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Could it be....yup, HD3 on the horizon!

schweet !
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/01/htc-hd3-to-be-named-hd7-in-honor-of-windows-phone-7-launch-octo/

Saw this earlier today. Now just throw a keyboard on it & i'm sold. I'll get it w/o the keyboard, but would prefer it.

I won't get a WP7 phone until it has MicroSDHC expansion, cut and paste and everything else they are too stupid to include in a first release.

Paten said:
I won't get a WP7 phone until it has MicroSDHC expansion, cut and paste and everything else they are too stupid to include in a first release.
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guess msdhc slot is not a priority for most people, even on xda-developers.....
look at how many people are set with WP7

Paten said:
I won't get a WP7 phone until it has MicroSDHC expansion, cut and paste and everything else they are too stupid to include in a first release.
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M$ has used this sort of stupidity very well in its history to become the megacorporation they are. It's called planned obsolesence. Why give it to you free now, when they can charge you for it later?

Im really having a feeling that WP7 is going to drive the small yet strong community of WinMo users away from MS. Theyre pretty much driving away their enthusit community who wants something they can mod and hack over to android. Platform lock down is a reason i don't go apple, and MS doing the same now is going to drive me away.
We'll see to what extent WP7 is locked down or just plan sucks, but especially for me something like no SD card sucks big time, unless these phones are going to ship with a MIN of 32GB on board. however lack of a SD card slot will probably make the ability to boot android on the phones very difficult if not impossible, and definitely no ability to essentially dual boot like we can now.
I know im personally eying a switch over to android, If not running android on my HD2 i might get a TMO G2.

knowing M$, I don't think I want position myself into the front row to be a test subject lol.. i'd rather wait for a possible cooked rom with windows 7 for the HD2, the HD2 is the only phone i've ever owned that I did not lose interest and it's been like what, almost a year.. I think our snap dragon hasn't exactly been optimized with even today's software yet, the 1GHZ is hungry for more still! lol..
Just IMHO..

The way they've got us over the barrel on this one is that it's a whole new OS and won't support legacy apps. So development on our platform will die, and in fact has already begun. That's the reason we can't find a kindle app for our phones. Same with Borders' ebook reader. There's no money in beating a dead horse. It's the apps that are driving the industry, and we aren't going to get any new ones.

Already stable enough for daily use?

Hi everyone!
I maybe want to get rid of my G1 with Biffmod 2.1 (and RAM Hack) for something more up to date.
Please let me hear your honest opinion:
Is a HD2 with WP7 (and Android in Dual Boot) already stable and good enough for daily use? Everything running (even Xbox Live and Games)?
I don´t want to spend 500 Euros or more on a new device. There are separate other things that i would know to do with that amount.
Thanks!

I am using my HD2 for approximately 1 month with android, after wp7 came out, i wasn't sure if it's a operating system that you really wan't to use, because android is open source, which is a big plus, but after testing it only 10 minutes, i fell in love with this os. It's simple and that's the thing that makes wp7 so unique. and if has nearly all these functions, that android also has. i would say for ~200€ or less a used HD2 with WP7 is more than a fair price... It's the deal of the decade!
The only thing you have to remember is, that you better buy an expensive class4 or better sdcard, because the sdcard is used with the internal memory as a raid system, and if you use compute-intensive applications you will recognize how a cheap sdcard slows the system down. But that's all
I would say start your new life with WP7

Silberpfeil3110 said:
I am using my HD2 for approximately 1 month with android, after wp7 came out, i wasn't sure if it's a operating system that you really wan't to use, because android is open source, which is a big plus, but after testing it only 10 minutes, i fell in love with this os. It's simple and that's the thing that makes wp7 so unique. and if has nearly all these functions, that android also has. i would say for ~200€ or less a used HD2 with WP7 is more than a fair price... It's the deal of the decade!
The only thing you have to remember is, that you better buy an expensive class4 or better sdcard, because the sdcard is used with the internal memory as a raid system, and if you use compute-intensive applications you will recognize how a cheap sdcard slows the system down. But that's all
I would say start your new life with WP7
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Actually, it seems quality class 2 cards work better than class 4, 6, or 10 cards... especially sandisk class 2. The modifications that a lot of manufacturers do to get high write speeds on higher class cards sometimes cause the random access speed to slow, and random access speed is whats important for wp7 to run smooth. I used a class 4 kingston and I was getting lags when scrolling and bad battery life... when I switch to sandisk class 2, smooth as butter and much better battery. Sandisk class 2 seems to be the best choice right now. Not saying other cards won't work, but looking through the forums, sandisk c2 seen to be consistently successful with everyone.

I would say..."most definitely able to use as a daily OS!" I've been using it now for nearly 2 weeks and I love how buttery smooth it is on our HD2. Then again, our phones are a beast themselves with just the hardware specs. Android is great and user customization is almost limitless, but the interface in WP7 has a lot to like. It's simplicity at its best. And there are a lot of apps that are quite interesting and useful, and the gaming is second to none with the XBOX feature. Even the regular games are getting better with each day that passes. Needless to say that the app store seems to be growing at a fast rate from what I can tell. And did I mention that it runs silky smooth and quick on our phones.
So, if you're asking whether it's worth it...if your an HD2 owner, it sure as hell is. And unlke any other phone we can have our cake and eat it too. Android and HD2 can both be on the phone now. So, you can literally switch OS's whenever you feel like it...and both run awesome on our phones.
But after trying WP7 and finally unlocking all features. I don't think I'm going to run Android anytime soon.

IMO the classy design of the HD2 is perfectly bonded with the classy modern design of the Metro UI on WP7, too lazy to go back to android now, though the battery is a tad disappointing and the volume needs to be fixed.

zarathustrax said:
Actually, it seems quality class 2 cards work better than class 4, 6, or 10 cards... especially sandisk class 2. The modifications that a lot of manufacturers do to get high write speeds on higher class cards sometimes cause the random access speed to slow, and random access speed is whats important for wp7 to run smooth. I used a class 4 kingston and I was getting lags when scrolling and bad battery life... when I switch to sandisk class 2, smooth as butter and much better battery. Sandisk class 2 seems to be the best choice right now. Not saying other cards won't work, but looking through the forums, sandisk c2 seen to be consistently successful with everyone.
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I totally agree with your statements, zarathustrax. Just like you i was using a Kingston class 4, and while wp7 was ok to use, market was slow, shutting down took a while etc. Since i switched to class 2 sandisk, total difference! Still testing battery life though. But this would be a great sd card to use with wp7.

sotong said:
I totally agree with your statements, zarathustrax. Just like you i was using a Kingston class 4, and while wp7 was ok to use, market was slow, shutting down took a while etc. Since i switched to class 2 sandisk, total difference! Still testing battery life though. But this would be a great sd card to use with wp7.
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i used the sandisk c2 16gb card,, it was slow,, after then i changed to the transcend c6 8gb card, everything fine then.
I think card might not be the problem,,sometimes reinstall the wp7 could be a good idea before we claim xx card is incompatible to wp7 in hd2

wp7 in hd2 is stable now,, hope it last and survive in the coming update

Well, thank you guys for sharing your experiences! Now i definitely want a HD2
Today i´ll start looking at Ebay Germany for a mint used one. As the possibility to install everything you want on a HD2 is not so well known to the public, HD2s are still quite cheap to have at the moment
So this SD card might be alright?
http://www.amazon.de/SanDisk-microS...AJKI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296030373&sr=8-1

Careful
WP7 on the HD2, a few things to think about...
1) Will DFT continue to update the build
2) Camera has issues with HD2
3) Multi Touch is not as well supported on the HD2 as with HD7 or native WP7 devices
4) If number 1) is updated, then you would have to wait a while before any updates Microsoft introduce can be used on our HD2
The only reason buying an HD2 over an HD7 would be if you want a jack of all trades but not quiet a master of any one. The HD2 will never be a native Android HD or an native WP7, but a very good alternative to try both

THUDUK said:
Careful
WP7 on the HD2, a few things to think about...
1) Will DFT continue to update the build
2) Camera has issues with HD2
3) Multi Touch is not as well supported on the HD2 as with HD7 or native WP7 devices
4) If number 1) is updated, then you would have to wait a while before any updates Microsoft introduce can be used on our HD2
The only reason buying an HD2 over an HD7 would be if you want a jack of all trades but not quiet a master of any one. The HD2 will never be a native Android HD or an native WP7, but a very good alternative to try both
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Agreed... I wouldn't buy the hd2 just to run wp7 off of, just like I wouldn't buy it just to run android off of. The hd2 will never run wp7 as good as a native device... we don't even know if wp7 will work on our phones after Microsoft updates wp7. The hd2 doesn't have as many colors as wp7 devices and will never have more than 2 point multitouch, which will make some apps that use multitouch incompatible with our phones. If you want to run wp7, get a wp7 device. Only get the hd2 if you want a phone to tinker with, and can accept that the phone will always have issues and bugs running these OS's that weren't meant for it. The hd2 can run a lot of OS's, but the only one it will ever run 100% is wm65. If you're looking to run a specific os, get a native phone.
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Ryoukou said:
Is a HD2 with WP7 (and Android in Dual Boot) already stable and good enough for daily use? Everything running (even Xbox Live and Games)?
I don´t want to spend 500 Euros or more on a new device. There are separate other things that i would know to do with that amount.
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HAHA I am in same boat, ie a new phone OR upgrades to my gaming PC.
I want to stick with my HD2 dual booting WP7 and CM7 Gingerbread.
So far it works well, only had one issue where my live id was longer able to purchase apps from market. I have switched to a different live id. this is looking increasingly like an issue at MS' end though.

Sure a native WP7 device would be much better, but there is a price difference of at least 300 Euros. Is this difference really worth it? Can´t believe it...

Ryoukou said:
Sure a native WP7 device would be much better, but there is a price difference of at least 300 Euros. Is this difference really worth it? Can´t believe it...
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Well, if you go with the HD2, you run a chance of WP7 not being functional on the HD2 in the future once microsoft updates it... and we probably won't get updates right away, if we even get them at all... and when updates happen and the HD2 can't update, it's possible market and live services may not work anymore. If you want it only for WP7, I would definitely say a few hundred dollars would be worth it. You wouldn't want to spend a couple hundred dollars on the HD2 only to have WP7 be made unfunctional in a month.
Now it may work fine... the devs may be able to release updated builds soon after MS releases updates... but I think it's just as likely that we will either be stuck with this version and not get any MS updates, or not getting updates and ms updating the market and live services to not work with phones that don't have the updates, rendering our wp7 build basicly a test build that can't do much.
Also, certain apps will never work on our phones correctly because we don't have the same multitouch native phones have... and we don't have all the colors native phones have.
Now, the HD2 is a good phone in itself even if WP7 isn't functional in the future since we can run android well and winmo 6.5. But if you only want it for wp7, realize that you are taking a risk with the HD2. I would personally spend the extra money for a native phone if I just wanted wp7. Just want to inform you of the situation before spending a lot of money on a HD2.

zarathustrax said:
Well, if you go with the HD2, you run a chance of WP7 not being functional on the HD2 in the future once microsoft updates it... and we probably won't get updates right away, if we even get them at all... and when updates happen and the HD2 can't update, it's possible market and live services may not work anymore. If you want it only for WP7, I would definitely say a few hundred dollars would be worth it. You wouldn't want to spend a couple hundred dollars on the HD2 only to have WP7 be made unfunctional in a month.
Now it may work fine... the devs may be able to release updated builds soon after MS releases updates... but I think it's just as likely that we will either be stuck with this version and not get any MS updates, or not getting updates and ms updating the market and live services to not work with phones that don't have the updates, rendering our wp7 build basicly a test build that can't do much.
Also, certain apps will never work on our phones correctly because we don't have the same multitouch native phones have... and we don't have all the colors native phones have.
Now, the HD2 is a good phone in itself even if WP7 isn't functional in the future since we can run android well and winmo 6.5. But if you only want it for wp7, realize that you are taking a risk with the HD2. I would personally spend the extra money for a native phone if I just wanted wp7. Just want to inform you of the situation before spending a lot of money on a HD2.
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Considering that the HD2 internal hardware is pretty much identical to the HD7, I would give DFT much higher than 50-50 odds that they'll be able to successfully port all updates to the HD7. Microsoft seems ambivalent as to whether that happens, and have signaled a commitment to continue allowing homebrew development. Those are the primary ingredients.
Given that the touchscreen and the camera focus are the only current bugs (especially this early in the game), I suspect they can also be remedied. From my testing, HD2 multitouch is not so finicky in the latest WM6.5x ROMs (you don't need to put both fingers down at the same time, for example). A homebrew camera replacement could easily accomplish touch-to-focus and speed up the snapshot lag.
I've gotta say, my doubts about this stuff are no greater than my doubts that WP7 will turn out to be a better OS than Android... which is why having the option to jump ship (or dual boot!) is pretty great. Let's wait and see if all current WP7 devices actually get the next two OS updates in a timely fashion.
So far, HD2 has got ADC while the Dell Venue Pro (for example) does not. If I had to bet on xda-devs putting their best foot forward on any device, it would be this one.

benjaminries said:
Considering that the HD2 internal hardware is pretty much identical to the HD7, I would give DFT much higher than 50-50 odds that they'll be able to successfully port all updates to the HD7. Microsoft seems ambivalent as to whether that happens, and have signaled a commitment to continue allowing homebrew development. Those are the primary ingredients.
Given that the touchscreen and the camera focus are the only current bugs (especially this early in the game), I suspect they can also be remedied. From my testing, HD2 multitouch is not so finicky in the latest WM6.5x ROMs (you don't need to put both fingers down at the same time, for example). A homebrew camera replacement could easily accomplish touch-to-focus and speed up the snapshot lag.
I've gotta say, my doubts about this stuff are no greater than my doubts that WP7 will turn out to be a better OS than Android... which is why having the option to jump ship (or dual boot!) is pretty great. Let's wait and see if all current WP7 devices actually get the next two OS updates in a timely fashion.
So far, HD2 has got ADC while the Dell Venue Pro (for example) does not. If I had to bet on xda-devs putting their best foot forward on any device, it would be this one.
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You may be right, and I agree the fact that the ability to boot multiple os's in case wp7 fails as an os makes the hd2 a great phone.... I wouldn't trade my hd2 for anything right now. I'm just saying for people only wanting wp7, we don't know for sure what will happen with wp7 on the hd2 in the future, and it may be worth it to get a native wp7 so you're guaranteed updates when they come and you'll have a guaranteed working wp7. But obviously if you want to dualboot and can accept the risk and fact it may not get updates or work 100%, the hd2 is a great phone and well worth it.
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I will give it a try. Hey, no risk, no fun!
Even if there will be no more WP7 updates in the future (which i cannot believe, MS still needs every WP7 user to increase their market shares), a HD2 still will be a much superior Android device than my G1 now, for just a small amount of money (if i have a little bit luck at buying/selling)

I use my HD2 a lot each day
It only runs Windows Phone 7
/nuffsaid

LOL. The HD2 is so much fun that it's simply the phone of all times already. I really would't trade it in right now and I'm happy I didn't sell it a few months ago as I usually do with my phones. It's the first phone to make it over a year in my pocket for the last 5 years and it will surely stay there for the months to come.
WP7 is surprisingly stable and bugfree and is my current first choice OS for the HD2. I am also pretty confident that all WP7 updates will be available to the HD2 users one way or another. It's not really that critical if you have to wait a few days after the official release. I'm also anxious to give MeeGo a try once it's in a usable state
Of course this is all true only if the prowd HD2 owner is:
1. Ready to accept the risk that he may not have any WP7 updates.
2. Ready to accept the risk of bricking his beloved phone at any time.
3. Ready to read alot about how to get all the fancy stuff working.
4. Ready to spend a night or day repartitioning SD cards, flashing a new Radio that could potentially give him 2 hrs more battery etc.
If you are not prepared for all this and more it's much better to get a native phone with your desired OS

Ryoukou said:
I will give it a try. Hey, no risk, no fun!
Even if there will be no more WP7 updates in the future (which i cannot believe, MS still needs every WP7 user to increase their market shares), a HD2 still will be a much superior Android device than my G1 now, for just a small amount of money (if i have a little bit luck at buying/selling)
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Exactly... if you like android too, the hd2 makes a great phone, cause you can have wp7 on internal memory, and partition your memory card so you can also run android from the sd. I have a 32gb card with 21gb for wp7 and 8gb for android... and I just got a second 32gb card to keep a couple android builds on, and ubuntu and wm65 when it comes out for sd booting.
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[Q] TRADE HD2 For HD7 Directly? Both T-Mobile, Mint Cond.

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I say no because Windows Phone 7 is still very much still work in progress or as some would say still a infant OS. I mean don't get me wrong I am not knocking WP7 but what I am saying is it is still missing a lot of features of Win Mo and Andriod for that matter. Plus if you love the customization you can do through out Win Mo on the HD2 you will find WP7 very dull cause you have almost no customizationability of it. When I say costamization of the HD2 i mean a stock HD2. I am not even talking about a HD2 with all the bells and whistles and eye candy or one running Andriod. Plus WP7 is to much lick the iOS to me as far as hoe Windows tried to lock everytging down. I mean the "internal" 16GB of memiry is not really internal memory. It iz a SD card but they designed the HD7 and all WP7 devices were you have to void your warranty fo change the card to a bigger card are even remove it to put in a card reader, no more hot swap. Plus WP7 portitions the card in such a fashion that unless you totally reformated it that it is no good for anything else. Not to mention no MP3 support for ringtones on WP7. i highly suggest you keep your HD2 atleast until the first real update for WP7 comes out then see if you might like it. Oh and by the way the person that wants to trade with you probably hates the WP7 and is hopping they can get over on you and convience you to trade you excalibure of phones the HD2.

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Well... Its all choice and preference
I've been in a similar position.. You see the Pros/cons and you might be alright with the trade or still have doubts....
WP7 on the HD7 is still knew and there is still more stuff on the way with WP7... The Chances of the HD7 getting any other OS is virtually ZERO.. but hey in a year or two the HD7 might be booting up an Android Build for the first time in a room with a developer or something
While the HD2 is an established phone with different OS's you gotta remember at some point the HD2 was like the HD7 locked down to WM6 and people saying its impossible to put anything else
TAKE the risk and see how it goes.. You might regret it right away or in time..
Right now the HD2 is the better phone.. Has more ROMS then you can count (lol) while the HD7 just has WP7 (for now)
If you want to then go ahead... just make sure your okay with your decision... I traded my HD2 for a Pre+ just for the fact that i wanted to try webOS out.. It took like a weeks time until i started regretting it.. but i knew what i was doing from the start and dealt with it.. Now I still have my Pre+ and bought a new HD2 last month.. Since its a great phone..
Would I trade for an HD7.... I would say no but then ill still think about it very much

I was also contemplating this move, trade in my hd2 for an hd7, but now I read that the main update that will bring multi tasking is not coming till 2012, I am beginning to give up on wp7, plus I have rediscovered just how flexibly and fast android can be with a very good sd build, I would say NO to the swap, the hd2 gives you more choices, still unsure which direction the wp7 platform is heading down or sideways
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I think this would be a bad move unless you flipped the HD7 for another HD2 + cash or something.
The HD7 is a nice phone, but it doesn't really run WP7 any better than the HD2 does, other than the multi-touch bug they're trying to fix. The OS just lacks too much right now, and by the time it is actually useable as a daily phone there will dual-core phones with much better hardware all around and the QSD chip will be archaic.
You would probably have traders-remorse in about a week when you can't load up any build of Android you want, I just can't see that it would be worth it. I don't know a single person who owns a WP7 phone and I have a pretty large group of friends, everyone is iOS or Android, it's just not ready for prime-time yet and this is not the device you want, get the next gen one.

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sd card for w7

hey guys, getting some errors on my first rom install i did last night so gonna replace my 2gig micro sd card, the one that came free with the phone.
seen this on ebay, any advice recommendations would be very much appreciated
Joyflash 16GB Micro SD HC Card Class 10
£16.99

i would recommend searching as there is litterally hundreds of posts on this
but whilst im here, i wouldnt bother with that
Here is the truth of the matter,
There is no confirmed cards available on the market (potentially AT&T are selling one branded for it but it costs quite a bit and i dont know anyone thats had one)
Second thing, there is no confirmed working cards on the market ( yes repeating was intentional)
The only confirmed card is one that has been tried in a Device and has been proven to work
You have just as much luck getting a card working than one that doesnt however you can increase your chances of getting one that works by sticking to class 2 or 4
im not going in to the details of why... but that is not to say a class 10 wont work, many people have had them working, but it appears that class 2 and 4 have a higher chance of working.
Brand doesnt mean anything, some folk are saying sandisk are the best, however from my point of view this isnt the case as 2 of my cards that dont work are sandisk, inshort it depends on many things which ultimately brings teh whole thing down to luck!

My 16gig Class 2 Sandisk works fine... OS didn't reject it, I get no errors and I get no chugging when viewing sizable video files off the card (1.8gig rip of avatar for instance)...
This is strange as in the same HD2 with the stock WM 6.5 ROM, the card was slow as hell and even populating views for pictures and videos was hell slow...
I ordered a class 6 via eBay so I can diskcopy to the faster card but I'm know its only for my peace of mind...
A class 4 or 6 should do the job but stick to better brands such as Sandisk or Kingston...

WM was crippled by poor driver support, the HD2 at the time of its launch had an amazing graphics potential but we never had drivers, even the XDA ones were only touching the surface of its potential, WP7 uses that potential hence when graphics and video seem more fluid, its a shame, WM is an amazing OS if it only had some TLC, i believe thats why MS has had to lock down the WP7 OS because carriers / HTC / QC screwed WM and the irony was that MS got the blame for it all
whoops sorry posted in wrong thread, your right back on topic!

dazza9075 said:
WM was crippled by poor driver support, the HD2 at the time of its launch had an amazing graphics potential but we never had drivers, even the XDA ones were only touching the surface of its potential, WP7 uses that potential hence when graphics and video seem more fluid, its a shame, WM is an amazing OS if it only had some TLC, i believe thats why MS has had to lock down the WP7 OS because carriers / HTC / QC screwed WM and the irony was that MS got the blame for it all
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Not wanting to go too far off topic, I'll say this...
When using an 8gig no-name card I had no troubles with old WM... It only slowed when using the 16gig Class 2 Sandisk...

argentocruz said:
Not wanting to go too far off topic, I'll say this...
When using an 8gig no-name card I had no troubles with old WM... It only slowed when using the 16gig Class 2 Sandisk...
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its luck, i dont think people understand that, perhaps because we all operate on here in a world full of 1's and 0's.
personally i think it just highlights that companys will put on a shelf anything they like of minor but questionable levels of quality

[Q] Planning on buying one...

Hi. So i've been thinking about buying and HTC HD2 for a while, and finally decided that i will buy one.
I'm looking on Amazon at the moment and after looking at the reviews, the only problem seems to be that they are shipping T-Mobile USA versions of the phone instead of International. Which i'm completely fine with since i live in the USA and T-Mobile USA is my carrier.
The price is $299.99. I"m wondering if this device is worth that price considering that it came out like 1-2 years ago.
Would this be a good purchase? or would it be better to just look around more on ebay or something like that.
Thanks for the help .

i love this phone. i live and breathe it (for good or bad) but paying 300 bucks just might be worth it. i mean it is great. but you are paying for a WM phone to put wm7 or android (assuming you don't want WM). seems like you could get a lot of phone for that kind of cash. now the fun factor is worth it, but i see a lot of android native phones and happy people. personally, i would look around, check out native devices and the tweaks available here and go from there. now, it isn't a bad choice for a phone, but it ain't no spring chicken.

I already have an Android device. I was gonna get the HD2 back when i upgrade in November. I don't know why i didn't lol.
I figured $300 might be worth it. I've never used a Windows Mobile device before. I know it isn't exactly an amazing operating system. But if i don't like it i could stick Android or Windows Phone 7 on it. Which is another reason I kinda want to get this because I was thinking my next device would be a Windows Phone 7 device anyway. And it's not like i'm wasting an upgrade with T-Mobile anyway so I could still upgrade to a newer device later down the road.
I might just do it. According to Amazon i can return cell phones within the first 30 days of purchase. So i could probably just get a refund if I have problems with it or something.

I bought one for 380 about 3 or 4 months ago, and I definitely thought it was worth it.
There's so much you can do with this phone. Take off wm6.5 and put android on there. And at least 6 different really good versions of android. And it's so easy to switch from one android rom to another.
And after you've found the one you really like, then you can customize the hell out of it.
I'm a student in graduate school and this phone is the primary way I study. I installed studydroid, and this is 90% of what I do to study for an exam. If I had known how helpful this phone would be in my day to day activities, I would have bought it a year early for twice as much.
It has a calender, note taking, syncing contacts with google, very decent camera, mp3 player, and you can make the phone look very pretty.
If my HD2 broke right now, I would probably buy another for 300 usd immediately.

zackdroid said:
Hi. So i've been thinking about buying and HTC HD2 for a while, and finally decided that i will buy one.
I'm looking on Amazon at the moment and after looking at the reviews, the only problem seems to be that they are shipping T-Mobile USA versions of the phone instead of International. Which i'm completely fine with since i live in the USA and T-Mobile USA is my carrier.
The price is $299.99. I"m wondering if this device is worth that price considering that it came out like 1-2 years ago.
Would this be a good purchase? or would it be better to just look around more on ebay or something like that.
Thanks for the help .
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to be really Honest..once you start using Windows Mobile after using Android there is a 99% chance you wont like it. Its just lack of support thats all. I however still use WM cos it fulfills my basic needs.
1) SMS
2) Internet(Opera Mini)
3) Watching Movies
4) Making Calls
5) Battery Life (its amazing...I have 3G off and use automatic brightness and at the end of the day after nominal use my battery meter is around 70%)
So I am sure you will feel like putting Android/WP7 on it but since you already have an android phone you would go for Wp7
if thats the case
i would advice you to rather go buy the HD7 cos no matter how much of tweaking they do to the WP7 on HD2 it wont be as good as native Wp7 on HD7 ( is what I feel...battery issues...driver issues...magldr issues)
so yeah...go for a HD7..its an amazing phone...sleek and better display than HD2 (more colors) !! and i think an Android port will be soon there for the HD7 tooo !!!

Thanks everyone for the input. I just ordered it, it will be here friday .

Zackdroid,
Congratulations on your purchase! Just my 2 cents: while it's fashionable around these parts to knock the Windows Mobile 6.5 OS and for (well-meaning) people to advise you: "just take that off and install Android", let me just say that:
If we're talking about stock WinMo + stock Sense as the phone comes out of the box, then yes-- it's crappy. Considering that Microsoft is very good at building things with potential, but ultimately releasing them half-assed and half-brained, it's no wonder. But thanks to the incredibly smart, dedicated, creative, and inventive folks here on XDA, you can skin, stabilize, and mod WinMo into an entirely different beast (or install a custom ROM that does it for you). I started off like most people, whining about Windows on the HD2 and wanting to do something about it. However, unlike many others, I had to keep WinMo because I have need for several apps that have no Android equivalent (including a few that I wrote myself). So for me it started as necessity. But now, I'll say to anyone who'll listen, that a custom WinMo6.5 running the new Cookie's Home Tab Suite (with Editor, GUI, and Loco) is an entirely different experience. It's like the OS that Microsoft should have built, but didn't. In reality, it's not really even a mod but a bona fide re-write of the operating system (and it certainly blows the newer Windows Phone 7 out of the water). Truthfully, I love WinMo + CHT so much that when I'm in Android I can sometimes feel guilty that I'm not using CHT (and btw, I LOVE Android). So before you dismiss WinMo out of hand, give that some thought.
I cant say I really understand a lot of the advice here like "when you get your phone wipe Windows and install Android". This is NOT because of my previous statement defending WinMo, but rather because:
if its strictly Android you're after, there are newer (and cheaper) phones that have Android already installed, or that you can root and install your own custom flavor, but most importantly...
one of the most beautiful things about the HD2 is its unique status as a powerful, versatile, multi-OS phone. This thing is just not meant to run one OS!
NOTHING beats somebody asking me,
"Hey, what kind of phone is that?"
It's an HD2, I say.
"Oh, what is that, Android?"
Well...yes...I run Android. And a custom version of Windows Mobile. Oh, and Ubuntu as well. Yep. 'Matter of fact, if I wanted to I could run MeeGo, Win 95, and a few others I can't think of.
And then I can watch their jaw drop. I have had hardcore geeks practically foaming at the mouth in envy after I give them a quick multi-boot custom ROM demo and tally off all the relentless hacking I've done to this phone. It's awesome.
The bottom line is most of us here installed other stuff on our phone because we weren't satisfied with the stock phone, and could do something about it, because of the people and tools present here on XDA. But we already owned an HD2. I'm not sure I would go out and buy an HD2 if I was just going to turn it into a run of the mill phone like all the rest... get me?

RDionysus said:
Zackdroid,
Congratulations on your purchase! Just my 2 cents: while it's fashionable around these parts to knock the Windows Mobile 6.5 OS and for (well-meaning) people to advise you: "just take that off and install Android", let me just say that:
If we're talking about stock WinMo + stock Sense as the phone comes out of the box, then yes-- it's crappy. Considering that Microsoft is very good at building things with potential, but ultimately releasing them half-assed and half-brained, it's no wonder. But thanks to the incredibly smart, dedicated, creative, and inventive folks here on XDA, you can skin, stabilize, and mod WinMo into an entirely different beast (or install a custom ROM that does it for you). I started off like most people, whining about Windows on the HD2 and wanting to do something about it. However, unlike many others, I had to keep WinMo because I have need for several apps that have no Android equivalent (including a few that I wrote myself). So for me it started as necessity. But now, I'll say to anyone who'll listen, that a custom WinMo6.5 running the new Cookie's Home Tab Suite (with Editor, GUI, and Loco) is an entirely different experience. It's like the OS that Microsoft should have built, but didn't. In reality, it's not really even a mod but a bona fide re-write of the operating system (and it certainly blows the newer Windows Phone 7 out of the water). Truthfully, I love WinMo + CHT so much that when I'm in Android I can sometimes feel guilty that I'm not using CHT (and btw, I LOVE Android). So before you dismiss WinMo out of hand, give that some thought.
I cant say I really understand a lot of the advice here like "when you get your phone wipe Windows and install Android". This is NOT because of my previous statement defending WinMo, but rather because:
if its strictly Android you're after, there are newer (and cheaper) phones that have Android already installed, or that you can root and install your own custom flavor, but most importantly...
one of the most beautiful things about the HD2 is its unique status as a powerful, versatile, multi-OS phone. This thing is just not meant to run one OS!
NOTHING beats somebody asking me,
"Hey, what kind of phone is that?"
It's an HD2, I say.
"Oh, what is that, Android?"
Well...yes...I run Android. And a custom version of Windows Mobile. Oh, and Ubuntu as well. Yep. 'Matter of fact, if I wanted to I could run MeeGo, Win 95, and a few others I can't think of.
And then I can watch their jaw drop. I have had hardcore geeks practically foaming at the mouth in envy after I give them a quick multi-boot custom ROM demo and tally off all the relentless hacking I've done to this phone. It's awesome.
The bottom line is most of us here installed other stuff on our phone because we weren't satisfied with the stock phone, and could do something about it, because of the people and tools present here on XDA. But we already owned an HD2. I'm not sure I would go out and buy an HD2 if I was just going to turn it into a run of the mill phone like all the rest... get me?
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Pretty much the main reason I wanted to buy this phone is because of all of the OS's. I've heard people say that Windows Mobile is a horrible OS but honestly it doesn't look as bad as people say. I'm deffinantly not just buying this just to put Android on it considering I already have a rooted Android phone lol. I've always wanted to mess around and use Windows Mobile. And it's a device that could probably last me a while. I really can't wait until it gets here . lol.
EDIT: I also forgot to put on here that I think some of the Windows Mobile ROMs are pretty cool and nice looking.

I had my share of WM devices over the years and find HD2 simply amazing. When presented with a choice, I went for HD2 due to various OS ports available and options/customisations presented. In fact, I am in the process of parting with every other phone in my collection, bar HTC Universal, but I am keeping that one for sentimental reasons.
So yeah, i'd part with $300 if I had to replace mine. I am looking for a main board to stick into another HD2 I have, just so that I can have 1 set up and operational for daily use and another for flashing and playing around. Anyone wants to part with their broken, yet still alive HD2 - give me a PM.

As a matter of fact, I might have to shell out for a new HD2 myself. After a year and a half my phone has developed some reception/antenna problems, which if I cant figure out how to resolve it (like, by cracking open the phone and seeing if there's something "obvious" I can fix) I will have to retire the phone.
At that point, it will be tempting to grab something from the new crop of sweet Android-only phones, but I know for sure I'd be jonesin' for some multi-platform action and my HD2.
I'm starting to look now; I just hope I can find one for the right price.

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As a matter of fact, I might have to shell out for a new HD2 myself. After a year and a half my phone has developed some reception/antenna problems, which if I cant figure out how to resolve it (like, by cracking open the phone and seeing if there's something "obvious" I can fix) I will have to retire the phone.
At that point, it will be tempting to grab something from the new crop of sweet Android-only phones, but I know for sure I'd be jonesin' for some multi-platform action and my HD2.
I'm starting to look now; I just hope I can find one for the right price.
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That sucks :/. When I was looking around ebay i saw some for cheap prices. I figured i should play it safe by buying off of amazon though so that's what i did. I paid $299US for it.
Meanwhile, if you are looking at newer Android devices, and you're on T-Mobile USA, and don't mind keyboards, I would wait untill the myTouch 4G Slide is released. And HTC is supposed to be unlocking the bootloader on the Sensation 4G so that's another choice .

enigma1nz said:
I had my share of WM devices over the years and find HD2 simply amazing. When presented with a choice, I went for HD2 due to various OS ports available and options/customisations presented. In fact, I am in the process of parting with every other phone in my collection, bar HTC Universal, but I am keeping that one for sentimental reasons.
So yeah, i'd part with $300 if I had to replace mine. I am looking for a main board to stick into another HD2 I have, just so that I can have 1 set up and operational for daily use and another for flashing and playing around. Anyone wants to part with their broken, yet still alive HD2 - give me a PM.
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That's why I went for the HD2. My other choice was gonna be the Touch Pro2 since it was cheaper and you can put Android on it. But i think the extra money will be worth it.

zackdroid said:
That sucks :/. When I was looking around ebay i saw some for cheap prices. I figured i should play it safe by buying off of amazon though so that's what i did. I paid $299US for it.
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Yeah, there's a lot of phones on Ebay, but many are of questionable quality. You'll pay more on Amazon, but I'm assuming you got a warranty, so that's piece of mind.
Meanwhile, if you are looking at newer Android devices, and you're on T-Mobile USA, and don't mind keyboards, I would wait untill the myTouch 4G Slide is released. And HTC is supposed to be unlocking the bootloader on the Sensation 4G so that's another choice .
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Thanks, I hadn't given any thought to the myTouch. And obviously the Sensation is the new "it" phone, but honestly, apart from the excitement factor, it's served me well not to jump on the latest stuff, preferring to let the real early-adopters see what kinds of flaws and bugs are present and whether they can be fixed. I've avoided quite a few lemons this way (although you can't always avoid them all ) There are some grumblings RE the Sensation which I'm keeping my eye on: possible "deathgrip" flaw (which may turn out to be a red herring), wide swings in reception-quality on the TMOUS network (which the HD2 also suffered from!), so we'll see....
In the meantime, a few of my friends are taking any opportunity to rave (which can get a bit annoying) about their T-Mo G2X's, so that's a prospect if I go the non-HD2 route....

RDionysus said:
Yeah, there's a lot of phones on Ebay, but many are of questionable quality. You'll pay more on Amazon, but I'm assuming you got a warranty, so that's piece of mind.
Thanks, I hadn't given any thought to the myTouch. And obviously the Sensation is the new "it" phone, but honestly, apart from the excitement factor, it's served me well not to jump on the latest stuff, preferring to let the real early-adopters see what kinds of flaws and bugs are present and whether they can be fixed. I've avoided quite a few lemons this way (although you can't always avoid them all ) There are some grumblings RE the Sensation which I'm keeping my eye on: possible "deathgrip" flaw (which may turn out to be a red herring), wide swings in reception-quality on the TMOUS network (which the HD2 also suffered from!), so we'll see....
In the meantime, a few of my friends are taking any opportunity to rave (which can get a bit annoying) about their T-Mo G2X's, so that's a prospect if I go the non-HD2 route....
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you sir, are a fountain of wisdom

Thanks DPMAce, I have my moments
But really, any wisdom comes from listening to and learning from all the folks around here who are smarter than me

RDionysus said:
Yeah, there's a lot of phones on Ebay, but many are of questionable quality. You'll pay more on Amazon, but I'm assuming you got a warranty, so that's piece of mind.
Thanks, I hadn't given any thought to the myTouch. And obviously the Sensation is the new "it" phone, but honestly, apart from the excitement factor, it's served me well not to jump on the latest stuff, preferring to let the real early-adopters see what kinds of flaws and bugs are present and whether they can be fixed. I've avoided quite a few lemons this way (although you can't always avoid them all ) There are some grumblings RE the Sensation which I'm keeping my eye on: possible "deathgrip" flaw (which may turn out to be a red herring), wide swings in reception-quality on the TMOUS network (which the HD2 also suffered from!), so we'll see....
In the meantime, a few of my friends are taking any opportunity to rave (which can get a bit annoying) about their T-Mo G2X's, so that's a prospect if I go the non-HD2 route....
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Yeah. It's not always the best to jump in to new devices. I'm trying to force my self to wait to get the Galaxy S2 whenever it gets launched in the US. lol. I got really lucky getting the myTouch 4G almost right after it launched. A lot of devices were shipped with bad screens and bad emmc chips. The G2X looks nice although i've heard it has rebooting problems and stuff like that. But considering it's currently out of stock on T-Mobile's website, they're probably working on fixing it.

UPDATE
UPDATE: It came in the mail today . Everything seems to be fine. It's the T-Mobile USA version. The only odd thing was that it came in a myTouch 4G box...lol. But I got the device and that's all that really matters.

zackdroid said:
UPDATE: It came in the mail today . Everything seems to be fine. It's the T-Mobile USA version. The only odd thing was that it came in a myTouch 4G box...lol. But I got the device and that's all that really matters.
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lol that's funny.
First thing is flash HSPL2.08 and get Android/WP7 on that bad boy!!!

orangekid said:
lol that's funny.
First thing is flash HSPL2.08 and get Android/WP7 on that bad boy!!!
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I'm gonna do some reading first. I want to try the Android on SD Card thing first. It only came with a 512MB SD Card though and my other SD card is being used for my other phone. So i'll have to go out and buy one.

zackdroid said:
I'm gonna do some reading first. I want to try the Android on SD Card thing first. It only came with a 512MB SD Card though and my other SD card is being used for my other phone. So i'll have to go out and buy one.
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That's pretty weak.
This is hands down the best ROM you can use on your SD card.
once you get your card just download the ROM, extract it, move it to your SD card (the Android subfolder).
then you just click CLRCD and then Haret and you're running Android!
http://www.multiupload.com/M92WB5L9V3