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Doesn't SetCPU overclocks our device? I heard constantly overclocking your device will kill it less in a year. Is this true?
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HeavyComponent said:
Doesn't SetCPU overclocks our device? I heard constantly overclocking your device will kill it less in a year. Is this true?
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I used setcpu on my g1 (overclocked from 384mhz to 528mhz) for almost the whole time i had it and it didnt do any damage. The overclocking on snapdragons is more of a wait and see as no one has overclocked a snapdragon for that long but its HIGHLY unlikely that it will kill your cpu that quickly (ive been overclocking devices for years and never seen it happen). Leo users dont need to worry about overclocking with setcpu as it hasn't been enabled in the kernel we are using so the only thing setcpu is good for is underclocking and setting profiles.
So once it is enabled in our Kernel that's when we should be worried? What's the worse that can happen?
Thanks for the reply.
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HeavyComponent said:
So once it is enabled in our Kernel that's when we should be worried? What's the worse that can happen?
Thanks for the reply.
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I dont think we should, people on the n1 have been doing it for months and i havent seen any posts of things going wrong and even if it is enabled in the kernel you can choose weather to use it or not via apps like set cpu
JJbdoggg said:
I dont think we should, people on the n1 have been doing it for months and i havent seen any posts of things going wrong and even if it is enabled in the kernel you can choose weather to use it or not via apps like set cpu
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It will cause lower battery life!
hazard99 said:
It will cause lower battery life!
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if you choose to use it.
JJbdoggg said:
if you choose to use it.
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I know I use it to underclock. I was just saying. I actually use it as a means of making the battery last. and also the reaction time at which the cpu scales.
JJbdoggg said:
I used setcpu on my g1 (overclocked from 384mhz to 528mhz) for almost the whole time i had it and it didnt do any damage. The overclocking on snapdragons is more of a wait and see as no one has overclocked a snapdragon for that long but its HIGHLY unlikely that it will kill your cpu that quickly (ive been overclocking devices for years and never seen it happen). Leo users dont need to worry about overclocking with setcpu as it hasn't been enabled in the kernel we are using so the only thing setcpu is good for is underclocking and setting profiles.
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So if I understand this correctly, setcpu does nothing to improve performance as far as Device speed?
dbiggss said:
So if I understand this correctly, setcpu does nothing to improve performance as far as Device speed?
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A faster cpu is generally a speed increase and at certain points the gains are null. so its usually a small mhz boost.
dbiggss said:
So if I understand this correctly, setcpu does nothing to improve performance as far as Device speed?
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it does, keeping the device at 1ghz (998mhz in our case) at all times will provide better performance than scaling from 245mhz to 1ghz. read here for more info http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/
hazard99 said:
I know I use it to underclock. I was just saying. I actually use it as a means of making the battery last. and also the reaction time at which the cpu scales.
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i use it for those reasons too
Hey,
So I'm on the fence about perma rooting and over clocking my G2, but i have a few questions:
1) Will my battery life suffer greatly due to over clocking say to 1Ghz or 1.4Ghz?
2) Are there any real world noticeable real world performance gains besides benchmark scores?
3) Will perma-Rooting it decrease performance? (Back when i had the mytouch 3g, the phone never felt as snappy after i rooted and installed custom roms, as compared to stock).
Thanks
1) battery life is the same if not better when overclocked with setcpu in ondemand mode at 245/1100mhz
2) there is a definite performance increase
3) custom roms can decrease performance depending on the rom and ui (sense is a bit heavy). Just simply rooting will not decrease performance. Also, CM6.1 is super snappy, especially using Launcher42
DO IT!
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thedarkpassenger said:
1) battery life is the same if not better when overclocked with setcpu in ondemand mode at 245/1100mhz
2) there is a definite performance increase
3) custom roms can decrease performance depending on the rom and ui (sense is a bit heavy). Just simply rooting will not decrease performance. Also, CM6.1 is super snappy, especially using Launcher42
DO IT!
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Launcher42? that's a heck lot of upgrade from Launcher2 I'd like to check it out
but he's right overclocking is not going to eat up your battery much. Heavy graphic ROMs do however suck up battery and performance. I personally like to stick to rooted stock roms and tune up here and there to fit my personal needs.
You should however read carefully and make sure to understand every steps you're doing if you want to root your phone.
androidtoy09 said:
Launcher42? that's a heck lot of upgrade from Launcher2 I'd like to check it out
but he's right overclocking is not going to eat up your battery much. Heavy graphic ROMs do however suck up battery and performance. I personally like to stick to rooted stock roms and tune up here and there to fit my personal needs.
You should however read carefully and make sure to understand every steps you're doing if you want to root your phone.
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thedarkpassenger said:
1) battery life is the same if not better when overclocked with setcpu in ondemand mode at 245/1100mhz
2) there is a definite performance increase
3) custom roms can decrease performance depending on the rom and ui (sense is a bit heavy). Just simply rooting will not decrease performance. Also, CM6.1 is super snappy, especially using Launcher42
DO IT!
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Alright I'm going to give it a shot later tonight probably, i forgot about the SETCPU profiles where you can have the phone under clocked while the screen is off. That should definitely give me better battery life. Ill be back to post results
kcm117 said:
Alright I'm going to give it a shot later tonight probably, i forgot about the SETCPU profiles where you can have the phone under clocked while the screen is off. That should definitely give me better battery life. Ill be back to post results
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Good luck and I'm sure you will enjoy your G2.
Oh, and don't forget to show it off to your friends. Let them see how this thing "Fly"
I oc to 1.4+ with setcpu and a few profiles set up i get much better bat life then stock. Im also running a sense rom which feels sluggish until you oc. At 1.4 it runs smooth as can be with live wallpapers plus all the pretty sense animations. The only problem i have is i hate the sense dialer and msg system also i want to change the "personalise" tab....do people really change theyre settings everyday that they need a dedicated button for it? Anyway i digress
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Excuse me, since when does increasing the clockspeed of your CPU INCREASE battery life?!
convolution said:
Excuse me, since when does increasing the clockspeed of your CPU INCREASE battery life?!
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No, that's not entirely true BUT with SetCPU you can profile it with different mode which can benefit the battery life.
kcm117 said:
Hey,
So I'm on the fence about perma rooting and over clocking my G2, but i have a few questions:
1) Will my battery life suffer greatly due to over clocking say to 1Ghz or 1.4Ghz?
2) Are there any real world noticeable real world performance gains besides benchmark scores?
3) Will perma-Rooting it decrease performance? (Back when i had the mytouch 3g, the phone never felt as snappy after i rooted and installed custom roms, as compared to stock).
Thanks
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I don't notice any difference in battery and I have the 1.9ghz kernel. I normally keep it at 1ghz though. I enjoy it overclocked. My games run incredibly smooth, when navigating my phone it literally almost feels like it knows what i'm pressing a split second before i do and benchmarks rape the face off anyone else I know with an android phone. It's just sooo smooth. It really boils down to being the kind of person who likes to hold a powerhouse of a phone in the palm of their hand. (Literally) with even just the 1.4ghz OC you'll never have to ask yourself "can my phone run this without being sluggish?" because the answer is yes, it can probably even run two or three instances of whatever made you question yourself in the first place without being sluggish. Any if you're worried about custom roms from the past, just remember how outdated your old android is compared to this one. No offense because I can relate, I used to have a G1 that is now a hand-me-down to my brother and whenever he asks me to mod something on it, I'm just amazed at how slow it is and really don't know how I tolerated it for the last 2 years. I mean I'd score a 150 quadrant on the G1 (on a good day) but with my full OC on, the G2 scores 3000~3100. That's roughly 20 times faster...
Bottom line is that you won't need to worry about "will this make my device sluggish?" for quite some time.
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Alright guys i got the phone perma rooted now, but i havent installed an OC kernel yet, two questions.
-Which kernal should i install if i want 1.4Ghz? there seems to be two threads with 1.4ghz kernels
-Do i need to install Bacon Bits for the kernel?
kcm117 said:
Alright guys i got the phone perma rooted now, but i havent installed an OC kernel yet, two questions.
-Which kernal should i install if i want 1.4Ghz? there seems to be two threads with 1.4ghz kernels
-Do i need to install Bacon Bits for the kernel?
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just install cm6.1 and setCPU and you will be fine, then you can tweak it up to 1.42 if you like or whatever you want it at
Any heat related issues? Let's say I get into a zone and play some graphics intensive game 6 hours straight on USB power at 1.4Ghz? Wouldn't that put out more heat then the G2 was design to handle possibly shortening its life span?
convolution said:
Excuse me, since when does increasing the clockspeed of your CPU INCREASE battery life?!
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It doesn't. However, overclocking is misnomer. What we really mean is over and UNDER clocking. For example with SetCPU is can create a profile that greatly slows down my CPU when the screen is off. This saves the battery a lot, since my screen is nearly always off.
Also, I can create profiles that slow down the CPU as the battery lowers in order to offset the fact that I overclock the CPU when the battery is fuller.
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Wouldn't that put out more heat then the G2 was design to handle possibly shortening its life span?
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Probably could shorten the life span. I keep phones for a year or two, though, and shortened life span for me isn't an issue. The phone becomes outdated before the CPU gives up.
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It doesn't. However, overclocking is misnomer. What we really mean is over and UNDER clocking. For example with SetCPU is can create a profile that greatly slows down my CPU when the screen is off. This saves the battery a lot, since my screen is nearly always off.
Also, I can create profiles that slow down the CPU as the battery lowers in order to offset the fact that I overclock the CPU when the battery is fuller.
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^This.
I've gone a full 10 hours with my battery still reporting 100%.
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my default sense rom does not feel sluggish at all.
this oc is not really required from my point of view. and it also does not increase battery. the thing what increased is the underclocking when screen is off.
and this you can do even without overclocking. and THEN it brings even more gain.
an example of "real world" for me is how well my g2 plays PSX games on the emulator. I have it overclocked at 1.5 on setcpu and it runs chrono cross pretty much flawlessly with no noticeable slow down.
i use setcpu for underclocking since i don't do enough just yet to overclock, i haven't noticed any battery increase just yet and i've been using it for a few days now. i almost questioned my self if i was losing battery life due to my system mhz always fluctuating? is this a possibility? i just added a profile for screen off 245/245 but i still had to choose on demand? what should i put there. thanks for ur help everyone
I installed the bacon bits 1.4ghz kernel and setup some setcpu profiles.....battery life is much better now.
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screen off profile doesn't work with G2
noone has any proof it does change anything.
with or without widget running
I've read many threads where people say they have their G2 up around 1.5 and I'm just wondering what is considered a safe OC speed?
Some of the threads say there isn't much noticeable difference after 1.2, can any of you confirm this?
I'm on meXdroid right now and I've been keeping it at 1.2 but it gives me the option of going up to 1.516, so I'm wondering if there's any damage that might be done if I go with the max.
kingston73 said:
I've read many threads where people say they have their G2 up around 1.5 and I'm just wondering what is considered a safe OC speed?
Some of the threads say there isn't much noticeable difference after 1.2, can any of you confirm this?
I'm on meXdroid right now and I've been keeping it at 1.2 but it gives me the option of going up to 1.516, so I'm wondering if there's any damage that might be done if I go with the max.
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I'm running CM7.1 at a max of 1.4 without any problems. Not sure there is such a thing as completely "safe" when overclocking, but I also read about many who are at 1.5 or higher. I did notice a slight improvement going from 1.2 to 1.4 on my phone, but nothing substantial.
its safe to oc at 1.5 the thing is you wont be gaining a lot of performance but you will be draining more juice
After 1.2 the only thing you get is more battery consuccion.
The safe way is keeping the cpu ondemand or conservative between 245 - 1200.
If you want safe battery you can use setcpu and make 2 profiles one in screen off (powersave 245-368) screen on (ondemand 245-1200).
Note: for miui screen off profile have to be (245-768) because (245-368) cause delay in incoming calls.
And remember always the scale depends what kernel you use.
I using now pershoot 2.6.35.14
Is good with battery life so i recommended to you.
I was using ILWT kernel v1.5.1, is more better on battery life but i notice some problems went i use maps.
I hope that help you
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Ive also looked into this quite a bit and most people say around 1200mhz is the sweet spot for battery and speed.
also overclocking depends on kernel
I've ran mine at 1.42 using Unity sense as a daily driver.
pedroflovera said:
After 1.2 the only thing you get is more battery consuccion.
The safe way is keeping the cpu ondemand or conservative between 245 - 1200.
If you want safe battery you can use setcpu and make 2 profiles one in screen off (powersave 245-368) screen on (ondemand 245-1200).
Note: for miui screen off profile have to be (245-768) because (245-368) cause delay in incoming calls.
And remember always the scale depends what kernel you use.
I using now pershoot 2.6.35.14
Is good with battery life so i recommended to you.
I was using ILWT kernel v1.5.1, is more better on battery life but i notice some problems went i use maps.
I hope that help you
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The OP is using meXdroidmod which has "tweaKr" script so no need for set CPU and he also has option to adjust voltages and many other tweaks. MeXdroidmod is awesome!
To the OP, just keep it at 1.2 . Like others have mentioned...just wasting juice if any higher.
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I have mine at 1.6Ghz set on performance screen on, 368-768 ondemand screen off. I'm a medium/light user and will have around 20-30% left when i plug it in at night.
The amount you can overclock while still maintaining decent battery life really depends on if you're a light/medium/heavy user - because the charge is only being rapidly drained while the screen is on (if you have a sensible screen off profile set up). Light users can afford to run at high speeds on performance govenors, heavy users should run at lower speeds with conservative governors.
As for how safe overclocking is i'm not completely sure what the limits are, but there are people who run their G2's at 2Ghz and get no problems... the biggest danger is probably heat damage to the phone, but the battery will fail before you get to temperatures that will damage the phone so i wouldn't worry about that. The other concern is reducing the life of the cpu, however the longest you will have a phone is around 2 years, and an overclocked cpu will still last far longer than this.
Hope I helped answer your question, I am running Miui btw.
I have a 2.7ghz kernel on cyanogen 7.1 and I call it the Turbo charged g2
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The maximum speed our G2 can go is 2.03 but if you want battery and spped i recommend setting it up in between 0.9 and 1.3
Hope it helps!
the 7x30 processors are designed to run up to 1.5 so basically it's not oc. and the Desire z/G2 come with underclocked kernels on stock
Currenty oc my dz to 1.5ghz. Can oc to 1.9ghz without any problem.
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lolocabra said:
the 7x30 processors are designed to run up to 1.5 so basically it's not oc. and the Desire z/G2 come with underclocked kernels on stock
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seriously?! it can run 1.5ghz without burning the cpu??
Steven How said:
seriously?! it can run 1.5ghz without burning the cpu??
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Yup, a lot of people are running 1.2 or 1.5 daily.
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i always thought they took Desire's 1GHz cpu and put it underclocked in the dz... so i oc it to 1GHz...
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Steven How said:
seriously?! it can run 1.5ghz without burning the cpu??
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That's incorrect from what I've read the CPU the g2 has is a 800 stock its not underclocked or nothing that's how it came From HTC but its a 2nd Gen snapdragon and their for very recealient and efficient and their for can be overclocked .. and from what I have seen and read this CPU has been overclocked more then any other CPU on a phone ... its bad ass!
Oh yeah .. I'm running mine at 1.4max and .122min with ondemand on g-light 2.0.1 rom and no over heating
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Wow,wat if I run at 384mhz-1.2ghz and the battery become pretty hot? :/
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andslide said:
I have a 2.7ghz kernel on cyanogen 7.1 and I call it the Turbo charged g2
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Mind give me the link to download the 2.7ghz kernel XD ?
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Safely ocing to 1.4 on my daily rom.
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I am new to phone overclocking and have just installed Zero Hero. Never overclocked a phone before so I would like to know what is a safe and stable overclock that pretty much any Hero can achieve?
Thanks
Depends on your hero. I've read some posts where there are those who report the hero being unstable past 700.
I would start bumping it up one setting at a time and see how it runs. I have mine set to 768/556 and its totally stable. Just remember that the higher the cpu clock the more drain on your battery.
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I am new to phone overclocking and have just installed Zero Hero. Never overclocked a phone before so I would like to know what is a safe and stable overclock that pretty much any Hero can achieve?
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some heroes can't boot at 768. i have one i play with that can't and mine i use that can. only one way to find out
691 is the universal safest speed you can overclock to. Some are lucky like me and can overclock to the 800s.
Of course battery life sucks as you overclock. At least on my Evo 3D it does haha
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
I'm wondering what is the battery life difference between 1000MHz (as max) and overclocked 1400MHz?
In most [low-end] phones little OC consumes a lot of power, but I don't see this issue in SGS.
Are you using your phone overclocked? How long last your battery?
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I'm wondering what is the battery life difference between 1000MHz (as max) and overclocked 1400MHz?
In most [low-end] phones little OC consumes a lot of power, but I don't see this issue in SGS.
Are you using your phone overclocked? How long last your battery?
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I dont know why would you do that... I use SGS in max 800mhz(underclocked) and its perfectly fast... But regarding your question, prolly would be about a day and a half of battery with those settings on OC.
I think its perfectly fast as it is but to your question ... i think it really depends on how you use it i dont belive it will last more than a day of it is used as intended ...
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I dont know why would you do that... I use SGS in max 800mhz(underclocked) and its perfectly fast... But regarding your question, prolly would be about a day and a half of battery with those settings on OC.
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I tried underclocking my SGS (aokp build 28) to 800mhz, and it crawled, never got to the first unicorn in past the boot animation. seriously.
I over locked up to 1200, no over volt. Don't feel any impact on batterry since phone is only less 1 percent of time in that CPU state.Rest of time it is idling.
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im running SGS with 1000MHz and i don't need more power on my phone :S
Not much diff actually
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there can be a difference in battery life, but there does not necessarily have to be one I assume... after all, it is only the maximum available for the processor, most of te time it will not run at that speed... I for one do not overclock my phone (actually, I have underclocked it to 800mhz) since I have no need for these speeds (just using my phone for messaging and some browsing)...
please correct me if I am wrong since I do not know much about how the SGS processor exactly works
i cant see how it shouldnt impact battery.