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Within the past week I migrated from the ROM-crazy Touch Pro to a Samsung Moment, and I'm disappointed to find that while XDA has a thriving Android community, there's barely a mention of the Moment. This is perplexing, as the Moment seems to be a very strong device.
I have found the SDX website and appreciate the good work going on over there, but it's a pretty small (though talented!) community. I would expect the Moment to gain more of a following if it were to get more exposure. Is there a reason XDA does not have a forum for this device? How would one go about requesting a new forum?
being a Moment and a CDMA Hero User i was wondering the same thing. :\
rattlez33 said:
Within the past week I migrated from the ROM-crazy Touch Pro to a Samsung Moment, and I'm disappointed to find that while XDA has a thriving Android community, there's barely a mention of the Moment. This is perplexing, as the Moment seems to be a very strong device.
I have found the SDX website and appreciate the good work going on over there, but it's a pretty small (though talented!) community. I would expect the Moment to gain more of a following if it were to get more exposure. Is there a reason XDA does not have a forum for this device? How would one go about requesting a new forum?
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This is a HTC device forum so no wonder the SAMSUNG Moment doesn't have its own forum. You can post things about the Moment in the Android Software Development section though.
I considered that, but then I noticed the Samsung Omnia and various Palm, Toshiba, and LG devices had XDA forums.
rattlez33 said:
I considered that, but then I noticed the Samsung Omnia and various Palm, Toshiba, and LG devices had XDA forums.
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No love for the Moment And I have one too
Reason would be because the XDA dev's would be pretty worthless (not an attack on them, just a statement of the following fact) at modifying and developing specific for the samsung moment. It utilizies different hardware and software that isn't found on any other android device (bits and pieces are found on other samsung devices only)... For example, the samsung moment utilizes a ONEnand chip and RFS (a samsung propritary) file system...
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I considered that, but then I noticed the Samsung Omnia and various Palm, Toshiba, and LG devices had XDA forums.
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I heard a mod said that those devices parts were made by htc and the phone was put together by htc. kinda like the nexus one thing.
Samsung Mobile and Sprint announced today that the Samsung Moment has been selected as the first phone to showcase a demonstration of a Mobile Digital TV chip.
Samsung and its Moment may not be mainstream like Motorola but I like the Moment and can't wait for the 2.1 update coming in late March or April. Should make it a better device with the improvements. At least that's the theory...
there is a forum for moment. i had it in my bookmarks but i had to do a reinstall on my comp so im searching for it again atm cuz i didnt save bookmarks.
Sadly the admins don't have time to read every thread in this forum... so it might be a better idea mentioning this in the following thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616206
This is monitored by the admins.
Dave
Indeed.. I already posted a request for the Galaxy(S) and the Spica in the request forum. If you want others, just go post your demand in following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616206
There is already a forum for Samsung (Android) devices.
Most Samsung users go to the SDX forum as XDA is an HTC Dev forum. I'd recommend checking there, first, as they have done A LOT in the way of development/modding/hacking/theming for the Moment.
The structure of the information provided in the guides can be a little hard to follow at first, but the guides are rather good. ROM/Update flashing is (often too) simple and the rooting process is automated in update.zip format, now.
Link: hxxp://sdx-developers.com
Personally, as a Moment user, I utilize both XDA and SDX, as great info can be found in both forums.
grayn0de said:
Personally, as a Moment user, I utilize both XDA and SDX, as great info can be found in both forums.
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Same here.
We heard from a lot of users and moderators on the issue of whether to put all Galaxy S forums under one roof or to offer separate forums for them all.
For the sake of keeping confusion to a minimum plus ensuring that XDA stays as organized as possible, we've officially decided to launch forums for all four variants of the Galaxy S. We expect these four devices (plus the unlocked Galaxy S) to be very popular devices once they're on sale.
Here are the links!
Sprint Epic 4G
AT&T Captivate
T-Mobile Vibrant
Verizon Fascinate
This forum will be for the unlocked European version of the Galaxy S that has been on sale since June.
Thanks to everyone!
Edit by Chainfire:
Please note various Q&A from the i9000 (unlocked European version) FAQ may still be relevant to your device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
Is there any way for them to be all under the same parent forum on the tree so that we don't get heavy fragmentation in discussions? It would make it easier for people to find threads that were for other Galaxy S derived devices that also affected them, but were posted in the other forums.
ryukent said:
Is there any way for them to be all under the same parent forum on the tree so that we don't get heavy fragmentation in discussions? It would make it easier for people to find threads that were for other Galaxy S derived devices that also affected them, but were posted in the other forums.
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This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
What was the point in the poll if popular vote didn't matter?
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to look through them all
GG to my laziness
Rawat said:
This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
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+1.
Agreed.
Can we fight with the other Galaxy S varieties for supremacy?
NOOO MY GALAYX IS TEH BESHTESTT!!!1!!1!one!!eleven
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Can we fight with the other Galaxy S varieties for supremacy?
NOOO MY GALAYX IS TEH BESHTESTT!!!1!!1!one!!eleven
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Obi-Wan: I have to admit that without the SGS varieties, it would have not been a victory.
Yoda: Victory? Victory you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the SGS War has.
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Obi-Wan: I have to admit that without the SGS varieties, it would have not been a victory.
Yoda: Victory? Victory you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the SGS War has.
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This is the best post I have ever seen on XDA.
INeedYourHelp said:
What was the point in the poll if popular vote didn't matter?
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to look through them all
GG to my laziness
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/Twerd.
No point in separating everything....
-bZj
I liked the idea of different development forums And keeping everything else unified. I don't remember any of htc wm phones being separated by carrier. Why separate all of the galaxies?
Rawat said:
This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
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The Themes and Apps sections will indeed have some redundancy, and we may remove those forums except from the main Galaxy S I9000. Then the trouble becomes that people will post about themes and apps with the OTHER forums like General, etc. So, we'll have to play it by ear and see how things go!
Keep the forums separate, but how about having a universal Themes and Apps topics all linked to the main one here?
can we have all the varieties themes and apps page link to the galaxy s one? Accessories and ROM dev. is nice to have separated but general and apps do not. If a thread poster feels it is phone specific he can just state the variant in the title no?
svetius said:
We heard from a lot of users and moderators on the issue of whether to put all Galaxy S forums under one roof or to offer separate forums for them all.
For the sake of keeping confusion to a minimum plus ensuring that XDA stays as organized as possible, we've officially decided to launch forums for all four variants of the Galaxy S. We expect these four devices (plus the unlocked Galaxy S) to be very popular devices once they're on sale.
Here are the links!
Sprint Epic 4G
AT&T Captivate
T-Mobile Vibrant
Verizon Fascinate
This forum will be for the unlocked European version of the Galaxy S that has been on sale since June.
Thanks to everyone!
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So the admins decided to go against the popular vote? Marvelous.
crabby
sorry.. but bad move to create separate forums... we now have to check 5 forums to find what we want.
this reminds me of the G1/Magic32B/Magic32A forums where nearly all development and modding was posted in the G1 forum (dev device), leaving the Magic forums abandoned, or full of links to G1 forum posts for those with 32B radios.
I predict that the Vibrant & Euro unlocked S will be the most used devices, leaving the other forums as good as empty or posted with stuff like "I found this on the Vibrant/S forum".
what about the forum search? will we now need to search all forums? increases the load right?
anyway.. last time I checked the poll regarding this, most of the users voted for seperate SUB forums.. did this change so drastically in the last weeks?
Separate forums of the SAME device by US carriers??? WTF?
Disagree... completely.
magicdroid said:
sorry.. but bad move to create separate forums... we now have to check 5 forums to find what we want.
this reminds me of the G1/Magic32B/Magic32A forums where nearly all development and modding was posted in the G1 forum (dev device), leaving the Magic forums abandoned, or full of links to G1 forum posts for those with 32B radios.
I predict that the Vibrant & Euro unlocked S will be the most used devices, leaving the other forums as good as empty or posted with stuff like "I found this on the Vibrant/S forum".
what about the forum search? will we now need to search all forums? increases the load right?
anyway.. last time I checked the poll regarding this, most of the users voted for seperate SUB forums.. did this change so drastically in the last weeks?
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Precisely.
I see no reason for 5 separate forums. I think a much better idea would have to have a single GalaxyS forum, and add subforums for specific variants as the need arises (if it ever does).
Having 5 forums just wastes everyone's time. It even makes searching useless .
reuthermonkey said:
Precisely.
I see no reason for 5 separate forums. I think a much better idea would have to have a single GalaxyS forum, and add subforums for specific variants as the need arises (if it ever does).
Having 5 forums just wastes everyone's time. It even makes searching useless .
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What amazing is they ask for a vote then go against it WTF
I think it would have been best to make them all in 1 forum and then have a sub forums for GSM and CDMA...
or make a sub forum for each device and a main forum for all of them to have a General...
cause there are many issues people are talking about in the Vibrant and the I9000 which are EXACTLY the same...
not to mention we need some stickies with common issues and questions..
On a similar note. The Samsung Vibrant or Galaxy S similar to the european version has 4 haptic buttons whereas the latter has only 2 and the
Big plastic intergrated middle button. Is this something people would prefer and would it be beneficial in the long run of android where it would
have been if the phone was to run windows 7.
BTW.... I Am not pleased that the American market also shipped this with the Avatar Film pre-installed...LOL!
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That is brilliant. Can't believe I did not post it first, it is a peeve of mine, big time.
I would like to see this as well.
I support this!
It was like that at first, but I think they did this so that people wouldnt start flashing things on their phones without knowing which one it's for.
I wouldnt mind a general "Galaxy S General" forum though.
yes, this would be a definite plus. and give us an off topic section for us sgs users as well.
+1 .....10 char
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as i don't have any Mod power to make it a sticky, much less make the original topic cross posted across the 5 SGS forums
115 Yes
7 No
Wow...
I didn't at first, but I found my self looking at the other forums today because its really obvious that there is tons of cross over. Of course I'd agree that development should be seperate, but cases and other things should totally be combined.
I just hope my sticky stays a sticky
jz9833 said:
It was like that at first, but I think they did this so that people wouldnt start flashing things on their phones without knowing which one it's for.
I wouldnt mind a general "Galaxy S General" forum though.
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It wasn't exactly like that at first I think..more precisely only the i9000 forum existed as it was the only device out at the time..
Right now we got almost the devices out the door and most of the stuff are compatible..if not minor tweaks make it compatible...
But yes thats exactly what the proposal will do..it will separate out the development with some room for cross development and keep the other categories like general the same
As long as the development sections are separate I think this its a good idea..
Especially if we have enough mods to watch over us...
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and also take out the Galaxy Spica subsection which no one seems to use.
I do like the idea though the only thing I'm worried about is people getting confused in the development section. And I'm assuming since the software is basically the same for all the phones then themes would work across all phones.
yeah that might be an issue. if we do merge, I think it's best if people start id'ing their thread with something like
[CAPT] dadada
[VIBR] dadada
[EPIC] dadada
Let me clear things up a bit....the Development thread will have sub-forums for each device...so anything that is unique or only for 1 device will be in the sub-forum...things that work on all devices or multiple devices will go into the main Development forum where we will tag it something like this "[V][C][F]" which would mean works for Vibrant, Captivate, Fascinate only.
I agree, checking all the other SGS forums is a litle annoying.
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I didn't at first, but I found my self looking at the other forums today because its really obvious that there is tons of cross over. Of course I'd agree that development should be seperate, but cases and other things should totally be combined.
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I was under the impression that the Vibrant and Captivate don't use the same cases (Captivate has lines vs curves), so already there is an instance where this idea falls apart.
Theres going to be a SGS with a keyboard soon, that case won't be compatible with cases for the other phones.
So....we could mix the Vibrant and i9000 forums because they're basically the same form factor, but why bother.
There is enough different about all these phones that it's probably better keeping them separated.
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With that said, when there is an issue with one phone, it does seem to carry over to the others and it is freaking annoying having to delve the forums of the other phones to find a solution.
Unfortunately, what is the "better" solution? Either one is going to be somewhat confusing for somebody.
Bump.
To the people that still doesn't know about this idea, please go vote if you would like to see the big Galaxy S family forum merged.
Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084
Yes this is exactly what we need. Since the poll is positive, when will we see the forums merge together?
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Great idea. I voted in the orignal thread.
They did it with so many other phones, why not the galaxy s series?
I don't get it, and not many do. I came from the touch pro series and it doesn't bother me to have separate subs; rapheal is a great example of how it works out to combine em in one.
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as i don't have any Mod power to make it a sticky, much less make the original topic cross posted across the 5 SGS forums
This would help a lot!
I'd be okay with merging the Vibrant, Captivate, and that Verizon model, but I feel that the Galaxy S is too different in both hardware and software to merge it. Do we really want to be dealing with people who flashed the wrong ROM that was in the same forum?
NickMl said:
I'd be okay with merging the Vibrant, Captivate, and that Verizon model, but I feel that the Galaxy S is too different in both hardware and software to merge it. Do we really want to be dealing with people who flashed the wrong ROM that was in the same forum?
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Actually we have more similarities with the Galaxy S then the Vibrant and Captivate >.>
If you read the post the Development forums will have separate subforums for device specific stuff...but things like General and etc will be merged so more people will be able to assist you..our device are pretty much 95%-99% identical.
I think its a pretty good idea. We don't want development scattered. United we stand strong!
it. said:
I think its a pretty good idea. We don't want development scattered. United we stand strong!
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yup! and more development = win for us all...
Please make this happen!
*Flashed back to the Hero forum before they where separate* Horrible Idea wanting to put CDMA and GSM phones in the same area - many a Hero where sent to an early grave by mixing the Dev boards for these 2. Someone posts a GSM radio update and a CDMA guy gets it thinking "Hey, what the Hell, couldn't hurt!" and there goes their $500.00 phone. Then they something about having insurance replace it and a huge debate starts over insurance fraud. And I've been told that insurance on the Epic is a one time use, then they drop it and you are Ef'd on a second one.
So consider this my vote against a huge forum of all GS devices. Also, with the hardware differences on a kernel level I have to think this would be a developer nightmare. As active as all 5 boards are already, there would be no way to keep up as a community to help each other out. Your thread would be buried in 10 minutes and we would have to deal with 5 times as many people asking stupid "Which rom is the best" or "How do I root my phone" questions without searching.
Kcarpenter said:
So consider this my vote against a huge forum of all GS devices.
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The proposition includes having separate development forums for each device. Only the General and Apps forums would be combined. Check out the link in the OP for more info.
lol wouldn't it be funny if they all merged and than the other Galaxy S phones want to divorce from the Epic because of no Tv-Out.
"They're mutants!!!"
sorry about the cross forum posting guys, but until we get this other issue solved
Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
this is the only way to keep in touch across the separate forums
Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
anirudh412 said:
Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
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Wrong section you should post in the question/answers section.
Anyway to answer your question Qualcomm is pretty much open with their processors and I don't believe there would be any problems building kernels and porting roms.
This is going to be locked / moved.
Nexus devices get CM10 very fast as you only need too add Cyanogenmod source merges and compile it to the Nexus 4 AOSP source and its good to go.
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
anirudh412 said:
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
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It could of gone in either but I think it best suits the q&a section because you are specifically asking a question and you want an answer in return.
Wrong section, ib4tl
Edit: Also, just to put in something useful, this phone WILL be improved, if there are ANY software issues. This is the phone that will have the most dev support in years, with it's low price. In addition, CM isn't "ported", per say, it is built from source.
anirudh412 said:
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
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I asked a mod to move it.
anirudh412 said:
Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
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Since its a nexus device, the source tree is already in aosp so custom ROMs like cm10, aokp, etc will appear almost instantly. No need to do any major hacks get stuff fully working like other phones.. Same with kernels, the source will be available immediately, so there's no waiting for the new kernel sources (*COUGH COUGH * HTC)
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I think molesarecoming is planning to bring ParanoidAndroid over to the Nexus 4