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Got a Vibrant yesterday to "try out" the android world for the first time. Must say I'm impressed by the phones performance out of the box even with all the bloatware and crap on it. I've been a windows mobile guy for quite some time now, so the people that know both platforms well, know they are two completely different monsters. My two options were the hd2 (since i know the WM world pretty well) or learn a whole new platform with the vibrant.
I like it so far, but also miss some of the things from WM (or rather miss knowing my phone well). I guess i just have to start from zero and get acquainted with it first.
Any suggestions on getting the bare down scoop of the platform and such as far as learning it from the ground up? The sticky explains how to do these things, but I need something more basic...I just wanna become proficient in the android world as I am in the WM world starting from zero.
Its hard to say where to start, the best thing about android is the customization. Playing with phone is the only way you are gonna learn, I have been an android owner since day one and am still learning new things everyday. If there is something I don't know I simply come here since this is the best android community on the web. Hope you enjoy IMO the best android phone on the market.
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Yeah, really not that much to help with...everything seems pretty intuitive to me. When in doubt, long press or press menu.
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
That's where I started off, you're most likely going to want to root it. Search the forums around. There's some great stickies to follow by and just go with that.
Can't wait for CM? Learn to make your own APP to have fun with ;p
phragg said:
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
That's where I started off, you're most likely going to want to root it. Search the forums around. There's some great stickies to follow by and just go with that.
Can't wait for CM? Learn to make your own APP to have fun with ;p
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Well, kindle isn't that bad considering you can get a ton of free books for it.
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phragg said:
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
That's where I started off, you're most likely going to want to root it. Search the forums around. There's some great stickies to follow by and just go with that.
Can't wait for CM? Learn to make your own APP to have fun with ;p
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Well, you could always copy Avatar onto a larger card and then go wild! That's what I did, it will play lots of 720p mkv's that you might have laying around no problem!
Long press and menu are your friends. Other than that look here on xda and use the search function. The stickies typically have the most current info.
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phragg said:
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
That's where I started off, you're most likely going to want to root it. Search the forums around. There's some great stickies to follow by and just go with that.
Can't wait for CM? Learn to make your own APP to have fun with ;p
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what is CM?
I am a programmer by profession. Maybe I could look into the world of android programming too while im at it
phragg said:
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
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I didn't have those questions. I mean the first thing i did was move avatar to my 16gb msdhc into it and go wild with my music, photo, and videos...which I'm amazed how good of sound/video quality i get on this.
I thought more of like where do how do I view flash websites, how do i stream live .pls live music streams, or smaller things like hiding apps from the notification area at the top left when they are running, or resizing certain widgets, removing some of the applications that came with the phone from t mobile, mapping buttons to do different things based on holding them down or tapping a certain amount of times, things like that that aren't explained in the user manual. Or even like right now, I'm trying to make a call and it says: "Call not sent"...well? whyyyyyyyyy? so many questions!
I don't know, I guess all this is just part of the familiarization process and will sooner or later find them out whether by experience or hunting down resources why certain behaviors and actions happen.
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Long press and menu are your friends. Other than that look here on xda and use the search function. The stickies typically have the most current info.
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what is long press?
^ you should read the sticky. A lot of the things you mentioned, are addressed in the sticky.
Also, flash is only on Android 2.2, which we do not have yet.
achild said:
Got a Vibrant yesterday to "try out" the android world for the first time. Must say I'm impressed by the phones performance out of the box even with all the bloatware and crap on it. I've been a windows mobile guy for quite some time now, so the people that know both platforms well, know they are two completely different monsters. My two options were the hd2 (since i know the WM world pretty well) or learn a whole new platform with the vibrant.
I like it so far, but also miss some of the things from WM (or rather miss knowing my phone well). I guess i just have to start from zero and get acquainted with it first.
Any suggestions on getting the bare down scoop of the platform and such as far as learning it from the ground up? The sticky explains how to do these things, but I need something more basic...I just wanna become proficient in the android world as I am in the WM world starting from zero.
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Congrats on your new phone. Let us know how your GPS works, since that seems to be a hot issue. you can test using google maps, google navigation and GPS Test downloadable from the Android Market.
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Congrats on your new phone. Let us know how your GPS works, since that seems to be a hot issue. you can test using google maps, google navigation and GPS Test downloadable from the Android Market.
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haha that seems to be a problem with any gps enabled phone nowadays. Happened with the fuze and after months and months of tweaking and tweaking we got a hang of it. I tried the GPS yesterday on my way home from work yesterday and did not get a lock, i went ahead and downloaded gps test today to see if that will unlock it before using the gps software. We shall see! Thanks for the heads up tho!
edit: I guess gps test on android works differently than on WM. On WM it scans through your COM ports and gets a fix for you to then use your gps navigation software.
achild said:
what is CM?
I am a programmer by profession. Maybe I could look into the world of android programming too while im at it
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please do!
we could always use more programmers.
achild said:
what is long press?
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Instead of tapping on something you hold your finger down for a few seconds. A menu will pop up giving you options like copy and paste.
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If your phone won't play a video format, try RockPlayer
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I would recommend the market as the first place to go. Just start searching and downloading apps and play with your phone. You'll get accustomed to it very quickly!
Droidicus said:
I would recommend the market as the first place to go. Just start searching and downloading apps and pay with your phone. You'll get accustomed to it very quickly!
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Yeah thats what ive been doing. Thats another thing that amazes me about android, soooo many apps, and they are all centralized into one easy, convenient location. In wm you would find a few in the marketplace, and the rest u had to hunt down either on the forum or the web. This is slowly growing on me
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Coming from WM myself, (and just recently and very reticently turned over my beloved Wizard to my mom) the fun and unfun I have with Android:
Apps are so dratted cheap. Have at it.
Cloud connectivity. I use Picasa all the time now. It took me a while to get used to Google contacts, especially first name alphabetization, but I like it now.
You might want to look at subscribing to CompanionLink. It reliably syncs everything Outlook with your Google account (thus your phone).
Almost nothing was built into Android 1.0. Not much was added through 1.5. Some stuff has been added since, like Facebook sync, but custom ROMs don't add stuff. There's an app for everything. There has to be.
The app drawer is a hassle. I use FolderOrganizer (and ADW Launcher) to quell my addiction to organization beyond alphabetical.
It's fun to watch a few things catch up with WinMo and hear all the Android users brag about how great it is. Like app-specific auto-rotation. There's an app for it out now, but it actually costs something you'll think about, and it eats a hunk of RAM. They're just getting into animated GIFs. Lists and their apps aren't anywhere near ListPro, but they almost all have some way to sync to the cloud.
Office documents created on a PC don't always work with the Office apps that are out there. Don't bother with DocumentsToGo, but Sheadspreet is good (you have to convert first) and I'm trying OfficeSuite, and it seems the best. 30-day trial, $15. It's still not WinMo, though.
For those things you don't sync with the cloud, you can't just throw stuff in your My Documents Folder and rely on that backup. DropBox is a good app/service, and GoogleDocs is your friend. Most apps back up thier specific data to your SD, but on this phone, it's on the internal SD. You have to manually handle your backups, or do Nandroid backups (another worthwhile Google).
You have to install an app to install apps not from Market. Instead of exes their apks.
There's no Total Commander. I like Root Explorer. Astro is feature-filled. There are a million file explorers, and every one of them will have its advocates.
Flashing ROMs is tons easier, but you have to root first.
The Android world moves a lot faster. If you're off the forums for a week you'll feel like you've been in a coma for months. On the flip side, if you're waiting for something to get developed, waiting a few days feel like eternity.
Android devs work harder for a lot less, or no money; it's truly inspiring.
Before you go buying the first app that does what you want, check Market for more that do the same thing. I've found that there's a free alternative to almost everything. The paid versions/apps are more luxurious in one way or another, usually, but a little research can save you a bunch of regret.
Widgets suck RAM. Before you know it you've got 25 and you're wondering why your Home screen is lagging. Phones are finite. Even these.
CM is CyanogenMod. Google it, it's worth it. They started on XDA and it got out of control, so they have their own site now, although the threads still hanging on XDA re CM are a much more interesting read. It seems to be the most popular set of ROMS for a variety of devices. I follow and flash them (the ROMs, that is. I dont want the devs to hate me).
Double entendres are rampant. It's Google.
Once you get your apps organized, you'll be surprised at how smoothly your phone useage goes. Frankly, it's just more fun, and much cheaper, to play with.
SamsungGalaxySVibrant said:
Congrats on your new phone. Let us know how your GPS works, since that seems to be a hot issue. you can test using google maps, google navigation and GPS Test downloadable from the Android Market.
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Tested it. Google maps got no lock. However, gps test gave me 3 satellites, when I held it in front, under the windshiels it jumped to five satellites, but it wasn't enough for google maps to lock or get my location.
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Hello.
I am interested in a highly secure Rom for the evo. I would like it to be free of Google or anyother corporately monitored system. real opensource experience free of all this monitoring and tracking and data minning. Maybe with a nice user friendly firewall for all connections. how about built in 512 bit encryption. For private txt messaging.
Let's hear from the community on this.
I may be wrong but... Evo is an Android phone... Android = Google. I don't think you'll have much luck getting a Google free Android phone.
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You know these are google/android forums right? I don't think it will be possible at all....
Do you want an aluminum foil hat with that ROM?
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Dude that will never happen. Thats all i have to say
Umm don't listen to anyone who previously posted. You could easily use CyanogenMod with out Google apps to do this. You would be missing the market and any standard app that has the word Google before it like Google maps, but I guess now you could use the Amazon market anyway.
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Actually i had a Samsung intercept that originally had Google android rom and ended up with a non-google phone in the end...... Accidentally flashed a radio from differnet phone and after no signs of Google ..... Or signs of really anything but made a great paper weight!
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u921333 said:
Actually i had a Samsung intercept that originally had Google android rom and ended up with a non-google phone in the end...... Accidentally flashed a radio from differnet phone and after no signs of Google ..... Or signs of really anything but made a great paper weight!
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i dont think you understand what he means... im not a troll . but he said he doesnt want it to have google ,also for it to keep everything private... also look at my new signature LMFAO
sorry quoted wrong guy but yeah if he is lucky and doesnt brick.
how would this be possible ? dont you need a google account to even use the phone ? could probably be wrong.
josh995 said:
I may be wrong but... Evo is an Android phone... Android = Google. I don't think you'll have much luck getting a Google free Android phone.
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You think wrong.
knowledge561 said:
You know these are google/android forums right? I don't think it will be possible at all....
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You think wrong too.
tgruendler said:
Do you want an aluminum foil hat with that ROM?
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Will it match your dunce cap?
davidc23 said:
Dude that will never happen. Thats all i have to say
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You are giving wrong info, that's all I have to say.
jvward said:
Umm don't listen to anyone who previously posted. You could easily use CyanogenMod with out Google apps to do this. You would be missing the market and any standard app that has the word Google before it like Google maps, but I guess now you could use the Amazon market anyway.
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Finally someone smart in this thread.
Any ASOP ROM which doesn't include GAPPS like cyanogyn mod or deck's ASOP rom will do this (minus the sms encryption) as long as you don't flash the GAPPS add ons or enable my location.
I really hate when people act like experts, but don't know what their talking about.
I don't think you're going to find this for the EVO, although I imagine there's a phone out there somewhere that you can accomplish this with.
datajosh said:
I don't think you're going to find this for the EVO, although I imagine there's a phone out there somewhere that you can accomplish this with.
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Wrong again, check my post immediately above yours.
mjs1231 said:
Hello.
I am interested in a highly secure Rom for the evo. I would like it to be free of Google or anyother corporately monitored system. real opensource experience free of all this monitoring and tracking and data minning. Maybe with a nice user friendly firewall for all connections. how about built in 512 bit encryption. For private txt messaging.
Let's hear from the community on this.
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When you say free of google what do u mean?? Evo runs android, android is created by Google. There is no way you could have android without Google. If you mean Google apps, as someone else said just run cyanogenmod without GAPPS. You wont be able to do much, won't even be able to load apps that aren't preinstalled.
indagroove said:
You think wrong.
You think wrong too.
Will it match your dunce cap?
You are giving wrong info, that's all I have to say.
Finally someone smart in this thread.
Any ASOP ROM which doesn't include GAPPS like cyanogyn mod or deck's ASOP rom will do this (minus the sms encryption) as long as you don't flash the GAPPS add ons or enable my location.
I really hate when people act like experts, but don't know what their talking about.
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It wouldn't be anymore secure than the current version of Android being ran (which he mentioned and is apparently worried about).. but as far as all the 'monitoring and tracking' and what not, I mean, sure. But what would be the point? Seems like a pretty half assed Android experience.
There is only so much that can be done without the use of, say, GApps ... might get the job done but would essentially kill the idea of even owning said phone.
Get Yo'Self a Jitterbug
bwcorvus said:
When you say free of google what do u mean?? Evo runs android, android is created by Google. There is no way you could have android without Google. If you mean Google apps, as someone else said just run cyanogenmod without GAPPS. You wont be able to do much, won't even be able to load apps that aren't preinstalled.
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Obviously the OS is made by Google, but I don't think that's what he meant. I think he means a rom which won't constantly sync with google's servers.
Also, you CAN sideload apps without market or GAPPS installed, the trick is just to find the .apk files somewhere other than google market, but most are on either amazon market or Edit, so again another WRONG piece of info given out here.
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It wouldn't be anymore secure than the current version of Android being ran (which he mentioned).. but as far as all the 'monitoring and tracking' and what not, I mean, sure. But what would be the point? Seems like a pretty half assed Android experience.
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Although I wouldn't do it myself, I can see the point. You would have way better battery life without the constant syncing. Also takes much less ram. Not everyone cares about sync with gmail, contacts, and calendar. Some just want a nice smooth OS. It would be more secure, because everything wouldn't go through google's servers.
mjs1231 said:
Hello.
I am interested in a highly secure Rom for the evo. I would like it to be free of Google or anyother corporately monitored system. real opensource experience free of all this monitoring and tracking and data minning. Maybe with a nice user friendly firewall for all connections. how about built in 512 bit encryption. For private txt messaging.
Let's hear from the community on this.
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Seriously? This is like asking for the competitor iPhone and not wanting Apple to make it. If you didn't want a Google phone then why did you buy a phone with software developed by Google? Please don't tell me you Yahoo'd your phone. That would just be an Epic Fail!
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Seriously? This is like asking for the competitor iPhone and not wanting Apple to make it. If you didn't want a Google phone then why did you buy a phone with software developed by Google? Please don't tell me you Yahoo'd your phone. That would just be an Epic Fail!
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Actually it's more like having an iphone and not paying for mobile me. But in this case it's a better situation because you wouldn't have to register with google to get the apps (get them somewhere else as I suggested previously), like you would have to with apple.
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Although I wouldn't do it myself, I can see the point. You would have way better battery life without the constant syncing. Also takes much less ram. Not everyone cares about sync with gmail, contacts, and calendar. Some just want a nice smooth OS. It would be more secure, because everything wouldn't go through google's servers.
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I get the 'tracking' and what not ... but no one is really 'tracking' you. Recorded, maybe. But what does that even really matter in the end?
I get that you want to point out that it can be done, and others were wrong, but it was a silly question none the less.
And, sure, of course - less RAM. And no syncing? Could always disable. But freeing up RAM and what not? Running a smooth experience? It's not going to be that much smoother than should you elect to NOT use proprietary apps. It's not going to be a 'night and day' thing.
I'm more or less curious what the OP wants to do with his phone. Yeah, getting apps from other avenues is always a possibility ... sure. But getting apps from outside of the Market isn't going to offer less system stability, or smoothness, as opposed to getting them from the market.
Sure, I suppose it could be done ... but what are you trying to do? And, as said, it's only as secure as the latest version of Android ... which is constantly facing security issues.
It was sort of a silly post. Gotta admit that much.
The way the android system and app devs have files organized on the SD card! like seriously, it's such a mess. Nearly every app has at least one folder in there! It takes me forever to find things that I'm looking for. how difficult would it have been for there to be a folder called "APPDATA" where ALL THAT CRAP can be thrown into so all we have to see is a folder called APPDATA? There are 45 folders on my SD card right now... by shoving all the app related ones into one folder I could reduce that to maybe 10 at the most...
Does anyone else feel this way or am I just too organized Also is there any way that this could possibly be done? That would be WONDERFUL!
I agree.. and the worst part is, some folders are not recognizable to me!! A lot of them are not named to the same app name that you've installed on your phone. Sigh..
It SHOULD be laid out like this:
SDCARD/APPDATA/APPNAME/[All apps files and folders go here]
That way we know what the hell goes with what and don't have to play guessing games.
100% agree. Also I have like 5 different pictures folders, for standard camera, vignette, photaf, 360 camera... I think maybe we can contact some developers and ask them if there is some technical purpose for the folders being on the sd card root. Google will never enforce any kind of politic about this. that's what sucks about the lack of an app approval process
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100% agree. Also I have like 5 different pictures folders, for standard camera, vignette, photaf, 360 camera... I think maybe we can contact some developers and ask them if there is some technical purpose for the folders being on the sd card root. Google will never enforce any kind of politic about this. that's what sucks about the lack of an app approval process
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Most of the camera apps have an option to use the default DCIM folder, or choose a folder of your liking.
i agree. and its so friggen annoying when you have crap like LOST.DIR
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i agree. and its so friggen annoying when you have crap like LOST.DIR
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What exactly is that anyways?
Agree, sd card just keeps filling up from trying different apps and un-installing again, in many most cases junk is left behind on sd card and very often the folders dont have names related to the app so i have no clue what to delete to not mess up the apps i'm using.
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100% agree ! But often i clean junks from my sd cards which helps me alot
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After cleaning SDCard phone gains much more speed... It's really a mess... We need more internal storage like the SGS2 has!
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i agree. and its so freaking annoying when you have crap like LOST.DIR
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LOST.DIR is usually data that has gotten damaged or half written to the card.
"lost files"
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100% true.
Currently every second app a developer makes that uses the SD to store data makes a new folder for their app.
It becomes a huge mess very fast.
I often find myself thinking WTF is this folder. only to figure out it was a folder that held some 2KB file for the game score.
Developers need to all conform to a set of rules.
Someone needs to write The Android Developers Code Of Conduct Manual.
To help developers better understand what we love and hate in android devices.
It is up to getting people informed and aware.
Only then... we can evolve.
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When I first got root and installed Root explorer I got so peeved at all the folders I set about deleting folders and files Willy and indeed nilly.
Not a great idea. :0
Thank Goodness for SEUS.
SE X10i 2.3.3 CM7.0.3
The worst is when an app creates a folder, then never even uses the damn thing lol....wtf you taking up room on my SD card for if you're never even gonna use it?!?!?!?!? Like i need 20 empty folders hanging around for no reason. lol
I make it a point to reformat my SD card 2-3x a year, whether it needs it or not...my phone runs soooooooo much faster with a nice organized SD card.
Placebo... Unless ur sd card were full...
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THIS IS A GREAT THREAD!
have to agree. I'm sick and tired of having to clean out so much crap. Like u said it could all just go into one android folder. Why do u need a android folder, then data, then program data, then other crap from other apps.
Someone needs to for something somewhere coz I keep needing to clear up crap. This part of android is just not SMART
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Along with many others, I am moving on from my still perfectly usable EVO. I have a daughter who wants an ipod touch and I was thinking of converting the EVO. Since she wants the ipod, I was thinking of MIUI with the phone components stripped out. I don't have the skill to hide everything (nor the time to learn). But, I would think basics could be done by most of us...unless there is someone with that skill, and more interest than just me in this becoming a ROM.
ROM or not ("not" meaning a one off that I do for my use), the EVO will be a more than suitable mobile media/game machine as it's been for me since launch day. Anyone else done this?
MIUI I would think. Use Root Explorer to rip our the phone stuff and other .apk you don't want. Leave in Market and maybe Amazon Appstore so she can get games and music
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Along with many others, I am moving on from my still perfectly usable EVO. I have a daughter who wants an ipod touch and I was thinking of converting the EVO. Since she wants the ipod, I was thinking of MIUI with the phone components stripped out. I don't have the skill to hide everything (nor the time to learn). But, I would think basics could be done by most of us...unless there is someone with that skill, and more interest than just me in this becoming a ROM.
ROM or not ("not" meaning a one off that I do for my use), the EVO will be a more than suitable mobile media/game machine as it's been for me since launch day. Anyone else done this?
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Why not leave the phone stuff in it wouldn't hurt anything I don't think
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That is what my old Hero is essentially used for. I did not remove anything but I just installed CM7 and we keep it in Airplane Mode with (Wifi on) and my son uses it to play games.
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Why not leave the phone stuff in it wouldn't hurt anything I don't think
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Don't take offense to this...but is what you asked not a bit like "why customize, it already works"?
I figured I would modify it to suit it's use.
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Why not leave the phone stuff in it wouldn't hurt anything I don't think
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Exactly. If the phone is taken off the account it wont work a phone anymore since Sprint towers won't allow it to make or receive phone calls so it could be considered a mini tablet at that point (powerful mini tablet tho). If your daughter needs to make purchases she can use the wifi radio to connect to the internet.
The other option is to disable the radio... there is an app on the market called network that will allow you to control if you want the CDMA radio to work... you could install the app, disable the radio and then remove the app. This way IF you ever need a spare phone you can revert the process and have the CDMA radio back online.
As far as removing the phone apks... I have seen many threads that indicate that doing such thing might be a bad idea since most seem to bootloop when they are removed. It make sense that it does, after all the EVO is a phone.
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Don't take offense to this...but is what you asked not a bit like "why customize, it already works"?
I figured I would modify it to suit it's use.
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I understand was just saying either way if u do get something you could post it lol
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fenixjn said:
As far as removing the phone apks... I have seen many threads that indicate that doing such thing might be a bad idea since most seem to bootloop when they are removed. It make sense that it does, after all the EVO is a phone.
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This. I once accidentally deleted the phone apk with root explorer and everything went to hell. Had to pull the battery and do a nand restore. Although, I'm sure if you had a ROM that was designed to operate without a phone apk, it would work just fine. Tablets don't have them.
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MIUI is perfect for this.
I don't think I will even have to "remove" core parts (wasn't concerned since I have a nandroid of synergy from last night), just hide them. I would have liked using this before, but the 4G was a killer for me...until now.
Can anyone recommend a good free converter that will change my .m4p files to mp3 for use with my S4 / other devices. I hate restrictions on the stuff I PAID for. Looks like I may have just installed a faulty program trying to search myself. Any help would be appreciated
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I haven't worked with m4p files in a LONG time, but back when I was in college, I used to make "CDs" out of them with an old application that made sort of an iso of the CD format, and just ripped in back into mp3 format. Ended up create a small script that would do that for a list of songs. I'm pretty sure someone has created an app to do that by now. If all else fails, you can go at it the old fashion way - burn and rip.
I think this is against XDA rules man. As much as you might have payed, you payed for licensing from Apple and they dictate the terms
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Thermalwolf said:
I think this is against XDA rules man. As much as you might have payed, you payed for licensing from Apple and they dictate the terms
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I wasn't exactly looking to send all my music out for free in a share network. Just looking to get it to work on my PERSONAL device. I understand where you are coming from though. Talking with Apple now as I believe you used to be able to burn your songs to a disk in mp3. Not sure if it's because I am trying to do it with a data dvd-rw but each time the songs remain in the same format. Love the benefits I get for actually paying for my music. Not trying to do anything shady haha. Just looking for my music on my device
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Mike on XDA said:
I wasn't exactly looking to send all my music out for free in a share network. Just looking to get it to work on my PERSONAL device. I understand where you are coming from though. Talking with Apple now as I believe you used to be able to burn your songs to a disk in mp3. Not sure if it's because I am trying to do it with a data dvd-rw but each time the songs remain in the same format. Love the benefits I get for actually paying for my music. Not trying to do anything shady haha. Just looking for my music on my device
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I still buy all my music from itunes and it has always worked on my android phones. IIRC Apple convered to non-DRM many years ago. Anything you bought before that they gave you an option to convert (for a price).
GeorgeP said:
I still buy all my music from itunes and it has always worked on my android phones. IIRC Apple convered to non-DRM many years ago. Anything you bought before that they gave you an option to convert (for a price).
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Just got off the phone with a rep and I should be able to get those older tracks dmr free in the way of redownloading. The songs unfortunately are too far back to be listed for direct download in my purchase history. I have to go on chat support and give all the individual order numbers listed in my invoice looking purchase history. Certainly not ideal, but better than nothing.
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Mike on XDA said:
Just got off the phone with a rep and I should be able to get those older tracks dmr free in the way of redownloading. The songs unfortunately are too far back to be listed for direct download in my purchase history. I have to go on chat support and give all the individual order numbers listed in my invoice looking purchase history. Certainly not ideal, but better than nothing.
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I tested it out with my account, and anything that I purchase back when I owned a 3GS remains DRM'd. If Apple's willing to help you, that's awesome. There might be some issue about when you bought it and what the EULA was back then. Hopefully Apple can help you through that.
On a side note, Amazon MP3 FTW!
Back off a long chat with support.
iTunes plus has been discontinued and I have yet to get my music burned to a disk in .mp3 format from .m4p. I keep trying in iTunes but haven't been successful yet using a dvd-rw. Not sure if it makes a difference so I will try a cd-r in a minute. The only current way to get the songs DRM free is by subscribing to iTunes Match. From what I understand it scans your library, upgrades lower bit versions of songs and allow you to download DRM free versions of your purchased tracks. $25 a year upfront.
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Mike on XDA said:
Back off a long chat with support.
iTunes plus has been discontinued and I have yet to get my music burned to a disk in .mp3 format from .m4p. I keep trying in iTunes but haven't been successful yet using a dvd-rw. Not sure if it makes a difference so I will try a cd-r in a minute. The only current way to get the songs DRM free is by subscribing to iTunes Match. From what I understand it scans your library, upgrades lower bit versions of songs and allow you to download DRM free versions of your purchased tracks. $25 a year upfront.
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The official way is to make Music CD disks from iTunes - basically the M4P is turned into a WAV file and you get to put 12 or so on a CD. You lose all the tags, then you can re-rip to MP3. There are some software solutions (I have seen ads) but i have not tried them.
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The official way is to make Music CD disks from iTunes - basically the M4P is turned into a WAV file and you get to put 12 or so on a CD. You lose all the tags, then you can re-rip to MP3. There are some software solutions (I have seen ads) but i have not tried them.
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Yeah, every time I rip them though there are large discrepancies on the time for each track. They are in unprotected format after but some cut off halfway and others last longer than they should with just blank audio. For example Free Fallin by Tom Petty is 4:16 on iTunes but 14:25 on the disk. It is just blank for the extra 10 min while other tracks are cut off with not enough time. I don't understand... This is quite the pain and I'm now out of disks.
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DVD Fab has itunes DRM removal built into it. I think they have a free trial of it, not sure though.