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TYTN - Weak WIFI Signal

Hello All,
I am wondering if you can help. I have a Linksys N router at home which is supposed to be 4x the area of coverage from a g. It is in my basement and the signal in my bedrooms is very weak. I purchased a Linksys signal booster and plugged on the first floor to repeat the signal to the bedrooms.
Here is the problem: I use my TYTN on the first floor close to the basement window and the signal is ok but when I move farther on the first floor the signal becomes very weak - not to mention how weak it is upstairs in the bedrooms.
I tried it with my Univeral and it is a killer full bar signal. This leads me to believe it is either my wifi is busted on my TYNT in terms of reception or they have very weak WIFI antenas. Can someone confirm if they have a similar problem?
Thanks,
Gilbert

yes i think there is a problem with the signal
he is very weak!

Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...

Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...

At least it got better WiFi-signal than the Wizard...

Change the mode to 'best performance' and try again.
Cheerio
Howard

El_Mar1ach1 said:
Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
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I don't know about Universal, but I have a BlueAngel and it doesn't have better wifi signal than Hermes. Hermes a lot better for me, mine is an HTC TyTN (WWE) #628.

FWIW I have both Blue Angel and Wizard devices -- the Wizard's WiFi is far superior to the BA. The BA can barely pick up the signal for my office network, but the Wizard can connect to it from outside.

You should try to adjust the battery vs. performance slider in wifi settings
and report if the signal is stronger then.
I haventh had the opportunity to test the wlan yet myself.

Guys, i have use ALL HTC devices so far and i can surely say that their wifi chipsets in terms of signal strength is totally crap( i have made lots of tests comparing to other PDA brands).
I haven't used an HTC Hermes so far but i am afraid( judging from your saying) that the problem still persists.

I've done a quick test: opened wififofum on BlueAngel and Hermes, and walked around the house.
BA found 13APs, while TyTN found 22. At some point BA was seeing 7/13 while TyTN 11/22.
So, TyTN is far superior

Well here is the deal.
I tried my universal in my bedroom and it has full bar and then tried it with my Tytn and it has one bar!!!!!
I have a linksys N router in my basement and a signal booster in the first floor and this is adquate to boost the signal to my second floor bedrooms. But instead, all other devices have excellent reception but my tytn has one or two bars to the max when i put it in best performance mode. I am running a surge on wifi signals in my house and it is still weak.
WTF
Gilbert

Sorry If I'm kinda jumping or hijack this thread. Although this thread I guess is better than I start a new thread. My Prophet also sucks when receiving WIFI signals. I have an Alpine, an 02 Zinc, a nintendo DS, a laptop. dudes, my prophet couldn't even receive signal on the next room adjacent to where my router is. but for everything else in my devices, it can go as far as outside my house. probably 15meters away from the wifi, but can still browse. my prophhet can only receive wifi signals if i put my phropet besides the router itself. then slowly moving away but not exceeding 10 FEET. I mean what the hell is the wlan for if it ain't going further than 10 eet from the router. in my devices here's from the farthest to the weakest:
1. My Laptop of course: can still watch youtube outside the house.
2. My Alpine: dudes the signal rocks! even thru my inside gates.
3. My Zinc: slightly nearer than my alpine.
4. My NDS: kinda halfway than my Alpine.
5. My Prophet: worse: you should be beside the router. then why i don't i just open my dang PC and browse from it.
I have all these device with me.
for about sometime I also had the nokia n91. wifi signal's pretty good too. I just sold it out since when browsing heavy sites, the explorer turns off. I freakinly hate my prophet for it's ridiculous wifi connection. Currently I'm flashing all available rom there is just to test my WIFI reception. Hope you guys observe my tests. thanks!

What I want to say is that the wifi singnal has matters with the barrier in the space and the network condition itself. Beside that ,I made a test before,the wifi singal on WM6.1 was better than WM6.Maybe you can try to update your OS version.

WiFi Poor Signals

Surprise me that I read nothing about the poor receiving quality of the Hermes when I one meter away from the router the signal drops down dramatically with 50% and after ten meters I read only 10% or something is there something to do about this? Maybe a bad antenna inside the Hermes or Faraday effect?
Any suggestion is welcome or am I the only one with this matter.

Heijdemann said:
Surprise me that I read nothing about the poor receiving quality of the Hermes when I one meter away from the router the signal drops down dramatically with 50% and after ten meters I read only 10% or something is there something to do about this? Maybe a bad antenna inside the Hermes or Faraday effect?
Any suggestion is welcome of am I the only one with this matter.
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I'm afraid the TyTn (Hermes) does not have a strong reception on wifi. Fine up to 10 metres and if not too much in the way upto 15 or so. Ok generally in and around normal house but if it's Buckingham Palace not too hot. Just the compromise we pay for having to pack in allthe other features I'm afraid.
Mike

I believe part of the problem is the antenna placement. While I don't know exactly where the antenna is located, I do know that when the device is held in your hand it has a considerable lower receive signal strength (as much as 10dB).
Give it a try. Set the device on the table and see what you measure. Then hold the device in your hand and see the difference.
Tim

tolson said:
I believe part of the problem is the antenna placement. While I don't know exactly where the antenna is located, I do know that when the device is held in your hand it has a considerable lower receive signal strength (as much as 10dB).
Give it a try. Set the device on the table and see what you measure. Then hold the device in your hand and see the difference.
Tim
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Your right. The antenna is along top edge. When in landscape your left hand tends to obscure it.
Mike

The WIFI reception on these devices is exteremly horrible. There must be a problem in the design, as it don't do more than 10 meters. We have a Andes in the house as well and it has no problems at all with wifi reception.
There must be a fix out there. I purchased this device specifically for the wifi .

have you noticed the connector for spar external place on the back of the TYTN? an is found rubberizes near the camera. I have attentively looked at the photos of the inside and I believe that this is related to the form radio and not to the wifi.
I would like so much to realize a connector wifi for external spar (you see PSP wifi connector) even replacing that connector radio with a wifi and connecting a cable on the chip wifi TNETW1250.
the welding of the cable should be made on the chip TNETW3422M.
Is there someone who has photo more detailed of those that are on the forum of xda?

Have y'all tried the Best Performance setting?
I have not used Wifi, nor will I ever (that is what 3G is for - since 3G is faster than my DSL connection...), but others have reported that changing to Best Performance helps...

I had three TyTN's and the last one had a horrible WiFi reception....10 meters at best. I had a Loox 720 (from a friend) for reference...with this PDA I could walk about 50 meters before reception became unusable. When it comes to WiFi reception this device has a major production tolerance. It makes me wonder if there is some kind of QC over there at HTC. My devices shouldn't have shipped in the first place.
b.t.w. I used all available settings and at in economy mode reception was even worse....signal meter at 30-40% only a few feet away from my wireless router (my reference Loox... 100%!!)
worst of all...instead of fixing it they just release a new device.

Ce said:
I had three TyTN's and the last one had a horrible WiFi reception....10 meters at best. I had a Loox 720 (from a friend) for reference...with this PDA I could walk about 50 meters before reception became unusable. When it comes to WiFi reception this device has a major production tolerance. It makes me wonder if there is some kind of QC over there at HTC. My devices shouldn't have shipped in the first place.
b.t.w. I used all available settings and at in economy mode reception was even worse....signal meter at 30-40% only a few feet away from my wireless router (my reference Loox... 100%!!)
worst of all...instead of fixing it they just release a new device.
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It's a curious thing - yes I get good reception up to 15 meters then drops off badly. BUT if I'm driving around with wifi on it detects an endless stream of home networks that in many cases must greatly exceed 10/15 meters.
Mike

jeffreycentex said:
Have y'all tried the Best Performance setting?
I have not used Wifi, nor will I ever (that is what 3G is for - since 3G is faster than my DSL connection...), but others have reported that changing to Best Performance helps...
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In my opinion I think you correct with this setting only the interval of the cheksum when connected and not the sensivity of wifi receiver.

We should complain to Sony about weak signal.

I email Sony a complain about weak signal and this is what I got in respond:
Thank you for contacting Sony Ericsson Xperia Support.
We don't have a list of the newest updates for this phone, but I have heard nothing of your issue before, it is worth trying a reset if there is no update available.
Try resetting the hardware. To do this, hold down the two keys on the front with silver "-" signs. While you are pressing them, take the stylus and press the reset button through the top opening through the casing of the stylus.
What I also suggest is resetting the phone software via "Clear Storage".
To do this, select Start icon, then Settings, then tap the System tab. You will see Clear Storage in the top right corner.
1. The Sony Ericsson Update Service is a free download that can be found at www.sonyericsson.com, after you click on "Support" and then choose your phone model.
2. Select your country and region.
3. Under the section titled”Software and Set Up” choose, “Sony Ericsson Update Service”.
4. Download the application to your computer and install the program.
Once you have installed the program and run it, it will give you instructions on how to install it on the computer and how to run it on the phone afterwards. Please make sure the phone and the USB cable are not connected to the PC throughout the installation process. The Update Service is meant to update the software on the phone.
If you require more information, or have any other questions, please visit our website at SonyEricsson.com/X1 or call us at 1-877-7XPERIA.

Dunno what's going on here, I can't complaint: my reception is GREAT in both X1a and X1i
You should start a poll on this thread
1- Reception GREAT
2- Reception OK but...
3- Reception SUCKS

Reception good / great here... 2/4 bars of HDSPA all around my town...

signal is temprmental. i am not sure it is down to the phone though

Loco5150 said:
Reception good / great here... 2/4 bars of HDSPA all around my town...
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Same for me..

Compared to my Motorola Q9h Global, my Xperia X1a (and my Nokia E71-2) appear to have fewer bars in the same place.
I don't want to insult anybody by suggesting that this is the case, but I hope we're not assuming that the Xperia has poor RF signal capture just because it's not showing as many bars as another device.
In my part of the world there is a notorious dead zone between Culpeper VA and Orange VA. There are very few phones that can hold an AT&T signal through this zero-bar signal area, and the Xperia is one of them.

reception is just OK. my n95 usualy has a far better signal then my x1. @ least thats for UMTS signals. GSM is fine with both.
probaly a problem of the Metal case

1- Reception GREAT

Poll up
Express yorself

achmed20 said:
reception is just OK. my n95 usualy has a far better signal then my x1. @ least thats for UMTS signals. GSM is fine with both.
probaly a problem of the Metal case
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I'll second that, my N95 8GB has a better signal strength than my Xperia, i have owned a few Win mob devices in the past and they have all had poor reception compared to The Nokias i had at the time.

Done blame SE.. its a matter of fone operators.

nup, reception is much worse on the x1 than my k800i.
with my old phone I could get a little bit of reception at work (thick walls, no windows, lots of machinery..)
but I rarely get a signal now with the x1.. (and am unable to make calls, or they drop out half way through)
(and I am with the same provider)

But signal bars don't really represent how much signal you get. Making calls and it not dropping are the key factors you need to compare with.

Yes, however having comparison with SE P1, and my HP laptop with ExpressCard,
all on the same operator,
X1 is a bit weeker on reception.

Im also having same problem with signal on o2 in the uk, my blackbbery bold is fine, but x1 normally shows 1/2 bars

Really? Well here in montreal we have a tunnel, the Louis-Hyppolite Lafontaine tunnel. This tunnel is a dead zone, of course, but on a strong enough phone you get a link until nearly at the middle. With my X1, I got signal from start to end, the only other phones that I saw capable of doing this are the blod and E71.
Even if in my phone I see 3 bars, the signal is still very strong. Well maybe the X1 has better sensitivity, that would explain why you see 2 bars on the SE, when, conversely, you see 4 on a motorola.

X1 definitely has serious reception problem.
I am not taking about the number of bars but off and on signal are comepltely gone and it will start searching for a network.
I have tested this by putting the phone on the table and by observing the signals bars over a long period of time. Often I have noticed full signal bars and many time there are not signals at all.
Service is weak in my area but none of my pervious mobiles have shown such a poor reception.

My reception is just ridiculously bad!(I live in the Netherlands, Utrecht)
When I'm on MSN or browsing the web, or even when I'm SMS'ing,
the signal just drops. It's really starting to bug me!
I dont even have a connection when I'm on the bathroom @home..

I've noticed that it seems to be more due to the issue of HSDPA. It'll lose signal with HSDPA but then it'll connect with full bars of the older GPRS. In my opinion this would indicate that the service provider (vodafone) is the issue, not the phone.
I think another issue is that the radio antenna is actually part of the metal battery cover. If you take it off and turn the cover over you can see 4 exposed pieces of metal, I assume these are just that. Perhaps the signal you receive is so poor that even your hand covering the antenna is blocking it.

Here are the results of a hard comparison:
three (3) different devices -
HTC Polaris P3650 (ie. the 1st one)
SE X1 with radio ROM 1.11.25.76
Acer DX900
I used the same SIM card in all three in exactly the same marginal signal area (same verandah) in succession (total swap time to all three was about 10 minutes, no sudden electrical storms, weather fine and clear)
Both the Polaris and the DX900 easily found enough signal to work directly after boot with both HSDPA and GSM
The X1 obdurately stayed dumb and stupid, although it works OK in high signal areas
Conclusion: the X1 is useless in marginal signal areas. I suspect the aluminium case. It works fine if you never leave the city areas. When combined with the original underpowered battery, I now regard the X1 as an expensive toy ... pity, as it has lots of grunt (CPU, RAM, storage, resolution, GPS) but I'm simply not in the design market demographic.
I've tried 4 different radio ROM's now in the X1. WiFi, BT, GPS are excellent. GSM/GPRS and UMTS are hopeless in marginal signal areas.

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Ok... Here's the deal. I actually have signal but its extremely weak.
IN THE HOUSE ( BEFORE: always signal 3-4bars, NOW: basically no signal) .
OUTSIDE (BEFORE: full bars, NOW : 2-3 bars with an occasional 1 bar)
DRIVING (BEFORE: basically full bars, NOW: fluctuates 4 to 1 bars with various dead spots, which is very uncommon)
Does this sound like a hardware problem, radio rom issue, or something i am completely unaware of?
Im also noticing that my phone is the only device that does not pick up the Wifi signal in the house?
UPDATE: No signal in the house or outside? Data connection is ON.

If i go to SETTINGS then go to MOBILE NETWORKS, it shows that DATA ENABLED is checked.

it could also be a radio problem? try the above solution, if not then we'l proceed in trying to help.

Data Connection is on, BUT no signal reception inside and , now , even outisde the house. No matter what changes i make in "Mobile Networks", nothing changes there. Wifi scanning in the house is non existant but works in commercial settings that have an open source.

Noob Dude said:
Ok... Here's the deal. I actually have signal but its extremely weak.
IN THE HOUSE ( BEFORE: always signal 3-4bars, NOW: basically no signal) .
OUTSIDE (BEFORE: full bars, NOW : 2-3 bars with an occasional 1 bar)
DRIVING (BEFORE: basically full bars, NOW: fluctuates 4 to 1 bars with various dead spots, which is very uncommon)
Does this sound like a hardware problem, radio rom issue, or something i am completely unaware of?
Im also noticing that my phone is the only device that does not pick up the Wifi signal in the house?
UPDATE: No signal in the house or outside? Data connection is ON.
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You say before and after, but you don't say before and after what. Did you change radio, change ROM, change bootloader etc.? Or has it just randomly started happening?

referring to 7/5/12 and 7/6/12 to now.
Things ive done:
Problem started on previous rom. (coredroid) so i figured i would change roms and radio roms.
installed radio rom 2.15. but with rom change and radio change, still had current problem.
As of yesterday evening it would work somewhat consist when i was outside, but signal fluctuated alot.
The minute i got back into the house, i would lose complete signal. (very very rarely would it get a limited signal)
And today, i have only had signal one time. None outside. Is there a recommended radio rom i should install?
Or is it simply the sim card needing replaced due to abrasion on it. (one is being shipped now)

Trouble shooting #2
Swapped out the sim card and placed in my HD Desire and signal is fine on the HD Desire.
But still highly limited signal when the sim card is placed in the HD2. (basically no signal)
What can the problem be? Faulty antenna? Hardware issue?

Noob Dude said:
Swapped out the sim card and placed in my HD Desire and signal is fine on the HD Desire.
But still highly limited signal when the sim card is placed in the HD2. (basically no signal)
What can the problem be? Faulty antenna? Hardware issue?
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Please refer to the following thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190180

G2 Very Weak WiFi

HI. I had this WiFi problem since I bought the phone like 6-7 months ago.
My previous phone was a Nexus 4. It had good wifi reception. From my apartment I could find like 6-7 routers with +2 signal bars.
My Lg G2 sees only 3 routers, mine and 2 others that are at 1 signal bar or sometimes no signal. I tried to flash other basebands but no improvment. I tried flashing other ROMs.
I now tried to lift the little conectors on the back cover and put a little piece of paper under so i'm sure they connect (i don't know if that's how wifi works because it's working the same with or without the back cover).
What else should I try? Is there something to do or every G2 has signal problems?

I might have a solution for you...
dj_monkeyyy said:
HI. I had this WiFi problem since I bought the phone like 6-7 months ago.
My previous phone was a Nexus 4. It had good wifi reception. From my apartment I could find like 6-7 routers with +2 signal bars.
My Lg G2 sees only 3 routers, mine and 2 others that are at 1 signal bar or sometimes no signal. I tried to flash other basebands but no improvment. I tried flashing other ROMs.
I now tried to lift the little conectors on the back cover and put a little piece of paper under so i'm sure they connect (i don't know if that's how wifi works because it's working the same with or without the back cover).
What else should I try? Is there something to do or every G2 has signal problems?
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I had a similar problem with my G2. The old phone (Optimus 3D) had good and strong wifi signal. With this one, from the first day to connect to home network, I had connection problems and all I had to do was to set to one network mode (and only one - I use G), on a single channel (give it a low one - 1 to 6) and a 20 Mhz band channel. And guess what: I can have a clear and strong enough (plus stable) from down the street, while my flat is at the third floor.
Please try to modify your modem/router settings as stated before and let me know the results.

BigBadSheep said:
I had a similar problem with my G2. The old phone (Optimus 3D) had good and strong wifi signal. With this one, from the first day to connect to home network, I had connection problems and all I had to do was to set to one network mode (and only one - I use G), on a single channel (give it a low one - 1 to 6) and a 20 Mhz band channel. And guess what: I can have a clear and strong enough (plus stable) from down the street, while my flat is at the third floor.
Please try to modify your modem/router settings as stated before and let me know the results.
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My router works fine. I have it on G/N 20Mhz Channel 5. I work installing internet antennas on top of buildings so I would like to access the routers from far away.
Another question. What's the purpose of the gold connectors on the back cover?I have like 3-4 pairs. My wifi, network and gps work with or without the cover. No difference.

dj_monkeyyy said:
My router works fine. I have it on G/N 20Mhz Channel 5. I work installing internet antennas on top of buildings so I would like to access the routers from far away.
Another question. What's the purpose of the gold connectors on the back cover?I have like 3-4 pairs. My wifi, network and gps work with or without the cover. No difference.
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You must have only one type of connection. Or at least in my case is so. I have only G, not mixed one. As for back cover connectors...I have none. Stock back cover, gold edition of D802.

BigBadSheep said:
You must have only one type of connection. Or at least in my case is so. I have only G, not mixed one. As for back cover connectors...I have none. Stock back cover, gold edition of D802.
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I'm talking about these gold "things" I don't know what are they called - http://tinyurl.com/k4r2ykc (not my picture)
My brother sees 8 wifi routers with 3+ signal bars with an old Sony xperia tipo. I see only 3