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why nexus one get 5x linpack mark in 2.2 but galaxy s cannot

is that the problem of the cpu?

Maybe because it's an unoptimised alpha testing build of the firmware? I mean, this has been answered like 1000 times already.

Unlikely. It's probably because the JIT isn't currently switched on in the 2.2 alpha.

ygvuhb said:
is that the problem of the cpu?
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Could you please stop spamming the forum!
It is because of lack of optimisation! these are al beta firmwares! not official stable releases! wait until 2.2 really gets released for the Galaxy S before making statements!

Good question I'm curious of this myself
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So much anger about spamming unless u are a Google employee with android 9.0+++ to share or some rediculous find than you get no love
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OP, you're an idiot. JP2 is an Alpha stage. It's not an official rom.
Moderator, could you delete this thread.

What's wrong with you people? Don't you have anything else to do but harass people asking legitimate questions. The most unnecessary posts/spam I see on XDA are posts by people telling others not to post, its hypocritical! There are options available to flag posts that are not appropriate and then moderator can remove what they see fit, that there job not yours!
I've been looking for an answer for this question ever since froyo builds started leaking. Makes sense that it could be because the roms are alphas, but I also heard is it could be the snapdragon cpus are faster at calculations than the hummingbird CPU, I'm not talking about GPU which is hands down better on the hummingbird processor. I think our question will be answered when the new Nexus S is benchmarked and see how it compares.
sl8125 said:
OP, you're an idiot. JP2 is an Alpha stage. It's not an official rom.
Moderator, could you delete this thread.
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BackfireNL said:
Could you please stop spamming the forum!
It is because of lack of optimisation! these are al beta firmwares! not official stable releases! wait until 2.2 really gets released for the Galaxy S before making statements!
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Intratech said:
Maybe because it's an unoptimised alpha testing build of the firmware? I mean, this has been answered like 1000 times already.
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Necroing much?
The last post in this thread was over 4 months ago. It's completely pointless to respond to this thread.

Snapdragon has 128 bit SIMD FPU data path and supports NEON. Thats why it score so high in linpack. Samsung orion chipset will have higher SIMD FPU datapath and support for NEON.

reddv1 said:
What's wrong with you people? Don't you have anything else to do but harass people asking legitimate questions. The most unnecessary posts/spam I see on XDA are posts by people telling others not to post, its hypocritical! There are options available to flag posts that are not appropriate and then moderator can remove what they see fit, that there job not yours!
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I think perhaps if it had been asked in the correct forum then it would have been fine.
Posts like these just show that people are too damn lazy to read the rules and post at random.
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shep211 said:
Snapdragon has 128 bit SIMD FPU data path and supports NEON. Thats why it score so high in linpack. Samsung orion chipset will have higher SIMD FPU datapath and support for NEON.
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Maybe it does maybe not ,NEON suppose to allow you play any media, but one thing for sure Nexus one can't play any media worth mentioning , best it will do is crappy h264.mp4 at (baseline level *barf* ).
Captivate(samsung galaxy s) however does 720p h264 (high level) , also MKV container, xvid ect
And yes i have both phones Nexus One and Cappy.
Snapdragons high linpack worth = exacly zero.
High linpack does not translate to anything usefull on the phone,
Games suck on Nexus one compared to Galaxy S (that depend on GPU not CPU), Adreno GPU in snapdragon is underpowered compared to Powervr SGX.
Any other regular application there is no noticeable difference both 1ghz, infact without JIT on 2.1 samsungs CPU was actually faster in linpack by 1,
Changeing file system brings highly noticeable snappiness.
Anyway unless you buy a phone to run linpack and get orgasm from a meaningless number i don't see a reason to care for snapdragon.

[Q] Will a Gingerbread ROM be possible on Legend?

I'm just curious seeing the Gingerbread OS requires very high-spec devices, and that the Legend is only a mid-range phone.

I don't think Google have even stated what the min spec's are for it, afaik it's mostly assumed a 1ghz cpu, 512mb ram etc are required.

THE ANSWER IS NO
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nah, i think google will optimize the speed of the android os etc.
it wouldnt be smart to point out low and mid range devices.
the real question is, will htc port gingerbread for the legend?

why ? there's no point to update an old phone.. it's htc. it took them a long time to port froyo..

Maby someone will cook it for us... but yes just we have to wait froyo update for legend
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HTC will never release Gingerbread for mid range phones.

SAME topic in development section where Ali Ba states that he has a good chance in cooking one along with the CM developers.

raf2k said:
HTC will never release Gingerbread for mid range phones.
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Sure they won't... they are not dumb to have support for devices that are more than 2 years old. Why would they... they release at least 10 devices per year. Their priority is to support most profitable devices at any moment.
What they could and should do is to release specs for hardware in such old devices so community would be able to "support" those if there is a will.

Gingerbread!!!

So Gingerbread (2.3) is here and I wanted to be the first nagging user to ask when we are going to see the port for the Aria?

No asking for ETAs...IOW, whenever they damn well please.
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Gingerbread may be out but the source isn't so no gingerbread for you.

Good things come to those who wait just like grandma's inheritance, uh, I mean cookies.
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Good news most def.

I think Gingerbread has limitations as far as the proc goes. I think it requires a minimum of 1ghz. I could be wrong tho.
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jbizz said:
I think Gingerbread has limitations as far as the proc goes. I think it requires a minimum of 1ghz. I could be wrong tho.
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This was a rumor a few months ago that was pretty much shot down. If you need proof, look at the G2. There's no way they would release it with an 800mhz processor if Gingerbread required 1ghz.

Yeah, you can't limit an OS because of processor clock cycle. Clock cycles in these days isn't as important as it used to be. We are in the new age of multi-core and instruction sets for optimization. Hell, look at the G1, it's running Froyo - now that's impressive!

Don't know if you guys saw this or not( http://www.xda-developers.com/android/breaking-news-gingerbread-2-3-running-on-droid-eris/ ), but punk.kaos got Gingerbread kinda working on the Eris. In terms of power the Eris is sort of a bottom feeder so if it can run on the Eris it definitely can run on the Aria. But we will have to be patient, unless someone knows how to port the source to the Aria. I am loving 6.1 right now, so I can wait for Gingerbread at the moment.

A guy got a hacked port to boot on his HTC Wildfire which is slower than the aria. No this does not mean a port will come to the aria yet.

ls377 said:
This was a rumor a few months ago that was pretty much shot down. If you need proof, look at the G2. There's no way they would release it with an 800mhz processor if Gingerbread required 1ghz.
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It was also assumed by many that Android 3.0 would be Gingerbread. Instead, Gingerbread is 2.3.
With 3.0, there are rumors of higher end graphics and processor requirements.
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Yeah, you can't limit an OS because of processor clock cycle. Clock cycles in these days isn't as important as it used to be. We are in the new age of multi-core and instruction sets for optimization. Hell, look at the G1, it's running Froyo - now that's impressive!
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True. It looks like Liberty/Slide/Legend will be included when CM goes to Android 2.3.
I am not sure about 3.0 though, if it's going to be targeted exclusively at larger, more powerful, higher resolution devices. Time will tell how successfully that stuff will be supported on MDPI devices it's not intended for with 1 1/2 gen processors, even with decent GPUs.

Gingerbread's already ported to Wildfire, which only has around 528 mhz. So we might get it. if someone works on it.

thatkidjoe said:
Gingerbread's already ported to Wildfire, which only has around 528 mhz. So we might get it. if someone works on it.
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Trust me, it will be worked on once we get a source drop for an actual device (N1, NS)

attn1 said:
Trust me, it will be worked on once we get a source drop for an actual device (N1, NS)
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you haven't disappointed us thus far attn1!
keep up the good work

Hey attn1, a dev at Google tweeted on LG's page that a 1ghz processor wasnt required for gingerbread, just thought I should let you know xD
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Plasmamuffins said:
Hey attn1, a dev at Google tweeted on LG's page that a 1ghz processor wasnt required for gingerbread, just thought I should let you know xD
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That's good news! No one knew until now!

Currently the Gingerbread ports are messy patches to the emulator system.img which happens to be for qualcomm/snapdragon type chips.
Just be patient and wait for source, anything we get before then will be hella slow and missing functionality.
Seeing as the Gratia launched with Froyo it woudln't suprise me if we get official Gingerbread at some point.

chambo622 said:
Currently the Gingerbread ports are messy patches to the emulator system.img which happens to be for qualcomm/snapdragon type chips.
Just be patient and wait for source, anything we get before then will be hella slow and missing functionality.
Seeing as the Gratia launched with Froyo it woudln't suprise me if we get official Gingerbread at some point.
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I know I'm not going to hold my breath for an official release. Based on what I've been reading on several forums, there have been rumblings that the Aria might not see an official 2.2 (Which quite frankly I had already given up hope on).
Who knows though, perhaps AT&T and HTC decided that since it's deployment on 2.2 was so late, that they would wait until 2.3... or 2.4... 5, or 6.
Either way, thanks for everything devs, CM and Liberated are both great Froyo ROMs, and I've used both without a hitch.

I think 2.3 will come to Aria (in CM), but I will wait at least N1 got updated. (Propably N1 won't got official update for marketing issue)
Don't trust rumors about the 1GHz bla bla bla, if Gingerbread is not 3D based and lots of effects and still require 1GHz to run smoothly, I believe it's a buggy OS (based on the NS, it's just like an big update for Froyo).

tleung11 said:
I think 2.3 will come to Aria (in CM), but I will wait at least N1 got updated. (Propably N1 won't got official update for marketing issue)
Don't trust rumors about the 1GHz bla bla bla, if Gingerbread is not 3D based and lots of effects and still require 1GHz to run smoothly, I believe it's a buggy OS (based on the NS, it's just like an big update for Froyo).
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Google has already pledged that Nexus One will get Gingerbread, so no issue there.
HTC said back in the beginning of the year that any device launched in 2010 will get upgraded to Froyo, so that includes the AT&T Aria, so we'll definitely get official Froyo for that.
Whether the AT&T Aria will get Gingerbread officially is up in the air, but I'm all but certain that the Gratia will, given that it just launched with 2.2.

Adreno 205

Is this legit? are these libs already being used by the devs here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386197

Yes. Qualcomm announced them a few days back. Some of the ROM devs have already included them.
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Yup, some ROMs like IceColdSandwich use it already

Is the performance boost really that great? Would be awesome.

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Is the performance boost really that great? Would be awesome.
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try reading that thread...people said that adreno 205 outperformed sgx 540 in some benchmarks...and one things clear that when you play gta 3 on IceColdSandwich and then play on any other sense rom, you see the performance....there's no lag in ICS whatsoever...

But IceColdSandwich is an AOSP Rom. Cm 7 with gingerbread runs GTA smoothly, too on a DHD.
So the question is: is the Desire HD really that much faster with the new drivers and Sense.

DHD users will we get it oficial with htc ICS update?

Yes in a couple of months
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Dr. lele said:
But IceColdSandwich is an AOSP Rom. Cm 7 with gingerbread runs GTA smoothly, too on a DHD.
So the question is: is the Desire HD really that much faster with the new drivers and Sense.
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No but trust me, that gingerbread rom doesn't run gta 3 as fast as the current LC's ICS run...try checking it yourself, there's definitely a boost..
Well, if it does beat sgx 540, then i think adreno 205 becomes 4th or 5th fastest GPU around after Tegra 3, tegra 2, mali 400, adreno 220...i mean, sgx 545 is being used in iphone 4s i think, so if adreno 205 beats sgx 540 then it competes with sgx 545, in other words Iphone 4s...
I think, OCed to 1.5ghz and adreno 205 with new libs can perform nearly the same as iphone 4s if what i've said above is correct then i think most of the upcoming dual core games can be run on DHD...
but nothing can be said until a proper benchmark is done with new and old libs...
green0153 said:
Yes in a couple of months
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lol actually sooner than that. Someone mentioned that specific carries will get it by the end of april but officially it would come out sooner and once the leaked is out, it's a matter of hours before devs adapt the rom...
Something can be expected within two weeks...

Optimistic, but I hope you're right!
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lol actually sooner than that. Someone mentioned that specific carries will get it by the end of april but officially it would come out sooner and once the leaked is out, it's a matter of hours before devs adapt the rom...
Something can be expected within two weeks...[/QUOTE]
On gsmarena.com it's wrote "upgradable to v 4.x.x"...It is already official?
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_hd-3468.php
I hope is no problem cause i post an external link here
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Today i've made a downgrade to stock 2.2.1 just to check that information ( if it is an OTA available )....it's not . All what i can find it is 2.3.4 with sense 3.0...that's all

bogddy87 said:
lol actually sooner than that. Someone mentioned that specific carries will get it by the end of april but officially it would come out sooner and once the leaked is out, it's a matter of hours before devs adapt the rom...
Something can be expected within two weeks...
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On gsmarena.com it's wrote "upgradable to v 4.x.x"...It is already official?
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_hd-3468.php
I hope is no problem cause i post an external link here
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Today i've made a downgrade to stock 2.2.1 just to check that information ( if it is an OTA available )....it's not . All what i can find it is 2.3.4 with sense 3.0...that's all[/QUOTE]
gsmarena starts saying that when the update s announced and not necessarily released.
To be honest, i will not stick with the official update but the custom one since they're optimized for better performance and most of the junk is removed...
plus, sense 3.6 might put you out because of the similarities to 3.5 which gives me another reason to get ported sense 4.0 rom rather than the official 3.6

shad0wboss said:
On gsmarena.com it's wrote "upgradable to v 4.x.x"...It is already official?
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_hd-3468.php
I hope is no problem cause i post an external link here
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Today i've made a downgrade to stock 2.2.1 just to check that information ( if it is an OTA available )....it's not . All what i can find it is 2.3.4 with sense 3.0...that's all
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you are currently looking at a GSMarena page saying an HTC 1 year 8 months old device, is upgradable to ICS
excellent work by HTC, seriously

More than 20 months worth of update support.
Yes, we will only get Sense 3.6, but that's not what's important. The important bit is the kernel.
I figure HTC could very easily just release a kernel for phones that they want to support but don't want to build a full ROM for, and let homebrew devs do the rest.

[Q] HTC Official OTA Update ICS sense for evo 4g possible?

i know chances are very slim to none, but do you guys think that HTC may push a sense 4.0A OTA Update for the evo? sense 4.0A on the one v matches our specs like 1 ghz proccesor and 512 ram. Voice your opinion in this thread!

Evo has been discontinued so the chances are slim to none but closer to none that it will happen
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No, we will not see it as the device has been deemed EOL, so it is no longer supported.
Though a leak from the One V might be helpful in porting Sense 4.0 as you can see they have very similar specs: Qualcomm Specs

imheroldman said:
No, we will not see it as the device has been deemed EOL, so it is no longer supported.
Though a leak from the One V might be helpful in porting Sense 4.0 as you can see they have very similar specs: Qualcomm Specs
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one V(aka htc primo) RUU was leaked a while ago

evo4gnoob said:
one V(aka htc primo) RUU was leaked a while ago
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true, i already deodexed, zipaligned and what not. i just need to resize some widgets decompile most apps etc. and of course, get a booting kernel lol
i got my ruu a month or so ago so it has been out for a while

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652145