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I mean all the way AOSP? I miss the Roms that were available for my G1...I thought the SenseUI would be awesome to have, but seriously...it actually sucks.
Yeah. There's AOSP 1.6, and DarchDroid is based off of AOSP 2.1. Do a search next time....
an all asop rom is not fully possible yet, theres a few out there but the camera doesnt work and a few other things but thats because they cant fix that until the official 2.1 comes out then we will have our fully aosp, theres darch vanilla, and darch droid, but a few things are missing as i stated above, if you are like me and you want a fully functionable aosp rom just wait until this update comes out then my friend we score, i hate sense, it blows...............ive been waiting for this a long time....dont even bother with the old aosp roms i mean their good but not 100%
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I mean all the way AOSP? I miss the Roms that were available for my G1...I thought the SenseUI would be awesome to have, but seriously...it actually sucks.
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Sounds like you should have gotten a Samsung Moment.
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Sounds like you should have gotten a Samsung Moment.
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i was about a **** hair from choosing a moment, almost wish i would have gotten one kinda, but then again idk, i hope a dev made use out of that decent processor
MatrixROM is all ASOP
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Here's the big answer to your question. All AOSP roms ARE possible. They just don't have all the functionality of Sense ROMs. DarchVanilla, or the link in my sig, will get you as close to aosp as you can get without breaking functionality.
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Here's the big answer to your question. All AOSP roms ARE possible. They just don't have all the functionality of Sense ROMs. DarchVanilla, or the link in my sig, will get you as close to aosp as you can get without breaking functionality.
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And might I add it's all HTCs fault because they won't release the .29 kernel source and their massive amount of modification to it disallows the ability to just port over a .29 kernel as it is... What Android was all about in the first place.
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Sounds like you should have gotten a Samsung Moment.
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Haha, I have one of those too...but let me tell you, if you flash 2.1 on it, and even THINK about thinking about looking at it to go online or play a game....or make a call, your battery drains.
HeroMeng...I'll check that one out. Thanks.
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HeroMeng...I'll check that one out. Thanks.
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No prob.
Is there just a bug-free non cyanogen ASOP rom out right now, i am not feeling adventurous.
what im thinking is like a vanilla Ivans. I'm guessing there isn't one?
Framework's Senseless ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686870
Marisa said:
Framework's Senseless ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686870
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It buggy and I think there were things that dont work. Framework has never updated it, so I wouldn't expect any updates to what doesn't work.
I suggest giving cyanogen elb a try, it is the most complete aosp rom we have right now.
Kaosfroyo would be a good choice in the near future for you. In the next rev of kaosfroyo, he will prolly have more of the devices working. Right now all the things like wifi, bluetooth, camera and such arnt working yet.
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It buggy and I think there were things that dont work. Framework has never updated it, so I wouldn't expect any updates to what doesn't work.
I suggest giving cyanogen elb a try, it is the most complete aosp rom we have right now.
Kaosfroyo would be a good choice in the near future for you. In the next rev of kaosfroyo, he will prolly have more of the devices working. Right now all the things like wifi, bluetooth, camera and such arnt working yet.
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Yeah, I have tried ELB, I like it, but it is still choppy and not smooth as i would like. yeah, I am waiting for the next rev of kaosfroyo, but i need something to hold me over, i guess i will stay with senseable.
Fresh (should be out very soon) supposedly has an aosp version.
I think the choppiness you describe is inherent with ADWLauncher that is included with CELB. I removed it and went to Launcher Pro. It can be choppy, but the latest update includes memory management that allows you to allocate how much memory the launcher uses. I also disable "wallpaper scroll" and it really brings it a lot closer to a Sense like experience. You could also add the original Android launcher or Launcher2.
Just some thoughts. It is the closest you are going to get to AOSP right now. I'm also waiting for KaosFroyo to get more stable.
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I think the choppiness you describe is inherent with ADWLauncher that is included with CELB. I removed it and went to Launcher Pro. It can be choppy, but the latest update includes memory management that allows you to allocate how much memory the launcher uses. I also disable "wallpaper scroll" and it really brings it a lot closer to a Sense like experience. You could also add the original Android launcher or Launcher2.
Just some thoughts. It is the closest you are going to get to AOSP right now. I'm also waiting for KaosFroyo to get more stable.
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I can vouch for this too, ADW on CELB was choppy for me as well. Simply installing LauncherPro fixed that. Other than that CELB has been pretty damn good to me as far as stability goes.
Senseless is good, as far as pure vanilla non Cyanogen roms go, it just hasn't been update in a while. That isn't a bad thing, there really isn't anything that it needs changed.
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Fresh (should be out very soon) supposedly has an aosp version.
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the devs won't be releasing it here on xda. All the whiny *****y people in their thread pissed them off. They were *****ing bc the dev delayed the promised update bc his truck broke down. Its just a phone. People really need to calm down around here. Eh back on topic, if you want the rom when available, see their blog. Sure their thread will give directions in the op on where to find it, unless they change their minds.
The title of the thread is HTC Supersonic:EVO 4G....If people do not like SENSE, why not we create a seperate thread for them? Sense is HTC thing I think.
Sense comes with 4G....Others do not...No matter how hard they try...
Its okay flame it...I am in 4G area and I want ROMs with 4G. Or name one stable non-sense rom with 4G.
Sense haas nothing to do with 4g
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what the f is your point?
I don't get it.
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The title of the thread is HTC Supersonic:EVO 4G....If people do not like SENSE, why not we create a seperate thread for them? Sense is HTC thing I think.
Sense comes with 4G....Others do not...No matter how hard they try...
Its okay flame it...I am in 4G area and I want ROMs with 4G. Or name one stable non-sense rom with 4G.
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Couple things here. You spelled Sense wrong in the first word. And why would you post this in DEVELOPMENT?? Yea, its a Sense phone, but people don't want all the clunk. Slows down the phone a lot compared to AOSP, have you even tried AOSP?
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I don't get it.
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+1...3rd graders shouldnt be allowed to post
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The title of the thread is HTC Supersonic:EVO 4G....If people do not like SENSE, why not we create a seperate thread for them? Sense is HTC thing I think.
Sense comes with 4G....Others do not...No matter how hard they try...
Its okay flame it...I am in 4G area and I want ROMs with 4G. Or name one stable non-sense rom with 4G.
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umad? umad?
no one forces you to download non-sense roms, its a preference, just like the car you drive, the brand of cereal you eat, the kind of clothing you choose to wear.
Which AOSP should I try which gives all the ease of SENSE ( Spelled correct I think), with 4G and stability of stock rom? If you can point me to one I would appriciate it.
My point was why not work on making a better SENSE ROM, that windows mobile people used to do.
Sweety no one forces me to download anything, its just that this sections says its for HTC while it seems like its more for AOSP.
ITT: the op has no idea what is going on in the android development section lol
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Which AOSP should I try which gives all the ease of SENSE ( Spelled correct I think), with 4G and stability of stock rom? If you can point me to one I would appriciate it.
My point was why not work on making a better SENSE ROM, that windows mobile people used to do.
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Does your mom know you're on the computer this late?
Shouldn't you be doing your grammar and sentence structure homework?
success100 honey shouldnt should not be "shouldnt" it should be "shouldn't"
yay grammar police! but really, i still dont get the thread
How's the battery life on this rom?
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How's the battery life on this rom?
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Pretty bad.
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Sweety no one forces me to download anything, its just that this sections says its for HTC while it seems like its more for AOSP.
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HTC is a corporation that manufactures these phones.
The Evo was made by HTC. The Evo runs Android.
HTC made an interface to place over Android OS (Sense). AOSP is Android OS without the Sense add-on. Both are Android OS.
Now that we cleared that up, the dev forum supports both Sense and AOSP because both use Android OS. What would be the point of two different development forums, one for AOSP and one for Sense? There would be a good reason if it weren't for the fact that in the thread titles you can clearly see AOSP or Sense. Just use control + F.
Spotted this beauty on the latest post section on the xda app and I couldn't help myself. This is utterly brilliant.
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Pretty bad.
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Oh well. I hate Sesnse anyway.
Well I'm not even going to say most of the things that I want to about this thread, but I will say this.............OP: you ask what stable non-Sense ROMs have 4G? I run 2 that I know are stable and have 4G and they are Virus Airborne and Calkulin Evio. AND, they both have Sense features as far as dialer, lockscreen, keyboard, email, etc., just not the Sense launcher. I love using Launcher Pro Plus instead of Sense anyway, but prefer Sense for the other things so these ROMs are perfect for me as they are a mix. Also, these ROMs have .zips so you can make it all AOSP if you want...the choice is yours. So, search the forums for a change, and try out some ROMs before starting a thread ranting about stuff that you dont know about.....peace
I feel like the Aria is slow with developments. NOT COMPLAINING, I love liberated and CM6 (awesome, btw) but when do you think new ROMS are going to come out?
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I feel like the Aria is slow with developments. NOT COMPLAINING, I love liberated and CM6 (awesome, btw) but when do you think new ROMS are going to come out?
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New ROMS based on what??? We have HTC Sense ROMs for Eclair 2.1 and Froyo 2.2 and AOSP CM 6.1. What else are you looking?
Personally I hate visiting the other device forums because everybody and their brother has 'cooked' up another ROM (mostly just new themes or added favorite apps). IMO who has time to stiff through all the various ROMs and threads? I find it much easier to review 3 different ROM threads and try to help others than to try and go through 10 or 15 threads and seeing messages such as 'well this worked on this ROM but it doesn't on that ROM, why not?'
OK, I'll get off my soap box now...
I agree. Plenty of good variety in the ROMs we have.
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New ROMS based on what??? We have HTC Sense ROMs for Eclair 2.1 and Froyo 2.2 and AOSP CM 6.1. What else are you looking?
Personally I hate visiting the other device forums because everybody and their brother has 'cooked' up another ROM (mostly just new themes or added favorite apps). IMO who has time to stiff through all the various ROMs and threads? I find it much easier to review 3 different ROM threads and try to help others than to try and go through 10 or 15 threads and seeing messages such as 'well this worked on this ROM but it doesn't on that ROM, why not?'
OK, I'll get off my soap box now...
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Agreed. You cleared some things up.
Hopefully we'll get an official Aria Froyo update before Christmas...
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Agreed. You cleared some things up.
Hopefully we'll get an official Aria Froyo update before Christmas...
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Complete with AT&T bloatware no doubt
You can always go buy an EVO or Desire and take your pick from upteen different ROMs
tpbklake said:
Complete with AT&T bloatware no doubt
You can always go buy an EVO or Desire and take your pick from upteen different ROMs
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There's nothing wrong with that actually. Sometimes it's a good thing because there are more people developing towards something greater. We have 1 or 2 guys doing all this work. There are some pretty badass ROMs for the more popular phones out there. If we had more people developing and cooking, we'd no doubt have something better than what we have even now.
Screw those giant phones.
But a little more ROMS would be cool, we just need more people with the Aria.
It's not a bad phone...hah.
What would you like to see in a new ROM?
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What would you like to see in a new ROM?
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Not too sure, as I have only had the Aria and used the two ROMS.
it's not a bad thing that we may only have 3 roms, but they are actually good quality roms, not just thrown together, and they are constantly being updated, but it would be kool if they had more help with them. Although i wish they had some people creating or porting themes, if i knew how i would, if anybody wanna help me learn, i wouldn't mind contributing by making themes for the aria, cause i kno i'm not the only one wishing they could have a theme to try out
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it's not a bad thing that we may only have 3 roms, but they are actually good quality roms, not just thrown together, and they are constantly being updated, but it would be kool if they had more help with them. Although i wish they had some people creating or porting themes, if i knew how i would, if anybody wanna help me learn, i wouldn't mind contributing by making themes for the aria, cause i kno i'm not the only one wishing they could have a theme to try out
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+1 on themes
I recently rooted and installed CM6.1.0RC2, and only thing I'd say it's missing is Flash Lite compared to Sense. Wish there was a way to get Flash Lite on CM, sadly not possible. Still loving CM though. Might test Sense again when there's an official Froyo update from AT&T and attn1 has taken out all the bloatware.
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I recently rooted and installed CM6.1.0RC2, and only thing I'd say it's missing is Flash Lite compared to Sense. Wish there was a way to get Flash Lite on CM, sadly not possible. Still loving CM though. Might test Sense again when there's an official Froyo update from AT&T and attn1 has taken out all the bloatware.
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Hopefully it's before Christmas.
AT&T is just soooo slow
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I recently rooted and installed CM6.1.0RC2, and only thing I'd say it's missing is Flash Lite compared to Sense. Wish there was a way to get Flash Lite on CM, sadly not possible. Still loving CM though. Might test Sense again when there's an official Froyo update from AT&T and attn1 has taken out all the bloatware.
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Wait... why wait for the official ATT rom? It's going to be near identically the same as the Gratia ROM with 2.2 in it. You can go download it and flash it now.
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Wait... why wait for the official ATT rom? It's going to be near identically the same as the Gratia ROM with 2.2 in it. You can go download it and flash it now.
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Agreed. Waiting for the AT&T ROM to be released and then having someone remove the bloatware is pointless. What you will end up with is available now as Liberated FR07...
Sorry didn't mean the rom, meant the source kernel for attn1 to add and hopefully figure out why track wake isn't on plus all the other little things that's on his list that aren't in the current build.
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Sorry didn't mean the rom, meant the source kernel for attn1 to add and hopefully figure out why track wake isn't on plus all the other little things that's on his list that aren't in the current build.
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Um trackball wake works. So does wifi tethering and overclocking. We also have flash working.
Check this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9615379&postcount=128
Check the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&page=13
From what I understand it's using the froyo kernel from the legend now.
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That's right folks- get your supercharged Froyo sense goodness now with the newer kernel source released by HTC for the HTC legend. Everything works as far as I know, except for the built in wifi hotspot app for which we have replaced with the working Wireless Tether app thanks to the work of shakerhero. Final thanks go to attn1 and jznomoney for their hard work on the CM kernel, ladios for bundling up the kernel, trackpad wake fix, and wireless tether in a single, proper package.
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Just gotta flash it yourself. Been running it for a couple of days. Prior to that was using the CM6.1 kernel for OC and trackball wake.
kura808 looks like i've been missing some good reading
thanks for the links too.
Two things...
Why are the new gingerbread ROMs (OMGB and Evervolv) themed and modified to hell and back? Why can't someone just import things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM, and then work from there? I don't want anything altered from the basic vanilla ROM but here we are, dealing with all these customizations and different themes already applied and apps thrown onto there (other than the basics like SU). I don't want any music app on my phone so WHY FORCE ME TO HAVE ONE? I don't want to only have to choose between 2 ROMs to enjoy gingerbread this early. This ultimately leads me having to alter things to GET IT BACK TO A VANILLA ROM.
Also, why must all themes have to be rainbow-eccentric and have no "flowing" colors? Most of the themes are just an eye-sore and make me think the "designer" is colorblind and leaves me to theming everything myself. No, the app doesn't look good if it has a STRONG RED next to a DEEP BLACK, with STRONG BLUE somewhere mixed in.
so, if you dont like whats being offered by the devs, step up and make your own ROM's. if you read through the threads, most users do like what is being offered and that is why they are so popular. personally i cant stand the vanilla android experiance and am currently rocking Nils Biz-sence rom...
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so, if you dont like whats being offered by the devs, step up and make your own ROM's.
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This.
Why haven't you "imported things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM" if it's so easy? These devs are theming their ROMs to their (and other users') liking, and they are nice enough to post them here. Appreciate that for what it is.
I'd like a vanilla rom that I could customize myself, but I would prefer to have someone else do the work so I'll take what they give me.
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This.
Why haven't you "imported things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM" if it's so easy? These devs are theming their ROMs to their (and other users') liking, and they are nice enough to post them here. Appreciate that for what it is.
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I'm not saying it's easy, I can't do what the CM team has done, (because that's what they're doing; taking the CM fixes, applying them, and theming it to their liking) but why are the 2 only ROM dev's right now working on adding **** to a version of android that ISN'T already built for the Incredible? Why can't they make a vanilla ROM, AND THEN customize it to their liking?
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I'd like a vanilla rom that I could customize myself, but I would prefer to have someone else do the work so I'll take what they give me.
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So you'd rather have what someone else likes and thinks is "right" instead of what YOU want on YOUR phone? I'm not saying it's a bad thing but why wouldn't you want your own customizations instead of someone elses?
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Two things...
Why are the new gingerbread ROMs (OMGB and Evervolv) themed and modified to hell and back? Why can't someone just import things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM, and then work from there? I don't want anything altered from the basic vanilla ROM but here we are, dealing with all these customizations and different themes already applied and apps thrown onto there (other than the basics like SU). I don't want any music app on my phone so WHY FORCE ME TO HAVE ONE? I don't want to only have to choose between 2 ROMs to enjoy gingerbread this early. This ultimately leads me having to alter things to GET IT BACK TO A VANILLA ROM.
Also, why must all themes have to be rainbow-eccentric and have no "flowing" colors? Most of the themes are just an eye-sore and make me think the "designer" is colorblind and leaves me to theming everything myself. No, the app doesn't look good if it has a STRONG RED next to a DEEP BLACK, with STRONG BLUE somewhere mixed in.
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Pretty sure OMGB is stock vanilla. With rare exceptions, one being messaging being on the launcher instead of the browser.
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ilinfinityil said:
Why are the new gingerbread ROMs (OMGB and Evervolv) themed and modified to hell and back? Why can't someone just import things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM, and then work from there?
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what the hell are you talking about? have you even started up the gingerbread emu or searched screenshots of GB?
holy **** man, it is vanilla. that's how google released 2.3, with the black status and lime green/orange icons. use whatever launcher you want.
these are free ROMS from unpaid developers, who are porting the ROMs and allowing you to run them WAY BEFORE it would be available to you OTA.
dude srsly
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Pretty sure OMGB is stock vanilla. With rare exceptions, one being messaging being on the launcher instead of the browser.
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The last build I tried, it said "WeDoDroid" instead of "Verizon Wireless" or even "T-CDMA". Also, the change you just mentioned, different kernals used, different music app, probably other things I can't remember.
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what the hell are you talking about? have you even started up the gingerbread emu or searched screenshots of GB?
holy **** man, it is vanilla. that's how google released 2.3, with the black status and lime green/orange icons. use whatever launcher you want.
these are free ROMS from unpaid developers, who are porting the ROMs and allowing you to run them WAY BEFORE it would be available to you OTA.
dude srsly
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Refer to my last post quoting someone else and the list of modifications, it's obvious you didn't read my entire post and just quoted a single line.
I should also clarify that I AM thankful for all the free **** us users get from this community, no doubt about that, but I'm just merely confused about how people go about things.
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Refer to my last post quoting someone else and the list of modifications, it's obvious you didn't read my entire post and just quoted a single line.
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i read your post. you are complaining about colors and designs.
its obvious you don't know what GB is supposed to look like.
Go install eclipse and start up the GB SDK in an emu and you'll see how great the "stock vanilla GB" really is. not.
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Two things...
Why are the new gingerbread ROMs (OMGB and Evervolv) themed and modified to hell and back? Why can't someone just import things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM, and then work from there? I don't want anything altered from the basic vanilla ROM but here we are, dealing with all these customizations and different themes already applied and apps thrown onto there (other than the basics like SU). I don't want any music app on my phone so WHY FORCE ME TO HAVE ONE? I don't want to only have to choose between 2 ROMs to enjoy gingerbread this early. This ultimately leads me having to alter things to GET IT BACK TO A VANILLA ROM.
Also, why must all themes have to be rainbow-eccentric and have no "flowing" colors? Most of the themes are just an eye-sore and make me think the "designer" is colorblind and leaves me to theming everything myself. No, the app doesn't look good if it has a STRONG RED next to a DEEP BLACK, with STRONG BLUE somewhere mixed in.
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even though you sound a little rude and demanding for things that are free....i totally agree with you.
but at the same time i in the beginning steps of my brand new laptop and im going to start compiling roms on my own.
but i defiantly know how you feel being stuck between 2 roms
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Go install eclipse and start up the GB SDK in an emu and you'll see how great the "stock vanilla GB" really is. not.
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Why go through the work of doing this when you can just whine about it instead?
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Why go through the work of doing this when you can just whine about it instead?
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+1................
DS36 said:
even though you sound a little rude and demanding for things that are free....i totally agree with you.
but at the same time i in the beginning steps of my brand new laptop and im going to start compiling roms on my own.
but i defiantly know how you feel being stuck between 2 roms
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ROM developing
step 1 - get a computer
step 2 - learn to spell "definitely"
step 3 - learn to program in java
step 4 - learn to use linux
step 5 - learn extensible markups and the android os
step 6 - cook a rom
step 7 - post it on xda and ask for donations for step 8
step 8 - buy a 1337 t-shirt and a case of red bull
almost there
infotechsailor said:
i read your post. you are complaining about colors and designs.
its obvious you don't know what GB is supposed to look like.
Go install eclipse and start up the GB SDK in an emu and you'll see how great the "stock vanilla GB" really is. not.
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I'm talking about graphical modifications, such as the different font (on Evervolv) and "WeDoDroid" on OMGB. If you would've kept reading the thread I mentioned a list of things to someone else a couple posts from my first one, but I don't expect people to do that
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Why go through the work of doing this when you can just whine about it instead?
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I knew I shouldn't have posted here, it's like dealing with idiots. Most of you are missing my original point.
But to address you, I've put hours into making my own ROM so it's to my own liking, and no I'm not going to upload it to the forums or show you proof because I simply do not feel the need to prove something to anonymous forum users for satisfaction.
Then just use your own ROM dude....
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Then just use your own ROM dude....
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I am! I just wish that instead of giving us only 2 choices for gingerbread ROM, they'd start off with a basic vanilla one and then work from that, instead of customizing what they want before the ROM is even fully functioning.