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Hello all. The same people that opened up the Athena device, worked out numerous unlockers for many many devices and are now working on the newly released Polaris device are offering up our team and skills. Only problem is we have no devices to develop on. What we did on the Athena project was raise enough money from donations for 4 devices. There was an overwhelming response and the results were a fully unlocked device and customized ROMs. We also took it a step further and made things possible that were not in the original release of the device. If you guys are interested we can start-up a similar project. Up to you guys, the community.
Of course it's not necessary to start up such a project. I'm sure a developer will eventually purchase a device and do something with it. Time will tell.
Goals of proposed project:
- Unlock device
- Expand WM6 capabilities
- Remove as many limitations on device as possible
- IF possible, add phone and GPS capabilities
- Cooked ROMs
Hey Itxda,
I'm currently trying to get a job around the Shift .. but I have to wait for septembre (if the project is not refused) and in this case, I could make a Master Thesis upon the Shift and many abilities that comes with it.
I'm trying to get the shift the soonest as possible and as soon as I will have it, I will start developing the most I can (Cooked ROMs, Expand WM6 capabilities are the MOST important for me).
I'd love to work with XDA developers but as I'm from Belgium it is not currently easy .. and I don't even know if the Shift is "really" released here.
What can be "nice" should be a collaboration between Shift users and XDA developers. I think that Expand WM6 is the first goal to reach .. and I'm sure that we will find how to get FULL WM6 !
seems that Expand WM6 capabailities are OK now YESSSSSSSS
pls. let me know how can I turn it too full WM6system. I bought Htc Shift. and after then I found, it has no full WM6 system? Why? pls help me. I am biginner in system and registry problem, pls write it step by step. thx.
p.s. i am very glad, super device.
koala996 said:
Hey Itxda,
I'm currently trying to get a job around the Shift .. but I have to wait for septembre (if the project is not refused) and in this case, I could make a Master Thesis upon the Shift and many abilities that comes with it.
I'm trying to get the shift the soonest as possible and as soon as I will have it, I will start developing the most I can (Cooked ROMs, Expand WM6 capabilities are the MOST important for me).
I'd love to work with XDA developers but as I'm from Belgium it is not currently easy .. and I don't even know if the Shift is "really" released here.
What can be "nice" should be a collaboration between Shift users and XDA developers. I think that Expand WM6 is the first goal to reach .. and I'm sure that we will find how to get FULL WM6 !
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Thanks for your response.
That's basically how we all did it on the Athena Project. Established a few goals, outlined the details then kicked some butt.
The Athena, being the monster she is...now runs more stable, faster and has the latest and greatest. You guys might want to look over at the Athena forum to see how the project did. We started at v1.0. Everyone loved it. Went on to 2.0 and 3.0. Now we're working on 4.0 which is going to be a nice surprise for everyone.
We'll see if anyone else is interested. For now I'm more than happy with my Athena but if people want to move forward we can get things going. Just want to know if it's something that's wanted.
Shift is a nice toy but damn HTC for what they did to the WM side. I have no idea what they were thinking here.
nemeth said:
pls. let me know how can I turn it too full WM6system. I bought Htc Shift. and after then I found, it has no full WM6 system? Why? pls help me. I am biginner in system and registry problem, pls write it step by step. thx.
p.s. i am very glad, super device.
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I wish I could just give you the how-to but it's not that simple. HTC did some pretty nasty things within this wonderful device and it'll take some serious hacking around and time to get things unlocked then working. We're not sure what the extent is, yet, to the full capabilities but if the community wants to move forward with the project, we can setup a PayPal account to start the donations and essentially repeat the enormous success accomplished under the Athena project.
Like I said, IF it's even possible...our team can get it done. Just another toy that needs to be shaped into a work of art
O.K. I would like. pls do it. thnx.
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O.K. I would like. pls do it. thnx.
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Ok, that's two yes answers. Let's see what others have to say. Be back later, stepping out.
personally i think the shift is just begging to be hacked! i'm part of the athena project and would help in shift project too.
now that it's revealed how to access \Windows and file explorer, the next step will be creating a virtual USB connection to the vista side (this is possible!), then you can use activesync and can flash roms too, and we (with Olipro) can make hard-SPL and even simunlocker if there is a simlocked version of the shift.
the WM side of course needs a properly cooked rom, put the functionality and apps back and customizations. and of course we need to enable lots of hardware, i'm sure at least part of that can be managed (from SD and wifi to phone and GPS).
i can't wait to start hacking on this but first a device is needed.
im all for it as well
Count me in
I am in, let's do it!
nice. i'll happily cook everyone a good custom for for the shift like i did for the athena. watch the athena space for the 4.0 release. u'll definalty want that on ur shift.
from what i seen in the test roms, gps and phone shouldnt be too hard to get back. wifi just might be a bit harder. the antenna and all seem to be there as the test roms have a gps tool
Yes!
Yes, do it, cook the little bugger!
tell us where to donate for the shift project and i will
cheers, steve
tell us where to donate for the shift project
Big donate For italian lenguage!!!!
count me in financially ...
So far all positive feedback but there are hundreds of more users on this forum so we really need to hear back from the community.
We'll be finalizing Athena Project 4.0 soon so the timing is perfect.
The immediate core team members will be:
ltxda (myself of course)
Olipro
Cmonex
PK
Other members will be recruited as the need arises. We would also need two existing forum members with experience and good testing skills for when the ROM is beta quality to help test and work out any kinks.
Ok, i'm in. I can't help financially until i've paid off my Shift, but I'm up for any testing that needs doing.
Edit - I just donated.
Shift Project now accepting donations...
I setup a link on my signature for the Shift Project.
Remember, we're going to need the entire community to pitch in here to make this as successful as the Athena Project.
If we end up without the necessary donations we will just refund the money from the project. I hope that doesn't happen...never had to do a mass refund before...I wonder how long that would take. LOL
The good thing about this forum it's based on users like me...those that like the high end toys and don't mind playing a bit ;-)
Best HD2 owner's/users/modders.
By now it should be obvious that HTC should have noticed the large amount of users the XDA forum attracts every day.
As we all get excited for each new build out there,
should'nt we just send screenshots to HTC?
Posting and spamming HTC with all the benchmarks we can get!
So that they can't deny us and make a one time effort producing a NAND rom for us!
so we can Mod it further!
Please all of you : SPAM the freaking h*ll out of htc !!!
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Best HD2 owner's/users/modders.
By now it should be obvious that HTC should have noticed the large amount of users the XDA forum attracts every day.
As we all get excited for each new build out there,
should'nt we just send screenshots to HTC?
Posting and spamming HTC with all the benchmarks we can get!
So that they can't deny us and make a one time effort producing a NAND rom for us!
so we can Mod it further!
Please all of you : SPAM the freaking h*ll out of htc !!!
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I think no one going to do that.
Also a NAND version IS coming.
Only have patience
patience is an golden word only problem is i like silver comes before gold so hurry it already haha
nah, lave htc alone lol
lets all spam microsoft with the title "Who needs Windows Phone 7?" lol
leave brittney alone!!!(cries) ... lol
kingofyo1 said:
leave brittney alone!!!(cries) ... lol
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but seriously, isnt there ANY way we can convince htc ?
topderob said:
Best HD2 owner's/users/modders.
By now it should be obvious that HTC should have noticed the large amount of users the XDA forum attracts every day.
As we all get excited for each new build out there,
should'nt we just send screenshots to HTC?
Posting and spamming HTC with all the benchmarks we can get!
So that they can't deny us and make a one time effort producing a NAND rom for us!
so we can Mod it further!
Please all of you : SPAM the freaking h*ll out of htc !!!
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There is no way, EVER, that would work. If you manage to get ANY help on android development for hd2 by htc, I will personaly come down to your place and give you all the money I have. Thats how confident I am.
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leave brittney alone!!!(cries) ... lol
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Lmao.....
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
I wouldn't "spam" them. That would just irritate them and give us a bad look.
I think it's unlikely they would create and official Android for HD2, because afterall, that's not going to make them a huge amount of money. If they did do it, it would be more of a kind gesture to the community.
The best we can do is to write an open letter, explain why we believe an official Android release for the HD2 would be largely beneficial for both HTC and HD2 owners (present and future). Ensure they're aware of the current interest, and perhaps do a poll of who would buy the HD2 if Android was an official option.
It will make them more money, cos there are many people out there that are skeptical about buying an HD2 cos of its retarded OS(u know which one i mean)...tell me, doesnt an Hd2 running two official OS's sound super-tempting to you?
If someone would help us, will be Google department, giving us a free HD2 Android tree, but unofficial means, giving that to Cottula Team.....we are their embassadores....MS don't want we will be that for WM7.....and HTC don't care, just want sell hardware.....and this is not good for their business.
*** you MS and your 7s.
pack21 said:
If someone would help us, will be Google department, giving us a free HD2 Android tree, but unofficial means, giving that to Cottula Team.....we are their embassadores....MS don't want we will be that for WM7.....and HTC don't care, just want sell hardware.....and this is not good for their business.
*** you MS and your 7s.
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wouldt work.. for it to work, google will need to ask their coders to come up with kernels to boot up android in hd2, not give us an os build..
RJackson said:
I wouldn't "spam" them. That would just irritate them and give us a bad look.
I think it's unlikely they would create and official Android for HD2, because afterall, that's not going to make them a huge amount of money. If they did do it, it would be more of a kind gesture to the community.
The best we can do is to write an open letter, explain why we believe an official Android release for the HD2 would be largely beneficial for both HTC and HD2 owners (present and future). Ensure they're aware of the current interest, and perhaps do a poll of who would buy the HD2 if Android was an official option.
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like u say, i wouldt recommend spamming htc.. but maybe we can have an online petition and gather virtual signatures and submit it to HTC?
would that be a better idea?
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wouldt work.. for it to work, google will need to ask their coders to come up with kernels to boot up android in hd2, not give us an os build..
like u say, i wouldt recommend spamming htc.. but maybe we can have an online petition and gather virtual signatures and submit it to HTC?
would that be a better idea?
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I like that idea for a petition for Android on HD2......and make Google our aliade, they have a good relationship with HTC.
Let's do it.....I'm in!
pack21 said:
I like that idea for a petition for Android on HD2......and make Google our aliade, they have a good relationship with HTC.
Let's do it.....I'm in!
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while your all at it, 'sign' here too if you havnt already.
http://layar.uservoice.com/forums/20979-general/suggestions/313434-windows-mobile-client?ref=title
make sure google dont forget about us
I suppose one could petition for it, to show them the interest. But it's still quite unlikely. They would have to (I think) strike some deal with Microsoft to release the WinMo exclusivity with the HD2. I think they would also have a tough time selling Android-based units, purely because of the inconsistency of having a Windows button on the keypad.
I suppose a petition could convince them to get involved in the htc-linux project, ie. help the dev's out with any problems, questions, etc.
The new HTC Desire HD is almost identical (at least spec wise) to the HD2 (exept the Cam)! Why would HTC ever do an HD2 Android ROM when they are going to make an "all new" device with Android? HTC woun't care for us! We already bought the device! They need new customers to buy new devices and not having "old" ones ugraded all the time!
pack21 said:
I like that idea for a petition for Android on HD2......and make Google our aliade, they have a good relationship with HTC.
Let's do it.....I'm in!
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lets do it guys im in, lets make some noise. we buy the phone we should decide what so we want
dream on my friend.... cuz you don't have a clue how job is done in large corporations! they have licesnes, copyrights, huuuge amounts of paper for one phone, so they can't just say: "hey we can grab source, do android and make xda community happy! yay!"
they are about to release desireHD so if you want android buy that one!
only thing you will do by spamming to HTC is to attract a HUUUGE hord of lawyers that will shut down xda, htc-linux and whole thing our devs were working for.
They just look away now because "they can't be responsible for things you do with your phone" as lawsuits are often big amount of money and time spent.
if this kind of behavior continues it WILL get nasty! take conflipper as example, but you probably don't even know who that is! GROW UP CHILDREN, YOU AIN't PLAYIN' WITH LEGO ANYMORE
!! so shut down this thread and rather do a DONATION to devs, mix some air, or help older people on the street, just leave HTC and everyone else out !!!
i think that if HTC showed a little gratitute to their loyal customers it would just make them look better to the community (at least this community). without XDA htc would sell much less.. I bought HTC only because XDA exists.. and I was sure to get more value from my device this way than with any other brand.
HTC is well aware of this.. they know their business believe me...
maybe they're already helping developers undercover..hehehe.. who knows...
in this forum we all know that our next device will be android-powered anyway...
I love winmo.. i always had... but android is more advanced.. works good.. and has all the google goodies we all love...
HTC better take notice
I have been SCOURING the web for possible Motorola Bravo ROMs to no avail. I've read everything from the Bravo not possessing the correct files/firmware to the Bravo not having the lack of restriction needed. Point blank, I'm willing to put my phone up for experimental development to jump start this process for the world of Bravo users. I'm an employee of AT&T and I'm tired of the way we kill the freedom of this phone. It's time for the barriers to come down, point blank. Please, developers, feel free to contact me through this post if you are interested. I've heard about making dumb-files for the phone (I'm a moderate noob, to say the least). Therefore, I'm willing, with correct instruction, to create one of these system files to help out or whatever else may be needed.
Thanks
I just got a Bravo and love this guy! I prefer it over my Captivate and Aria. I'm all for some customization to come to this VERY underrated device.
same here. nothing has really been done with this phone. at least we could get 2.2? if nothing else
Hmm
http://community.developer.motorola...RAVO-development-resources-available/m-p/8304
BravoMotorola said:
http://community.developer.motorola...RAVO-development-resources-available/m-p/8304
Development recourses officially available for the Motorola Bravo!
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What does this mean for us Bravo owners, exactly? Thanks.
What it means?
Just makes it easier I think...if you a Motodev member! So, really nothing.
check out my new thread in this forum, i am porting bootstrap used on d2/dx/dpro to the bravo to get clockworkmod running and then we can get some roms!
Sorry if this is completely irrelevant in every way shape and form, but I'm from a community of people who own Samsung Wave smart phones who would really like to own an Android port due to the horrendous support for Bada by Samsung and complete and total lack of applications.
We have a working Froyo 2.2 port on the device which many have copied to their phones with success. A few developers have worked on it, Olek_k from XDA was working on it, passed it over to Rebellos. However, we currently have no working modem, camera or battery sensor and they are having trouble with Kernel development. Rebellos says that he thinks he's collected enough info to write a modem driver, but he is having problems with the kernel and the project has stalled. We've seen the amazing progress that has been made with this project, being passed down from person to person and there is a huge community of people who would like to experience android on their Bada handsets. I am no developer myself and a lot of us aren't, but the project has stalled and it'd be a real shame for so much progress to be lost. Do you know of anyone or are you yourself a developer of HD2 Android? All of us at badaforums.net and those in the Bada section at XDA are eager to see progress on the project. We do have developers, but they need aid in an area that they do not know well.
Please don't take this as a demanding request, I'm simply asking if you know of anyone who could help compile an android kernel (I'm not sure of the detail you'd have to ask the developers themselves) with the help of the current devs. We'd be hugely greatful if you could co-operate and help us out, because I know many who would absolutely adore android on their crippled Wave smartphones.
I sent a message similar to this to the admin of the Android ROMs site (http://android.hd2roms.com/) to see if they had any ideas about someone who could help. If you didn't know already, the wave is only available outside of the US, I don't know if anyone in the US can help with the development without the phone, you'd have to ask Rebellos or one of the other devs from the topic.
Below are some links where the discussions are;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118436&page=260
http://www.badaforums.net/forums/android-porting/porting-android-s8500-wave-t5464.html
I am a noob at XDA and I haven't tried the port myself as of yet, but I love my Wave and no one has made the jump to reach to the awesome HD2 porting community yet, so I thought I'd try.
Please contact me in this topic, via PM, or contact Rebellos or any of the other developers in the topic if you, or someone you know can help out.
Thanks very much, again, sorry if this is in the wrong place.
- Ross
+1 as a HD2 and Wave user. Help us please!
Damn, no one else has noticed the post :/
Oh well, I'll be patient and just hope that people aren't ignoring the post lol.
Pins, do you know of someone who was at the head of the project? I'm pretty clueless, I'll do some digging.
They will, just give them time.
You might want to consider getting the XDA admin's incharge of the news, to publish this, since this is really going to go un-noticed by the majority of developers. Some good might come out of it. All the best. I remembered waiting (and I am sure many other HD2 users too) for the Android port and then WP7 port for HD2... it seemed like a long wait, but eventually it is done
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They will, just give them time.
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Yeah man, thanks. I was just being impatient. Really don't want to come off as an arsehole because a lot of people in the bada-android forum got pissed due to trolls, when there are, infact a lot of people who are nice and genuine who are eager to see the port.
And I will have a look to see if I can do that erlern, but do you think they will really listen to someone with like, under 10 posts? xD I mean, they might, but however funny that noob video was, they don't seem to be particularly keen on them. We'll see.
erlern is right maybe its better to write the admins at news
Hi rayze! Erlern is right come to think of it, the admins handling the news section can post about this on the front page.
Also on the title of the post amend it to this "Help needed to build drivers into kernel" then maybe the developers of this thread may pay more attention too.
Also post this on the android development thread of HD2 since this is the Q&A section which has more to do with everyday use of the hd2.
bong4316 said:
Hi rayze! Erlern is right come to think of it, the admins handling the news section can post about this on the front page.
Also on the title of the post amend it to this "Help needed to build drivers into kernel" then maybe the developers of this thread may pay more attention too.
Also post this on the android development thread of HD2 since this is the Q&A section which has more to do with everyday use of the hd2.
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Advice taken my friend, will do all of that.
Have sent a request for the appeal to be posted in the news.
the ball seems to be rolling again :-D
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the ball seems to be rolling again :-D
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Well someone needed to try to get people's attention
No one else seemed to bother doing it, so I thought, why not. Don't think I've posted in HD2 main yet, but might have. Struggling to remember really.
Oh yeah, no I didn't because I need more posts xD I only have 7 lol.
Unfortunately us Wave modders are probably one of the smallest communities in this entire forum, we might get noticed, but it's getting people to help that will be the highest hurdle. It's a shame really, you'd expect many more people to buy this phone when you can pick it up now at cpw for £99.
I really respect how those developers devote so much time on making better software for our phones, and in most cases they just want a thank you at the end.
I am so happy to see this at the front page of XDA!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/help-get-android-fully-working-on-samsungs-bada-devices/
Really hope to see Android on Waves! Glad to have contributed in a small way Keep the faith guys!
erlern said:
I am so happy to see this at the front page of XDA!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/help-get-android-fully-working-on-samsungs-bada-devices/
Really hope to see Android on Waves! Glad to have contributed in a small way Keep the faith guys!
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Thanks for telling me man!
Spreading the news at Badaforums!
I will also now make a post in the main HD2 development section.
Hi guys,
I am trying to develop ROMs for Android. And I have developed one. This ROM is based on the stock HTC One ROM. Getting straight to the point, I need some Beta-Testers as I don't have the device with me. Sure, I'm gonna buy it soon. But in the meantime, I don't want to waste my precious time. SO< ANYONE INTERESTED? :highfive:
Thanks in advance.
Blind builds like what you did are not encouraged because it magnifies the chances of things to go wrong since you can't test the ROM yourself. Just a not of caution
pandaball said:
Blind builds like what you did are not encouraged because it magnifies the chances of things to go wrong since you can't test the ROM yourself. Just a not of caution
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yea. I know it is a blind build, but I didn't really do any huge modifications. Just some changes here and there. I have the build ready with me. I just need a guy to tell me surely that this build is safe to work upon further. That's because I am gonna resort to android development in future.
Short of sounding like a D-bag, what you're asking for is a little ridiculous. You sound like you're new to developing, new to the boards (Welcome btw) and don't have the device yourself. Its like asking a random person to test drive a car you just built by reading a "Build-it-yourself Car". If you had more credibility, i.e. More posts, past work, past examples of ROMs or even a list of what was "modified" in this ROM, people might step up to help.
V2IBH2V said:
Hi guys,
I am trying to develop ROMs for Android. And I have developed one. This ROM is based on the stock HTC One ROM. Getting straight to the point, I need some Beta-Testers as I don't have the device with me. Sure, I'm gonna buy it soon. But in the meantime, I don't want to waste my precious time. SO< ANYONE INTERESTED? :highfive:
Thanks in advance.
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what's so different with your rom and the roms already out ?
ant78 said:
what's so different with your rom and the roms already out ?
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Everyone's gotta start somewhere, even just doing this is good practice for him.
I'd test for ya op but I rely heavily on this phone and I'm s off. I'd advise any testers to be s on just to be extra safe
Sent from my Tricked out HTC One
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Everyone's gotta start somewhere, even just doing this is good practice for him.
I'd test for ya op but I rely heavily on this phone and I'm s off. I'd advise any testers to be s on just to be extra safe
Sent from my Tricked out HTC One
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I do agree you have to start somewhere. But he should get his own device and test it himself. That is better than just creating something that you don't even know it works.
Some "experienced" developers sometimes don't even own the device to create a custom ROM. But the key is that they are already experienced and would know how things work. But for someone who is starting out and have very little experience, they are better off doing the tesing themselves.
I bet he is not really a dev but more like a zip dev if you know what I mean.
OP.. please understand. Your new here, you have no proven track record, your asking people to entrust a €600 device to something that you have 1. not clearly laid out in your opening post 2. have no means to test yourself 3. can not provide support if you feck up other peoples devices.
Sorry but without any past experience here your trust level is 0.
Your request is akin to a nigerian ringing me and telling me I've won a multi-million € win and all they need is my bank account, and credit card info....
At least stick around here, get the device yourself, build up your reputation, and try a few things yourself and then clearly lay out what you have done in any further thread requesting testers because blind faith only goes so far......... unless you are indeed Jesus (or a nigerian with my mulit-million pound win)...
Wow.. so we can't waste his precious time. Lol
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
Hey hey hey! Please don't classify me as a ZIP dev..!
N yeah. Here's the change-log of my ROM(though it's not much):
1. Rooted
2. Busy-box added.
3. Changed the boot-animation a bit.
4. changed the power down animation a bit.
And' thats all.
V2IBH2V said:
Hey hey hey! Please don't classify me as a ZIP dev..!
N yeah. Here's the change-log of my ROM(though it's not much):
1. Rooted
2. Busy-box added.
3. Changed the boot-animation a bit.
4. changed the power down animation a bit.
And' thats all.
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I think everyone has to start somewhere, but I think the people are looking at stuff like what did you change in functionality not just cosmetics. Try playing around with build prop and stuff
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
Android The Greek said:
I think everyone has to start somewhere, but I think the people are looking at stuff like what did you change in functionality not just cosmetics. Try playing around with build prop and stuff
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
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Yeah, sure. I would work on this ROM further. But somebody has to test this adolescent ROM first, because it could happen that I work upon this ROM without testing it and then it would happen that it won't work. And then I could have to roll-back, only to start from scratch.
And that is why I'm asking you guys to test this out. I guarantee regular updates, fixes, etc.