I am weighing buying either the Focus or HTC surround, but it is contigent on which bluetooth stack comes loaded on either. I have a piece of software that interfaces with a piece of hardware and only works with the Microsoft Bluetooth stack. I have an Ipaq 111 with the broadcomm stack and it just does not work.
So do you all know?
We probably wont know until someone posts a tear down of the device.
I could be wrong, but all the WP7 devices should share the same BT software from Microsoft.
That was the whole thing by MS in trying to control the "user experience"
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Does anyone know which Bluetooth Stack is used on the X7500? Microsoft, Widcomm, BlueSoleil or Toshiba?
Thank you
Its the standard MS stack isnt it?
Seems the same as my old Universal stack, and that was the MS one.
Its easy to tell.... Does it suck? Then yes, its the MS one.
Hey all,
I'm trying to pair a PPC with SonyEricsson's bluetooth watch MBW-150 to use moneytoo's brilliant SmartWatchM. This worked fine with my old PPC running the Microsoft bluetooth stack. My new PPC (LG KS20) uses the Widcomm/Broadcom stack, believed to be cleverer than the MS stack.
Here's the problem:
The PPC will not pair. The watch does not send out information according to the BT Service Discovery Protocol (SDP), because it was never meant to be paired with anything else than SE phones. The Microsoft stack didn't care and paired nonetheless. The Widcomm/Broadcom stack, however, will pair with BT devices only if it finds a supported profile. The watch uses the Serial Port Profile (SPP), but it doesn't say so, not sending any SDP information to the PPC. The PPC would support SPP of course, but doesn't pair as it has no way of knowing that the watch supports this profile.
In the end, when I try to pair, the PPC will see the watch but doesn't know what to do with it, and will not pair.
Is there any way of pairing (using a Widcomm/Broadcom stack) without SDP information? Can I enforce pairing with the watch? (I can easily insert serial port settings in the reg manually.)
Or can I somehow change my BT stack? I've read that the only way to do that would mean changing the ROM ... :-(
Any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Many thanks,
N.
I'm using 32feet.NET library that supports only MS BT Stack. Fortunately I have just found this lib http://franson.com/bluetools/ that seems to support Widcomm Stack. I will try it soon.
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What BT stack is on it? Is it Broadcom? Widcomm on Motorola Q9 is ok and lets you to pair device without any service but Broadcom on a one HP iPAQ I have tested doesnt.
EDIT2:
Not a good news. Franson Bluetools doesnt work on smartphones. I dont know much about this stuff but from what I have read it seems like pairing/bonding request is possible only in MS BT stack (via some non official function) and it's disabled in other BT stacks because of security issues.
Thanks for chiming in, moneytoo!
moneytoo said:
What BT stack is on it? Is it Broadcom? Widcomm on Motorola Q9 is ok and lets you to pair device without any service but Broadcom on a one HP iPAQ I have tested doesnt.
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This may be a noob question but: How do I tell whether it's Broadcom or Widcomm? Is there still a difference since Broadcom bought Widcomm?
Anyway, BT manager will not pair ("no supported protocol found").
moneytoo said:
it seems like pairing/bonding request is possible only in MS BT stack (via some non official function) and it's disabled in other BT stacks because of security issues.
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I'm afraid that's true. I haven't found anything so far that would point me to a workaround, backdoor or anything - and as my KS20 is a company phone I can hardly change the ROM
Let's hope someone comes up with an idea!
Hi there,
is it possible to install an alternative BT stack on the TP2? I can't pair with a BT mouse and keyboard and want to try if replacing BT stack might solve this?
I guess grabbing another stack from another model might brick my phone or isn't that so risky
Tnx.. Marco
I replaced the bt stack on my Hermes once.
It did work but it kinda wrecked my wm 6.1 install, causing horrible performance.
I guess (esp at this moment) your best bet is to get the current bt stack to work with your devices.
I personally love the new BT stack, the default microsoft stack doesn't seem to support anything and is incredibly slow.
Stoway BT drivers can be downloaded here it probably doesnt have direct support for the Rhodium, but if you check which other devices used a Widcomm Stack, then it should work.
Cheers,
Beasty
Hello,
Does somebody know if there is any HTC device that use the Widcomm BT stack instead of standard Microsoft stack?
Thanks,
Emil.
emilbergg said:
Hello,
Does somebody know if there is any HTC device that use the Widcomm BT stack instead of standard Microsoft stack?
Thanks,
Emil.
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Unfortunately the Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 does. Why in the world would you want it? Nothing seems to work with it.. Several of my programs that use bluetooth don't detect anything.
I'm writing a BT application and I want to be sure that it works also on devices with the Widcomm stack.
Maybe there is a wrapper for the Widcomm stack that let all BT applications be compatible with it?
Why the OEMs use this stack instead of Microsoft's?
Chip
emilbergg said:
I'm writing a BT application and I want to be sure that it works also on devices with the Widcomm stack.
Maybe there is a wrapper for the Widcomm stack that let all BT applications be compatible with it?
Why the OEMs use this stack instead of Microsoft's?
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Hi emilbergg
It's to do with the chip that they use for the device. The Broadcomm chip requires the Widcomm software. Essentially, it's a driver issue. Different chip, different driver. I'm guessing the choice of chip is made on a mixture of functionality and cost.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
I am weighing buying either the Samsung Focus or HTC surround, but it is contigent on which bluetooth stack comes loaded on either. I have a piece of software that interfaces with a piece of hardware and only works with the Microsoft Bluetooth stack. I have an Ipaq 111 with the broadcomm stack and it just does not work.
Thanks for the help.
It won't run any old WM software. So, does it really matter?
suppose not
Wasn't aware... Thanks for the heads-up. The software was running on 6 classic.
Windows Phone will only run apps published through WP7 App market. No backward compatibility at all.