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Opera 8.6, how's it working for you?

I'm wondering what the experience has been for people using Opera 8.6. I installed the free beta version months ago, which is working, and I'm wondering if it is worth it to buy the latest retail version.
Any Opera users care to comment on their experience?

Generally I find this a good browser but there a few problems which I must mention:-
1) One cannot configure it to store its Cache to SD card. There are ways around this but nothing out of the box.
2) For large web pages with graphics and annimations vertical scrolling becomes really painful as the page does not scroll smoothly with the vertical bar. This gets really really annoying at times.
3) There is a slight lag between pressing of a link and the browser responding. You tend to press the link repeatedly thinking the browser has not responded and then it hangs. However this is something you soon get used to so not that much of a problem.
4) Quite often it does not load the page fully and gets stuck towards the last bits of the page. This is more so for pages with annimations. The progress bar gets stuck when the page has almost been downloaded and only a small percent is left. You then have to refresh the page and usually the 2nd attempt gets you through the full page.
4) The worst problem for me which has really limited its use is that once you have used this it stops some other programs to start and you have to soft-reset. Typical examples are Netfront, Planmaker and Textmaker. After using Opera and having killed it these programs will often not start without a soft-reset.
As I said at the start it is still a good browser and so I am not mentioning the good things but these are just the glitches which seriously mar the user experience of an otherwise good product. In fact though I have a registered version I find myself using it less and less and prefering Netfront over it simply of some of the annoying bugs I mention.
Regards

I agree with smrz completely, and have suffered from the issues outlined, but I'd like to add:
- Opera 8.6 can't handle some pages very well (I'm thinking of the Yahoo pages where you need to log in). It just doesn't render them in any sort of useable fashion.
Having said this, I still use it as my main browser, and find that in combination with PIE, then I can do pretty much everything I want on the web.
Cheers,
Steve.

are there any differences between the beta version and the retail version?

1) One cannot configure it to store its Cache to SD card. There are ways around this but nothing out of the box.
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Here a post I wrote on moving cache of Opera on SD card...
http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&cat=101&id=5514
Open opera.ini file, go to [User Prefs]. At the end of that paragraph, write that ligne
Cache Directory4=\Storage Card\x with x the folder you choosed for cache on your SD.
For french roms, Storage Card must be replaced by Carte de Stockage
Opera is not perfect, but is largely better than other mobile browers...

Thanks for the input. I'm not sure I will pay for the retail version at this point.
Re: the difference between beta version and latest retail version, I'm sure there are many and would depend on the beta version. Main one that comes to mind is that I understand the retail version has a tabbed browser interface while my old beta version does not.
I wonder if Opera mobile will ever support Java?

opera 8.5/8.6 does not support java & javascript?
what about vbscript?

Where do we copy the opera.dll
I am running a trial version. Have the cracked opera.dll file. Where do I copy this to in order to prevent the 30 days to run up?

;1040241 said:
I am running a trial version. Have the cracked opera.dll file. Where do I copy this to in order to prevent the 30 days to run up?
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Here's an idea: how about *paying* for it? I mean, it's only $24 or about 2% the RRP of an HTC Universal. Don't try to kid yourself that circumventing anti-piracy measures is anything other than stealing. If you use a cracked copy, you are a theif.

I agree I always buy software. I have 50+ apps on my IIs and all are paid for you, shouldn't try and steal money from hard working developers who are trying to make a living.

I am finding Opera 8.60 retail to be AWESOME!
In fact, I ditched the JasJar some months ago and have been using a JAM for some time. I only bought a new JJ cos of Opera on VGA. It's rendering most pages such as my online banking (which PIE cocked up completely), it zooms perfectly, and it's just amazing! If WM5 had come out with a decent broser on day one it would have driven operator ARPU's and internet usage. Now I have google with me wherever I go. I kind of had it on my JAM, but not really with that crappy low res screen.
This is a no brainer app and worth every cent!

Piracy
Nice thinking and have no objection. But if you got something for the first time you simply dont go about splashing money around. It is only fare that I want to make use of it, see & decide. If you check 8.6 is not the latest version it is an old version. By paying I would now be getting v9 (see I checked it and am planning to) but need to see if it is what I need / want.
Stereotyping aint really good. Peace anyway....
PS: Besides doing this kind of stuff is always the best way of learning the logic, structure of how a device works. And that is my main interest in these stuff. Not getting all for free. Thanks for your comments anyway...

bbaytu said:
Nice thinking and have no objection. But if you got something for the first time you simply dont go about splashing money around. It is only fare that I want to make use of it, see & decide. If you check 8.6 is not the latest version it is an old version. By paying I would now be getting v9 (see I checked it and am planning to) but need to see if it is what I need / want.
Stereotyping aint really good. Peace anyway....
PS: Besides doing this kind of stuff is always the best way of learning the logic, structure of how a device works. And that is my main interest in these stuff. Not getting all for free. Thanks for your comments anyway...
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yust for info...8.6(with the bug correction version 8.6u1) is the last and the only opera for ppc version ever done. Version 9 is for PC...if I'm wrong excuse me and tell me were you find the ver 9 for ppc...
Regards
Massimo

bbaytu said:
Nice thinking and have no objection. But if you got something for the first time you simply dont go about splashing money around.
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I'm using Opera on the trial. 30 days is plenty of time to make your mind up. If you don't really use it enough to make up your mind in that time, then don't buy it. If you do, buy it. $24 really is next to nothing for a product. That wouldn't a decent sandwich, cake and a cup of tea!
It is only fare that I want to make use of it, see & decide. If you check 8.6 is not the latest version it is an old version. By paying I would now be getting v9 (see I checked it and am planning to) but need to see if it is what I need / want.
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They provide a trial for that purpose. If they didn't, I still wouldn't agree. Afterall, I can't try out a holiday before I buy it and if I don't like the terms, I can simple boycott the product.
Stereotyping aint really good. Peace anyway....
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I'd hardly call it stereotyping. Stereotyping is painting a group with a broad brush and, in doing so, encompassing more than rightfully fit the description. However, calling all pirates theives is not stereotyping as all piracy is theft.
PS: Besides doing this kind of stuff is always the best way of learning the logic, structure of how a device works. And that is my main interest in these stuff. Not getting all for free. Thanks for your comments anyway...
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I know I'm on a very high horse here, but I cannot and will not tolerate piracy. It *does* hurt people (developers, distributers, support staff, everyone in the chain and their families) and they only reason why it's not as widely regarded as wrong is because everyone knows they will more than likely get away with it. Steal Opera is no better than stealing a wallet or an item of jewellery or anything else. It's ALL theft.

I'm using an early beta that does not have the 30 day limit.
Am I stealing?
The reason I posted the question is because I am not averse to paying for a good finished product. It seems craigiecraig4 (if I have the name spelled right) would say that Opera 8.6 is a good finished product.
That is the type of opinion I was soliciting.

I think anyone who has a beta version of software on there device have in a way paid for it because they put there device on the line to test the product.

xda_guy said:
opera 8.5/8.6 does not support java & javascript?
what about vbscript?
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It does support JS but doesn't support Java.
ALL: Please DO read my web browser reviews. The vast majority of the questions asked in this thread have already been answered / explained in there.

bonisalive said:
Here a post I wrote on moving cache of Opera on SD card...
http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&cat=101&id=5514
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An English tutorial is at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=916&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Menneisyys said:
It does support JS but doesn't support Java.
ALL: Please DO read my web browser reviews. The vast majority of the questions asked in this thread have already been answered / explained in there.
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Dude - your articles are GREAT! Going thro many of your past posts now...keep it up!

[UK] TVCatchup.com let them know you want a WM application/webportal

Hi guy's
I've started a thread over at tvcatchup.com's forum to gather support for a windows mobile application or at least access to the tv streams that the iphone uses as they have a special portal that doesnt use flash.
Just wondered if it would be possible for you to show your interest in this thread too and bring tvcatchup.com to WM
Thanks

+1 ________________

Cant believe there arnt more people out there who want this working on WM!!, maybe its my fault for just making this post in the Leo section of the forum.
I've tried seting my user agent in Firefox to iphone 3.0 UA and managed to get the page to load where for bbc one it has this url
http://84.234.22.109:1935/iphone/iphone_bbcone.sdp/playlist.m3u8?stream=bbcone
which downloads a playlist, if you open the playlist in notpad you get this
#EXTM3U
#EXT-X-STREAM-INFROGRAM-ID=1,BANDWIDTH=100000
http://84.234.22.109:1935/iphone/ip...t.m3u8?wowzasessionid=431120102&stream=bbcone
But after that I have no idea what to do to make it stream on the phone

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But after that I have no idea what to do to make it stream on the phone
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It's the m3u8 file format that's the problem there. It's not something we can play on WM devices.
I've tried to sign up to the site so I can post words of encouragement and support on the thread, but it just keeps throwing an error, so i can't
Good luck with this - I'd love to see this on WM.

Surely the playlist just directs the iphone to some H.264 stream, Im sure something like coreplayer would be able to play that? but as you say the playlist doesnt open.
I tried renaming the .m3u8 to just .m3u (as that's what coreplayer recognises) but no luck after that,
Can I ask a mod to move this to a more appropriate section to get more exposure.
Thanks

made a post on tvcatchup thread. lets wait and see if they show any interest.

Well it looks like there's been a response from them
Their are 12 versions of Windows Mobile operateing system.
Id hate to guess how many different phones are useing the variaty of Os's.
Their are massive compatibility issues within each and every OS version and Mobile Phone Type.
iPhone was chosen as our first step onto the mobile market as their is ONE operateing system and specifications between each iPhone are the same. Its one of the most sold new phones on the market and its keep selling. It was highly feasible for an iphone application.
Windows Mobile on the other hand would be very complex. It would cost TVCatchup to develop such application, and we have not yet finished the iPhone which is in Beta.
One step at a time im afraid, we can not jump into every handset from day one.
If theirs a skilled windows mobile developer reading this that uses TVCatchup, we do have an API.
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No idea where they got the 12 versions of WM from but its the last sentance that perked up my ears, They have an API for a budding xda developer to use!!!

DMAND said:
Well it looks like there's been a response from them
No idea where they got the 12 versions of WM from but its the last sentance that perked up my ears, They have an API for a budding xda developer to use!!!
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Yep... i read that and replied also (im ukbreakbeat on there)
Come on XDA Devs... you know you want to get on this!

Cheers mate, I've contacted a certain dev on here with a well know tv app, hopefully they give him the goodies

Anyone know about any progress? Is FryWalker working on it?

He let me know he had been in contact with their lead developer, and that they were very helpful, I belive he's working on it

I thought I'd bump this as Fry seems to be getting the cold shoulder from the tvcatchup guys apparently, I thought anyone interested in the development would like to know and of course let them know that us WM owners still want an app developed!

Surely all that would be needed is a codec for core player to allow it to play the m3u8 playlist??
I have done a bit of sleuthing and there is a program called pocket player that claims to be able to play m3u8 files but I've had no luck with this so far.

I just use Skyfire to watch.. and it works fine. Looks perfect especially in landscape mode.

Yeah Skyfire works but it's frame rate is low

Hi,
I'm using skyfire on t-mobile UK and get an error on the stream stating it is non-UK - has anyone else seen this and does anyone know a workaround ?
Ta,
Inclement

inclement_weather said:
Hi,
I'm using skyfire on t-mobile and get an error on the stream stating it is non-UK - has anyone else seen this and does anyone know a workaround ?
Ta,
Inclement
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If you check on the TV catchup forums, this is because you downloaded the US version of the software and not the UK version.

DMAND said:
I thought I'd bump this as Fry seems to be getting the cold shoulder from the tvcatchup guys apparently, I thought anyone interested in the development would like to know and of course let them know that us WM owners still want an app developed!
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I thought they were all on board for Fry to develop his MyPlayer app to include TV Catchup streams?

SteveI said:
If you check on the TV catchup forums, this is because you downloaded the US version of the software and not the UK version.
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Hi - thanks for the tip - I checked around and had to change my DNS settings to a UK server then reinstall Skyfire so it'd pick up a UK farm. Done that and it connects fine !
Only thing (there's always something) is now that the picture is great but there's no audio - any ideas why no sound is coming through and if there's something I need to change ? I checked the IP settings and there's no compression set - not sure what else to check.
Thanks for any help,
Inclement

Karlos G said:
Yeah Skyfire works but it's frame rate is low
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Agree. Installed it last night, and it works albeit a bit choppy. I only tried it due to a dedicated iphone freak at work going on about tvcatchup, and that the HD2 can't do it. Can't wait to see him later

HTC Peep

since the new twitter policy rolled out yesterday, does anyone if there will be an update for Peep?

Per a tweet from HTC themselves last night, Twitter is actually working on an update for the HTCPeep app and several other mobile clients, that is supposed to fix the issues follwing the API change the other day.

MoTweets is currently the only app that works with the new authentication (that i'm aware of). 3-4 bux on windows marketplace.

jimbonics said:
MoTweets is currently the only app that works with the new authentication (that i'm aware of). 3-4 bux on windows marketplace.
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Or you can download the free ad-supported cab here. Yes, it has ads but their not all over the place. I don't even notice them.
http://www.panoramicsoft.com/mobileapps/motweets/moTweets.php

OR you can go here http://hd2apps.blogspot.com/2010/03/htc-hd2-apps-panoramic-motweets-v160.html#more

sirphunkee said:
Per a tweet from HTC themselves last night, Twitter is actually working on an update for the HTCPeep app and several other mobile clients, that is supposed to fix the issues follwing the API change the other day.
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I really dont see how Twitter is working on this, unless HTC shipped them the source code to Peep and is making them rewrite it? yeah right!
There's really nothing that Twitter has to do from their end, HTC needs to rewrite the authentication portion of Peep. The only possible thing Twitter could do is reenable Basic Auth, which im sure they will not do, atleast not on a permanent basis. If Twitter was feeling kind they could reenable Basic Auth for another week or 2, give the developers of all those twitter clients that window to get their clients supporting OAuth, then cut off Basic Auth again.
This whole problem is HTC's fault, Twitter notified developers MONTHS ago that this change was going to be taking place. In fact the change was originally supposed to happen back in June or July and was pushed back to give developers more time to get their clients updated

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I really dont see how Twitter is working on this, unless HTC shipped them the source code to Peep and is making them rewrite it? yeah right!
There's really nothing that Twitter has to do from their end, HTC needs to rewrite the authentication portion of Peep. The only possible thing Twitter could do is reenable Basic Auth, which im sure they will not do, atleast not on a permanent basis. If Twitter was feeling kind they could reenable Basic Auth for another week or 2, give the developers of all those twitter clients that window to get their clients supporting OAuth, then cut off Basic Auth again.
This whole problem is HTC's fault, Twitter notified developers MONTHS ago that this change was going to be taking place. In fact the change was originally supposed to happen back in June or July and was pushed back to give developers more time to get their clients updated
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I would agree, but from the sound of the message, they're doing it to re-enable more mobile clients than just HTC's, so maybe there'll be a basic auth "bridge" for just mobile clients..? I don't know any more details than that, but HTC did firmly put the issue in Twitter's lap with that announcement

Panoramic Motweets FTW!

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Panoramic Motweets FTW!
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+1 LOL yes, I do agree that motweets is still the best WM twitter client available (especially after yesterday!). However, if TweetDeck would ever come out with a WM client, I have a feeling that would be even better

thanks for the replies, fellas.

sirphunkee said:
+1 LOL yes, I do agree that motweets is still the best WM twitter client available (especially after yesterday!). However, if TweetDeck would ever come out with a WM client, I have a feeling that would be even better
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Suspiciously my Motweets won't retrieve my timeline today and I think the last time I used the program was Monday and it worked fine. Ha. Did I speak too soon?

crisisinthecity said:
Suspiciously my Motweets won't retrieve my timeline today and I think the last time I used the program was Monday and it worked fine. Ha. Did I speak too soon?
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yeah I'm experiencing the same with it this morning, although it did work fine as recently as yesterday evening for me...so I assumed they had already made the necessary changes, maybe not

sirphunkee said:
yeah I'm experiencing the same with it this morning, although it did work fine as recently as yesterday evening for me...so I assumed they had already made the necessary changes, maybe not
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It's working fine now. Maybe something was up earlier with twitter and mobile clients? Who knows. Back on track.
Is yours cool now?

crisisinthecity said:
It's working fine now. Maybe something was up earlier with twitter and mobile clients? Who knows. Back on track.
Is yours cool now?
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yup, seems to be all good now! crisis, um, averted lol
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I dunno but my peep is not working at all. It is being rejected every time.

sirphunkee said:
+1 LOL yes, I do agree that motweets is still the best WM twitter client available (especially after yesterday!). However, if TweetDeck would ever come out with a WM client, I have a feeling that would be even better
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+1
I'm all about some TweetDeck. Adobe is working on a port of "Air" for Android, which is really promising for TweetDeck in the future. However, I have a hard time believing that Adobe would work too hard on Windows Mobile, especially since Windows Phone 7 has just been RTM'd.
On the bright side, I'm digging me some Motweets. I really like the whole pic preview thingy, even TweetDeck isn't doing that yet! I still miss being able to tweet from a tab though. HTC is not going to waste time working on HTC Peep, especially when they also have Windows Phone releases on the way.
I feel like I am holding a sparkling, beautiful machine that was seriously outdated the day I bought it. Twitter's switch to OAuth is just another sign that Windows Mobile and the associated apps are on a fast track to the great recycle bin in the sky.
Oh, and if any of you are interested, there is a way to get in on the Adobe Air Android Pre-release program right now. Testing phase only, but it's gonna be awesome

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+1 LOL yes, I do agree that motweets is still the best WM twitter client available (especially after yesterday!). However, if TweetDeck would ever come out with a WM client, I have a feeling that would be even better
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one thing that REALLY bugs me about motweets, for selecting a photo to upload it uses the windows mobile thumbnail view which takes FOREVER to load and thumbnail pics. the thumbnail view used throughout sense is much much faster!
I tend to upload a lot of photos to twitpic/twitter and it annoys the hell out of me

htc peep does not work we can do or any solution for this problem

Look, ChromeOS running on the Transformer.

Look.
http://f.cl.ly/items/043W2g391H0j2Z3m2n0N/IMG_7008.JPG
It is legit and will probably be finished in not too long. (I'm not the dev, hexxeh is.)
Going to be awesome, apparently everything is working atm, except some HW acceleration stuff, due to chromium having some weird bugs.
Currently booting from a USB Stick via the Dual Boot android method posted by lilsteve (I think this is how he did it not 100% sure) So dual boot with Android should be very, very possible.

I want this...
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TheDeadCpu said:
Look.
http://f.cl.ly/items/043W2g391H0j2Z3m2n0N/IMG_7008.JPG
It is legit and will probably be finished in not too long. (I'm not the dev, hexxeh is.)
Going to be awesome, apparently everything is working atm, except some HW acceleration stuff, due to chromium having some weird bugs.
Currently booting from a USB Stick via the Dual Boot android method posted by lilsteve (I think this is how he did it not 100% sure) So dual boot with Android should be very, very possible.
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Thanks TDC. This is great.

Read somewhere ChromeOS is highly reliant on the cloud, hence not much can be done without an active internet connection.

klau1 said:
Read somewhere ChromeOS is highly reliant on the cloud, hence not much can be done without an active internet connection.
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True .

Wow...
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klau1 said:
Read somewhere ChromeOS is highly reliant on the cloud, hence not much can be done without an active internet connection.
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So how often would you open Chrome on your TF without an active internet connection?

This is awesome. Thank for the news, can't wait.

Oh yes!!!

Xxq TZ pxX said:
So how often would you open Chrome on your TF without an active internet connection?
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How often do you use post without trying to seem like a smart ass?
How often do you use an OS that only works with an Internet connection?

how about a video of it running?

klau1 said:
How often do you use post without trying to seem like a smart ass?
How often do you use an OS that only works with an Internet connection?
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It will work with dual boot with android...
Ellerbestyle said:
how about a video of it running?
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Will get that when it's publicly available.

IMO I don't see the point of running ChromeOS on an Android device, ChromeOS is essentially just a web browser that runs web apps where as you can do all sorts of things with your Android device.

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IMO I don't see the point of running ChromeOS on an Android device, ChromeOS is essentially just a web browser that runs web apps where as you can do all sorts of things with your Android device.
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It's cause it's awesome and chrome os would probably be more web-compliant and you would probably have more luck runing websites that wouldn't normally work on android like, say, a java site, or even hulu

But lets face it, browsing in android is far from perfect, and Linux isnt completely working yet , so this is a great option. If you dont care about it, then simply ignore this post.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

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how about a video of it running?
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This.
The key to this being widely accepted is how well it performs, such as boot time and loading speed of HTML5 and Flash web pages. Chromebooks are designed to be instant-on devices, and if it still takes a good 45 seconds to boot up on a Transformer, then there's no point to running it over Android.

Seems more like a Trojan Horse from Google, for when they start issuing subscription fees to use their cloud base services.
Then you'll have to pay them because you've outsourced your PC for a LCD.
Soon enough, you will actually own NOTHING other than the LCD, with everything else being the property of the Cloud provider.
Do you want to become an constant source of income for Google or any company for that matter?

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Seems more like a Trojan Horse from Google, for when they start issuing subscription fees to use their cloud base services.
Then you'll have to pay them because you've outsourced your PC for a LCD.
Soon enough, you will actually own NOTHING other than the LCD, with everything else being the property of the Cloud provider.
Do you want to become an constant source of income for Google or any company for that matter?
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Umm...too many things to say, wont bother.
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klau1 said:
How often do you use post without trying to seem like a smart ass?
How often do you use an OS that only works with an Internet connection?
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I have a cr48, i love it.
Also this would be great for a 3g transformer.
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klau1 said:
Seems more like a Trojan Horse from Google, for when they start issuing subscription fees to use their cloud base services.
Then you'll have to pay them because you've outsourced your PC for a LCD.
Soon enough, you will actually own NOTHING other than the LCD, with everything else being the property of the Cloud provider.
Do you want to become an constant source of income for Google or any company for that matter?
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That's just a stupid reason to not use cloud service. Whoever doesn't backup locally is an idiot. People worried about losing files on Google Music/Doc when they start charging doesn't make any sense. Are you going to stop using gmail as well and host your own email server? There are always alternatives on internet.
People have been talking about charging fees for gmail, youtube, facebook...but it never happened.
Guess what, technology evolves. The cost of storage and server will drop lower and lower.

Chrome beta doesn't play flash??

Guys i've just upgraded to ICS and installed the Chrome browser.. really love it, but tried to go to a site to watch some anime and it says there's no pluggin.. Is there anyway around this??
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Flash is not officially supported. HTML5 is.
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It does not support flash yet they are working with adobe

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It does not support flash yet they are working with adobe
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Actually they are not.. adobe will no longer make a plugging for any new mobile devices.....
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/7...ported-chrome-android-browser-android-browser

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Actually they are not.. adobe will no longer make a plugging for any new mobile devices.....
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/7...ported-chrome-android-browser-android-browser
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oho ok last i heard was that they were sorry about that

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oho ok last i heard was that they were sorry about that
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No sorrys needed. adobe just sux. Lol

The problem is not that flash is not supported in browser, it is that web site developers are still using it to develop websites !!!

mcbyte_it you are too right. Flash is slowwwwwww

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The problem is not that flash is not supported in browser, it is that web site developers are still using it to develop websites !!!
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I preface this with, i dont code flash, BUT how is this web developers issues when adobe is claiming flash is alive and well for desktops? These days companies cant afford to provide 2 completely different web sites for desktop and mobile and on the desktop there are just too many things that can be done with flash that cant be done in html 5 and we wont even talk about the effort to convert even if they wanted too. This is really a web fragmentation issue that needs to be adressed soon.
I'll also add that not being able to set useragent in chrome or even reliably in stock browser is driving me nuts. I hate mobile sites on my tab.

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I preface this with, i dont code flash, BUT how is this web developers issues when adobe is claiming flash is alive and well for desktops? These days companies cant afford to provide 2 completely different web sites for desktop and mobile and on the desktop there are just too many things that can be done with flash that cant be done in html 5 and we wont even talk about the effort to convert even if they wanted too. This is really a web fragmentation issue that needs to be adressed soon.
I'll also add that not being able to set useragent in chrome or even reliably in stock browser is driving me nuts. I hate mobile sites on my tab.
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word to this.
i wish people would actually know what the hell they are talking about before they come out with stuff like ' adobe are crap, flash is crap, yadd yadda yadda'.. if these people had ever built a decent working website they would know that HTML5 is not the answer to everything and it is still very limited when compared to Flash.. thats just how it is, its no one fault.
the question we should be asking is how can dolphin implement flash fine and chrome/google cant/wont/dont?
flash works fine on chrome desktop, i just dont think they have activated yet on chrome beta.

bob dylan said:
word to this.
i wish people would actually know what the hell they are talking about before they come out with stuff like ' adobe are crap, flash is crap, yadd yadda yadda'.. if these people had ever built a decent working website they would know that HTML5 is not the answer to everything and it is still very limited when compared to Flash.. thats just how it is, its no one fault.
the question we should be asking is how can dolphin implement flash fine and chrome/google cant/wont/dont?
flash works fine on chrome desktop, i just dont think they have activated yet on chrome beta.
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Read the link above...its adobe; not anyone else that isn't supporting it.......its like some of you just talk and talk to read or hear your own voices........

The fifth website i went to using chrome needed flash... and apple reckons flash is not required lol
This was why i sold my iphone years ago.
Not using chrome anymore...

tweaked said:
Read the link above...its adobe; not anyone else that isn't supporting it.......its like some of you just talk and talk to read or hear your own voices........
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absolute rubbish- Flash works fine on Dolphin and Stock browser on ICS.
adobe still support it, they just wont be updating it for mobile devices, BIG DIFFERENCE.
i just love the way that 1 browser doesnt have flash enabled and everyone goes up in arms that adobe are crap etc... its complete tosh. other browser work fine with flash, use them and stop whingeing.

Strange, I have was checking The Verge with chrome for Android and the embedded YouTube video player works. Also the YouTube website, maybe chrome knows that YouTube is a video format and embeds a special player (HTML5).
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bob dylan said:
absolute rubbish- Flash works fine on Dolphin and Stock browser on ICS.
adobe still support it, they just wont be updating it for mobile devices, BIG DIFFERENCE.
i just love the way that 1 browser doesnt have flash enabled and everyone goes up in arms that adobe are crap etc... its complete tosh. other browser work fine with flash, use them and stop whingeing.
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Who is up in arms? Flash is old outdated and a resource hog. I'm glad they are making themselves obsolete.. and their software is bloated garbage. And support and update ain't much of a difference. No future browsers will have flash...unless you want to use old software in the coming years...
No where did I whine about it... talk to yourself about whining....

bob dylan said:
word to this.
i wish people would actually know what the hell they are talking about before they come out with stuff like ' adobe are crap, flash is crap, yadd yadda yadda'.. if these people had ever built a decent working website they would know that HTML5 is not the answer to everything and it is still very limited when compared to Flash.. thats just how it is, its no one fault.
the question we should be asking is how can dolphin implement flash fine and chrome/google cant/wont/dont?
flash works fine on chrome desktop, i just dont think they have activated yet on chrome beta.
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actually dolphin browser is using the same engine as the stock browser - that's why you get flash on dolphin too since you get it on the stock browser. and if i'm not mistaken dolphin browser is an extension of the stock browser, so code wise everything it should be almost the same except the UI and other additional features that makes dolphin unique.
Chrome is a totally diff browser - so flash needs to be supported in it I suppose in order to view flash sites in chrome for android.

thank you everyone for your response.
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