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[Q] Samsung Focus on other carriers unbranded?.

Been looking around and I can't find any information if the Focus will be available unbranded. I live in Australia on the Telstra network who uses the same band as AT&T (850 MHz) so compatibility is not an issue.

According to Paul Thurrott in his Windows Weekly podcast this is the one to have. Amazing screen, amazingly thin and light and has expandable storage.
Now, where can us folk in the UK get hold of this handset from unlocked?

Scott Whitmore,
I would trade you a Focus for a Omnia 7. I live in the US but don't like how the focus look and would like to get the Omnia 7 instead.

dominicanx said:
Scott Whitmore,
I would trade you a Focus for a Omnia 7. I live in the US but don't like how the focus look and would like to get the Omnia 7 instead.
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Sorry, the Omnia is not available on my network. I'm thinking of just getting a Mozart and then selling it when the HD7 comes out. I've looked around and I can't find the Focus unbranded. I don't want a branded model.

Scott Whitmore said:
Sorry, the Omnia is not available on my network. I'm thinking of just getting a Mozart and then selling it when the HD7 comes out. I've looked around and I can't find the Focus unbranded. I don't want a branded model.
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Hey,
I found a site that is selling the phone unlocked in the US. I'm looking to get ether a Mozart or a Omnia 7.
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i917-focus-att-unlocked-380.html

dominicanx said:
Hey,
I found a site that is selling the phone unlocked in the US. I'm looking to get ether a Mozart or a Omnia 7.
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i917-focus-att-unlocked-380.html
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I wouldn't trust this site, I've found numerous people complaining of scams that have occurred.
Anyone else know if this phone will be available unlocked for purchase?

I'm wondering if you can just buy it at full price and ask for unlock code
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dominicanx said:
Hey,
I found a site that is selling the phone unlocked in the US. I'm looking to get ether a Mozart or a Omnia 7.
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i917-focus-att-unlocked-380.html
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stay away from Negri electronics. They are noting but a scam!

samven582 said:
stay away from Negri electronics. They are noting but a scam!
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plenty of users on xda-developers have bought phones off negri electronics and have been very happy with the service.

I think the issue with these sellers is that there is no after sales service. In most cases you don't need one. Samsung has good QA and I have been satisfied with most of their products. But if you are unfortunate and need to exchange or return the phone, you might be out of luck.

I've ordered a number of things from Negri and never had any issues. They have always shipped fast AND they actually care about their customers. I'm curious where you saw they were a scam from?
The two things I really like about Negri is they aren't afraid to tell you straight, there is no BS with them. Also they just passed along savings on shipping to everyone because they were able to negotiate a better deal with this shipping company. How many companies can you say will do that for their customer.

I would order from them
I haven't ordered anything from Negri Electronics but, I have heard a lot of good things about them. You are definitely ordering from real people, that much I know. From what I've seen they answer loads of questions quickly on Twitter. I am getting a new phone soon and I will definitely be ordering from them.

You can easily buy an unlocked Focus from ebay (as I did) or even Amazon. Most likely it will be the AT&T version since it's the most widespread. I hated the ATT ROM and so downloaded the Rogers Canada version of the ROM from this website - which is much cleaner - and flashed my Focus.
Voila. My phone was still unlocked, no horrible ATT stuff making my Focus slow, no tacky orange ATT intro. Also, I was able to update through Zune to 8107, the latest available build (ATT blocks updates after 7720).
If you want a focus and are worried about branded phones, this might be a useful process for you like it was for me.

Beta streak woes

Well I have been reading on the blogs that dell will be selling unlocked streaks with froyo.....but I just bought a beta streak on eBay..(jumped the gun on it too soon i guess)..so I am wondering what are some limitations with using a beta streak....is it worthless now....should I sell it? I do not really need to have at&t cause i just plan to use it as a data and multimedia device.....any help or tips will be helpful.
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As far as I know the only downside (as long as there's nothing wrong with the one you buy) is that the 3g/mobile side has been disabled by AT&T. I believe that you can use it on some other networks if it's been unlocked and of course wifi works.
Since beta Streaks are not meant to be sold on, a possible problem may come later for you if Dell decide to deactivate them.

I am in the same situation like you. Just purchased one which has lable called Engineering Sample. It works with AT&T sim card, but has no idea about 3G because
I never subscribe data plan.
It has Android 1.6.

No warranty on anything, don't even call Dell. spare parts are on you, as well as fixing it. You fugg it, you fix it or sell it to the community If you're on T-mo then you won't have 3G unless you get a unicorn like Streak AWS version, and what was previously mentioned, not working on AT&T, besides that you get Steve's Froyo on it and you have a marvelous piece of equipment.

my buddies and I all have the Streak here before it got release here in Canada....not a single problem with it.

Beta Streak here, been using for 4 or 5 months now, no problems whatsoever except for the silver Dell logo on back coming unglued and coming off.
Running Steve's 1.4.6 now, the O2 2.1 before that. Great piece of kit. *knocks on wood* Been using on TMO US the whole time. I love it!

Wow glad to hear that I got some good feedback can't wait till mine comes in but I am kind of wondering will my rebel sim do anything with this dell streak I'm guessing since my beta streak is unlocked I kind of have no use for the rebel sim now
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Need some info on Aria

So finally my gf is going to get her first smartphone!!! I think I am moreexcited about it than she is.... big steps in life..
anyways I had suggested the aria for her...well the only way to get it now is through att online.. not in any stores as they are going to discontinue it...
my question is I have been reading so far that it cannot be rooted and hacked once its been updated... is that like a forever thing? or can it be downgraded then flashed?
also does anyone know if it comes from att online already updated and set up?
I dont want her to get this phone if it is completely locked down...
the only other phones I suggested are the atrix and inspire.. however she likes the phones but she thinks they are just too big..
right now it looks like the atrix is going to be the way to go.... especially if this phone comes updated and unrootable.....
please any thought would help out.. especially if anyone knows if att updates the phone before they mail it to you.
thanks,
Nsomnia

Nsomnia911 said:
So finally my gf is going to get her first smartphone!!! I think I am moreexcited about it than she is.... big steps in life..
anyways I had suggested the aria for her...well the only way to get it now is through att online.. not in any stores as they are going to discontinue it...
my question is I have been reading so far that it cannot be rooted and hacked once its been updated... is that like a forever thing? or can it be downgraded then flashed?
also does anyone know if it comes from att online already updated and set up?
I dont want her to get this phone if it is completely locked down...
the only other phones I suggested are the atrix and inspire.. however she likes the phones but she thinks they are just too big..
right now it looks like the atrix is going to be the way to go.... especially if this phone comes updated and unrootable.....
please any thought would help out.. especially if anyone knows if att updates the phone before they mail it to you.
thanks,
Nsomnia
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If it comes from AT&T with the Froyo 2.2 update applied, then it will be un-rootable, even if you downgrade back to 2.1.
If they are discontinuing the Aria, then I would say the chances are that the current stock on hand does not have the Froyo 2.2 update on it are very good and it's worth taking a chance on.

A couple things:
Are you starting new service with AT&T, or eligible for an upgrade and thus getting the phone at a discounted/free price OR
Are you paying full no-commitment pricing as you are already AT&T customer?
Either way, you might want to look at http://wireless.amazon.com/HTC-Aria-Android-Phone-AT/dp/B003RCJA6S/ref=sh_br_ph_12?ie=UTF8&transaction=INDIVIDUAL_NEW. Their price is good if you are buying the phone outright, it's where I purchased mine. You can also start new service or do upgrades via them as well I think. Their return policy is also sweet, you get up to 30 days to return the phone in case your girlfriend doesn't like it.
Mine came with Android 2.1 OS and I had it rooted and a custom ROM loaded on within an hour of opening the box!

tpbklake said:
If it comes from AT&T with the Froyo 2.2 update applied, then it will be un-rootable, even if you downgrade back to 2.1.
If they are discontinuing the Aria, then I would say the chances are that the current stock on hand does not have the Froyo 2.2 update on it are very good and it's worth taking a chance on.
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Mine was purchased through the online store and it had 2.1 on it. So the chances are quite good you'll be able to root.

woodbane said:
A couple things:
Are you starting new service with AT&T, or eligible for an upgrade and thus getting the phone at a discounted/free price OR
Are you paying full no-commitment pricing as you are already AT&T customer?
Either way, you might want to look at http://wireless.amazon.com/HTC-Aria-Android-Phone-AT/dp/B003RCJA6S/ref=sh_br_ph_12?ie=UTF8&transaction=INDIVIDUAL_NEW. Their price is good if you are buying the phone outright, it's where I purchased mine. You can also start new service or do upgrades via them as well I think. Their return policy is also sweet, you get up to 30 days to return the phone in case your girlfriend doesn't like it.
Mine came with Android 2.1 OS and I had it rooted and a custom ROM loaded on within an hour of opening the box!
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This is what I did and the phone came with 2.1. that was 6 weeks ago. Rooted and rommed...

So wait - if the phone has been updated to 2.2, it can NEVER be rooted and modded, like EVER?
That may change my eBay buying habits for this phone...

gfinockio said:
So wait - if the phone has been updated to 2.2, it can NEVER be rooted and modded, like EVER?
That may change my eBay buying habits for this phone...
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Its possible it may never happen. It all depends on whether someone figures out how to crack the newer hboot.

CallMeAria said:
Its possible it may never happen. It all depends on whether someone figures out how to crack the newer hboot.
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Oooh. That's scary.

You might try HERE. They are listed as having the 2.1 OS.

I need it unlocked to use up here in Canada - hence my worry about it coming with 2.2 on it. I'm just going to try to communicate with the eBay sellers and hope they know what they are talking about.

Unlocking a phone for use on other carriers is completely separate from rooting and installing custom ROMs. You can unlock a phone that has AT&T official 2.2 update on it.

Yeah, but wouldn't I be stuck with a bunch of AT&T apps I could never use in Canada?

woodbane said:
Either way, you might want to look at http://wireless.amazon.com/HTC-Aria-Android-Phone-AT/dp/B003RCJA6S/ref=sh_br_ph_12?ie=UTF8&transaction=INDIVIDUAL_NEW. Their price is good if you are buying the phone outright, it's where I purchased mine. You can also start new service or do upgrades via them as well I think. Their return policy is also sweet, you get up to 30 days to return the phone in case your girlfriend doesn't like it.
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Thank you so much for this link! I've been looking at the Aria as my first Android phone, but AT&T only offers a refurbished one as an upgrade. I could get the refurb Aria for $0 or an Inspire for $99 through AT&T. Like the OP's girlfriend, I don't like the size of the Inspire. Also looked at the Captivate, but it seems big too.
At Amazon, I got a new Aria for $50. They added the extra data plan at checkout. Should get it Tuesday.

[Q] Buying an HD2 off ebay... What to look for?

Hey guys!
I'm excited to say that I'm about to buy an HD2!! I'm finally getting up to speed!! (Upgrading from my Topazi)
I'm planning on buying this off of ebay, but I'm not sure what to look for when selecting it. I'm going to buy new, even though it costs more... I've got AT&T and don't know if i can get a t-mobile one or if i have to get one that ebay says will work with AT&T or if i'm just putting too much thought into this...
Any tips you guys could offer on choosing one off of ebay? Thanks in advance!!

for att get the austrailian (telstra) version, not the tmobile one - this will allow you to get 3g. or if you get the tmobile one, you will NOT get 3g, just edge. (this is a hardware issue.)
other than that, i guess everything you look for is well, what you should look for, ya know?

Make sure it has five buttons on the front, not four as at least some of the Chinese clones have.
Buy only from someone with very high feedback, and a significant number of them.
Avoid buying something that has a stock photo in place of actual photos of what you are paying for.
By the same token, avoid items whose photos are blurry or hard to see. Good sellers have nothing to hide and won't try.
I recently bought my second HD2, this one a brand new unit, and it was a good deal all the way around. But I'm very careful. You should be too.
Ask questions before you bid. In my years of buying from eBay sellers I've come to use this as a way of gauging good service. If you can't get an answer to a simple question, you're unlikely to get one if you experience a problem with the transaction. Good service starts before the sale imho.
Good luck!

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for att get the austrailian (telstra) version, not the tmobile one - this will allow you to get 3g. or if you get the tmobile one, you will NOT get 3g, just edge. (this is a hardware issue.)
other than that, i guess everything you look for is well, what you should look for, ya know?
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Thanks for that, it would suck to not have 3G up here... I can't find anything that specifically states "Telstra" or australian on ebay for new HD2's... I'm searching by compatible carriers and AT&T comes up- would that one work? Here's an example.
Thanks again in advance!
BTW- Do you live on/near MN 78? I'm near MN 33... I like the pic

Sorry mate for the late response. I don't know what the difference is for the telstra in looks. But I would assume it is NOT the one you mentioned unless it specifically states so. My guess is the one you linked is the European version. I woulf pm kameirus as he did what toy want to do.
And am a Minnesotan but in mpls. The highway sign just worked with my handle.
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AT&T Nexus 6 InStore Nationwide recall

Hello - Just spoke to one of the local ATT stores...he said the nationwide Nexus 6 shipment has a software bug and they were all sent back. He did not know when the new shipment will be sent out. SUCKS

The stock firmware is the same between AT&T stock and the rest of the stock. Maybe AT&T is recalling the phones because they forgot to lock down the bootloaders also? :laugh:

PaisanNYC said:
The stock firmware is the same between AT&T stock and the rest of the stock. Maybe AT&T is recalling the phones because they forgot to lock down the bootloaders also? :laugh:
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haha good one.

I'd love to know what this "bug" is. I'm sure we can fix it ourselves rather than go through the hassle of sending it in.
Also, does it affect only in-store purchases, pre-orders, or all AT&T Nexus 6 units?

I was thinking the same too. I visited some 3 at&t stores this morning and they all had the same story. The guy at the last store was very cool and honestly told me the recall is most likely because at&t forgot to lock down some things.
I suspect the bootloader.
He told me if i am looking to pay the full price, i shouldnt get it from at&t. He does make sense.

Lol recalled for bug is bs.

i saw some vids yesterday of people who got their phone from at&t, and the accessibility option for blind people was set on first boot, making him unable to get out of the locksceen or power off the phone easily.
could be it

If its hardware related fine..but software can easily be fixed since the factory images are out. No reason to recall with factory images available. I guess it's cause they don't want ppl claiming they still defective devices.

djkinetic said:
If its hardware related fine..but software can easily be fixed since the factory images are out. No reason to recall with factory images available. I guess it's cause they don't want ppl claiming they still defective devices.
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Most of the public has no idea what a factory image is.

gtalum said:
Most of the public has no idea what a factory image is.
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Most of the public isn't buying nexus device.

djkinetic said:
Most of the public isn't buying nexus device.
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They might start. Big beautiful phone available at the retail store like all the others. Well eventually.

djkinetic said:
Most of the public isn't buying nexus device.
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I dunno. At a carrier store I bet most buyers are general public who has no idea what a factory image is.

My local at&t is still selling them today. Maybe they didn't get the memo. Tempted to go get one before they decide to lock the bootloader
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I got mine in yesterday. Since I had to get the shipped sim changed over to my number, instead of the wife's, I booted up, without a sim and loved not seeing any ATT bloat on the phone. Once I got the sim activated, and confirmed it was working, I immediately:
- OEM Unlock check
- unlocked with kit
- rooted with kit
- removed the emblem on back
- inserted activated sim
No bloatware, no issues whatsoever. I think I'll keep mine, and not return it to ATT.

dipstik said:
i saw some vids yesterday of people who got their phone from at&t, and the accessibility option for blind people was set on first boot, making him unable to get out of the locksceen or power off the phone easily.
could be it
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The report at http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/2...p-nexus-6-inventory-back-due-to-software-bug/ describes the issue similarly; i.e., the display not turning on at first boot.
What I'm wondering is how that could happen if the ROM is the same as other Nexi, and the only AT&T customizations are supposedly the boot animations/ringtones on a special oem partition, and something plugged into the carrier init sequence (when you put in your SIM and select your carrier) that's downloading a couple apps from the play store.
I also wonder what the capabilities of the carrier init plugin are -- can it update radios or other parts of the ROM? Enable/disable things like VoLTE support?

Was reading on gplus some att users turned on their n6 and there was kitkat. Quality control issues.

They realized the death star logo can can be scratched off with a credit card... Had to take them back to reprint with permanent ink.

Is this something I should be concerned with? I got one of the first shipments but my phone is running fine so whats up? Why can't they just tell us?

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They realized the death star logo can can be scratched off with a credit card... Had to take them back to reprint with permanent ink.
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Actually it was because they had VZW logo's instead of AT&T. :laugh:

First they decide to throw their retarded branding on their crop oft he Nexus 6 devices, then they send the units back because they either 1) failed to lock it down or 2) screwed up something usability related when they decided to throw their bloatware bull**** on the phones.
Either way, s#*t like this makes me happy I'm not an ATT customer anymore. F*@k that company.