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so, i have ordered, and not yet received (get tomorrow) my nexus one. one of the things about it is that i only have the 500 minute plan (no, i didn't wanna drop 530 on a phone, lol), but coincidentally, i also like to game on the ps3 with a friend. unlike xbox, ps3 doesn't do private chat, so coordinating is actually easier with a cell phone. because i don't want to eat minutes, my intention was to actually skype him through my wifi. however, now i'm finding out, to the best of my knowledge, our option is 'skype lite', which is essentially a turd, and doesn't do anything for me except route my calls through skype on my phoneline, still using my minutes = worthless to me.
so, you guys have been fiddling with android for a while yet, i'm guessing, and i'm wondering what the best option/workaround is. i've heard mention of 'fring', but am not familiar with it. same with 'iskoot'.
gimme the digs, gents (or ladies, as the case may be). how can i voip using my phone to my buddies, without chewing phone minutes?
appreciated
-t
You're paying for the phone regardless. Contract monthly rate is more than non contract rate.
Google Voice comes pre-installed on the N1.
If you don't have a GV account, sign-up for one. It's still by invite only so it may take awhile before you get the invite.
Then you can just go into the 'Voice' app and select to make all calls via Google Voice (which means FREE, doesn't utilize your voice minutes).
You can use fring which has skype call support
Nimbuzz and Fring work well.
Countries outside the US don't get google voice yet.
Namuna said:
Google Voice comes pre-installed on the N1.
If you don't have a GV account, sign-up for one. It's still by invite only so it may take awhile before you get the invite.
Then you can just go into the 'Voice' app and select to make all calls via Google Voice (which means FREE, doesn't utilize your voice minutes).
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You seem to get a GV account automatically with the Nexus One but it still uses your minutes!
Google Voice is not a voice service. You'll still use cell minutes using that alone. You'll need something like Gizmo to voice call over data.
Personally, I use SIPDroid, which integrated perfectly with the N1, GV, and Gizmo. Simply install it, and set up SIPDroid with the settings here:
androidcommunity.com/forums/f4/how-to-free-calls-via-wifi-using-google-voice-and-gizmo5-21836/
Then all calls will always attempt to go through data, if it fails, it will fall back to a normal phone call. Works perfect.
sipdroid supports the industry standard for VoIP (i.e. SIP, like the former gizmo5). You can call other software SIP clients, hardware SIP phones, and SIP<->telephone network gateways.
thanks guys, i'll give this a shot.
and, i already have a GV account. and 2 more invites, lol. i'll just sit on those for a bit...
GV will definitely use minutes, which is what i wanted to avoid. i'll see how the voip options work out. much appreciated.
and, if anyone has any more help/suggestions, it'd be greatly appreciated!
-t
darnit, gizmo5 is no longer an option. new user registration has been suspended :/
Use sipdroid to tie with GV and that should prevent the minute usage. I use sipdroid with gizmo 5 and that works but sipdroid has its shortcomings though. but it works and if you're on 3G, no one can tell the difference. Check the G1/dream forums for more info on sipdroid. There's also a thread over there about sipdroid/skype and another app for totally free minutes....
agentkalaw said:
Use sipdroid to tie with GV and that should prevent the minute usage. I use sipdroid with gizmo 5 and that works but sipdroid has its shortcomings though. but it works and if you're on 3G, no one can tell the difference. Check the G1/dream forums for more info on sipdroid. There's also a thread over there about sipdroid/skype and another app for totally free minutes....
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I am also using sipdroid, GV and gizmo5. I setup GV to forward to gizmo, and setup sipdroid to login to my gizmo account. All incoming calls to gizmo are free. However if you originate an outgoing call with gizmo, you will be charged the per minute rate by gizmo. To get around this, I use the GV website to originate the call, so that it calls my gizmo account first then connects the call.
Works great so far.
dang. wish that the gizmo site was still open for new members. :/
I suspect that they closed it once google bought them. They might have invites soon, because google will prolly integrate this they of hack into their google voice service. . .
Yes it was closed when Google bought Gizmo5. Are there any other alternatives?
Take a look at this article about the Nexus One subsidized vs ubsubsidized.
He mentions this:
an unsubsidized Nexus One with a data-only T-Mobile plan ($39.99/month), a Skype subscription for unlimited calls to mobile and landlines anywhere in the US and Canada ($2.95(!)/month), and a SkypeIn number ($30/year).
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I wonder how he set that up? I'ld pay $3/month and $30/yr for calls.
I have been trying to configure sipgate pbxes.org Google voice and sipdroid to work but i haven't been able to do it properly if anybody could help me out i would appreciate it
Sipdroid works great on my G1 and N1. I highly recommend it. Give it a try.
MO-Call app for Android
Hi,
Can you try this one, called MO-Call, for making cheap or free international calls?
They support over 2170 handsets on all platforms.
Give a try and let me know what you think.
Cheers
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So I've been researching how deaf and hearing impaired people use Android phones to make communication easier and, in this process, I've been checking on which carriers offer special plans for such users.
Apparently Sprint has a $29.99 a month plan that is data only, and unlimited data at that.
http://www.sprintrelaystore.com/data_only_plan.htm
Yes, it's intended for users who will be using their Relay service (to make voice calls by typing text etc.) But they don't restrict it to such purposes.
Interesting.
You can get a Moment or Hero on such a plan if you open a new line. Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what everyone thinks of it. Maybe some of our Sprint employees can explain more of how this plan works to us?
What would you do to make voice calls...exactly?
wirelessness said:
What would you do to make voice calls...exactly?
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In theory, this might be refuted, you could use Google Voice.
It's funny I was chatting with sprint about this exact same. thing last night. If I could just figure out how to receive calls I will switch to this in a heartbeat. We only use about 400 of the 1500 minutes. And still pay for all of them it seems wasteful.
You could go to voicestick.com and buy their $2.99/month pay-as-you-go minutes plan and set that account up with SIPDroid (or any SIP client really). I have the normal Everything data plan, but I also use that plan because I have that for my home phone.
If you use pbxes.org you can get a nice setup with a ring group, and the same number can ring your home phone, your cell phone (via the SIP client), and any number of things.
If anyone's interested, let me know once you have the right accounts and I'll help you with the setup.
would skype work over the data connection?
Or is it the same as google voice where a voice call is still required?
Last i tried skype it was beta for android and it worked loke gvoice, not voip for us yet.
I'm pretty tied to GV and it requires a voice line. Would me nice to use SIP/VOIP if possible though.
skype-to-skype calling works with Fring, and it also has a SIP plugin, although I haven't tried it.
I read on another forum that some people get cheaper featurephones with cheap voice only plans and then get something like an SRDO plan with an Android handset.
Apparently they like separating out the functions... weird to me.
[Accidental double post. Sorry.]
GVoice forwards to Gizmo which can be setup as a the SIP provider in SIPDroid. The Guava project has something like this setup, I don't know much about it beyond its intent. I use SIP/Gizmo as a landline replacement at home via a GVoice number and it works beautifully. My tests with SIP on 3G/2G were less impressive, I don't think it's a "prime time" solution just yet.
In theory this is where cells will go eventually, a data connection and nothing more, no per-minute or per-transaction services, it will be more like an ISP. Data, text, chat, voice, apps, etc, will be delivered on the same pipe. We're practically there now. Add tethering to the mix and this could be the ONLY data pipe you need.
I have use the whole GV + Sipsorcery + sipdroid setup because I don't get reception at my house, so my I use my hero for wifi calls while at home. Most of the time, no one notices the difference. But I think it depends on how many people are using the internet in my area because sometimes there is a delay on the line, but a lot of other times there isn't. For some reason, it actually works better for me when I am using evdo instead of wifi. All of my friends have told me that I sound better while using sipdroid vs the sprint network. Kind of weird.
To that end, my friend brought his t-mobile android over. He is on their data only plan and since he lives in downtown St. Louis the he always has a data connection. So his bill is SUPER cheap by doing all of this and he is raving about it. He never turns his wifi on and uses the same setup as me. He claims he never has any problems, the only drawback being his battery drains faster now.
I wouldn't tell people to just start doing this though because I still encounter problems. Such as I my phone will only ring once and sometimes not at all. It is being routed through three services and like I said, there is a delay sometimes. But then again, sometimes I will go a whole week with it working PERFECTLY.
Maybe someone here might have some advice the proper setup to make this more stable for me. Otherwise I am going to pursue that airave device.
I'll point out again that Sprint's primary purpose in having the SRDO plans is for deaf or hearing impaired users who don't need voice service.
However, it is an interesting idea for those of us who like to tinker, too (=
afazel said:
You could go to voicestick.com and buy their $2.99/month pay-as-you-go minutes plan and set that account up with SIPDroid (or any SIP client really). I have the normal Everything data plan, but I also use that plan because I have that for my home phone.
If you use pbxes.org you can get a nice setup with a ring group, and the same number can ring your home phone, your cell phone (via the SIP client), and any number of things.
If anyone's interested, let me know once you have the right accounts and I'll help you with the setup.
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thanks
gomorrah said:
In theory, this might be refuted, you could use Google Voice.
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False. Google Voice does not include the capability--technologically or otherwise--to carry voice calls over either data or voice bands (...yet; i say "yet" because it seems only natural that a tech-conglomerate like Google might go this route in the future. They've annouced no such plans)
You could use Skype/Fring.
So, in theory:
I could open a new line with this on my old Diamond for ICS only?
I'm reviving an ancient thread here, but, as @flexgrip alluded to above, if you can get a gizmo5 account and a sipsorcery account, someone on a data-only plan can have 100% free voip using your Google Voice number.
You just need to forward your GV calls to gizmo5. Gizmo charges for outgoing calls, but what you can do is setup a sipsorcery account, and route your incoming calls from gizmo (free), but use google voice for your outgoing calls (also free). Now you just use your sipsorcery account as the sip provider in sipdroid. People you call will see your GV # as caller ID, and, of course, calls people place to your Google Voice number will be routed to you.
Gizmo5 accounts (no longer accepting new registrations) can be bought for less than $10 on ebay. Sipsorcery wasn't (temporarily) taking new registrations either the last I checked, but I'm guessing these can be had if you look in the right place as well.
Sipsorcery can have a bit of a learning curve, but there are ready-made tutorials on setting up gizmo5 + GV in sipsorcery online. It's a one-time setup.
Why do you need sipsorcery? It worked with just gv and gizmo5 last time I used it, right before google bought it. Did the change something up?
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Why do you need sipsorcery? It worked with just gv and gizmo5 last time I used it, right before google bought it. Did the change something up?
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Gizmo charges for outgoing calls, and plus they've disabled the service they used to have that lets you show a custom number (like your GV #) as your outgoing caller ID.
So unless you want to use voice minutes or go on the web for outgoing calls . . .
Sipsorcery allows you to create a singular sip account that receives the incoming GV>gizmo forward, while making outgoing calls directly from Google Voice (which, of course, is free and posts the same number for caller ID).
Unless there's a new way I'm not aware of, this was what I learned when I was obsessed with finding the cheapest way to make data calls a while back.
Most people already know what google voice is about and how it works, but few may not know how to make free calls without using airtime or minutes.
Here's how to save $$$.
Make a call with Google voice and add the "outgoing number" (the number you see at the top of the call screen momentarily when connecting) to your Friends & Family List. Most cell providers have a name for a few reserved slots that you can add to your calling plan. AT&T calls it the A-List & TMO calls it Friends and Family.
Add that number to the list. You can add a forwarded line (like your office or home etc) to the A-List for incoming calls. Add your Google voice number also.
In the Google voice account go to Settings / Voice Settings / Calls Tab.
Google ID IN & Google ID Out should be checked to Display Google Voice Number.
You might give up the caller ID at a cost of making free calls that will show up as M2AN (A-List calls for AT&T) and another code for TMO on the bill.
In order for this to work, your calling plan has to support A-List or Friends and Family with an active data connection.
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Most people already know what google voice is about and how it works, but few may not know how to make free calls without using airtime or minutes.
Here's how to save $$$.
Make a call with Google voice and add the "outgoing number" (the number you see at the top of the call screen momentarily when connecting) to your Friends & Family List. Most cell providers have a name for a few reserved slots that you can add to your calling plan. AT&T calls it the A-List & TMO calls it Friends and Family.
Add that number to the list. You can add a forwarded line (like your office or home etc) to the A-List for incoming calls. Add your Google voice number also.
In the Google voice account go to Settings / Voice Settings / Calls Tab.
Google ID IN & Google ID Out should be checked to Display Google Voice Number.
You might give up the caller ID at a cost of making free calls that will show up as M2AN (A-List calls for AT&T) and another code for TMO on the bill.
In order for this to work, your calling plan has to support A-List or Friends and Family with an active data connection.
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I thought this was eliminated due to the recent update in GV?
As long as you know the incoming numbers and outgoing numbers for GV, nobody is going to stop you from adding them to the A-List.
But the point of the original was that you would add one number and be able to call that one number and reach anyone you wanted. But now its no difference then adding any number to an A-list, right?
The original post is the same as the follow up. Add any numbers to the A-List especially google incoming and outgoing numbers then airtime won't be billed.
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The original post is the same as the follow up. Add any numbers to the A-List especially google incoming and outgoing numbers then airtime won't be billed.
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Yeah I know what you meant, but I though google broke this in the newest update.
They did.
This method is over a year old. Next time search the forum before posting your out-dated "discovery".
Technically they broke it only for Google Voice. What makes Android so special is that someone else created a program, one of which is called "Google Voice Callback" that lets those of us who have a Fav 5 list still call everyone for free using Google Voice, even with the update.
TL;DR The trick still works, just use a program like Google Voice Callback (FREE in the Market)
Vonage for Facebook is free voip.
www.androidappjudge.com has a link to their site (shameless site plug)
Good F-grief. There's always some moron who has nothing better to do than flame posts. Not everybody in these forums has had this phone over a year. Of course this is old news jackazz, just wanted to help some of the newer guys since voip has been a current topic. I'm tired of A-holes flaming posts when somebody wants to help.
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10000000x better idea:
Add your Google Voice number to your A-List / Friend and Family.
Go to www.google.com/voice on your phone.
Click a contact and call from there.
Ta-da. 100% free calls, no need to worry about all these other random numbers.
(Or just down-grade to 0.3.4 like I did since there's no benefit to the latest version anyway.)
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Good F-grief. There's always some moron who has nothing better to do than flame posts. Not everybody in these forums has had this phone over a year. Of course this is old news jackazz, just wanted to help some of the newer guys since voip has been a current topic. I'm tired of A-holes flaming posts when somebody wants to help.
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I'm pretty sure he wasn't flaming. Just informing. Your post, on the other hand, was burning hot. Calm down, it's the internet.
kthanx
Paul22000 said:
10000000x better idea:
Add your Google Voice number to your A-List / Friend and Family.
Go to www.google.com/voice on your phone.
Click a contact and call from there.
Ta-da. 100% free calls, no need to worry about all these other random numbers.
(Or just down-grade to 0.3.4 like I did since there's no benefit to the latest version anyway.)
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if you don't have myfave on your Tmobile plan like me use this here
obviously that is if you have magicjack
yozpalang said:
if you don't have myfave on your Tmobile plan like me use this here
obviously that is if you have magicjack
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But doesn't MagicJack cost money?
Paul22000 said:
But doesn't MagicJack cost money?
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Sorry my my bad but it is only $20 a year
Does this work in canada...
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Sip calling?
There is another way to do it without the myfaves if you use sipdroid or another program similar. You have to set yourself up with a sip number, which is free on a couple of sites (using sipgate currently).
Then set up your Google Voice callback, this lets you select whether you want to use the wifi(or 3g) calling. For incoming calls you can also force them to go to your free number.
I'm sure there are some good tutorials around if you need more info.
I used Google Voice, Gizmo5, Sipdroid, and Google Voice Callback app to get free calls. Did this on my N1 before I got tmobile service, and was doing it all over wifi. It also works over 3g or wifi. The wifi route could be a great way to give your old phones that are collecting dust a new life, by making them SIP phones.
Here is a basic rundown of steps:
1) First get a gizmo5 account, I had one from before, but they stopped new users. If you want one then check out ebay, they are only $5-10. Once you have gizmo you will have a SIP number in that account which will be used in the next step.
2) Download sipdroid from the android market. Go to settings and click on the SIP Account Settings.
In the box for Authorization username put in you gizmo5 number (put a 1 before the number). In the box below labelled Password just put in your gizmo password. In the box labeled "Server or Proxy"
put in proxy01.sipphone.com . In username or caller ID box i put in gizmo number again with 1 in front (dont know if this is necessary, but mine is working with it in). For the box that says Port it should be set to 5060. Thats all you need to do for the SIP Account Settings.
Press back on the sipdroid app to get to the main settings page and select the Advanced Options. Click on "Use STUN Server" and enable it. For STUN Server name put in stun01.sipphone.com . Then for "STUN Server port put in 3478 .
3) Now just go to your google voice site on your computer and go to the Voice Settings. Under phones you need to add your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number) as a forward number (on the right there is also a drop down box, you need to select Gizmo as the type of phone). It will confirm dial to test the phone, your cell phone should ring now if you followed my exact steps.
4) For free outgoing calls download Google Voice Call Free app from the market (This is different than googles own voice app!). Simple put in your google sign in and password in the boxes. Then for Callback number put in your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number), on the drop down box select "Gizmo" as type of phone. Your done and now you have free calls incoming and outgoing.
smachine said:
I used Google Voice, Gizmo5, Sipdroid, and Google Voice Callback app to get free calls. Did this on my N1 before I got tmobile service, and was doing it all over wifi. It also works over 3g or wifi. The wifi route could be a great way to give your old phones that are collecting dust a new life, by making them SIP phones.
Here is a basic rundown of steps:
1) First get a gizmo5 account, I had one from before, but they stopped new users. If you want one then check out ebay, they are only $5-10. Once you have gizmo you will have a SIP number in that account which will be used in the next step.
2) Download sipdroid from the android market. Go to settings and click on the SIP Account Settings.
In the box for Authorization username put in you gizmo5 number (put a 1 before the number). In the box below labelled Password just put in your gizmo password. In the box labeled "Server or Proxy"
put in proxy01.sipphone.com . In username or caller ID box i put in gizmo number again with 1 in front (dont know if this is necessary, but mine is working with it in). For the box that says Port it should be set to 5060. Thats all you need to do for the SIP Account Settings.
Press back on the sipdroid app to get to the main settings page and select the Advanced Options. Click on "Use STUN Server" and enable it. For STUN Server name put in stun01.sipphone.com . Then for "STUN Server port put in 3478 .
3) Now just go to your google voice site on your computer and go to the Voice Settings. Under phones you need to add your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number) as a forward number (on the right there is also a drop down box, you need to select Gizmo as the type of phone). It will confirm dial to test the phone, your cell phone should ring now if you followed my exact steps.
4) For free outgoing calls download Google Voice Call Free app from the market (This is different than googles own voice app!). Simple put in your google sign in and password in the boxes. Then for Callback number put in your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number), on the drop down box select "Gizmo" as type of phone. Your done and now you have free calls incoming and outgoing.
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This post inspired me to purchase a Gizmo5 account on eBay this afternoon.
After a few minutes, I had it all set up and BOOM, calling worked immediately!
Wow, so simple, I wish I had done this before!!!
Thanks!!!
(Word of note: for some reason it wouldn't authenticate on my work's wifi, but worked fine at home. After Googling around, it looks like certain security settings aren't compatible with SipDroid -- I'm guessing most likely it's due to SipDroid needing a random open port -- so your mileage may vary. At home of course, you can do whatever you want so there should be no issue.)
Paul22000 said:
This post inspired me to purchase a Gizmo5 account on eBay this afternoon.
After a few minutes, I had it all set up and BOOM, calling worked immediately!
Wow, so simple, I wish I had done this before!!!
Thanks!!!
(Word of note: for some reason it wouldn't authenticate on my work's wifi, but worked fine at home. After Googling around, it looks like certain security settings aren't compatible with SipDroid -- I'm guessing most likely it's due to SipDroid needing a random open port -- so your mileage may vary. At home of course, you can do whatever you want so there should be no issue.)
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Glad this helped you out. I tried to explain each and every step so there was no room for error. I never ran into issues with wifi connections at home, starbucks, airports, hotels, but im guessing your work blocked alot of ports.
OK, I have been testing a few different sip providers since hearing gizmo5 is on life support and the plug being pulled in april...
Keep in mind that ANY sip provider can be used (you just need to know the credentials)
So for example, if you have at&t uverse voip telephone, then you can set it up on your nexus s (as well as your cable provider voip or magic jack)
I don't use those, so I can't tell you how to do it, but it is all the same...
instructions
-download sipdroid from the market
-run sipdroid and click "New PBX linked to my Google Voice"
-enter username and password (note if you already have a pbxes account delete it or choose a new username)
-delete/uninstall sipdroid (you no longer need it because gingerbread can do voip natively, you just needed it to configure your pbxes account)
-now go to your phone settings/ call settings/ accounts
add account
username- your name/nickname-200
password- check pbxes for password(same as pbxes under extensions-sipdroid<200>)
server- pbxes.org
[set as primary]
couple things to note- to receive incoming calls check the box, but as it says, battery life will be reduced
with cm7, "internet" calls can be placed over 3g...so using this option all your calls can be free* ...every thing goes through google voice
add "some" personal data so they realize it is not a "drone" account
advanced "not working for free accounts"
go to pbxes.org and sign up for a free account
after you finish entering and verifying log out and log back in
go to the left hand side and click extensions and "add extension" then "sip"
Add SIP Extension
Extension Number: 200
Display Name: your name (or nickname)
Webcall not used
URL: http://pbxes.org/
Text:
Image:
Latitude:
Longitude:
Device Options
password whatever you want
Voicemail & Directory: to link gv
voicemail password: google voice password
email address: [email protected]
email attachment: yes no
Play CID: yes no
Play Envelope: yes no
Play Next: yes no
Delete Vmail: yes no
vm options:
submit and save
NEXT
click on trunks, then add trunks and select sip
at the end of the URL it will have =SIP change this to =GTALK and hit enter (see below)
https://www2.pbxes.com/config.php?display=6&tech=GTALK
enter google username and password and save
Add inbound and outbound routing
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gizmo R.I.P.
Ok it has been two days and no one has ported over the tmobile wifi calling apk so I decided to do some research and get the native wifi (internet) calling working
this is a tutorial that has been done before for the nexus one using sipdroid...but we don't need that app for the NS.
not only does it work very good, but you can also make unlimited free wifi calls with it using one extra step
1- you need to get a sip client, there are many out there (I tried a bunch with no success), so I ended up using gizmo5
(gizmo5 was just recently purchased by google and is not accepting new accounts, but you can buy a "unused" one on ebay for $8 give or take)
2-Log into https://my.gizmo5.com -> Change email -> Change password -> Write down your Sip Number and username
3-on you phone go to settings/call settings/(internet call settings at bottom)accounts/add account
4-username: Gizmo username
password: Gizmo password
server: proxy01.sipphone.com
set as primary account (check)
*optional settings all remain default
5-after you back out it will save the setting and verify the account you can check receive incoming calls (needed for connecting google voice) and how you "use internet calling" as well
thats it, add money to your gizmo account and make wifi calls within the US for 1c a minute (or international for sightly more)
for added convenience connect gizmo to your google voice (needed for free calls as well)
6-go to https://www.google.com/voice
go to Settings > Phones
click "Add another phone"
name: Gizmo
number: +1747(gizmo5 #)
phone type: Gizmo
*verify the number
for free outgoing calls one more step is needed..
7-go to the market and download "google voice callback free" (or donate version)
8-enter your gmail address and password
-enter callback number-"gizmo number"
-check auto-answer the callback
Thats it wifi calling! free if you want (my experience is the call quality is a little better when you are paying a penny a minute (btw thats $10 for 1000 mins...beat that cell provider!)
This is pure VoIP solution. It does not use any voice minutes. It does not incur any charges for incoming calls either. If you are on WiFi, this is a completely free solution.
for outging calls you will incur a small per minute VoIP charge from Gizmo. It costs a fraction of what most cell plans charge.
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credits-jacksonj51, smachine, Paul22000, Dave's Tech Shop
yet another solution....
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how to: DETAILED 100% FREE Wifi/VoIP calling set up
I decided to write up this EXTREMELY DETAILED “step by step guide for dummies” on how to set up everything you need WITHOUT HAVING TO PURCHASE ANYTHING (ie. a Gizmo5 account off ebay, or calling minutes/credits)” to be able to place AND receive calls COMPLETLY FREE using WiFi. I’ve noticed that there are quite a few people here that are pretty lost, in regards to setting up this really cool feature on their Nexus S.... so I hope that this detailed “how to” clears up most all of the confusion. Not to mention that this is a 100% TOTALLY FREE way to set this feature (where as the other “how to’s” require that you buy a Gizmo5 account if you don’t already have one).
All you need is:
- your Nexus S (or any other WiFi enabled phone, I guess).
- a FREE Sipgate account
- a FREE Google Voice account (which you should have already anyways).
- the “Google Voice Callback FREE” app (free).
1 - Go to Sipgate.com and sign up for the free account (this will give you free incoming calls)
2 - Once your done setting up your account, click on “settings”.
3 - Click on “Sip Credentials” on the right hand side of the page.
4 - All the information you need to enter into your phone will be here.
5 - Get your phone, turn on WiFi (if not already done so), & go into your phone’s “Settings” …then “Accounts” (under the Internet Call Settings).
6 - Click “Add Account”.
7 - For your username, enter the “SIP-ID” which is shown on the “Sip Credentials” page (see step 3 & 4 above) ****NOTE: this is NOT the user name that you chose when you signed up with Sipgate, this “username” is generated & chosen for you by Sipgate****.
8 - For your password, enter the “SIP-Password” which is shown on the “Sip Credentials” page (see step 3 & 4 above) ****NOTE: this is NOT the password that you chose when you signed up with Sipgate, this “password” is generated & chosen for you by Sipgate****.
9 - For your Server, enter “sipgate.com”.
10 - UN-CHECK the “Set as primary account” box (used for outbound calls)..... that is, unless you DON’T want to use the Google Voice Callback app to be able to place calls for free too (steps 14 &15 below).
11 - Press the “back” button on your phone (which will save the info), and CHECK the box that says “Receive incoming calls” (reduces battery life).
12 - Under “SIP accounts” (on the same screen, on your phone), you will see your username @sipgate.com, and underneath it, the status of your connection will be displayed. It should say “receiving calls” (which means that everything is set up right & you are ready to go!!).
13 - Go to your Google Voice account & add your new Sipgate phone number to your Google Voice account (I believe that you can chose whatever “phone type” you want from the dropdown box, except for Gizmo). Verify the number (you will receive your first FREE WiFi call, from Google Voice).
14 - Now open up your “Android Market” and search for “Google Voice Callback FREE”. Download & install it. Once installed, it will be titled “GVoice Callback” in your apps list.
15 - Set up GVoice Callback according to your own personal preferences. Just make sure that you select your new Sipgate phone number as the “Callback Number”. Also check the “Offical GV app compatibility” box. I also checked the “Auto-answer the callback” box (though I don’t think this is necessarily required).
16 - Finally, exit out of that & go back into your phone’s settings. Go to “Additional settings” and just make sure that the “Call waiting” box is checked.
17 - And you’re done!! You can now place AND receive FREE phone calls using WiFi (through your Google Voice number).
****NOTE: One thing that I’ve noticed is that GVoice Callback only works on 10-digit phone numbers -so just make sure that you’ve included the area code in the phone number of all your local contacts if you want to be able to call them using GVoice Callback****
****ADDITIONAL NOTE: If you have been connected to WiFi for a while, and are trying to make a WiFi call, but you aren't getting a call back from Google Voice (you are stuck on the screen that says "waiting for call back").... just go back into your phone, and go to: "Settings" then "Accounts" (under Internet call settings), and then UN-CHECK the "Receive incoming calls" box. Wait a second or two, and then RE-CHECK the box. Also, try turning off & then on again your GV Callback app. After toggling these two things off & then back on again, you should be able to make the call & be connected relatively quickly (within a couple seconds)****
****ONE MORE THING OF NOTE: It has become apparent that, at times, the party which you are calling will hear an echo of their own voice, when using this set up. Perhaps a different SIP provider will resolve this issue?? Either way, I hope that this guide at least clarifies the process of setting something like this up. If a better method (better SIP provider, etc) is found, be sure to let me know****
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I was going to purchase a sipp account today but i had no money in my paypal tomorrow i will
Thaanks ! I just tried it and it works great.
Would it work also if we just ripped the T-Mobile apk from somewhere and installed it? This is a variant of UMA, correct?
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Wheres the sip phone icon? I have it set to only call for internet calls. In the google demos, it actually shows a second phone icon with "sip" written on it. Where is that? Only getting it to work if its set to choose everytime or always
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ogdobber said:
Ok it has been two days and no one has ported over the tmobile wifi calling apk so I decided to do some research and get the native wifi (internet) calling working
this is a tutorial that has been done before for the nexus one using sipdroid...but we don't need that app for the NS.
not only does it work very good, but you can also make unlimited free wifi calls with it using one extra step
1- you need to get a sip client, there are many out there (I tried a bunch with no success), so I ended up using gizmo5
(gizmo5 was just recently purchased by google and is not accepting new accounts, but you can buy a "unused" one on ebay for $8 give or take)
2-Log into https://my.gizmo5.com -> Change email -> Change password -> Write down your Sip Number and username
3-on you phone go to settings/call settings/(internet call settings at bottom)accounts/add account
4-username: Gizmo username
password: Gizmo password
server: proxy01.sipphone.com
set as primary account (check)
*optional settings all remain default
5-after you back out it will save the setting and verify the account you can check receive incoming calls and how you "use internet calling" as well
thats it, add money to your gizmo account and make wifi calls within the US for 1c a minute (or international for sightly more)
for added convenience connect gizmo to your google voice (needed for free calls as well)
6-go to https://www.google.com/voice
go to Settings > Phones
click "Add another phone"
name: Gizmo
number: +1747(gizmo5 #)
phone type: Gizmo
*verify the number
for free outgoing calls one more step is needed..
7-go to the market and download "google voice callback free" (or donate version)
8-enter your gmail address and password
-enter callback number-"gizmo number"
-check auto-answer the callback
Thats it wifi calling! free if you want (my experience is the call quality is a little better when you are paying a penny a minute (btw thats $10 for 1000 mins...beat that cell provider!)
This is pure VoIP solution. It does not use any voice minutes. It does not incur any charges for incoming calls either. If you are on WiFi, this is a completely free solution.
for outging calls you will incur a small per minute VoIP charge from Gizmo. It costs a fraction of what most cell plans charge.
credits-jacksonj51, smachine, Paul22000, Dave's Tech Shop
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Oggs you have more moves than a chess board lol
JD
zachthemaster said:
Would it work also if we just ripped the T-Mobile apk from somewhere and installed it? This is a variant of UMA, correct?
Sent from my Nexus S
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Think this could get figured out in the next 10 days? If not, I have to seriously consider taking this phone back. I don't get cell coverage at my house.
ugh....
I'm having issues linking my gizmo account with GV account. My Gizmo will ring, but GV will not accept the verification code - it keeps saying "sorry, I didin't catch that." Has anyone experienced similar issues?
zachthemaster said:
Would it work also if we just ripped the T-Mobile apk from somewhere and installed it? This is a variant of UMA, correct?
Sent from my Nexus S
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the tmo apk won't work without a kernel that supports it, the lib files and a build prop mod...no, the tmobile uma client uses your cell minutes...this does not, it is pure voip
JupiterDroid said:
Oggs you have more moves than a chess board lol
JD
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b84cops said:
Think this could get figured out in the next 10 days? If not, I have to seriously consider taking this phone back. I don't get cell coverage at my house.
ugh....
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I was in the same boat, that is why I researched how to do this...now I am set. this is better than the tmobile app because it doesn't use your minutes
lithdoc said:
I'm having issues linking my gizmo account with GV account. My Gizmo will ring, but GV will not accept the verification code - it keeps saying "sorry, I didin't catch that." Has anyone experienced similar issues?
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you are ahead of yourself... "turn off" all google voice on your phone and initiate the call from your desktop...then answer the gizmo call on your phone and enter the code (on your phone)...then turn on and adjust your gv settings
this is not a variant of UMA
lithdoc said:
I'm having issues linking my gizmo account with GV account. My Gizmo will ring, but GV will not accept the verification code - it keeps saying "sorry, I didin't catch that." Has anyone experienced similar issues?
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I had to install the Gizmo5 client on my PC. Then when the Google voice verification call came in, there's a little down arrow at the top of the popup box. If you click that, you can open a text with "sound blasts" I think it was. There's a keyboard there, and if you click on the two numbers, GV will accept it.
Damn, seems like some of you guys are/were depending on this feature... It'd be nice, but I dont need it. Good luck to you all.
ogdobber said:
I was in the same boat, that is why I researched how to do this...now I am set. this is better than the tmobile app because it doesn't use your minutes
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currently, i don't have a sip account. doesn't this still cost extra money to make happen? is there a cost per minute?
IDtheTarget said:
I had to install the Gizmo5 client on my PC. Then when the Google voice verification call came in, there's a little down arrow at the top of the popup box. If you click that, you can open a text with "sound blasts" I think it was. There's a keyboard there, and if you click on the two numbers, GV will accept it.
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Well, I figured out what the issue actually was... I signed up for Gizmo some 5 years ago, but have not really used it. Anyway, they gave out 2 numbers - one SIP with 747 are code, the other with 775 (I don't know whether they still give those away). I had initially put in the 775, and while it would ring, it would not recognize my inputs. Once I changed it to 747, it all worked like a charm.
Hm, okay, so something is still not working. I followed the directions as listed in the first posting, but I still have no sucess making calls. It just says registered callback, waiting for google to call back, and it goes nowhere from there...
UPDATE: anyway, it seems to work when my gizmo app is open on the computer, but that's kinda useless, since I want to use the phone as the calling device. Any thoughts?
b84cops said:
currently, i don't have a sip account. doesn't this still cost extra money to make happen? is there a cost per minute?
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see OP
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ogdobber said:
.... but you can also make unlimited free wifi calls with it using one extra step
....gizmo5 was just recently purchased by google and is not accepting new accounts, but you can buy a "unused" one on ebay for $8 give or take)
...thats it, add money to your gizmo account and make wifi calls within the US for 1c a minute (or international for sightly more)
Thats it wifi calling! free if you want (my experience is the call quality is a little better when you are paying a penny a minute (btw thats $10 for 1000 mins...beat that cell provider!)
This is pure VoIP solution. It does not use any voice minutes. It does not incur any charges for incoming calls either. If you are on WiFi, this is a completely free solution.
for outging calls you will incur a small per minute VoIP charge from Gizmo. It costs a fraction of what most cell plans charge.
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does this change your phone number? i could never get this setup on the nexus 1, but is the addition of sip calling with gingerbread what makes this work?
lithdoc said:
Well, I figured out what the issue actually was... I signed up for Gizmo some 5 years ago, but have not really used it. Anyway, they gave out 2 numbers - one SIP with 747 are code, the other with 775 (I don't know whether they still give those away). I had initially put in the 775, and while it would ring, it would not recognize my inputs. Once I changed it to 747, it all worked like a charm.
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You are lucky, gizmo stopped the 775 numbers a long time ago. It was supposed to be a back door to make free calls or have free incoming calls to your gizmo account. You have a valuable gizmo account
Does anyone know if this is a feature of gingerbread and will be available for other gingerbread phones?
Thanks.
robot_agenda said:
does this change your phone number? i could never get this setup on the nexus 1, but is the addition of sip calling with gingerbread what makes this work?
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if you go (call) through your google voice then that shows up...if you you use straight up gizmo then that will show...All of my numbers forward to my google voice so it doesn't matter what number people call, my phone will still ring
This is my first article, but I thought I might share my experience achieving this on Rogers.
The main subject of this article covers my experience in getting Visual Voice Mail (VVM) working on the SGS2 with Rogers. This may also be easily applicable under any Android device with another carrier.
I've managed to come up with this solution after reading a couple of different websites that didn't specifically explain the whole process. So the idea here is to make it easier for Canadian residents to get their hands on VVM without needing an iphone or relying on their carrier for their Voicemail needs.
There are some costs involved, but these seem minimal (from my perspective) and quite worth it.
Disclaimer: This method worked for me on Rogers with SGS2 by taking the steps explained here. I take no responsibility if something breaks, spontaneously catches fire or if your neighbor kills your dog. In other words, do it at your own risk.
Requirements:
SGS2
Google Voice Account (GV)
Google Voice App installed
Credit Card
Make sure you back up your settings and information before proceeding.
Step 1 - Setting up Google voice.
This article assumes that you currently have a working google voice account.
If you don't, a quick google search on the subject will explain to you the process for getting a GV account in Canada.
The main setting that needs to be addressed is enabling "Do Not Disturb" permanently under "Calls" in settings.
The main drawback is that if you wish to use GV as your voicemail provider, you will need to sacrifice it's calling receiving feature, as it will direct all calls directly to voice mail under this mode.
Additionally, setting up a message for whoever might be calling is also not a bad idea. But you can live with the default message provided by google by default
Step 2 - Getting a forwarding Number
This step involves getting a local or toll free number that you will use as a forwarder for your busy/unanswered/unreachable calls.
Obviously, you'd be incurring long distance charges if you were to get your voicemail calling the US every time somebody leaves a message... Not ideal wallet wise.
I went with http://www.voip.ms, they offer either local numbers or toll free numbers that you can use as a forwarding platform for your GV number.
First off, you need to sign up, fairly straight forward process.
Once you have activated your account, you will need to add some money to your account, the minimum credit that you can buy is $25. This is done under "Finances/Add Funds".
Next, you will need to set up your forwarding number. This is done in "DID Numbers/Call Forwarding". You just click "Add Forwarding", enter the GV phone number and save.
With these credits and the forwarding set up, you'll be able to add a DID Number to your account for a monthly fee (which will be charged on the credit balance). This is done through "DID Numbers/Order DID(s)".
Multiple options are presented to you, two of which would be interesting in this case:
Local Numbers/Canada
Toll Free Numbers/Canada+United States
I chose to go with the Toll Free, for a $1.49 monthly fee + $0.032 (3.2cents) every 6 seconds. That's like $25 tops for a year (if you have people overkilling your voicemail).
They offer a selection of numbers to choose from, pick the one you like the most.
Under "DID POP", choose the closest city to your current location.
Under "Routing", select Forwarding, which should have the GV number you set up earlier
Then just click on the "Click Here to confirm your order".
At this point your forwarding is set up. You may give it a try by calling the number that was provided to you and see if it routes to your GV.
Step 3 - Setting up your phone.
There are a couple of options here. If you don't currently have voicemail with your carrier, you may skip the next paragraph. If you are like me and did have voicemail service enable, read on.
I found out the hard way with Rogers that when you have voicemail service, they block the forwarding on the phone; either you forward all calls, or you don't forward at all. To remedy this, I just called sales and after explaining the situation (me wanting to use a different voicemail system that required forwarding to be enabled but not wanting to loose any of my current features in the plan - I have an iPhone value pack) they managed to disable the voicemail which allowed me to proceed with the phone setup.
Now you can set up forwarding by going to "Settings/Call/Call Forwarding/Voice Call".
In this screen, 4 options will be available:
Always Forward
Forward when busy *
Forward when unanswered *
Forward when unreachable *
You need to set up the last 3 (the ones with the * on the previous list) with the phone number that you obtained from voip.ms.
Also ensure that GV is set up on your phone and that you have activated the voicemail features on it (it will give you an error message saying that it cannot set up properly, just ignore it).
At this point, you should be able to call your cel, reject the call and direct the caller to GV for your visual voicemail needs. You will then receive the messages in your GV inbox, visually!
This worked for me and I am rather happy with the result. Hope this helps.
Let me know if you have any questions.
References:
http://adrielservice.com/blog/?p=394
Update:
I found out that carriers mask your outgoing number along with any caller ID information when calling toll free numbers. This was preventing GV from telling me what phone number the message was from as it was receiving the call from the Rogers masked generic number. This was solved by obtaining a local DID. Only disadvantage being that if you move around, the voicemail messages may become long distance calls.
Other than that, my experience with GV is great, love the visual voicemail on the Android.
Update: I've been using this method for the last 4 months and it has been working wonderfully, provided you have data access.
I also found out that Rogers was charging me for each forwarding call; I signed up for a $3 forwarding plan which offers unlimited forwarding, not including the used minutes.