High battery use when using the stock Email app with Exchange? - Galaxy S I9000 General

Hi guys,
I've noticed when using the standard email app with Froyo versions, battery use is very high. I've used spare parts and it shows pretty partial wake usage for the email app.
I've removed my account from it, and installed the TouchDown email app, and now it is fine, but I prefered the stock app.
Anyone have any info on this?
Cheers,
Mal

Yes, this is a generic Froyo bug.
Set the retreive interval to "Push" or "Never" and cpu usage is back to normal

Detailed thread about Exchange and Email app here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819766
Also documented similar problem with Email app and IMAP on folders containing >60 messages.

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Email Delay

I'm having troubles with pop email accounts, I'm not being notified for new emails, they do not show up in my inbox until i manually open the email client - I have my client to auto check every 5 minutes, yet if I don't check for half a day and then login I have emails from all times of the day being loaded into my inbox.
my friend is having the issue, was wondering if anyone else was?
It's with hotmail, yahoo and ever business emails servers.
suggestions?
Thanks in advanced
nobody noticed that there email isn't polling when it should be?
If you are using an app-killer, make sure your email app isnt killed with it, since that would eliminate the option to auto-fetch emails.
Inebriatef said:
If you are using an app-killer, make sure your email app isnt killed with it, since that would eliminate the option to auto-fetch emails.
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Pls check these items.
Have you add to auto kill list? then remove it. along with email app.
com.andorid.provider.download
google.android.apps.uploader
data sync should be on.
try it.
Im sure yore battery life wont last 2 days. and why did you setup pop3? Go for Imap it saves resources and disk space.
Let your computer do POP3 work.
no appkiller of any kind installed
I just noticed now I havn't received emails to my phone in the last 3 days, I had to manualy open the app to fetch it, update is set to 30 min
I use moxier and it updates and polls fine,
email app doesn't.
x10a rooted on o24 software
every other functions works great
robbyf66 said:
no appkiller of any kind installed
I just noticed now I havn't received emails to my phone in the last 3 days, I had to manualy open the app to fetch it, update is set to 30 min
I use moxier and it updates and polls fine,
email app doesn't.
x10a rooted on o24 software
every other functions works great
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On the first day I got the phone, before doing anything (root) to it, I also noticed that it didn't poll. Had it set for 5 minutes, background data on and it did nothing. Never polled once all day.
So rather than waste my time with something (else) from SE that didn't work I just installed K-9 Mail and never looked backed since
i have all my accounts forwarded to my gmail which i believe is push on android phones (someone correct me if im wrong), although this probably doesnt save battery life, i prefer having my email pushed
zhoustanley said:
i have all my accounts forwarded to my gmail which i believe is push on android phones (someone correct me if im wrong), although this probably doesnt save battery life, i prefer having my email pushed
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agree...just let gmail take care of it
I prefer to reply or send emails from my actual email account, I did use k9 for a while and it was working and i do like all the additional advanced features it offers. All I need is basic send/receive from a basic client and the android email app is suppose to work like that.
thanks so far guys
rvictorg said:
agree...just let gmail take care of it
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The regular email client is a bit lacking. Your issue isn't common though. Must be just missing something in the setting somewhere...if not you could always do the total reset on the phone i guess if you really had too.
I recently just caved in and made the full switch to Gmail for all of my accounts. Much easier to manage. It IS full push email I believe, plus imap makes things so much easier it's not even comparible.
It's too bad the gmail app on the phone won't let you send from multiple addys, but the web interface is good for sending from a diff addy in a pinch.
robbyf66 said:
I'm having troubles with pop email accounts, I'm not being notified for new emails, they do not show up in my inbox until i manually open the email client - I have my client to auto check every 5 minutes, yet if I don't check for half a day and then login I have emails from all times of the day being loaded into my inbox.
my friend is having the issue, was wondering if anyone else was?
It's with hotmail, yahoo and ever business emails servers.
suggestions?
Thanks in advanced
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Just checked it today, App killer was set for auto kill after a hour. Disabled, now push email works.....

G2 email application causes inordinate battery drain

I can conclusively state that the "Email" application on our G2 is responsible for consuming an inordinate amount of battery, because it does not properly sleep. When I had my phone configured to use Exchange/Activesync via the built-in sync and Email application, it would consistently be at the top of the "partial wake" list. Generally, the partial wake breakdown is a good starting point to determine which apps may be misbehaving. The following bug appears to be what we are seeing here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9307
To validate the battery drain, I completely deleted the account associated with Exchange and installed Touchdown (3rd party Exchange sync app). The difference is substantial. I was previously at 50% battery after just a few hours, where I can now make it easily through the entire day without charging.
Short story: If you're using the built in Email app (not Gmail, that is fine), try removing the account associated with it for a day and observe the change in battery life.
rmk40 said:
I can conclusively state that the "Email" application on our G2 is responsible for consuming an inordinate amount of battery, because it does not properly sleep. When I had my phone configured to use Exchange/Activesync via the built-in sync and Email application, it would consistently be at the top of the "partial wake" list. Generally, the partial wake breakdown is a good starting point to determine which apps may be misbehaving. The following bug appears to be what we are seeing here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9307
To validate the battery drain, I completely deleted the account associated with Exchange and installed Touchdown (3rd party Exchange sync app). The difference is substantial. I was previously at 50% battery after just a few hours, where I can now make it easily through the entire day without charging.
Short story: If you're using the built in Email app (not Gmail, that is fine), try removing the account associated with it for a day and observe the change in battery life.
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I've also noticed this, if you search this forum for activesync you'll find where I diagnosed it along with the facebook app as being two things that drain your battery.
My fix was to instead just forward my email to a gmail and use gmail's push functionality. Works great, and gmail lets you change your "send from" address so it's completely transparent to anyone you send mail to.
Just thought I'd let you know you're not the only one.
The "email" (NOTE: NOT GMAIL) app does seem to drain battery, at least when used with Exchange ActiveSync.
Did u guys change the check interval time? Iirc when u make an account it defaults to checking every 15 minutes. Sure way to kill the battery. Just a thought
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The Great NY said:
Did u guys change the check interval time? Iirc when u make an account it defaults to checking every 15 minutes. Sure way to kill the battery. Just a thought
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Unfortunately the interval makes no difference. The app basically does not sleep, even if I set it to never poll. In fact, I set it to not poll at all for an entire day and rebooted before writing this post.
There must be something else at play on your setup. I have zero problems with partial wake using the email app with my company's exchange server.
I have Exchange sync set on push, gmail set on push, and 2 other accounts set to 1 hour polling, and I get a full day's use out of the battery. Off the charger at 6 AM, back on around 11 PM (usually with about 25% battery remaining).
jgriff63 said:
I have Exchange sync set on push, gmail set on push, and 2 other accounts set to 1 hour polling, and I get a full day's use out of the battery. Off the charger at 6 AM, back on around 11 PM (usually with about 25% battery remaining).
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Same. But 9am to 2am
My battery will drain significantly faster just by having gmail sync activated...so for me, that's just as much of a kill. I don't really need that feature for the time being so I've turned it off which doubles my usage time
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Again syncing email with the company exchange server, syncing tweetdroid every 9 minutes after 8 hour so f very light use still at 86%
Perhaps volume of email is a factor. I get 200+ emails per day and I can imagine that having an affect on perceived battery drain
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[Q] CM6 and Exchange

I'd like to know about other people's experiences with CM6 and Exchange. With the stock email app, I have noticed at times that at times it would start using a lot of cpu, and stop receiving emails. I did have "all email" sync, but these issues would happen randomly after all of my mailbox was downloaded; could this have anything to do with it? I would have to reboot my phone for email to start working again. After reading about people's experience in the CM6 thread I thought it might be appropriate to have an altogether separate thread. I did notice some users having similar issues, and that TouchDown is a good alternative.
So about 2 weeks ago, I started trying it. Problem is, when I go to add a contact (discovered this by long pressing a number to create a contact), it will let me create a "TouchDown contact", but only with names. I contacted touchdown support and they said that no other applications can have access to TouchDown data for "security". I did put in a feature request for an optional contacts integration, because my Aria is a work phone, and every contact I add I *need* synced. I did think about adding contacts to Google account, and then installing Google/Outlook sync on my work pc, but this seems too convoluted.
Has CM6 exchange improved in any of the nightly builds? If I choose to go back to the stock email app, is there any way that if I run into these issues again I can provide debugging information? The only thing I really liked about TouchDown was the search email feature, but this is in no way a feature request for the stock email app. xD
Why not ask in the cm6 thread instead of starting a new one?
I've been using stock exchange mail client since the beginning of CM6 on aria, haven't ran into any major issues with it. The only problem I have with it is that sometimes the deleted email on aria still show up on desktop outlook.
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Just wanted to add that stock client does stop getting emails ( very rarely for me), instead of rebooting, I just forse close the app and restart it again.
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For adding/syncing contacts (using touchdown for email) I added the exchange account (under stock email settings) and set it to never check mail, but still sync contacts and calendar. I am going to see if this combination with touchdown works, as the email app is required to run if syncing exchange contacts is to work at all. I hope don't run into the process hanging without email actually syncing. I'm still waiting this trial out to see if touchdown is worth it; they did add a new feature that shows the number of new emails in the notification icon (I don't recall if this is in the stock email app).

Sgs lags only when using Samsung email

Hi,
As the title says. .can u guys try it out. .im running on foryo now but the same thing was on 2.1...
It only lags when i configure an email account in the email client. ..once deleted NO LAG. .
Btw what's up with the gps fuss. .mine is working perfectly infact its best gps and wifi in a phone i owned.
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SGS also lags when browsing through different memos in Memos application. It's hilarious!
u didn't get what im saying it only lags after configuring an email account. ..ex ur memo browsing might not lag if u remove ur email account. .
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Well, I don't have seperate email accounts configured, only Gmail.... so don't know about that.
Either you've never had a gps-enabled phone before, or your previous phones have been useless, as my experience is that my old G1 has better gps than my SGS - it locks MUCH faster and is 100% accurate, whereas the SGS never gets within 10m of my location and once I start moving it just goes haywire - MY Tracks shows me driving through fields and houses 90% of the time and occasionally I've done handbrake turns in someones front garden apparently.
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Either you've never had a gps-enabled phone before, or your previous phones have been useless, as my experience is that my old G1 has better gps than my SGS - it locks MUCH faster and is 100% accurate, whereas the SGS never gets within 10m of my location and once I start moving it just goes haywire - MY Tracks shows me driving through fields and houses 90% of the time and occasionally I've done handbrake turns in someones front garden apparently.
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I don't know but i never faced an issue like that and the fix is pretty fast compared to my touch pro and omnia 2
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Lag also without email-accounts
Since upgrading to FroYo 2 weeks ago i haven't bothered to enter my email-accounts. (only gmail)
But it still lags!
dspjern said:
Since upgrading to FroYo 2 weeks ago i haven't bothered to enter my email-accounts. (only gmail)
But it still lags!
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You can add my name to this list. I've never used Samsung's crappy E-mail app, yet my phone lags constantly.
Back to the drawing board, eh?
adel6 said:
Hi,
As the title says. .can u guys try it out. .im running on foryo now but the same thing was on 2.1...
It only lags when i configure an email account in the email client. ..once deleted NO LAG. .
Btw what's up with the gps fuss. .mine is working perfectly infact its best gps and wifi in a phone i owned.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
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I have experienced the same thing, i mainly experience the lag in the email app itself though. System Panel shows a steady 30% cpu usage when just looking at the email screen(s), and a steady continious +50% cpu when in the Accounts & Settings of the email accounts, so there is something odd. It seems to relate to Exchange accounts, but i'm not sure.
I read somewhere that a K9-mail user had a problem, downloading 20-25 messages took 10 minutes. After applying Voodoo Lagfix, this dropped to 2 seconds... So maybe the email app is really hammering the internal SD card for no good reason, which would explain the high CPU .
I've never used Samsung's crappy E-mail app
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the e-mail app on the Galaxy S identical to the "stock Android" one?
I use the GMail app myself and I have no problems with it. The Memo app turned painfully slow after the 2.2 update, but fortunately I don't use it
pwhooftman said:
I have experienced the same thing, i mainly experience the lag in the email app itself though. System Panel shows a steady 30% cpu usage when just looking at the email screen(s), and a steady continious +50% cpu when in the Accounts & Settings of the email accounts, so there is something odd. It seems to relate to Exchange accounts, but i'm not sure.
I read somewhere that a K9-mail user had a problem, downloading 20-25 messages took 10 minutes. After applying Voodoo Lagfix, this dropped to 2 seconds... So maybe the email app is really hammering the internal SD card for no good reason, which would explain the high CPU .
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I haven't bothered investigating cpu usage and such, but I can confirm that the email client profits tremendously from a lag fix (OCLF, in my case, using two Exchange accounts).
As stated in Post #11, i had the same problems. After Setting back to Factory Defaults and installing Voodoo Lagix last night, my conclusions are:
- the problem is introduced/highly aggrevated by installing Froyo 2.2 over Eclair 2.1, which i did through Kies with the registry hack two weeks ago.
- a format of the Internal SD Card, followed by a reset to Factory Defaults, solves the problem to a point the email app is useable again (albeit no speed monster). Also, this solved other ittermittent force closes which i was suffering from mostly in Agenda related apps. Of course you will loose all apps and data doing this.
- Applying Voodoo lagfix solved the speed issues almost completely. You can still tell the email app isn't the best programmed app of the bunch, but its perfectly workable. Installing Voodoo was a breeze following the step by step instructions found through project-voodoo.org.
It does seem a little more responsive after removing te email account.
I will try the voodoo lagfix. But I'm hoping for an updated version of FroYo.
Try this app for email including exchange, it was provided by seven for Samsung, but it was not put on all Galaxy S's, seems to work quite well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8731758&postcount=25
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Running JP6 with voodoo. The default mail app works nicely with two accounts. One exchange and one imap.
No lags even with a few days uptime.
Exchange email accounts drain battery fast on Scandinavian Froyo update
To illustrate something is amiss with the Scandinavian Froyo update, that Samsung pulled afterwards:
If you set up Exchange email accounts, setting the Email retrieval update interval to anything else than 'Never' results in a continious 10% CPU load, draining the battery two times faster than in Eclair 2.1
I set it to 'Never', or have Tasker kill the Email app x seconds after Display Off
Determined by using System Panel app.
Edit: flashed JPA firmware (which is believed to be the official Froyo update coming 11-11), problem still exists
Test with K9 and default Android Email app on i9000
Did a test on my i9000. Stock 2.1 no lag fix. Bought SIM-Free so only has Samsung's tweaks and no mobile operator branding.
I9000XXJM1
ECLAIR.XWJM2
TEST A. Default Email application
1. Used Email app (default one that comes with Android):
Added two Gmail accounts / IMAP, SMTP, SSL.
No unacceptable lag other than that encounted without the usual lag-fix.
2. Added 1 non-Gmail account / IMAP/ SMTP-AUTH, TLS
System became nearly inoperative. Swiping between home screens took 2 seconds. Using most apps, caused the screen to remain black for between 2 and 30 seconds. In one case using Xscope (browser, which was now impossible to use - unresponsive and 3 mins to draw a page) caused the screen to remain black for approx 3 mins. Contact, Messenger and Phone apps took a max of 2 seconds to open, but always opened. Outbound call quality degraded to the point the called party complained. I did not notice an app crash.
TEST B. K9 Mail application
1. Used K9-Mail app :
Added two Gmail accounts / IMAP, SMTP, SSL.
No unacceptable lag other than that encounted without the usual lag-fix.
2. Added 1 non-Gmail account / IMAP/ SMTP-AUTH, TLS
System became nearly inoperative. Swiping between home screens took 2 seconds. Using most apps, caused the screen to remain black for between 2 and 30 seconds. In one case using Xscope (browser, which was now impossible to use - unresponsive and 3 mins to draw a page) caused the screen to remain black for approx 3 mins. Contact, Messenger and Phone apps took a few seconds to open. Outbound call quality degraded to the point the called party complained. I did not notice an app crash. System load hit 39, which is very overloaded for a 1 CPU device. Often it was between 10 and 20.
I suspect the I/O but I did not see iostat in busybox; the stdout from top was badly formatted on the SGS display so I could not read the I/O column.
Notes:
i. Test B Result 2 is almost a copy and past of Test A Result 2. This is because the results were pretty much the same.
ii. System load (vmstat and top) I did not check system load with Test A. I only did this when I used K9-Mail.
iii. System was rebooted each time after an IMAP account was configured.
iv. I have since removed the non-Gmail IMAP accounts. It was hell. I almost beat the SGS into the wall.
v. Important: the non-Gmail IMAP account has the following in the mailbox:
Inbox 658 messages totalling 68.4Mb.
vi. K9-Mail configured to fetch full headers and messages <2kB hourly, and only the fetch the Inbox.
vii. NON-Gmail IMAP server capacities:
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR SORT THREAD=REFERENCES MULTIAPPEND UNSELECT LITERAL+ IDLE CHILDREN NAMESPACE LOGIN-REFERRALS UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 STARTTLS AUTH=PLAIN] Dovecot ready.
No problem here - Google use Dovecot.
viii. A factory reset was done between the two tests. (Settings -> Privacy -> Factory data reset)
viiii. GMAIL IMAP accounts contained approx 20 Emails each in the Inbox. I await more SPAM for testing purposes.
UPDATE.
I had 1,000 Emails sent to me on Gmail. Then reran Test A Part 1, and had the Email app load 114 of these. The SGS stated to lag. I opened one of the messages (containing only 1 line of ASCII email), and the Email partially opened the Email, splutted, stopped, hung, screen went black. Eventually, I closed the app down. Even the Active Applications widget (and the programme it lauches) is slow (and red).
I went onto Gmail and deleted the 1,000 Emails, and synced the Email app with Gmail IMAP server. Messages read 0, and the SGS was back to normal speed without lag-fix.
I soubt very much that any one is using a normal Email account with the SGS Email app. I suspect most are using Gmail with the Gmail application. I cannot comment on the lag fix (I await CyanogenMod for mine), but the SGS cannot be used with a non-Gmail account without a lag fix : useless for me since I only use Gmail for the Market ; Like many people, work provides the Email account. Clearly, Samsung test team did not test their wonderful RFS with normally sized IMAP accounts. Nice one, Samsung. 10 out of 10 for cocking it up.
As for GPS its something like thsi:
- Where are the sats?
Oh there they are.
Please don't move for 30 seconds.
Found some!
Oh feck, you've moved.
Now where are those pesky sats?
What was I doing? Oh sats!
Setting Exchange to'"Push" seems to solve it
I came across this and lo and behold, excessive CPU usage goes down to fairly normal 1-3% CPU while asleep by setting Email retrieval for Exchange accounts to "Push"
Edit: at least, it did for a while. Now its back to previous behaviour. I'm still investigating
Series of tests reveal that email client performs different in certain circumstances
I made a lot of testruns of about one hour to determine the effect of setting up Email Exchange clients on CPU usage and therefore battery life:
Starting point:
- Build Froyo.XWJPA
- Smallband I9000XXJPP
- Voodoo lagfix
- One Gmail account set up, syncing contacts, Gmail, Picassa, Agenda
- Tests run against two separate Exchange Server 2003 servers SP2
- CPU load determined with SystemPanel app
1. Installed Exchange account #1 without security policies. Email retrieval set to "Push".
- Email process used 0% CPU, system CPU floating around 3%
2. Set Exchange account #1 to retrieve email every hour
- Email process used 1,1% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
3. Set Exchange account #1 back to "Push"
- Email process used 0% CPU, system CPU floating around 3%
4. Set Exchange account #1 to retrieve every 5 minutes
- Email process used 1,5% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
4. Added Exchange Account #2 with security policy, Email retrieval set to "Push"
- - Email process used 0,5% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
5. Set Exchange account #2 to retrieve email every hour
- Email process used 1,5% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
So, what seem conclusions from this test:
1. One Exchange account set to `Push` doesn´t affect battery life much. 'Push' is generally considered the most battery effective.
2. One Exchange account set to some time interval does affect CPU considerably, therefore batterylife also. It's irrelevant what interval is set. The reason the total system CPU goes to around 10% seems to be that the process name ´system´ starts using several % CPU as soon as the email process does. Based on the experience that the email client is slow with an exchange account without a lagfix leads me to the conclusion the email app is performing large amounts of I/O in this setting. This link (comment 14) seems to confirm this. Experiences here (comment 15 & 16) are similar.
3. Adding another Exchange account with security policy enforced increases CPU, no matter at what interval this second account is set. This could be related to the bug found on Motorola Droid that when the Maximum inactivity time out in the Activesync properties on the Exchange server are set to a higher value than the highest supported value on the phone, the email app keeps the phone in a wake lock.
So, i just have my exchange accounts set to Never. For one account, automatic retrieval is useless anyways because mail gets delivered to subfolders (which do not sync or get pushed automatically). Fot the other, i'll just have to open the email app every now and then and let it fetch mail at that moment.
This problem doesn't seem to be limited to the Galaxy S, Motorola Droid is mentioned also in above threads.
Improved Email
I can advise everyone to look into "Improved Email" at http://www.mwebster.us/
It has the ability to sync specific subfolders, hide subfolders, apply color of your choice to the account, open up the email app in folder view, etc
Tip: first delete exisiting Exchange account and setup a new account from within the improved email app

loooking for an alternative to the gmail built in app?

Hi
I get the sending.... hanging problem with the galaxy s built in gmail app.
clearing the cache doesn't work, and using the other email app wont attach video , it just says too big.
what are the good alternative email programs?
Cheers
Hi,
I'm using K-9 Mail via an IMAP Account and are fairly happy with it. Only one thing: Push-Mail via IMAP-Idle drains the Battery like Hell... but a 15 Minute poll is fair enough (shorter Intervals are also available).
And it is FOSS...
Bye
ayn said:
Hi,
I'm using K-9 Mail via an IMAP Account and are fairly happy with it. Only one thing: Push-Mail via IMAP-Idle drains the Battery like Hell... but a 15 Minute poll is fair enough (shorter Intervals are also available).
And it is FOSS...
Bye
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cheers K9 came up in a google search, it sounds good
I turn off sync with email and check it manually when i want to.
its more about sending an email and it actually getting there . where the gmail app fails .
I check my mail on my main computer, but use my phone to 'quick check' stuff. but if an app is a 'beast that takes ages to open' that would be a pain. I didn't think about battery life, (cheers for that). so many apps just run in the background on my galaxy s. as much as i love it, it is another crazy computer in my life .
is K9 a free app or advertising/donation?
also any other suggestions welcome too
Are you sure the gmail app is failing? If you've got your phone to manually sync, the email will never send. The gmail app does not send emails as per request, they are put in a queue and sent out only when the phone syncs. Try it now. Send an email and keep syncing disabled. Nothing happens. Hi options the. Choose refresh option and I will push through the queued emails. As for file size limit, I wouldn't know but I have added a total of 5.8mb in an email which sent fine.
Edit: re read your post. Use the gmail app and try what I said, it has no issues with file size like other **** apps.
galaxy44 said:
is K9 a free app or advertising/donation?
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K9 is free open source software without any kind of adds or something else.
SargeRX8 said:
Are you sure the gmail app is failing? If you've got your phone to manually sync, the email will never send. The gmail app does not send emails as per request, they are put in a queue and sent out only when the phone syncs. Try it now. Send an email and keep syncing disabled. Nothing happens. Hi options the. Choose refresh option and I will push through the queued emails. As for file size limit, I wouldn't know but I have added a total of 5.8mb in an email which sent fine.
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its a known issue:
http://www.google.co.uk/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=1363d927a73ee840&hl=en
send sometimes works
sometimes doesn't (usually when i attach pic or video)
i can send very small test messages by clicking refresh
SargeRX8 said:
Try it now. Send an email and keep syncing disabled. Nothing happens. Hi options the. Choose refresh option and I will push through the queued emails. As for file size limit, I wouldn't know but I have added a total of 5.8mb in an email which sent fine.
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i always use refresh to send the email with sync disabled
its a know issue
the file size issue is to do with the 'other' email program that came with my phone.
I've ruled both out as not fit for purpose.
but i don't want to try hundreds of apps so i thought a few good recommendations might help.
cheers anyway, but I'm giving up on the gmail app.
quick update:
I've tried K9
it had success sending video attachments (that were stuck on gmail app or cancelled on the other galaxy s email app)
the bad
when it set up, it took ages (i have 1000s of email on my gmail account. so it could just be that)
it doesn't seem to group the emails (like replies from forums etc) can i set the settings to do this?
the names like expunge and poll (empty trash and refresh)
it seems a bit slower than the gmail app? but i could just be me
i'm trying to get used to the scrolling left and right in messages.
the good
it showed the full message
it could send video attachments to gmail (is 25mb max for gmail)
it sent the items (unlike the gmail app)
it seems pretty equipped with options
looks ok
I'm still not sure
What else might i try?
ok
I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S
I shoot 3 videos (all 3 are about 7mb)
Gmail can handle attachments up to 25MB
Gmail app always gets stuck on sending (with no warning to let you know its not sent)
MMS wont convert the files
Other Email app wont accept the file size
K9 sends them (which is a step forward)
but doesn't group messages by conversation
also it has the push always running (i don't know what push is)
and seems to always be checking my mail (I don't mind exploring the oddly named and confusing settings if its the program i am going to use)
also the built in gmail app shortens messages so replies from this forum wont display the link to the topic (pretty annoying) the other built in email app does display the link long enough to click.
I feel very frustrated.
I just wanted to send a couple of funny videos to my friend via any means.
And it feels like my Samsung Galaxy S is just completely against me doing this in any easy fashion
I might keep K9 but turn all the setting to check the email off and use it if i want to send a file.
how do i turn the check mail settings off on k9 (the options are confusing, confusingly named, and different depending on where you are in the program.
if i turn K9 off, and use it only occasionally will it take ages to open if i keep all my messages on the server?
Or is there a fourth email program:
that opens fast
groups the messages
sends attachments up to 25mb
Cheers
i tried Maildroid but he adds were annoying.
back to K9:
How do i stop K9 automatically checking mail?
and how do stop the k9 mail service app running constantly (i assume its the push thing)
I'm thinking of keeping the app on there to send files by email, and for links that don't show up properly like replies from this forum. but i don't want it spanking my battery or checking for emails
How do i set it up for "there when i need it"?
the options are confusing and have nonsense kind of names.
Cheers

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