So after this crappy update known as JI6 and terrible battery life (me and others have had..), I rooted my phone and started freezing and removing the crapware that T-Mobile and Samsung added to this phone. I have backed up all the apps I removed so I have them on my SD card.
My question is, when we get Froyo or whatever update does come next for us would it be wise to go back to stock? Remove root and put all the apps back? I read on the Android Forums that people were advising others to factory reset before doing the update. What do you guys say about this?
I personally would say go back to stock JI6 OTA. Otherwise you are risking bricking your phone like people did when JI6 came out.
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Is it simply doing a Factory Reset or is there more to it?
To be extra safe.. you could ODIN back to JFD, then ODIN JI6 and you should be good to go. That might be a little overkill since you haven't done that much to your phone.
Haha, yea I'm not that adventures to go in-depth and start tweaking settings and what not. I just want to go back to stock easily for the next update so I don't brick my phone.
The best way to odin it. I dont think factory reset help
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+1 vote for Odin to JDF then push Froyo when it comes out. There's nothing like the clean feeling of a freshly installed ROM....ahhhhh
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I've tried reading the sticky and the only thing it has done is confuse me.
I don't know what half the stuff they're talking about is, and that probably means unrooting is something I shouldn't be doing. But I really want the samsung apps, swype and other promoted features of the phone which won't be available when I get the "Rooted Samsung Vibrant 2.2" phone I bought.
Anyways, my question.
How would I get from Rooted Android 2.2 to Stock Android 2.1? (it can be rooted I just want the features, but unrooted would be preference I could use the one click root application)
Sorry, but I live in Canada and I want that phone so I can use it on AWS providers and well, It's just a complicated situation but the point is I bought a cheap vibrant on ebay that happened to be rooted with 2.2 but as you can see I want it on 2.1..
augh I should stop typing.
THANKS FOR THE HELP IN ADVANCE!!
So you want complete stock 2.1 with original firmware and everything? This sounds like a job for ODIN, go to the Bible sticky and find the thread on ODIN there. However, doing this will reset everything back to out-of-the-box status, meaning you lose all of your apps and data (contacts, media, etc).
And since you don't want to be rooted you can't make a backup and then reinstall all of your data and apps using Titanium Backup Pro, as you need root for that...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
look in here. The best way to do this would be to flash back to stock in Odin. Look for the Odin tutorials in that thread above. Hope you figure out how to do it. There are some videos and stuff that will help you, it won't be too hard.
If your ONLY reason for doing this is to get swype, samsung apps, and promoted features, I think what you are doing is a TERRIBLE idea. You would basically be downgrading the phone.
Lots of the new 2.2 Roms include ALL of the features you want but are faster, and can look better. I suggest you look into the Dev section at a few 2.2 ROMS before you make up your mind on this.
If you're DEADSET on getting complete locked stock, yes, use ODIN.
got this phone about 2 months ago.
went and did the the tutorial "HOW TO ROOT..." etc: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798064
when i did it, it told me to install voodoo so i did. I dont even know if i have voodoo4 or voodoo5.
luckily everything went fine.I came back to the site today just to see if there was anything new on here.
then i read this that was a response in the stickies: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869370
seems like voodoo sucks and i dont even really need it.
questions:
1)since i have voodoo on here, is there anything that I should NOT do?
2)how can i find out if i have 4 or 5
3)I went to the "completely remove voodoo" thread and at the top it says that it will wipe all my data off my phone if i remove it. WTF?? no contacts or apps??
4)someone said geekniks kernals are better. should i get rid of voodoo and get that instead? do i even need it?
5)what exactly is a rom
6)what is the benefits/dangers of putting on a rom like "superclean"(got the most votes)
7)can someone define what dj01 dj05 and dj09 are?? also define what adb is?
8) have there been any OTA updates? i havent gotten any notifications.
9)will going back to stock also erase all my data?
i know its a lot but i really need help. thank you!
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hey, at least it's in the general section..not development.
Voodoo is the greatest thing sense sliced bread... Far better than stock.. If your gonna just start flashing things based on other ppls opinions rather than a need or want of different functionalities. Then there is no reason for you to flash anything.. Until a need rises, or you research something that you feel will add to your experience. Stick with what you have..
Rocking dj05 and jt's voodoo 5
anyone else want to help?
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got this phone about 2 months ago.
3)I went to the "completely remove voodoo" thread and at the top it says that it will wipe all my data off my phone if i remove it. WTF?? no contacts or apps??
4)someone said geekniks kernals are better. should i get rid of voodoo and get that instead? do i even need it?
6)what is the benefits/dangers of putting on a rom like "superclean"(got the most votes)
7)can someone define what dj01 dj05 and dj09 are?? also define what adb is?
8) have there been any OTA updates? i havent gotten any notifications.
9)will going back to stock also erase all my data?
i know its a lot but i really need help. thank you!
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3. Yes it will remove all apps, contacts and data. You can always use Titanium Backup and restore later.
4. Its all about need and preference. All the devs work hard on all of their kernels. They are all good, it is what you need. I have not found a need yet so i am still running stock DL09 rooted and themed.
6. Benefits of putting a custom rom is user experience, AOSP rom will give you the closest experience to stock android that Samsung hasn't screwed with and made it worse.
7. The difference between these are updates pushed out from samsung and verizon. DJ05 was never released officially but the devs here made it work great. Fixed issues like GPS. They are all Maintenance releases though that are not necessary but usually helpful.
8. DI01 and DL09 are OTA updates. You did not get them because you are rooted and running a custom rom.
9. You pretty much asked in 3. But yes it will format to a stock image.
10. Do your research next time. All the info has been posted here in all of the threads, multiple times. I am more than willing to answer, but like everyone says, use the search button going forward.
11. As stated above you should not modify what you have unless you have a need for it or actually a use. My phone is rooted, themed, and modified in other various ways. My Wifes is bone stock and doesn't want me to touch it.(Even though she gets pissed off at the lag.) Always make a backup with Rom manager and Titanium Backup in case sh!t goes wrong.
Leave your phone as is.
BE HAPPY!!
Take two weeks to do a lot of reading before making anymore changes.
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8. DI01 and DL09 are OTA updates. You did not get them because you are rooted and running a custom rom.
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shouldnt i have at least gotten a verizon message telling me of the update?
how should i go about keeping my phone up to date now?
Dont I have to know which version I have before I put kernals and roms on here? How do i go about doing that?
my gps sux!
So I got the Vibrant the other day and for the most part I absolutely love the phone. Feels like I'm holding a light sabre or a magic wand. The thing is just so powerful. I have been reading up as much as possible on how to flash ROMs and root. A month ago I'd never even heard of this stuff and now I feel like I at least have a basic knowledge....just don't have the balls to attempt it yet. I want to make sure I know what I'm doing.
So in the meantime (while I work on growing a pair and actually doing it) I want to update to the Tmob 2.2 froyo official. I have read that if I do this I won't be able to get in download or recovery mode. Is this correct? And if this is correct then does that mean it will be impossible to flash roms after updating?
I just want a little performance boost and have my system a little snappier til I decide if I'm gonna flash some roms or not. Anyone know the answer?
Thanks fellas
If you can muster the balls to get the official 2.2, just flash team whiskey s bionix. Its better, easier, more reliable, better supported, and looks cooler. Don't be scared, follow directions and its easy!! GL!
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In all seriousness, you're far better off flashing the latest Bionix-v than you are the "official" 2.2. Having done both, you are far more likely to have an issue during the update process using that garbage mini Kies program than you are rooting and flashing. I rooted and flashed 4 different ROMS without issue. Then I used ODIN to go back to stock because I wanted to see the official release.
4 hours later I was able to get my phone back to a usable state. Between driver issues and crappy software (Kies), it just wasn't worth it. And after using my buddies Vibrant that was running the official release, it was way slower and less usable than most of the latest ROMS offered here.
You should root and then flash the latest Whiskey or Axura ROM and be done with it. The devs here have given us a far better experience and options on our phones than Samsung has.
Actually, the official 2.2 tmo update got rid of the hardware lock for me. I couldn't get into recovery or download mode out the box. The previous JI6 update through Kies mini didn't help. Since I am no longer hardware locked, I'll probably flash some roms. I am pretty dissappointed with this official update after that long wait.
I agree with the other comments that just getting one of the better/faster ROMs here is going to be what you want. As for your question about getting the "official" update and then being able to flash, that's what I did so it should work for you with just a little reading.
I disagree...I love team whiskey and all the other custom roms and even used them for a long time. But right now I have been using stock 2.2 ka7 with voodoo kernel and it is really fast and snappy. I like the stock look as well and haven't experienced any bugs or slowdowns since I installed this rom ...my suggestion: if you want stock....then read up a bit and Odin to ka7...mini lies is the worst program invented and it only flashes you to ka6
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Don't download the official! Take your time, read a lot, grow a pair and then execute! You'll be alright. confidence comes from research and doing. Everyone was nervous at one point.
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tmo throws people in jail for flashing custom roms making our phones super amazin and they dont want that so remember to odin back when u bring ur phone for warranty
Yaz75 said:
In all seriousness, you're far better off flashing the latest Bionix-v than you are the "official" 2.2. Having done both, you are far more likely to have an issue during the update process using that garbage mini Kies program than you are rooting and flashing. I rooted and flashed 4 different ROMS without issue. Then I used ODIN to go back to stock because I wanted to see the official release.
4 hours later I was able to get my phone back to a usable state. Between driver issues and crappy software (Kies), it just wasn't worth it. And after using my buddies Vibrant that was running the official release, it was way slower and less usable than most of the latest ROMS offered here.
You should root and then flash the latest Whiskey or Axura ROM and be done with it. The devs here have given us a far better experience and options on our phones than Samsung has.
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The only time you'll have an issue is if you're too dumb to turn on debug mode. And most of those people who are too dumb to do that were likely too dumb to read the threads where it was repeated ad nauseum to turn debug mode on...
Turn on Debug Mode
Update
Format Internal SD
Factory Reset
Enjoy.
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The only time you'll have an issue is if you're too dumb to turn on debug mode. And most of those people who are too dumb to do that were likely too dumb to read the threads where it was repeated ad nauseum to turn debug mode on...
Turn on Debug Mode
Update
Format Internal SD
Factory Reset
Enjoy.
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Well thank goodness you aren't talking about me because I did have debugging mode turned on! And then mini Kies started to update the firmware, then it decided to crap the bed at about 75% and turned the phone into a confused jumble of uselessness.
But I guess you were there so I'll let you tell everyone how I recovered it.
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tmo throws people in jail for flashing custom roms making our phones super amazin and they dont want that so remember to odin back when u bring ur phone for warranty
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What the heck are you talking about?!
So thanks to some of the competent answers from guys in here and a leap of faith and trusting my extensive research (I read way too many threads about rooting, flashing, odin, custom roms, etc..), I am now rooted and have backed up my system. To be honest I'm almost just happy with that. While completeing this process I ran into a few questions that I didn't have the answer for mainly revolving around wheter to reboot or reinstall from recovery mode whether it be clockwork or samsung.
I posted a question in the Q and A forum about it (so I apologize for the kinda double post but this is more of a update on my progress) but whats the deal with update.zip file? I don't know when to reinstall it from recovery and when to delete it once the phone has booted. Should I delete it every time I have booted back up or does it even matter?
Thanks guys. I'm the kind of guy that, once I have the knowledge I am just as willing to share. Hopefully a year from now I'll be in your shoes and able to help others.
Next up after the update.zip question is resolved in my mind I plan to flash to bionix v. Official froyo 2.2 be damned lol
You use Clockwork Recovery to backup or flash anything. Sometimes you will get the Samsung recovery and you'll need to select reinstall packages to get to Clockwork. Sometimes you'll even need to reinstall packages twice.
Leave the update.zip on your sd. That's a necessary file for Clockwork.
If this has already been answered I apologize. I am looking for the stock files to flash in Odin for the Continuum in case of disaster. I am going to root my wifes phone to remove the bloatware and if there is one thing I learned with my fascinate is those files are priceless. Anyone know where I can get the stock files to start over is I need to?
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If this has already been answered I apologize. I am looking for the stock files to flash in Odin for the Continuum in case of disaster. I am going to root my wifes phone to remove the bloatware and if there is one thing I learned with my fascinate is those files are priceless. Anyone know where I can get the stock files to start over is I need to?
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We have some odin files, but they're untested. They are also rooted :-/
If we can get someone to test our DJ20 odin files, then I'm sure someone can figure out how to remove root from them.
dfgged said:
We have some odin files, but they're untested. They are also rooted :-/
If we can get someone to test our DJ20 odin files, then I'm sure someone can figure out how to remove root from them.
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I got a stock ROM and kernel from imnuts; would that be the same ones you have?
I flashed that stock ROM and kernel using ODIN on my continuum (which was previously bricked by too much tinkering), and everything works on the phone except for cell data (well, I haven't tested bluetooth on it). If you have different images, I'd be happy to try them out and let you know how it goes.
I also will probably try re-flashing them again just to see if it comes out differently.
-h
yaheath said:
I got a stock ROM and kernel from imnuts; would that be the same ones you have?
I flashed that stock ROM and kernel using ODIN on my continuum (which was previously bricked by too much tinkering), and everything works on the phone except for cell data (well, I haven't tested bluetooth on it). If you have different images, I'd be happy to try them out and let you know how it goes.
I also will probably try re-flashing them again just to see if it comes out differently.
-h
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That's where I got my images from I here someone may be working to get an official Odin package for you guys though
That's good, if it were my phone I would run some tests, but my wife has seen me brick my phone so many times she is scared to hand me her phone
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Your best bet would be FREEZING your bloatware with Titanium backup PRO to see if you encounter any negative side-effects. If so all you have to do is unfreeze. I freeze apps I don't want and after a week (after backing up) I'll go ahead and fully uninstall them. One at a time, so if **** hits the fan, you know what to restore...
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Given that there's no way to reflash the factory image, is it still safe to remove all the AT&T bloat using Titanium Backup? Right now I have all the AT&T bloatware frozen and it doesn't impact anything, but I just want to if it'll change if I completely uninstall the AT&T programs i.e. My Locker, Blurb Checkout, etc. Would this impact my ability to receive firmware updates or unroot and reset the handset? I should mention I'm probably going to be selling the phone when the Nexus 5 comes out so I still want to be able to unroot and factory reset (as long as it can reset, it doesn't bother me if the AT&T bloatware is gone).
I guess that depends on what you mean by "safe."
I removed almost all of the AT&T stuff except for the update service and the hotspot app, and I know I'll never miss them even without a recovery option.
If you need a recovery option, then probably best to not remove anything and use Safestrap to experiment with other roms.
Don't delete it, freeze it. That way if you mess something up you can defrost it.
If your on MF3 I wouldn't touch anything and just use safestrap.
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There is always risk.
I learned the hard way... I touched too much stuff with Tibu on my stock ROM and it doesn't even work anymore. I can't do anything with it... luckily I have safestrap still until they release an mf3 factory image for Odin or kies I can't do anything with my stock ROM.
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jd1639 said:
Don't delete it, freeze it. That way if you mess something up you can defrost it.
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This
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I removed all att and samsung bloat except for watch on and several services. We should put a list together of safe package to remove.
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I learned the hard way... I touched too much stuff with Tibu on my stock ROM and it doesn't even work anymore. I can't do anything with it... luckily I have safestrap still until they release an mf3 factory image for Odin or kies I can't do anything with my stock ROM.
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About the time you posted this last night I was freezing apps. Apparently too many. Phone will not boot past the at&t logo now. I can still boot into my custom rom slot 1 so I'm not at a total loss, but would really like to know if there is anyway to replace/defrost those frozen apps on the stock ROM via the ADB terminal running on my custom ROM. Seems like you could just copy and overwrite the package files on the stock ROM... Which leads me to my ultimate question of what does TiBackup Freeze option actually do? Uninstalling would remove the app and files from the system completely so since they are still present it seems there would be some sort of a control file that you could edit manually to defrost the app(s) in question.
Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
I've read a few times that best buy can do a factory restore, yet every time someone says they are going to ask their "friend" at best buy for the method/procedure for the restore they drop off the grid... Is this a possibility?
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jd1639 said:
Don't delete it, freeze it. That way if you mess something up you can defrost it.
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As long as you don't reboot it =)
Can you defrost it if you have rebooted and now you can't get past the at&t boot logo?
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I removed all att and samsung bloat except for watch on and several services. We should put a list together of safe package to remove.
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I don't recall the urls but there are already a few in-depth lists of safe bloatware to remove from our phones..
@xda_n I'm not too sure I'm still researching on this, but haven't really been actively looking for it. Not in a rush really because I'm not going to sell my phone or anything so I'm just going to wait on Samsung to release the mf3 file via Odin or kies. I'm just using vision-x and shostock which is giving me better battery and performance than stock and still have stock feel so I'm not in too much of a rush to fix my stock ROM yet. My stock ROM would boot but it would say com.android. something and it'll freeze. I accidently tried to do a factory reset after deleting all the apps via tibu so I couldn't recover any files I saved and froze so i learned my lesson and don't want to deal with best buy right now.
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MD5.tar!!!
I'm not sure if you guys found this thread or not, but I'm so thankful, I decided to pay it forward and share it. PERFECTO.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502003