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Downgrading from Rooted 2.2 to Stock 2.1?!

I've tried reading the sticky and the only thing it has done is confuse me.
I don't know what half the stuff they're talking about is, and that probably means unrooting is something I shouldn't be doing. But I really want the samsung apps, swype and other promoted features of the phone which won't be available when I get the "Rooted Samsung Vibrant 2.2" phone I bought.
Anyways, my question.
How would I get from Rooted Android 2.2 to Stock Android 2.1? (it can be rooted I just want the features, but unrooted would be preference I could use the one click root application)
Sorry, but I live in Canada and I want that phone so I can use it on AWS providers and well, It's just a complicated situation but the point is I bought a cheap vibrant on ebay that happened to be rooted with 2.2 but as you can see I want it on 2.1..
augh I should stop typing.
THANKS FOR THE HELP IN ADVANCE!!

So you want complete stock 2.1 with original firmware and everything? This sounds like a job for ODIN, go to the Bible sticky and find the thread on ODIN there. However, doing this will reset everything back to out-of-the-box status, meaning you lose all of your apps and data (contacts, media, etc).
And since you don't want to be rooted you can't make a backup and then reinstall all of your data and apps using Titanium Backup Pro, as you need root for that...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
look in here. The best way to do this would be to flash back to stock in Odin. Look for the Odin tutorials in that thread above. Hope you figure out how to do it. There are some videos and stuff that will help you, it won't be too hard.

If your ONLY reason for doing this is to get swype, samsung apps, and promoted features, I think what you are doing is a TERRIBLE idea. You would basically be downgrading the phone.
Lots of the new 2.2 Roms include ALL of the features you want but are faster, and can look better. I suggest you look into the Dev section at a few 2.2 ROMS before you make up your mind on this.
If you're DEADSET on getting complete locked stock, yes, use ODIN.

[Q] A number of questions surround VooDoo and unstalling/reinstalling

So I just installed the VooDoo lagfix from the Rom Manager. This is the first time I've ever done anything involving CWM, flashing kernels, etc. The most I had done before was rooting my phone. Fortunately, all goes well, except that I discover after booting that I no longer have vibration/haptic feedback. After googling I find that it's because of a bug in the new version of lagfix? So I actually have a couple questions:
1. Is VooDoo lagfix different from the VooDoo kernel? Can you have one without the other? Did I install a full voodoo kernel or just a fix?
2. What do I need to do before installing an older version of lagfix so I can get vibration back? Do I need to remove what I installed or just disable it via the disable_lagfix file like I've seen mentioned? Is there a difference between uninstalling and just disabling?
3. Where can I get said older version of lagfix? As I said, I just used Rom Manager, which I assume automatically downloads the latest version.
Also, after reverting to an older version of lagfix and fixing vibration, I would like to try flashing a custom ROM, particularly Super-Clean, and that brings me back to my first question. Is there anything I need to do before flashing a new ROM, or am I good to just download+install from the ROM manager?
Apologies in advance for what may seem like stupid/noob questions, but I've tried searching and reading several How-To's from this forum and others, and I'm still left with a lot of questions about this sort of thing in general. I just want to make extra sure I fully understand what I'm doing so I don't screw anything up. Thanks in advance for any help.

Those sure are a lot of questions. Voodoo lagfix comes in a kernel, they are inseparable. Also, I don't think you lost vibration from a bug but because the newest Voodoo is for DJ05 and I'm fairly sure you're running DI01.
And disabling and uninstalling are very different. Once you install the lagfix kernel it's there until you uninstall it. Disabling it will simply allow you to flash things in CWM or RM without running into issues. But if you want to completely remove voodoo you must uninstall it, which a nice big guide in the stickie section can tell you how to do.
This leads to your next point. If you want to install ROMs or themes make sure you disable lagfix FIRST or you'll get into all kinds of trouble. It's also good practice to wipe data/cache before installing any ROM.
Hope this helps.
Sent from my Voodoo Fascinate

not to be a ****...but people please read what voodoo is/does before blindly flashing it...this is getting ridiculous

What's a voodoo?

Thrillhouse847 said:
Also, I don't think you lost vibration from a bug but because the newest Voodoo is for DJ05 and I'm fairly sure you're running DI01.
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This is exactly what happened.
I've upgraded to DJ05, and it's quite stable, so I'm happy. I'm running a nonvoodoo kernel right now though.

nitsuj17 said:
not to be a ****...but people please read what voodoo is/does before blindly flashing it...this is getting ridiculous
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I read a multitude of how-to's on this forum and others and did a good bit of research before diving in. I did not "blindly flash" it. Excuse me for not being 100% clear on everything and, god forbid, coming here to ask for some clarification.

It would be better that you come here before the flash for clarification.
Yeah? yeah. I've got three people with dead phones on their hands right now because they were flash happy.

Droid 2 Update from 2.3.20 to 3.0.0

looks like 3.0.0 is out heres the link:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/12/2...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+DroidLife+(droid+life)
anyone try it out yet?

yea it works fine, root still works. Blur is still blur but its a little smoother and profiles is a good addition.

Quite possibly the ugliest launcher I've ever seen.

cool. yeah i must have heard that a million times. so if you do a back up are you able to just flash back to it? or do you have to sbf?

Safe bet would be SBFing. I don't see why restoring a previous backup would mess it up, but it might bootloop you.

It doesn't change the kernel does it? That would be the only way you would seriously **** something up by restoring a backup.

Don't think I would drop GummyJAR ROM for this "new blur".

It does install a new kernel. I made a backup in clockwork, flashed this and have gone back to my backup without issue.

It doesn't look like it changes the baseband, anyone who has installed this have you checked your bootloader version and kernel version? Anyone been able to SBF back after installing this?

Droidlife tested the 2.3.20 sbf and said it does work. Personally I'm gonna stick with custom roms on mine, I'm not having any issues and I can't stand any version of blur and its lag.
Sent from my DROID2 using Tapatalk

Write permissions - better method to root?
How does one go about getting root to set RW on the app dir? I have Root Explorer installed and running as SU...but I can't change to rename some of the stupid stock .apks.
FYI - I used Tears of a 1000 Unicorns to gain root.
Thanks!
Landlocked
PS: This ROM, as is, plays Xvid backups of your public domain video files!

the last two days have been "rom trial days" ..i loaded the new gummy, really liked it, then, after reading about the 3.0, i loaded & tried it. it really has a few nice things about it...but, decided this morning to go back to fission,,,,which i did, and "lost" the 3.0 upgrade..
but, knowing these guys, we'll soon have both gummy & fission w/the 3.0 update, so, Thank You Gentlemen for all your hard work...and, hey, do you remember the days when you used a phone to talk with? Wheeeeeeeeeeee

jones7773 said:
the last two days have been "rom trial days" ..i loaded the new gummy, really liked it, then, after reading about the 3.0, i loaded & tried it. it really has a few nice things about it...but, decided this morning to go back to fission,,,,which i did, and "lost" the 3.0 upgrade..
but, knowing these guys, we'll soon have both gummy & fission w/the 3.0 update, so, Thank You Gentlemen for all your hard work...and, hey, do you remember the days when you used a phone to talk with? Wheeeeeeeeeeee
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I'll continue waiting for Team Defuse to tear this one apart. I tried dealing with Blur again the other day, and I just can't stand it. It likes batteries.

I have been trying it out for the past few days and it seems alot better. Much smoother, I like the new swype design, has a built in task manager, profiles, a few other little things and the battery life is really good. I still run launcher pro over the stock blur but even that seems to run better.
Sent from my DROID2 using XDA App

jones7773 said:
hey, do you remember the days when you used a phone to talk with? Wheeeeeeeeeeee
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Haha, i got a kick out of this. Yea those days seem so long ago I can barely recall them.
On another note it looks like the kernel might have been update as its a slightly different number than the one on my phone. Anyone know if anything has changed for better or worse with it?

I have a question.....is this gingerbread?
Thx!

TDianna said:
I have a question.....is this gingerbread?
Thx!
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No. Its the v3.0 of the motorola blur firmware (you are likely running v2.3.20 right now) and its basically a modified version of the Froyo 2.2 Android. In your phone info you will System version and Android version. This is a system update, not an android update.

landlocked said:
How does one go about getting root to set RW on the app dir? I have Root Explorer installed and running as SU...but I can't change to rename some of the stupid stock .apks.
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I got it to work somehow. I'm guessing the various insignificant attempts and reboots solved something. I like the ROM a lot after getting rid of the usual bloatware.

Thanks for your help....Merry Christmas!

has anyone tried this and then gone back to a saved backup?

[Q] Rooted Fascinate ended up with incorrect kernel... *sigh*

It's really a shame to start off in a place with a post that has someone mad at themselves for performing a soft brick on their relatively new Verizon Samsung Fascinate. I have to admit I love the phone, but after seeing some videos about DarkyMod I was so impressed I felt compelled to try it.
All I've done, far as I know, is Rooted the phone, but I also used Odin and apparently flashed the incorrect kernel. So what happens now is when I power on my Fascinate, I get a Galaxy S (GT-i9000) screen. At this point, the phone reboots. I know I'm an idiot for having used the wrong Odin kernel, but after attempting to decipher the post in the Darky's installation for "first timers" I apparently choose the incorrect kernel.
At any rate, I suppose I could ask for an experienced modder for the right kernel, the one that would allow me to perform the flash after I had installed the ROM Manager, etc.. But I doubt that would help. What I'm looking for is a file which has been removed from the forums here, and was originally in someone's Dropbox account.
I believe that the file that I'm looking for is the "Stock-i500-VZW-Kernel.tar.md5"... I might be incorrect, as I had mentioned I believed I had successfully "rooted" the phone, but when I used Odin to flash the kernel, I think that's where I went wrong. Can anyone help me find this file? Or should I get the modified kernel, which will allow me to perform the backups and then the flashing to this mod? Thanks ahead of time, I do apologize for the length of the post.
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T.C.
Samsung Fascinate (Verizon) DL09

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867648
thats full d101 thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885262
thats full dj05 thread
both should be able to get you back to stock through odin then you can restart what you did. personally i keep both handy since i already had to use them due to an error that cause the phone to freeze up completely at the samsung logo. hope that helps

Thank you kdaz!
I'll give that download a shot real fast and see what happens. I'm assuming you've modded/rooted your Samsung Fascinate? Which of those Odin kernels did you use to successfully start changing things? I never did get past the "update.zip" part, it always came back with an error.
Thanks for taking the time to write a response, I really feel bad to post and have my first ever be a soft bricked phone, haha!

Quick thank you...
After looking all over the forums here, and elsewhere... I did find what I was looking for, though I didn't manage to restore the kernel and save my settings, I did unbrick the phone by reapplying the DL01 firmware with the Odin software. The forums here were a huge help, and I just wanted to say thanks!

haha glad you got it working. yes i have rooted and modded mine. got it last thursday brand new and was modding it on friday when i got back from vacation. friday night i feared that i had totally bricked it but luckily found both of those files on the forums. i believe i used the dl05 one then imediately updated to the dl09 radio and now running blaze voodoo kernel clocked at 1.2ghz and i honestly forget what rom lol waiting to use aosp

Thank god these phones are so easy to unbrick with Odin. Almost impossible to truly brick, though sometimes you might lose some data here and there or it won't save your data etc. That's why you might need to odin the full stock rom more than once

Thanks for the responses guys, kudos!
I had really hoped to start using Darky's ROM but it turned out that I didn't have the right modem file, or at least, that's what Darky said. At any rate I was kind of curious which custom ROMs you guys are using and why? The names alone should be sufficient, there's so much information here on these forums.
I admit I'm worried to reflash but at the same time, I know how to do it and if something goes wrong I just use Odin and apply DL01, or whatever the original ROM is called. Any thoughts about good and fast custom ROMs on the VZW Fascinate, guys?

Look for the full DL09 Odin, DI01 is really old and DJ05 was killed inside VZ before it was ever released to the general public.
As you have discovered, the Fascinate is its own animal and you cannot flash stuff made for other Galaxy S phones to it unless you feel like breaking your phone on purpose. Most of us are running one derivative or another of DL09 that has been hacked up in various ways to remove the stock bloatware, add root/themes, add new functionality into the kernel, etc. Some of us are using AOSP or CyanogenMod froyo-based roms which (still) have many/most things broken. We are finally about to have official updates to 2.2 and that is the missing piece that was needed to get full custom development working. Big changes will be coming before we know it.

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I had just read earlier that there was a Froyo leak, I'll be really curious to see whether or not it speeds things up or not. It sounds like the custom ROMs are here for our VZW Fascinate but what I'm really looking (and waiting for like everyone else) is just Froyo. I'm grateful to everyone here who reached out and helped.
I'm not sure if my rooting days are done, but I got pretty scared when I thought I'd bricked this thing. Can't thank you guys, and the community, enough.

im currently running OTB ul1300 kernel which has the voltage turned down and processor speed of 1.3ghz and im currently running the dl09 supah clean rom. was running kaoscinate yesterday but missed being able to use my camera. the flashablility of this phone is great..i love just switching roms and kernels almost completely at will. cant wait until they get the leaked froyo out to use but im enjoying trying everything else until then.

tclore77 said:
I had just read earlier that there was a Froyo leak, I'll be really curious to see whether or not it speeds things up or not.
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If you really want a boost in your phone speed, you should look into getting custom ROMs and kernels, not Froyo. There are a bunch of kernels out there that are overclocked (and even undervolted, to save battery life too) that will significantly improve your performance.
The best thing you can do with your phone is to get yourself a custom ROM - something like Blackhole 3.0 by sonofskywalker or SuperClean 0.4. Those will get rid of the bloatware crap that Verizon puts on your phone, and (more importantly) change the default search from that P.O.S. Bing back to Google.

Consequences to updating to Tmobiles 2.2 froyo official

So I got the Vibrant the other day and for the most part I absolutely love the phone. Feels like I'm holding a light sabre or a magic wand. The thing is just so powerful. I have been reading up as much as possible on how to flash ROMs and root. A month ago I'd never even heard of this stuff and now I feel like I at least have a basic knowledge....just don't have the balls to attempt it yet. I want to make sure I know what I'm doing.
So in the meantime (while I work on growing a pair and actually doing it) I want to update to the Tmob 2.2 froyo official. I have read that if I do this I won't be able to get in download or recovery mode. Is this correct? And if this is correct then does that mean it will be impossible to flash roms after updating?
I just want a little performance boost and have my system a little snappier til I decide if I'm gonna flash some roms or not. Anyone know the answer?
Thanks fellas

If you can muster the balls to get the official 2.2, just flash team whiskey s bionix. Its better, easier, more reliable, better supported, and looks cooler. Don't be scared, follow directions and its easy!! GL!
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

In all seriousness, you're far better off flashing the latest Bionix-v than you are the "official" 2.2. Having done both, you are far more likely to have an issue during the update process using that garbage mini Kies program than you are rooting and flashing. I rooted and flashed 4 different ROMS without issue. Then I used ODIN to go back to stock because I wanted to see the official release.
4 hours later I was able to get my phone back to a usable state. Between driver issues and crappy software (Kies), it just wasn't worth it. And after using my buddies Vibrant that was running the official release, it was way slower and less usable than most of the latest ROMS offered here.
You should root and then flash the latest Whiskey or Axura ROM and be done with it. The devs here have given us a far better experience and options on our phones than Samsung has.

Actually, the official 2.2 tmo update got rid of the hardware lock for me. I couldn't get into recovery or download mode out the box. The previous JI6 update through Kies mini didn't help. Since I am no longer hardware locked, I'll probably flash some roms. I am pretty dissappointed with this official update after that long wait.

I agree with the other comments that just getting one of the better/faster ROMs here is going to be what you want. As for your question about getting the "official" update and then being able to flash, that's what I did so it should work for you with just a little reading.

I disagree...I love team whiskey and all the other custom roms and even used them for a long time. But right now I have been using stock 2.2 ka7 with voodoo kernel and it is really fast and snappy. I like the stock look as well and haven't experienced any bugs or slowdowns since I installed this rom ...my suggestion: if you want stock....then read up a bit and Odin to ka7...mini lies is the worst program invented and it only flashes you to ka6
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Don't download the official! Take your time, read a lot, grow a pair and then execute! You'll be alright. confidence comes from research and doing. Everyone was nervous at one point.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

tmo throws people in jail for flashing custom roms making our phones super amazin and they dont want that so remember to odin back when u bring ur phone for warranty

Yaz75 said:
In all seriousness, you're far better off flashing the latest Bionix-v than you are the "official" 2.2. Having done both, you are far more likely to have an issue during the update process using that garbage mini Kies program than you are rooting and flashing. I rooted and flashed 4 different ROMS without issue. Then I used ODIN to go back to stock because I wanted to see the official release.
4 hours later I was able to get my phone back to a usable state. Between driver issues and crappy software (Kies), it just wasn't worth it. And after using my buddies Vibrant that was running the official release, it was way slower and less usable than most of the latest ROMS offered here.
You should root and then flash the latest Whiskey or Axura ROM and be done with it. The devs here have given us a far better experience and options on our phones than Samsung has.
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The only time you'll have an issue is if you're too dumb to turn on debug mode. And most of those people who are too dumb to do that were likely too dumb to read the threads where it was repeated ad nauseum to turn debug mode on...
Turn on Debug Mode
Update
Format Internal SD
Factory Reset
Enjoy.

N8ter said:
The only time you'll have an issue is if you're too dumb to turn on debug mode. And most of those people who are too dumb to do that were likely too dumb to read the threads where it was repeated ad nauseum to turn debug mode on...
Turn on Debug Mode
Update
Format Internal SD
Factory Reset
Enjoy.
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Well thank goodness you aren't talking about me because I did have debugging mode turned on! And then mini Kies started to update the firmware, then it decided to crap the bed at about 75% and turned the phone into a confused jumble of uselessness.
But I guess you were there so I'll let you tell everyone how I recovered it.

bartek25 said:
tmo throws people in jail for flashing custom roms making our phones super amazin and they dont want that so remember to odin back when u bring ur phone for warranty
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What the heck are you talking about?!

So thanks to some of the competent answers from guys in here and a leap of faith and trusting my extensive research (I read way too many threads about rooting, flashing, odin, custom roms, etc..), I am now rooted and have backed up my system. To be honest I'm almost just happy with that. While completeing this process I ran into a few questions that I didn't have the answer for mainly revolving around wheter to reboot or reinstall from recovery mode whether it be clockwork or samsung.
I posted a question in the Q and A forum about it (so I apologize for the kinda double post but this is more of a update on my progress) but whats the deal with update.zip file? I don't know when to reinstall it from recovery and when to delete it once the phone has booted. Should I delete it every time I have booted back up or does it even matter?
Thanks guys. I'm the kind of guy that, once I have the knowledge I am just as willing to share. Hopefully a year from now I'll be in your shoes and able to help others.
Next up after the update.zip question is resolved in my mind I plan to flash to bionix v. Official froyo 2.2 be damned lol

You use Clockwork Recovery to backup or flash anything. Sometimes you will get the Samsung recovery and you'll need to select reinstall packages to get to Clockwork. Sometimes you'll even need to reinstall packages twice.
Leave the update.zip on your sd. That's a necessary file for Clockwork.