give take relationship we have in this community.
Sure I could spend hours and hours and hope to get where you guys are or I can offer my monitary thanks for all your work.
I am not trying to point this thread in the wrong direction and I don't want to see a bunch of "I agree" replies. Just want to convey our side, the noobs and amatures that can't do the things that you do.
I am waiting patiently and if there is anything we the non-dev's can do let us know.
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Free yes but I would like some were were we can upload files to and what not. Just a idea for right now.
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I have my own web server that we can use. Let me know if you want to set something up.
would a google wave account work i have invites?
Id like to politely ask all members not to flame posts. Could we possibly get the devs to stay in this forum and work together to make the best roms possible for this phone. We have vry talented devs who do fantastic work, but with all the conflict and fighting lately, i think its forgotten that google shares with everyone to further the advancement of this os. If all the devs looked at this with googles perspective, there would be no fightin. You guys all do great work, lets keep it all at xda. Ive visited several of these new forums, all i hear are crickets. Xda gives devs a place to post their work and get good feedback. With all good comes the bad, unfortunatly any idiot can own a phone and a pc. Those idiots make things difficult, but it should be left up to the mods to revoke flamers abilities to post. Ive been a member longer than most everyone reading this post by 2 years, ive used 3 phones on xda and seen good devs come and go. Im a 42 yr old father of 2, i have to put up with immature crap all the time with my kids. Can everyone, including myself, just suck it up, act mature, and continue to make this the best android forum of all the phones? Thank you for reading. Peace.
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i pretty much agree donny, but i mean at the same time, if these devs wanna get all pissed off and not take the higher road, then let them leave. those forums will have maybe 20 members, and their work will reach ONLY those 20 members. at XDA, it could reach the world, plain and simple. it's up to them where they want to host their work, and it's up to them whether or not they want to be private, public, or take the "i'm taking my ball and going home" road.
I agree.. these people that basically go in these guys threads and proceed to blow them to try and get them to stay is just pumping their head up more. It seems like this has turned into some sort of competition rather than a place to share and develop for our phones. I appreciate all the work the devs do but my life won't be over if some of them stopped doing what they do. If devs stay or leave its really not that hard to take 5 min and register for another website and add another bookmark. If you like someone's work follow them and if you don't like their work let them leave. It's pretty simple. Act like adults and stop crying over people making decisions about THEIR work.
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Glad to see things have settled back down here. Nice to see most devs back, now if only the flamers can stay out of threads, id be perfect. Thanks everyone for making this place cool again.
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Dev's Rock!
I really do appreciate all the hard work all the Dev's have put into this. I would never flame or tell any of them that their work sucked, ever! They have made this phone an absolute joy to own and mess with in my spare time.
Thanks to all the Dev's for all their hard work.
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I really do appreciate all the hard work all the Dev's have put into this. I would never flame or tell any of them that their work sucked, ever! They have made this phone an absolute joy to own and mess with in my spare time.
Thanks to all the Dev's for all their hard work.
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I agree.
Brb, building a pedestal
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Brb, building a pedestal
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I am building a golden calf. Ha ha
If there was a serious issue here at XDA then it could be valid to get pissy, but not for the reasons they are.
Ah well, things move on. I noticed SR4.3 has a much smaller following over at his forum and I haven't bothered to check any other developers who left but I'd imagine it's the same.
There is a lot of development going on and a lot of ROM's so maybe they want to stand out a little more by trying to drag users over to their forum? I don't really get why so I think it's more ego based, then again that's part of the reason why many continue customizing and updating their ROM's.
So apparently XDA has all these problems?
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Hello
I thought of creating thread because I didn't find any thread like this in this'd forum
And in my experience a lot of developers have left development or xda due to the misbehaving of one idiot
Recently. One of my favorite developers removed his work from XDA
1) consider this as a thank thread I know a lot of developers as well as xda members have helped you out do a million things on your handheld and have made your phone worthwhile
And I also know that there is the thank button for it in every forum
But sometimes thanks just isn't enough
Sometimes the feeling is like telling them
Man I love you I might mention you in my will
I would possibly marry you if you were of opposite sex
So this is your place to thank every single guy that helped you in this forum
Whether he helped you root the phone or he helped you unbrick it out he gave you a great Rom anything that you can think of
And anything that you wish to say to those developers out there this is your place
2) for developers
I really request you to test this thread regularly and from time to time so that you people know how thankful we are for the work you do
This community respects you your work your dedication and your friendly attitude
3)I know every developer out there has at one point of tine have had this instance when an idiot comes up and criticizes to the extreme point
And I also know quite a few developers have stopped their work because o those idiots so here is what we want to say tothose and all developers
Guys
In life when you start doing something and someone comes along and says what you are doing.is bull shot
There are many things and many people better than you and u r doing has already been done or that it is a waste of time blah blah
Would you stop doing that thing
No you wouldn't and you shouldn't
If one man had stopped because of these idiots then we wouldn't have had electricity in our houses no phones in our hands and no aeroplanes to fly
Every great thing that has happened had happened because people persisted they refused to believe what others said they believed in themselves
So if some idiot comes to us thread and tried to act like the know it all sick just tell him to get lost
Yes I mean it tell him to get lost
You shouldn't stop doing what u r good just because someone doesn't like it or has some happy go ****ty thing to say
In fact no-one should stop doing what one is good at because someone says something
SO PLEASE KNOW THAT WE AT XDA ARE THANKFUL TO YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DID FOR US AND PLEASE DON'T LEAVE US BECAUSE OF SOME FOOL
3) FOR IDIOTS
I WOULD REQUEST THE MODS TO TAKE MATTERS OF INSULT TO DEVELOPERS SERIOUSLY
I created this thread to let every idiot who thinks he can come here and disrespect our developers know that we TAKE IT ****TING SERIOUSLY
YOU HAVE A RIGHT EXPRESS YOUR OPINION BUT AS A PERSON YOU ARE ALSO OBLIGED TO SAY WITHIN YOUR LIMITS WITH ANYONE ON THE BOARD UNLESS AND UNTIL HE MISBEHAVES FIRST
AND KNOW THIS THE END OF EVERY DISCUSSION CAN BE THE TWO PEOPLE AGREEING TO DISAGREE
THAT'S IT NO MORE
PLEASE DON'T LOOSE YOUR MORAL GROUND WHILE DISCUSSING SOMETHING
AND IF U DECIDE TO DO IT KNOW THIS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOU IN THE SAME LANGUAGE AS YOU ARE SPEAKING
THE DEVELOPERS AT XDA ARE DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING BECAUSE THEY LOVE IT
THEY ARE NOT BOUND TO HELP YOU
ARE NOT YOUR SLAVES
ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOUR PHONE DIES ON YOU OR YOUR MOTHER RUNS AWAY WITH YOUR NEIGHBOUR
EVERYTHING HERE IS FREE ADVICE TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT
BUT DON'T BE AN ASS AND COMPLAIN ABOUT IT IN A ****TING WAY
COS SOMEONE IS SPENDING A PART OF HIS LIFE IN DONATING TO THE COMMUNITY WHICH HE DOESN'T HAVE A NECESSITY TO DO
ALL OF YOU CAN'T PAY THEM FOR.THEIR TIME
AT LEAST SHOW THEM SOME RESPECT THAT'S IT
4)if you have any more suggestions regarding what this thread could be please pm me
If u think I am overreacting please keep it to yourself
If a duplicate thread exists please tell me
To mods if this thread it's against any regulations tell me I'll delete it asap
P.S. though I doubt thanking is against rules
NEVER INSULT A DEV PERIOD
NEVER
Just a note that XDA is not a public forum, and you most certainly are NOT free to express yourself however you want.
So here goes my gratitude
First if all I would like to thank yank for his awesome kernel
As a matter of fact I was going to throw my s3 due to multitasking issues but I. Somehow managed to convince myself to root and wait for sometime to see if I can find a way around multitasking
And I did in zram and swap which were both made available to me by.the most courteous man on XDA yank
So thank you yank for your awesome work
In my opinion he is the most helpful man on XDA who would answer every aspect of the question in utter detail and would always keep an open mind when discussing something and always assure you to use and find out what works for you and use it no matter what the theory says
Can't thank you enough man
Finally enjoying s3
Yanks kernel
Sotmax v13
Zram enabled
Swap enabled
Hey...totally agree...
Yank555 is a dev that we will all miss...most of his free time spent late at nite..many sleepness..on kernel development...
We cannot express our thanks enough for what he has delivered to us in making what i think the best kernel today...
Yank555...we respect
(Just thought i would comment before xda closes this thread)
Guys whats wrong with using the thanks button? That is one of the reasons why it was created afterall...
And about developers leaving XDA... we take this seriously as well but at the end of the day, its their choice, always remember that. As for the idiots... instead of ranting at them, why not just report them to us and let the XDA moderators and admins deal with them
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